WWildzoo Family Reunion - Game Thread

[Crayola227]

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unkill dolph

kill Snowy

 

[Crayola227]

oh, frak, that just makes it closer to tie, not exactly what I thought was gonna happen

 

[Crayola227]

is it worse if I just unkill again?

 

[Crayola227]

I have no idea what to make of KC

 

[Karabiner13]

Night closed, results pending!

 

[KCgophervet]

unkill dolph

kill Snowy

That's what you tell all the girls

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

I don't want to create a tie, and I don't know that I even want to save KC, as much as I want to be sure that Snowy is cracked

Note that I wasn't keen to go after Glamm with her sketch af everything, because I listed clearly that I do consider a lot more than just ability and its traditional affiliation associations

True

 

[Karabiner13]

Check your votes!

N5 AM Is Our Queen Night Kill Tally

kc (7) - SAR, jboo, skimble, dolphin, snowy, am, genny
snowy (5) - cray, allie, stagg, kc, capri
MJ () -
dolphin (3) - Pip, finn, mj

15/15 votes

 

[KCgophervet]

Check your votes!

N5 AM Is Our Queen Night Kill Tally

kc (7) - SAR, jboo, skimble, dolphin, snowy, am, genny
snowy (5) - cray, allie, stagg, kc, capri
MJ () -
dolphin (3) - Pip, finn, mj

15/15 votes

And yet here we all are

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Glamm came off wolf to me not taking that ability into account

Snowy isn't coming off bad to me for her ability, it's the way she's talked about it now, what she's saying I said wasn't what I said by a long shot

Shore. But it's how I interpreted it. I'm not purposely trying to twist your words. What good would that do if I were a villager?

 

[WildZoo]

WW is sirius bizness @kcoughli. Guess no one around here wanted to be entertained 😉

 

[Karabiner13]

Night 5

It seems a contest of who could be the sketchiest was being held tonight to determine the night kill. Eyes steadily turned to one grandmanatee who was also an adopted wolfatee and a modatee as the night wore on. His lasting legacy now is his wit and limitless ability to turn a phrase. Let's listen in to his last words:

"Step it up nerd, damn.

Dear Diary,
This game is hard and I wish I was better at it. Maybe Santa can bring me some leet reading comprehension skills this Christmas.
Love, Me.

P.S. that STL mod is a total hottie.

Gonna need a ton of peanut butter to go with all this jelly

You get drunk enough, you find out"

Dead is @kcoughli who was Bear, a wolf who could add anonymous additions to the lynch write-up

It is now Day 5. Get your actions in! Deadline is 9am EST.

Family Members:
1. @Mad Jack
2. @allieh8607
3. @Animal Midwife
4. @dolphin106258
5. @SARdoghandler
9. @johnnaboo
10. @SnowshoeDog143
11. @finnickthedog
12. @capri1722 (formerly caiter)
13. @PippyPony
14. @genny
16. @Stagg737
18. @Crayola227
20. @Skimble

Dead:
Skiski - Kaydubs, vanilla wolf
Weim - STL, ninja
Shelter - Sporty, designated survivors
Sporty - Trilt, illusion remover
Glamm - Jboo, 1x night kill avoidance
Kcough - Bear, lynch write-up additions

 

[Karabiner13]

Lynch closed, results pending!

 

[Trilt]

********

Dead is @SportPonies who was Trilt, a wolf with the ability to remove any illusions from a player each day

(I enjoy this role)!
********

 

[Karabiner13]

Day 5

There is no Dubz in WW without MJ and so at our family reunion, despite not having a traditional connection to the family tree, MJ was an honored guest. Everyone could recall his legendary on-thread blowups in many a game he played. He couldn't help it. Sometimes one just needed to have a good blowup to get people off your back. It wasn't necessarily affiliation indicative.

Slowly, one who had gone by many names but was still dear to Dubz's heart snuck up on MJ. Despite coming from a line of wolves, she was a villager at heart and MJ just needed to go. Somehow she managed to forget that MJ could blow up. As she got the noose around his neck and strung him up in a tree, she finally realized she had been hearing ticking. Too late to get away from the blast, both MJ and Sandy were vaporized.

Dead is @allieh8607 who was Mad Jack, a wolf who if lynched would take her lyncher with her or if night killed could take one person on her night kill

Dead is @finnickthedog who was Sandy/Elkhart, a villager who could block/protect one person each lynch

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Hedging, it's difficult to say whether that is a wolf trait or not. Most people think it is. However, for one individual, they just can't help it regardless of their affiliation. They like a little hedge in their life. A little wiggle room in the reads. Is that such a bad thing? It seems one person thought it was and so they snuck up behind Snowy and shot her.

Dead is @Mad Jack who was Snowy, a vanillager

Please welcome @ziggyandjazzy who is taking over for @SARdoghandler

It is now Night 6. Please vote for your night kill! Deadline is 10pm EST.

Family Members:
3. @Animal Midwife
4. @dolphin106258
5. @ziggyandjazzy (formerly sar)
9. @johnnaboo
10. @SnowshoeDog143
12. @capri1722 (formerly caiter)
13. @PippyPony
14. @genny
16. @Stagg737
18. @Crayola227
20. @Skimble

Dead:
Skiski - Kaydubs, vanilla wolf
Weim - STL, ninja
Shelter - Sporty, designated survivors
Sporty - Trilt, illusion remover
Glamm - Jboo, 1x night kill avoidance
Kcough - Bear, lynch write-up additions
Allie - MJ, bomb
Finn - Sandy/Elkhart, jailer
MJ - Snowy, vanillager

 

[Karabiner13]

A reminder to our dead wolves and villagers to not post strategy

 

[Skimble]

@Crayola227 - I'm not sure if you answered this or not. But, in your mind, is the buddy switcharoo person likely wolf or village?

 

[Karabiner13]

N6 Kill Tally

0/11

Deadline 10pm est (~13.5 hours)

 

[jaboo]

Damn, nice job vig. I assume we have just the convert left?

 

[allieh8607]

*******
YAY! I was so hoping that's how I'd get to use my role. Suck it villagers
*******

 

[PippyPony]

Kill AM

Gonna be a long day away from the computer today (and the rest of this week actually) for me with school, will try to get on as much as possible

 

[PippyPony]

Actually, hold up

I do think AM is one of the best convert candidates, but I think I want to test something else out first

Unkill AM
Kill Capri

 

[PippyPony]

I know nothing about Bottle of Bear. Can someone summarize his/her personality?

He's fun, reclusive, and occasionally likes to take his shirt off for positive attention. Oh and he likes horses, dogs, and nerd stuff.

@Bottle of Bear sound about right? (He's not coming back to this thread. RIP)

 

[Animal Midwife]

Thank god. Now no one ever touch dolphin again.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yo @PippyPony why shouldn't I kill you?

 

[PippyPony]

Yo @PippyPony why shouldn't I kill you?

Good morning to you too, AM

How about you tell me why you should kill me? Let's start there.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Night 1 Mayor Tally
MJ (3) - Sporty, MJ, SAR
Ski (1) - finn
Pippy (2) - Pippy, kc
jboo (1) - jboo
AM (6) - AM, shelter, Skim, dolphin, Weim, Glam
Sporty () -
finn (3) - Snowy, Cait, Ski
Stagg (2) - Cray, Stagg
Snowy (1) - genny
Cray (1) - allie

20/20

Night 2 Kill Tally
MJ () -
SAR (2) - snowy, jboo
Weim (7) - genny, sar, caiter, sporty, mj, pippy, cray
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (5) - Skim, finn, kcough, allie, weim
Glam () -
Caiter (2) - dolphin, glam
am () -
kaydubz (1) - stagg
jboo (1) - am

19/19

Night 3 Kill Tally
allie () -
shelter (7) - sporty, jboo, cray, skim, sar, glam, kcough
snowy (1) - am
glam (1) - pippy
dolphin (1) - allieh
am (3) - finn, stagg, mj
stagg (3) - dolphin, snowy, genny
jboo (1) - shelter

17/18
Missing: Cait

Night 4 Kill Tally
glam (4) - dolphin, jboo, pippy, genny
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (2) - cray, allieh
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough
jboo (1) - glam
kc (2) - sar, skim
cray (1) - sporty

16/17
Missing: Cait

Night 5 Kill Tally
kc (7) - SAR, jboo, skimble, dolphin, snowy, am, genny
snowy (4) - cray, allie, stagg, kc, capri
MJ () -
dolphin (3) - Pip, finn, mj

15/15 votes

 

[Animal Midwife]

Good morning to you too, AM

How about you tell me why you should kill me? Let's start there.

Okay, let me get some quotes.

 

[jaboo]

Top convert choices for me would be AM, Cait/Capri, and SAR/Zig.

I’m not sure if the villagers would want to convert SAR after taking out Weim though. And AM may have been too obvious a choice.

Are we thinking that the conversion happened the day after Weim’s kill, right?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Night 1 Mayor Tally
MJ (3) - Sporty, MJ, SAR
Ski (1) - finn
Pippy (2) - Pippy, kc
jboo (1) - jboo
AM (6) - AM, shelter, Skim, dolphin, Weim, Glam
Sporty () -
finn (3) - Snowy, Cait, Ski
Stagg (2) - Cray, Stagg
Snowy (1) - genny
Cray (1) - allie

20/20

Night 2 Kill Tally
MJ () -
SAR (2) - snowy, jboo
Weim (7) - genny, sar, caiter, sporty, mj, pippy, cray
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (5) - Skim, finn, kcough, allie, weim
Glam () -
Caiter (2) - dolphin, glam
am () -
kaydubz (1) - stagg
jboo (1) - am

19/19

Night 3 Kill Tally
allie () -
shelter (7) - sporty, jboo, cray, skim, sar, glam, kcough
snowy (1) - am
glam (1) - pippy
dolphin (1) - allieh
am (3) - finn, stagg, mj
stagg (3) - dolphin, snowy, genny
jboo (1) - shelter

17/18
Missing: Cait

Night 4 Kill Tally
glam (4) - dolphin, jboo, pippy, genny
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (2) - cray, allieh
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough
jboo (1) - glam
kc (2) - sar, skim
cray (1) - sporty

16/17
Missing: Cait

Night 5 Kill Tally
kc (7) - SAR, jboo, skimble, dolphin, snowy, am, genny
snowy (4) - cray, allie, stagg, kc, capri
MJ () -
dolphin (3) - Pip, finn, mj

15/15 votes

Are you still suspicious of snowy for the vote or no?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I mean, are you still thinking snowy is suspicious and going to vote to kill

 

[Stagg737]

Damn, nice job vig. I assume we have just the convert left?

You're welcome again. I was Samurai not vig though. Now can we please

Kill Snowy

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler: Night 2/Day 2

Kill MJ

oooOoOo gives me shivers to put that on the thread

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I was scrolling through stuff again bc studying sucks and this jumped out at me. I'm wondering why you think this specifically.

Do you have any other questions for anyone?

Currently? No.

Cool.

You maybe wanna take a rain check and get back to me on that?

😕 Should she? If you've noticed something, by all means, point it out.

I just would like to hear more at some point, since she took the time to ask a question that had already been asked by somebody else

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You sticking with that MJ vote there @PippyPony ?

For right now? Yep, happily hanging out here, thanks for asking

If I'm reading the thread correctly, I don't think we should be killing Caiter, so I will move if it gets down to that

Any thoughts on the leaders?

I think SAR feels a little too flippant/sassy to be her village self, and I think Sporty feels a little different than the last game and dropped a lazy vote. I have concerns about others, which is why I haven't voted for any of the leaders in the first place

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Unkill MJ
Kill SportySpice

All I have going for Sporty is vague difference to last game, and I'm historically not great at reading her anyways; would rather lose that than someone with a vouch

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Also caiter and finn you have already shared roles? On D2?

I haven't. I've had no reason to.

Caiter did not immediately share her role with me, although she did share her night results pretty early on. She shared more information when it became apparent she was at serious risk of being lynched and wanted me to help defend.

Just role?

I have since shared more with her.

I have enough information about Caiter that I feel strongly about pushing this lynch away from her.


Does anybody have a tally?

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unkill SAR
kill caiter

Wait but why

my main reason for voting SAR poofed when AM was willing to move her vote. my next best feels are for caiter. and i'm not feeling the sporty killing at all.

Ok but like, did you read the thread?

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Do you all realize how much of a freaking runaway this is right now on such little info.

Do not lynch me.

Can anyone actually vouch for you at all?

I acted on @Mad Jack last night but don’t know what kind of notification he got

Unnight kill caiter, night kill weim

Unkill Sporty
Kill Weim

Unkill Weim
Kill jboo

The actual **** AM?

there's so much switching and I can't handle it

So you switched more?

Makes sense

but it did nothing to save either of them

I know and I'm not sure how I was supposed to.

Did you get appointed to the Office of Chaos Affairs or something instead of getting elected mayor?

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s i g h

Unkill Weim
Kill Sporty

Tell me more about this vote, AM

I switched to break the tie between Sporty and Cait.

Do you deny that it looks somewhat odd in retrospect that you were ~so stressed~ and in doing this, had an excuse to not vote for a villager?

I don't really think it was an excuse. I was only voting there because people wanted Cait saved. But me being stressed is pretty NAI imo.

I think it's pretty typical for you to be stressed; I think it is somewhat less typical for you to throw a lynch away from a bad guy and then onto someone who you had not brought up at all

I later moved back when it was clear Cait was safe.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Top convert choices for me would be AM, Cait/Capri, and SAR/Zig.

I’m not sure if the villagers would want to convert SAR after taking out Weim though. And AM may have been too obvious a choice.

Are we thinking that the conversion happened the day after Weim’s kill, right?

Why are those your top convert choices? I don’t see AM being likely as MJ and Finn have voted to kill her several times.

 

[PippyPony]

Spoiler: Night 2

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Sooooo what is your takeaway here

You think I voted for MJ, and kept telling people he was acting sketchy, and we both bussed our untrackable villager?

Try again, AM

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sooooo what is your takeaway here

You think I voted for MJ, and kept telling people he was acting sketchy, and we both bussed our untrackable villager?

Try again, AM

I'm not done yet.

 

[Skimble]

Why are those your top convert choices? I don’t see AM being likely as MJ and Finn have voted to kill her several times.

MJ knows he will eventually get killed in most games. He would absolutely cast shade towards their convert to throw people off when he dies and turns up red.

 

[PippyPony]

I'm not done yet.

Cool, have fun with that, I guess?

I'm not the droid you are looking for, though, sorry

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Day 5

There is no Dubz in WW without MJ and so at our family reunion, despite not having a traditional connection to the family tree, MJ was an honored guest. Everyone could recall his legendary on-thread blowups in many a game he played. He couldn't help it. Sometimes one just needed to have a good blowup to get people off your back. It wasn't necessarily affiliation indicative.

Slowly, one who had gone by many names but was still dear to Dubz's heart snuck up on MJ. Despite coming from a line of wolves, she was a villager at heart and MJ just needed to go. Somehow she managed to forget that MJ could blow up. As she got the noose around his neck and strung him up in a tree, she finally realized she had been hearing ticking. Too late to get away from the blast, both MJ and Sandy were vaporized.

Dead is @allieh8607 who was Mad Jack, a wolf who if lynched would take her lyncher with her or if night killed could take one person on her night kill

Dead is @finnickthedog who was Sandy/Elkhart, a villager who could block/protect one person each lynch

​

Hedging, it's difficult to say whether that is a wolf trait or not. Most people think it is. However, for one individual, they just can't help it regardless of their affiliation. They like a little hedge in their life. A little wiggle room in the reads. Is that such a bad thing? It seems one person thought it was and so they snuck up behind Snowy and shot her.

Dead is @Mad Jack who was Snowy, a vanillager

Please welcome @ziggyandjazzy who is taking over for @SARdoghandler

It is now Night 6. Please vote for your night kill! Deadline is 10pm EST.

Family Members:
3. @Animal Midwife
4. @dolphin106258
5. @ziggyandjazzy (formerly sar)
9. @johnnaboo
10. @SnowshoeDog143
12. @capri1722 (formerly caiter)
13. @PippyPony
14. @genny
16. @Stagg737
18. @Crayola227
20. @Skimble

Dead:
Skiski - Kaydubs, vanilla wolf
Weim - STL, ninja
Shelter - Sporty, designated survivors
Sporty - Trilt, illusion remover
Glamm - Jboo, 1x night kill avoidance
Kcough - Bear, lynch write-up additions
Allie - MJ, bomb
Finn - Sandy/Elkhart, jailer
MJ - Snowy, vanillager

Do they always say when someone has been converted? I find Finn's ability, as a villager interesting. So she could have been protecting the bad guys from things at night or preventing people from doing their actions?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I'm off to class but I will be back on later

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

MJ knows he will eventually get killed in most games. He would absolutely cast shade towards their convert to throw people off when he dies and turns up red.

Also why does he always seem to be evil? lol

 

[PippyPony]

Do they always say when someone has been converted? I find Finn's ability, as a villager interesting. So she could have been protecting the bad guys from things at night or preventing people from doing their actions?

Well, there was a 2 shot assassin and a bomb, so it makes sense to balance that out

Jailers are not super common as a villager role, but they have utility for both affiliations

I don't think Finn was the convert -- I doubt they would have had the convert out killing

 

[PippyPony]

Also why does he always seem to be evil? lol

Because it's MJ lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler: Night 3/Day 3

Some still felt the need to stay indoors, napping safe in their beds. Others started to get the feeling that they were hanging with the wrong crowd and maybe the family business wasn't for them.

Okay, but people saw this right?

Well now I did 😛

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I think I want to hear more from glam, skim, and stagg today

I also didn't like the timing of how MJ jumped on the thread last night. I know he was on the Weim vote, but he loves to ride the bus.

Also think it would be worth looking at SportySpice since she got so snappy around that lynch.

Kill glam

For now

I literally broke the tie to keep someone I know to be a wolf alive, contributing to an early villager kill. If that's suspicious you are an idiot

Actually, you made the tie. Also, what are your current thoughts?

I mean, to be fair, you almost made another one. If the tie itself is what you're focusing on here, I'm not sure you have a great argument.

Aw, you sure know how to flatter a girl 😍

Are you saying no one is allowed to question you now that you've killed a villager?

I'm saying if I were a villager what I did made no sense, I easily could have buried sporty who was gunning for an easy bandwagon killin'

Except that now you can say this, which is literally the reason why bad guys kill their friends.

And I don't think you could have buried Sporty as easily as you're claiming -- if she asked you to vouch for her and she didn't end up getting killed, you'd be completely screwed afterwards

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It's convert hunting early that I don't like. Knowing when it happened for when all the originals are gone is invaluable to me though.

I mean, there could be other explanations for why there might not have been any deaths, though. 2 ability claims on the thread being one.

I get that the writeup kind of suggests a conversion, but there's also a chance you're misinterpreting or that it's intentionally misleading or something. D2 is awfully damn early for a conversion. And even if you're not misinterpreting, the lack of dead wolves could be attributed to something else. We don't know for sure what the conditions are, and it feels weird to me to have a conversion happen this early in the game, dead villager or no

Sure, but we also just killed a villager. Also that was a mechanic in WW Dogs as well, the woofs got a conversion after the first packmate died. So it’s not unheard of, but I agree it is less likely.

Yeah I mean I'm not saying it's not a possibility, and I agree that the writeup would suggest it. I'm just saying it's not the only possibility, and I personally get a bit wary of something that appears to be obvious but happens at what I would consider to be a strategically odd time.

Sure, but we also just killed a villager. Also that was a mechanic in WW Dogs as well, the woofs got a conversion after the first packmate died. So it’s not unheard of, but I agree it is less likely.

No one is obligated to agree with me nor am I saying mine is 100% correct and unrefutable. I'm just bringing stuff to attention that people may have glossed over. When I do inevitablely in up in dead chat, I'd like as few things to rage about as possible.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a chaos in this game (probs MJ-based). It may be hinting at that?

How do you feel about that in correlation to Skim's non-wolf numbers?

How do you know Skim's non-wolf numbers are correct?

Is there a reason I should doubt them?

Is this a serious question?

Yes.

Ok but like...you don't see why there might be problems with blindly trusting what someone says they got for an ask-the-mod question? Unless you know something about Skim that I don't know, I don't see how you'd be ready to completely trust something like that. ESPECIALLY a question that addresses number of villagers and includes a potential avenue for chaos hunting. There's like literally no reason to just be like "oh ok sure, I believe you. 3 non-wolves, got it"

There are exactly two reasons why she would lie about this. I always ask questions like this so see no issue with it, personally. If you doubt it, cool, but I'm allowed to have different opinions.

Yeah but like, at least one of those might be a pretty damn big reason lmao

Okay, so are you ready to vote for her then?

Possibly? I already said I had suspicions there. But that's also not the point -- the point is that I'm not ready to take someone's info like that as fact just because they said it. I'm not sure why you're suddenly acting like that's a weird concept

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I just read back through the first day or so

I'm feeling good about genny, caiter, and SAR based on the whole weim thing. Finn is also probably ok based on how that went down

Jboo has been liking a bunch of my posts/agreeing with me a lot and that is weirding me out a little
Edit: same with Snowy, actually.

Don't have a good read on KC, dolphin, sporty

I still want to hear more from glam and MJ

If I didn't mention you, nothing really stuck out for the parts I read this time around

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Night 1 Mayor Tally
MJ (3) - Sporty, MJ, SAR
Ski (1) - finn
Pippy (2) - Pippy, kc
jboo (1) - jboo
AM (6) - AM, shelter, Skim, dolphin, Weim, Glam
Sporty () -
finn (3) - Snowy, Cait, Ski
Stagg (2) - Cray, Stagg
Snowy (1) - genny
Cray (1) - allie

20/20

Night 2 Kill Tally
MJ () -
SAR (2) - snowy, jboo
Weim (7) - genny, sar, caiter, sporty, mj, pippy, cray
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (5) - Skim, finn, kcough, allie, weim
Glam () -
Caiter (2) - dolphin, glam
am () -
kaydubz (1) - stagg
jboo (1) - am

19/19

Night 3 Kill Tally
allie () -
shelter (7) - sporty, jboo, cray, skim, sar, glam, kcough
snowy (1) - am
glam (1) - pippy
dolphin (1) - allieh
am (3) - finn, stagg, mj
stagg (3) - dolphin, snowy, genny
jboo (1) - shelter

17/18
Missing: Cait

Night 4 Kill Tally
glam (4) - dolphin, jboo, pippy, genny
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (2) - cray, allieh
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough
jboo (1) - glam
kc (2) - sar, skim
cray (1) - sporty

16/17
Missing: Cait

Night 5 Kill Tally
kc (7) - SAR, jboo, skimble, dolphin, snowy, am, genny
snowy (4) - cray, allie, stagg, kc, capri
MJ () -
dolphin (3) - Pip, finn, mj

15/15 votes

Finn and Mj voted together a lot. And they kept voting AM, so that makes me feel better that she isn't the convert (but they also could be on her knowing she wasn't going down if she is a convert)

Cait and me were on the finn mayor vote. Say what you will about now I can take village cred from it, but not smart to vote a vanillager bad guy as mayor. Though MJ voted himself for mayor... but thats because he's mj haha.

I don't get much more out of these.. except there is probably a villager among the shelter votes. jboo I feel is clear enough. SAR would possibly be a good convert (but does she play a good enough villager game that they would convert her - WIFOM). So looking at skim and cray for this.

You're welcome again. I was Samurai not vig though. Now can we please

Kill Snowy

What is samurai? Also good job (not good job for the vote though 😛)

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Oh wait, got my post confused. finn was blocker.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Finn - Sandy/Elkhart, jailer
MJ - Snowy, vanillager

Me and my manator going down together 😍

(Also aftergame questions for the mods.. was my role a villager because I complain about wolfing? 🙄)

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Kill Skim

Today is my busy day with school and work so probably won't be around a ton. Hopefully will get back on before lynch close. Skim for reasons stating before. Lots of fluff, not much content. Don't like her position on the shelter lynch or much of her VCA in general.

If anyone is wondering.. no I'm not still supicious of stagg.. for obvious reasons.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Also do we think there is one more original or are we just convert hunting now?

 

[PippyPony]

Also do we think there is one more original or are we just convert hunting now?

I'm guessing there is just a convert left.

I suppose I also possible MJ was the convert since he was vanilla, but I think there were probably better convert options out there. Plus, with the timing of MJ's self mayor vote and the stuff I called out before, I think he is more likely to have been an original.