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[kaydubs]

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Genny might do that as wolf-genny, that may or may not hold true for wolf-Kaydubs, but you're being reductive. My point is this: stop using other people's reasoning as blanket rules to wolf-hunt. They may or may not work for you.

How and why did my name show up....

 

[Crayola227]

Limited experience. One game. You cannot meta someone on one game. I feel like you're stretching to fit Lawper into a mislynch


Except that wasn't a noob wolf play that legit was greeney not being able to get back to the thread.

Unlynch Nohika
Lynch Bryndiana

I feel like you're stretching that Brindi was stretching on her reasons for Lawper. I have criticized Brindi for the same thing, but coupled with your statement about Greeney (I explain below) which doesn't ring true to me, I feel like you're stretching. Brindi could just be noob village play, but this stuff from you....

And it was noob wolf play for Greeney to jump on the thread like she did. The ghosting wasn't the issue as much as the tone of the post.

You switched last min from one easy lynch to another.

All of this doesn't feel right coming from you.

 

[Crayola227]

Genny might do that as wolf-genny, that may or may not hold true for wolf-Kaydubs, but you're being reductive. My point is this: stop using other people's reasoning as blanket rules to wolf-hunt. They may or may not work for you.

Which is not at all what I'm doing. I'm giving credit where credit is due and explaining how I'm drawing my conclusions. No where am I acting like it's blanket or I wouldn't turn in WIFOM circles for the village to watch.

You can disagree with my wolf hunting, but don't tell me where it's coming from.

 

[Crayola227]

If you're actually village this is lame.

Fight. Why bother playing if you are around but won't put up a fight to being wrongly accused??

edit: and no, nobody is "due" a d1 lynch. Ever. That's ridiculous and lazy playing imho.

lol I thought VMH was notorious for on-thread meltdowns.... knowing how some people are, sometimes it's best to go quietly than try to burn down the village as you go

there's a middle ground some of us have yet to find

 

[Crayola227]

These two statements couldn't possibly be related though, right? I mean that would be crazy, that maybe you are skimming and just misunderstood...
GTFO with this

hmmm, why so defensive at the mere suggestion that I confused you and Pippy and that you might be wolfy? I even admitted in the same post that I was skimming and might be wrong.

I've never seen you this aggressive before. I don't need to get the frak out with it. Whether or not there's anything to what I said isn't nearly as informative as someone's reaction to it. I find yours rather interesting.

 

[Crayola227]

at this point
lynch allie
i don't have hard feels on anyone yet that I think is a wolf and allie has lurked in the past as a wolf (again, small sample size so don't jump my bones if this isn't always accurate)

I feel like I've mostly seen short fluff posts from you, and I'm not used to the sharp tone. Not sure what I make of it. This looks like an easy lynch vote to push though. I'd like to hear more of your thoughts about other players.

 

[Crayola227]

I don’t think I’ve ever played with a hydra...has one ever been a wolf? Because besides vmh yesterday, Ski was probably giving me the most feels but I can’t see how this particular hydra style would be fair if they were a wolf, with essentially another bright mind added to the wolf pack but no need to participate on thread.

I'm not sure if fairness factors in. Aren't these roles usually RNG'd? So there shouldn't be any reason to be more or less suspicious of a hydra being village or wolf.... I just don't like players I don't have reason to think I can read. So that seemed like a decent D1 "I don't have much to go on" vote. I backed off despite us having a tiff because it felt villager on villager and as things went on others have risen in my sketch list.

Just not sure why you'd make this assumption about hydras....

 

[Crayola227]

Forgot to mention earlier when I was responding to the other part of this post that I like this theory. The kill choice last night was very odd and I immediately thought to myself that we must be dealing with at least partially a newer wolf pack. Tinfoil hat theory- FTB is a veteran who was MIA the first cycle of the game...could be purely coincidence. But given that she's made a few appearances on the thread today and hasn't posted anything that makes me give her a villager lean, I'm keeping an eye on her.

With that being said, I find it amusing that some of the noobs are/were afraid of LIS. I think jboo was the one that was most vocal about it? I don't see her being so obvious on thread about being afraid of him and then killing him off as a wolf. So she gets villager points for that. On the other hand, bryndi was getting a lot of pressure from LIS because of her lynch reasoning and I could see that making a newer wolf pack nervous and wanting to get rid of him. Her post agreeing with me on vmh did make me raise my eyebrows and just made me a little uncomfortable.

lynch bryndiana for now

Really not sure why the N1 kill of LIS is odd? Can someone explain that? I'm very new to wolf night kill logic having wolfed once. At the point he was killed, the shade/village feelz he had were not solid enough to count for much after he was wolf killed, but he tends to get there quickly. He just never struck me as good wolf distraction either, just solid village usually. Seems to me that his early night kill wouldn't provide much data to hurt the wolves, and letting him live would do more to help village. So why would veteran wolves hold back on him? Just seems to me that wanting him dead early isn't proof of veteran or noob wolf pack, just good strategy. ???

 

[Crayola227]

I feel like it might have been cray?

Idk I agree that it was a dick move and I feel like it maybe leans slightly more noob than not, but I also feel like it's really stupid to completely base wolf pack kill target analysis off of one kill

It was allieh.

I never posited a noob wolf pack or made assumptions about why the wolves chose LIS as their N1, and maybe it doesn't even matter.

I made a joke to Nokia when she said the wolf pack should never appear to be working together on thread, that she was helping "the noob wolf pack" (because the veteran wolves know this, if there was a noob wolf pack, she just gave away strategy! haha)

 

[Crayola227]

sketch for early post/vote
sketch for extreme defensiveness over pos/I's pressure D1
Neither of these were enough of a reason for a vote, but then see response to VMH to what pushed Finn into lynch territory.

If Finn flips wolf I'm coming after you for chainsaw defense just FYI

lol what is chainsaw defense oh WW Judas? (since LIS was WW Jesus....)

 

[kaydubs]

lol what is chainsaw defense oh WW Judas? (since LIS was WW Jesus....)

So accurate. I think of Melby sharing a major attribute with STL. Both have a sometimes idiot savant quality before they jump off a cliff head first...

Or have @Karabiner13 launch a cow at them 😉

 

[SkiOtter]

Most turn it off in WW. Given what I do in the rest of the site, I keep mine on. It also depends on how you like to play WW. For me personally, I see no advantage so it's left on.

Partly because of the obsession you clearly see about people's schedules. Everyone says IRL doesn't matter, but in point of fact how people seem to act about it, it would seem it does.

Uhhhhh what

I'm fully neutral this game. And know nothing about anything. So there 😛

When is this not true? 😛

 

[Karabiner13]

Night closed, Results pending

 

[kaydubs]

After a fit of scurrying to escape @WildZoo 's wrath, the students swiftly exited the kitchen after cleaning up the aftermath of another sloppy lynch.

The next morning, KB came in to get the kitchen classroom set for another day of b(ww)aking. Much to her dismay, the room was a DISASTER. She squared her shoulders and started to clean. As she went to deposit some refuse into the garbage, she was astonished to find this.

Spoiler

Dead is @johnnaboo , Dutch apple pie, a vanilla villager. What's with all the apple hate!!??

​

It is now Day 3. Lynch will close at 12 am EST.

Roster
1. @vetmedhead, chocolate chip cookies?
3. @killerleaf
4. @capri1722
5. @Melchizedek
6. @StayingPositive2017
7. @Animal Midwife
8. @SkiOtter / @kcoughli
10. @MixedAnimals77
11. @allieh8607
12. @Crayola227
13. @Trilt
9. @PippyPony
14. @finnickthedog
17. @SnowshoeDog143
18. @Stella Mudd
19. @Skyerien
20. @bryndiana.jones
21. @nohika
22. @cdoconn
23. @VicariousAsparagus
24. @fromthebox

NPC: @WildZoo

Burned, Broken, and Buried:
15. @LetItSnow, bananas foster
16. @Lawper, apple cinnamon streusel muffins
2. @johnnaboo, Dutch apple pie

 

[Melchizedek]

With your tinfoil hat theory on Egg and Nohika, why did you vote Nohika over Egg? Why not Egg? Just curious.

The Tin could hat theory about Egg was contingent on Nohika being a wolf. Needed to know if Nohika was a wolf before deciding if Egg was.

How and why did my name show up....

Just using people not playing to make a general point so people don’t get confused and think I was making a specific point relevant to this game.

I feel like you're stretching that Brindi was stretching on her reasons for Lawper. I have criticized Brindi for the same thing, but coupled with your statement about Greeney (I explain below) which doesn't ring true to me, I feel like you're stretching. Brindi could just be noob village play, but this stuff from you....

And it was noob wolf play for Greeney to jump on the thread like she did. The ghosting wasn't the issue as much as the tone of the post.

You switched last min from one easy lynch to another.

All of this doesn't feel right coming from you.

To be fair to capri, I always feel one should generally vote their heart and soul, especially if it won't make a difference (ie you're not creating a tie to move off, you don't have reason to save one candidate over another when your top suspect isn't on the block) to move off even at the last minute. I know that looks wolfy, but I think later in the game there is something to be said for a villager sticking by their guns even if it draws friendly fire.

I agree that Lawper wasn't the best lynch, and Stella isn't much better, given that the issue with both are weird villagers that haven't put in enough coherent play.

It remains to be seen if capri was wolfy or vill nooby with this.

Make up your mind. Should people stay on a vote if they’re not feeling it or should they vote with their heart? You’re lauding something as good play and then criticizing me for the same actions?

I switched off of Nohika because her posts later into the night were reading pissed off village

 

[Trilt]

To whom it concerns:

Sorry to pass out on you. As far as last message, I think it's a good theory; there's some precedent (look at Infiltrated's neutral character) and if you review her posts definitely some possible hinting going on early thread. And the write-ups tbh.

With Lawper and Johna dead and also vanilla, I'd be surprised if this wasn't a completely (or so close to it it hardly matters) vanilla game with a lot of items. Heard of three so far which is a pretty decent amount for the amount of talking I've done.


I am re-reading and haven't even looked at yesterday after sleeping for... 13 hours, but will be back in a bit with some thoughts.

 

[kaydubs]

Gonna eat some apple strudel or fritters this morning in tribute to the apple deadssss

 

[Crayola227]

Just going to go to sleep. Gonna wrap up all these posts with a "payoff" post in spoiler box for brevity. lol.

Spoiler: Reads

VMH - had strongly as village before she flipped village. No reason to think otherwise except I don't like rezzes.
KL - I'd have to go back to see what people didn't like there.
Capri - too nooby for me to read.
Mel - too creepy for me to read. Actually, I have him as village lean, but I need to poke him hard with a stick on the regular to try to figure that out.
Paws - usually short responses, but feels terse and aggro this game. Sending up red flags for me. I think last game that she was like this, she was wolf.
AM - can never read her. She seems like her usual self, whatever that might mean. Actually, maybe not as aggressive which could be concerning.
ski - don't like hydras but seems village aside from jumping too harshly on VA about Ceke-like post.
MA - wanna see what she was gonna say about jboo. I actually find her more suspicious with the jboo death. Could be a wolf ploy to frame her, sure.
Allie - I know for a fact she wanted to try lurking even more as a strategy before roles went out, still don't like it.
Trilt - where is she getting all this intel talking to people? Must be an item, I haven't gotten around to opening PM's with anyone, unless Allie is a chatterbox in PM. She was raising flags for me earlier too.
Pippy - doesn't read as evil to me as usual, so more village lean, actually.
Finn - doesn't feel like wolfy Finn. Wolfy Finn is fluffy too, and defensive too, but still is more serious and angry. This Finn has the carefreeness I think of with village Finn.
Snowy - hard for me to read. Definitely need more strat posts from her.
Stella - I'm biased as I know for a fact she was asleep all day yesterday. However, that doesn't say what her affiliation is. But the ghosting was not intentional. She could still be a wolf benefitting by it, I know. It would help to have more gameplay from her to figure that out. I suspect she'll get mod-smited soon if she doesn't pick up.
Sky - fluff posts. Need more.
Brindi - my criticisms are above. She reads noob village to me, but I'm not sure what noob wolf would look like to me outside of that noob game. They practically were wearing signs, and now any noob wolves are getting even better mentoring fighting alongside veteran wolves for realz.
Nohika - reads village to me, but I'm biased for a lot of reasons, mostly that I have a lot of IRL stuff in common with her, and she is actually talking this game, and I feel has had a village tone trying to help.
Cdo - wolfy for reasons given. I don't auto think her wall o text is village or wolfy - still trying to process.
VA - bizarre noob.
FTB - don't have meta on her, just that she's really really smart.

I read it and it looks vague and therefore wolfy. But it's only D3 and I've put an enormous amount of effort into thread catch up and challenging posts above. I also do these to help order my own thoughts (think I need to, don't you??) and see if people push me one way or the other. It also helps me and others to keep track of general trends in behavior and reads.

 

[Crayola227]

The Tin could hat theory about Egg was contingent on Nohika being a wolf. Needed to know if Nohika was a wolf before deciding if Egg was.


Just using people not playing to make a general point so people don’t get confused and think I was making a specific point relevant to this game.





Make up your mind. Should people stay on a vote if they’re not feeling it or should they vote with their heart? You’re lauding something as good play and then criticizing me for the same actions?

I switched off of Nohika because her posts later into the night were reading pissed off village

Fair enough. I think my point was that I thought Capri was just doing a noob thing, and also that I assumed you were heartless and soulless. 😛 No really, it just seemed maybe different from you, and I was already wondering why you had singled out Nohika over Egg in your tinfoil hat theory. Still wondering why you needed to crack Nohika rather than Egg to find out if they were wolves working together. Maybe I'm missing something.

And you're right that I'm criticizing you for good play. Because all play from you is sketchy.

 

[SkiOtter]

Mel - too creepy for me to read. Actually, I have him as village lean, but I need to poke him hard on the regular to try to figure that out.

 

[Karabiner13]

D3 All you Knead Lynch Tally

😴

0/21

Deadline 12am EST (~15 hours)

 

[WildZoo]

When is this not true? 😛

Exactly!

I mean, uh...don't make me kick you out of my kitchen!

 

[kaydubs]

^^I am so proud of finding this pun 🙂

 

[kaydubs]

Exactly!

I mean, uh...don't make me kick you out of my kitchen!

 

[Trilt]

Yesterday you lynched Killerleaf as a "reminder" and then took forever to unlynch, which was odd

Took time to decide whether I felt she was being noob-y or sketchy noob-y. Between yesterday and then, I'm feeling just generally noob-y and have her fairly village with the piles and piles of fluff.

Today you're lynching AM which I feel like is a weird choice for you

I literally called her out for not posting as much as normal the day before, and she didn't respond in a satisfactory way to it. She still hasn't, so honestly I might vote her again today. Thinking Snowy after re-read though.

- don't think you'd authorize an N1 kill on LIS
- LIS thought you were village and I liked his reads

I wouldn't, and I didn't, and he was right. 😉

@PippyPony and @Trilt what were your reasons for voting for vmh yesterday? I looked back and could not find reasons (I may have missed them though, but I did search).

Not good ones. But the last time she gave me the same vibes she had just been converted, so I ran with it. Then she didn't really even try to defend, so no reason to move.

She hasn't been quite as persistent about it in this game so far (although she has done it) but I also can't read AM for garbage so not sure what to say there. This posting is reminding much more of her very early games, where she was much quieter as a player in general.

Literally exactly what I said d1. It's abnormal for her recently, in my opinion.

 

[Trilt]

where is she getting all this intel talking to people? Must be an item, I haven't gotten around to opening PM's with anyone, unless Allie is a chatterbox in PM. She was raising flags for me earlier too.

I was talked to by one person. 🙄

 

[Crayola227]

torn between staying on Egg, which doesn't seem fair since I haven't fully processed her mega posts (hypocrisy, much?), cuz I usually stay unless I have good reason to move, and moving to Paws, who as I reflect, has bothered me a lot

####lynch Paws####

if I wake before deadline, we'll see what happens

 

[Crayola227]

@Trilt in hindsight one wonders if the reason @vetmedhead seemed to go too softly into that good night, was because she knew if she was lynched she'd be rezzed

that sorta wigs me out, and really makes me wonder about mechanics

 

[nohika]

Does anyone have a tl;dr for cray's posts?

 

[PippyPony]

Does anyone have a tl;dr for cray's posts?

Was wondering the same thing. I skimmed some of it but good lord.

She did put reads in that spoiler post.

 

[Trilt]

Yeah I kinda like a snowy lynch after some ISO.

I feel like mistaking one vote for a bandwagon is more villagey then wolf atm. But if she's hydrated then I guess could be either.



That's what I was trying to decide with Finn. Her comment made me think wolfy. Though I haven't played with her much to know I that's normal. I don't think pips is more or less helpful as a wolf vs village.

100% hedge

Eh for now

Lynch Allie

To get her talking because she's normally quieter. Might switch to a Finn vote though.

Throwaway, then no further pushing.

Well the wifi at my house sucks today so like the dedicated ww player I think I am, I'm at a coffee shop now. Got a lot to catch up on.

This caught my eye that day because it's... not necessarily the type of thing I think of a vanilla Snowy doing. Could be wrong, sure, but it pinged a little note in my head to consider her as wolf or PR. I'm suspicious that this game is very vanilla (as explained above), so it nudges a bit wolfy now that I'm tunneling. 😛

This is probably a question for @DVMDream

It's hard to make a meta off of 1 or 2 games. I know, because I try and fail most times. I feel like if it's only after one game you find a wolf off their per se "meta" thats more luck then strategy for the majority of people you try to read.

I like this reasoning. AM hasn't been her aggressive self. But it's D1. And Trilt is giving me feelz so I don't know how I feel about agreeing with her about this.

Wonder how many hedge gifs are out there?

Haha I just realized you are right and I think every game I've played with you, you have ended up cheering for the wolves because you got pissed at village. That being said, you are making a lot of excuses today and not as much strategy - Who are your top 3 suspicions right now?

Pushed a little, so mild points here. But I'm feeling Crayola as village leaning at this point (would be surprised at the LIS kill considering for once he was reading her villa) so, ehh....

Thanks for who's tied. I could vote AM and not just because she's slacking in posting tallies. The noobs I'm being soft today and kinda want to let them live another day. Nohika I'm reading more villagey. VMH is hard to read from D1, but if she's village, she'll read that to a lot of people within a couple days. Mel is baby stl so is always neutral. Mixy I have a few wolfy points for, so I think I'll go there for today

unlynch allie
lynch mixy

Can you explain your nohika village lean? And precisely what pushed you to Mixy?

meh I agree the early rez was a good choice, but Trilt's comment doesn't seem wierd to me. She complained at the end/after lynch about vmh going down without a fight which was lame. I probably also wouldn't have rezzed her because that was annoying.

Um I don't think AM ever tries to tunnel people, it just happens and usually later in the game. I'm more concerned that she has seemed quieter and more passive (but I feel like I've complained about that about her the last few games and she has been village so )

Pocket hedge?

Okay, truthfully didn't read cdo's pages because I don't have that kind of attention span.
Mixy is still up there on my list. But today I've been agreeing with more of her/his posts.
AM seems like herself today, so backing off that vote.
Bryndy is my manatee so I'm a little partial to her and don't really want to vote her right now, but can see why people are going there.
KL and VA have interesting posts that I can't decide are more villagey or wolfy.
Mel is starting to lean wolfy to me.
Pippy and Trilt go back and forth, but I'm wary of both of them most games.
Would like to see more from stella, allie, and ftb
Lawper seems like she/he is trying to make analysis and instead just stating known facts. Which rings noob wolf to me.

lynch lawper

Hedge and a bandwagon vote...

Lynch Snowy

Still not convinced on AM though. I've recently loved her playing because it's more aggressive and dgaf. I admit to not really reading Michigan game so maybe it's backed off, but there has been a whole lot of passivity so far.

 

[nohika]

Maybe it's because I'm chronically sleep deprived, but wtf is ISO? In spite of? Isolation? Introspective Speculation Observation?

 

[Trilt]

Isolation?

^

ISO - MafiaWiki

 

[PippyPony]

@Trilt in hindsight one wonders if the reason @vetmedhead seemed to go too softly into that good night, was because she knew if she was lynched she'd be rezzed

that sorta wigs me out, and really makes me wonder about mechanics

Crayola, if you start this again, I'm going to move my lynch vote to you and park it there. Do you remember in the Michigan game when you thought this was the mechanic? And it turned out I was the village seer who was rezzed as...the village seer?

Not saying we shouldn't eventually look at meats, but right now that is a rabbit hole.

 

[allieh8607]

I don't agree with this at all, and I think it's a bit weird. I've always thought of you as a quiet lurker, and that makes people more nervous, not less. I think it's better to charge ahead with your typical village play and risk friendly fire as the village learns you (again, as I know you're not a noob). Seems to me wolves try to justify changes in game play not related to travel, lol.

It's fine to improve your village play and not get lynched (says me, lol) but I'm not sure being quieter in your case does just that.

Your reaction to this is making me side eye you a lot. I feel like you of all people understood my frustrations the last couple of games with what I've done to myself D1. And you KNEW I was going to do this, you said it yourself in your spoiler reads list. This is me charging ahead with normal village play. In the last couple of games I played after my hiatus, I was trying to be more present on the thread right from the start and I found that it was either that early thread presence or specific things I said that got people thinking I was sketchy and then they literally wouldn't let it go until I was lynched or night killed. I said I was taking a slower approach to D1, and that was the extent of what I was changing. D1 is over, I've been on the thread, and I've been posting what I consider to be my normal amount. Trying to throw shade at me after D1 is done and over with is not settling well with me.

I'm not sure if fairness factors in. Aren't these roles usually RNG'd? So there shouldn't be any reason to be more or less suspicious of a hydra being village or wolf.... I just don't like players I don't have reason to think I can read. So that seemed like a decent D1 "I don't have much to go on" vote. I backed off despite us having a tiff because it felt villager on villager and as things went on others have risen in my sketch list.

Just not sure why you'd make this assumption about hydras....

I was not making any kind of assumption? Did you miss the part where I asked a question about the hydras because I wasn't entirely sure about the history of that mechanic?

Really not sure why the N1 kill of LIS is odd? Can someone explain that? I'm very new to wolf night kill logic having wolfed once. At the point he was killed, the shade/village feelz he had were not solid enough to count for much after he was wolf killed, but he tends to get there quickly. He just never struck me as good wolf distraction either, just solid village usually. Seems to me that his early night kill wouldn't provide much data to hurt the wolves, and letting him live would do more to help village. So why would veteran wolves hold back on him? Just seems to me that wanting him dead early isn't proof of veteran or noob wolf pack, just good strategy. ???

We've been over this several times. It's odd because it's just kind of a jerk move to kill a veteran N1. Unless for some reason the wolves had very good reasons already to off him, which is unlikely. It sucks for noobs, but it's a lot easier for wolves to sleep at night if they kill noobs earlier in the game rather than veterans. Typically the veterans have some friendship/camaraderie with each other at a level that noobs haven't reached yet so it's nicer to let the veterans live longer. Just kind of thing the noobs have had to deal with as a "welcome to the game" 😛 At least in my wolfing experience this is how it's been.

 

[allieh8607]

Re: someone (I forgot who) asking who was the first person to mention a potential noob heavy wolf pack with a veteran who wasn't around when they made the kill:

It was allieh.

I never posited a noob wolf pack or made assumptions about why the wolves chose LIS as their N1, and maybe it doesn't even matter.

I made a joke to Nokia when she said the wolf pack should never appear to be working together on thread, that she was helping "the noob wolf pack" (because the veteran wolves know this, if there was a noob wolf pack, she just gave away strategy! haha)

Nice try, but it was not me. I think it was nohika, and I was agreeing with her. See below.

Srsly people stop convert hunting. Also like. Why are we so caught up on the hydra?

Feels to me imo like one of those conversations you'd push to keep suspicions on someone else.

I'll go through and throw out a lynch vote later, but I'd bet not just based on numbers but on kill choice there's a blend of newer/older players, probably heavy on newer, with the possibility that the older player was away when the kill was decided. If I remember right, the last time LIS was killed on N1 that was the reason?

 

[VicariousAsparagus]

I finally have time to catch up. Standby please.


What. Why would you vote for yourself though? You can still be helpful regardless of role/ability, even as vanillager, it’s just not as obvious how.

Care to share which posts in particular seem suspicious to you and why? I don’t particularly like that your analysis is mostly a superficial recap without much explaining why someone is wolfy or village based on their actions.

Lynch Lawpy

In case I can’t fully catch up in the next 20 minutes, but may waffle.

I didn't have any votes against me (Shockingly!), so voting for myself seemed to be a good way to effectively not cast a vote and to avoid drawing the ire of voting for someone else without votes (i.e. Pippy).

Also, I was able to segue into it with a narrative. This is of the utmost importance.

 

[nohika]

I didn't have any votes against me (Shockingly!), so voting for myself seemed to be a good way to effectively not cast a vote and to avoid drawing the ire of voting for someone else without votes (i.e. Pippy).

Also, I was able to segue into it with a narrative. This is of the utmost importance.

...

Are you like, a real person? You exist and whatnot?

 

[kaydubs]

All you Knead Lynch Tally

Paws (1) - Cray
Snowy (1) - Trilt

2/21

Deadline 12am EST (~14 hours)

 

[kaydubs]

...

Are you like, a real person? You exist and whatnot?

 

[allieh8607]

Cray, I had been reading you as normal village cray but after your quote dump with not just 1 or 2 but like, 4 different attempts at throwing shade at me, I'm not so sure. Might be placing my vote here today.

 

[Crayola227]

Crayola, if you start this again, I'm going to move my lynch vote to you and park it there. Do you remember in the Michigan game when you thought this was the mechanic? And it turned out I was the village seer who was rezzed as...the village seer?

Not saying we shouldn't eventually look at meats, but right now that is a rabbit hole.

Hardly my point. If Meats knew she would be back, I think it's valid to ask about it. Not sure it wouldn't be.

EDIT: Not sure why it wouldn't be.

 

[VicariousAsparagus]

...

Are you like, a real person? You exist and whatnot?

I may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato.

 

[Trilt]

Oh and still definite feelz on Egg (who ignored my follow-up comment on her crap characterization of the initial StayPos-Finn-Mel situation), and her big ass post kind of reeks of overkill.

 

[Crayola227]

Your reaction to this is making me side eye you a lot. I feel like you of all people understood my frustrations the last couple of games with what I've done to myself D1. And you KNEW I was going to do this, you said it yourself in your spoiler reads list. This is me charging ahead with normal village play. In the last couple of games I played after my hiatus, I was trying to be more present on the thread right from the start and I found that it was either that early thread presence or specific things I said that got people thinking I was sketchy and then they literally wouldn't let it go until I was lynched or night killed. I said I was taking a slower approach to D1, and that was the extent of what I was changing. D1 is over, I've been on the thread, and I've been posting what I consider to be my normal amount. Trying to throw shade at me after D1 is done and over with is not settling well with me.



I was not making any kind of assumption? Did you miss the part where I asked a question about the hydras because I wasn't entirely sure about the history of that mechanic?



We've been over this several times. It's odd because it's just kind of a jerk move to kill a veteran N1. Unless for some reason the wolves had very good reasons already to off him, which is unlikely. It sucks for noobs, but it's a lot easier for wolves to sleep at night if they kill noobs earlier in the game rather than veterans. Typically the veterans have some friendship/camaraderie with each other at a level that noobs haven't reached yet so it's nicer to let the veterans live longer. Just kind of thing the noobs have had to deal with as a "welcome to the game" 😛 At least in my wolfing experience this is how it's been.

Fair enough. I didn't know there was that sort of sentimentality at play with wolf choices of N1 kills. My first game was JDH in Lounge, and despite my time with vetties it still seems bizarre to me that wolves wouldn't be that cutthroat.

Seeing as you're not "lurking" now, there's really not much more to my D1 observation than just that, I hope.

 

[PippyPony]

Fair enough. I didn't know there was that sort of sentimentality at play with wolf choices of N1 kills. My first game was JDH in Lounge, and despite my time with vetties it still seems bizarre to me that wolves wouldn't be that cutthroat.

Seeing as you're not "lurking" now, there's really not much more to my D1 observation than just that, I hope.

Dude, I also wrote you an epic about wolf kill selections when we wolfed together.

Lynch Crayola

Mostly because you should know all this stuff by now and it feels like you're trying to start things on purpose. May waffle later. I'm going skiing for most of today 🙂)) , will catch up later tonight.

 

[Trilt]

Fair enough. I didn't know there was that sort of sentimentality at play with wolf choices of N1 kills. My first game was JDH in Lounge, and despite my time with vetties it still seems bizarre to me that wolves wouldn't be that cutthroat.

Yeah Lounge games definitely don't have any sentimentality or bias in initial kills...

#stillbitter from Christmas game.

 

[VicariousAsparagus]

Lawper being village feels like the first bit of significance I have to go on. I like his/her list of potential wolves. I'm basically certain killer is a wolf, but they aren't pack leader, so there's no point in lynching just yet. Better to pursue lynches that might disrupt pack tactics or yield more information.

Cdoc raised my suspicions with the lengthy D2 post, but that could be down to different playstyles.

Mel was an early vote against law, but later switched after a significant number of people went against lawper. This seems like a clever idea as a wolf, as it would remove your name from the list of lynch votes against the vanillager. If he's a wolf, he may be playing a leadership role. Big, if true. Could be an honest switch though.

I have suspicions about others, but for now I'm willing to attribute those suspicions to personality rather than alignment.

I'm likely to be gone into Monday, so I'm going to cast my lynch now.

Lynch Mel

 

[fromthebox]

[QUOTE="VicariousAsparagus, post: 19624089, ]I'm basically certain killer is a wolf, but they aren't pack leader, so there's no point in lynching just yet. Better to pursue lynches that might disrupt pack tactics or yield more information.[/QUOTE]

Uh, if you are certain of a wolf you should lynch them!
What makes you certain of killer?!?



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[Crayola227]

Dude, I also wrote you an epic about wolf kill selections when we wolfed together.

Lynch Crayola

Mostly because you should know all this stuff by now and it feels like you're trying to start things on purpose. May waffle later. I'm going skiing for most of today 🙂)) , will catch up later tonight.

um, what? actually, I just went back to that PM, where I asked you about wolf kill choices

just because you have some idea about leaving players in for fun based on how long they lived last game, how much they participate (almost verbatim quotes from that PM, but not quoting because TOS violation, but I know Trilt was in that one) does not speak for every wolf

In the big write up you sent me, in your FIRST PARAGRAPH you acknowledge that most wolves like to take out good wolf hunters early. You had some great points, however MORE THAN ONCE you talked about how you like to leave people in just for more fun, not to crush the village.

I didn't just ask you because I needed the help (I did) but also because I thought some of your choices in that game as wolves didn't make good strategic sense for winning. I agree that WW should be fun but it's also a game that's win or lose.

So if it seems I should just "know this stuff" the reality is that I'm still questioning why we take that for granted, when frankly, that play style doesn't make logical sense for minority wolves trying to win.

You are actually the one trying to start something here with me. I saw it when I made an off-topic and totally innocent joke to LIS about wolf packs taking out "Rambos" day 1. Even Mel called you out for it.

I know that wolves know that I'm easy to rile up as a distraction, and I wondered that with Ski. With you, I'm going to say it's a for sure because I know that's what you like to do.

I'm also a really easy bandwagon lynch as was shown in MI - the thinking there was crap.

I'm not voting you yet, because I'm not sure you're a wolf. I don't even think you think I'm a wolf (which should get you a vote for voting me). I'm not sure you're a wolf because I'm not sure you'd be this transparent. You probably would.