WWings of WWonder Game Thread

[dolphin106258]

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The issue here is you and others decided to bury me last minute when I wasn't in danger when there were alternative/sketchier options to work with. The way that lynch went was completely inconsiderate seeing that I was waiting to hear from others for more details on their reads on me. At least in your case, you were able to reply to quotes and defend and I even swinged my vote away from you to MsPro. But no, let's just be a jerk and bury me last minute without allowing me to defend and expecting me to answer everything at once.

Hard dislike. I’m not trying to continue the conversation/argument of if it was fair or polite of how your lynch went down. But literally reading everything last night I’d argue moose was in a very similar situation. And the arguing with her is almost just coming off like who had it worse in that department. And you simultaneously voting for her is not a good look. So if you’d like to be helpful for the village you could drop the issue at this point and wolf hunt. But everyone just doing the same thing they did yesterday with voting moose just feels largely unhelpful.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Hard dislike. I’m not trying to continue the conversation/argument of if it was fair or polite of how your lynch went down. But literally reading everything last night I’d argue moose was in a very similar situation. And the arguing with her is almost just coming off like who had it worse in that department. And you simultaneously voting for her is not a good look. So if you’d like to be helpful for the village you could drop the issue at this point and wolf hunt. But everyone just doing the same thing they did yesterday with voting moose just feels largely unhelpful.

FINALLY SOME FREAKING LOGIC HERE!!!!

 

[Animal Midwife]

My reads (since @Animal Midwife asked)

MsP people keep saying she's playing differently, I'm unsure I do kinda see what people are saying but I don't necessarily agree

Ziggy, I find ziggy to be super sketch

Nav, his reads seem meh, and him jumping on MJ for that vote calling himself "low-hanging fruit" seemed silly. Also, him having just wolfed with me knows how I try to play as a wolf and is now throwing me under the bus. He seems wolfy but I don't know if he would kill miz his first night as a wolf (not because of the whole loving wifey thing) but because she's an easy target, so that makes me lean more village nav.

WZ seems off, her tone isn't as hunty as normal, not as aggressive.

SAR seems normal on thread and in the few PMs we've had.

Lupin, never played with her before but leaning neutral village here.

Finnick seems like village finnick

Lawpy still watching but leaning more village due to reaction after lynch

Miz I'm neutral on, pretty unsure here

Cubs is leaning village, I'm liking her post logic

Dolphin seems a bit quiet but posts seem normal, neutral/village here

Allie seems village self

Genny is normal sassy village self

MPM is falling neutral, a bit unsure about her right now though, something about her posts seem sketch, they have her logic in some of them but she's more appeasing than normal.

FS is leaning sketch but sketch/neutral. Hate the easy vote on me but whatever.

Top 3 wolf leans right now:
Ziggy, WZ, FS

You played with Lupin in Horses. Does that affect anything?

Also, who's FS?

 

[Lawpy]

how the frack do you think I felt? But again, it's a game. Don't take stuff personally. And I didn't swing it to you because you couldn't defend yourself, that's ****ty. I did it because I felt you were sketch. It wasn't random. You say there were more sketchy people, but I found you sketchy. Sorry but that's the way it was.

You were planning on who to swing to and were discussing the options, especially with Ski raising the possibility that she could be the 5th vote. The way that was orchestrated was sketchy on your part. Saying that I'm sketchy is just a way to try to justify the shady voting behavior.

 

[dolphin106258]

lynch mspro

Bc that’s where my feels are at the moment. Going to try and do a more thorough reread of things I had to read fast last night. But overall feel like moose and lawp are village. And so don’t really feel like voting for either of them today. Nor entertaining/dealing with people who are content to just park a vote there and be done for the day.

 

[Lawpy]

Hard dislike. I’m not trying to continue the conversation/argument of if it was fair or polite of how your lynch went down. But literally reading everything last night I’d argue moose was in a very similar situation. And the arguing with her is almost just coming off like who had it worse in that department. And you simultaneously voting for her is not a good look. So if you’d like to be helpful for the village you could drop the issue at this point and wolf hunt. But everyone just doing the same thing they did yesterday with voting moose just feels largely unhelpful.

I'm voting based on that really shady last minute voting behavior and I have no reason to believe she's village. Also the difference is Moosy/Miranda had the time to defend (20 minutes or so). Planning an alternative lynch with Ski being the 5th vote and hunting for options is a sketchy move.

 

[dolphin106258]

I'm voting based on that really shady last minute voting behavior and I have no reason to believe she's village. Also the difference is Moosy/Miranda had the time to defend (20 minutes or so). Planning an alternative lynch with Ski being the 5th vote and hunting for options is a sketchy move.

You’re voting for her Bc of how last night happened Bc you’re mad it has nothing to do with it being Wolfy or not. Also if ski knew she was destined to die why would she collaborate with a wolf/sketchy player to lynch a villager? Also you can continue to complain about timing but not having a lot of time to defend sucks all around whether it’s two minutes or twenty.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

You played with Lupin in Horses. Does that affect anything?

Also, who's FS?

FrostySparrow and let me look back at Horses.

You were planning on who to swing to and were discussing the options, especially with Ski raising the possibility that she could be the 5th vote. The way that was orchestrated was sketchy on your part. Saying that I'm sketchy is just a way to try to justify the shady voting behavior.

Whatever. I think you're village you can think what you want but personally, I think since nothing truly negative came out of it we should move forward.

 

[Lawpy]

You’re voting for her Bc of how last night happened Bc you’re mad it has nothing to do with it being Wolfy or not. Also if ski knew she was destined to die why would she collaborate with a wolf/sketchy player to lynch a villager? Also you can continue to complain about timing but not having a lot of time to defend sucks all around whether it’s two minutes or twenty.

It was enough time to not get her lynched right? And no, I'm not convinced the votes were all village. Wolves have gotten involved in shady last minute self-prez votes before (like mutty in Plants game).

 

[dolphin106258]

It was enough time to not get her lynched right? And no, I'm not convinced the votes were all village. Wolves have gotten involved in shady last minute self-prez votes before (like mutty in Plants game).

You didn’t answer the question, I said if Ski knew she was planning to die do you think she would openly just go help a sketchier player to lynch you off presumably a villager. And yeah so it was enough time to sway people, I am so serious here lawp if you don’t drop it I’m putting you on ignore. You aren’t helping. I’ve come on an hour before close and haven’t been able to sway people before, that’s just the way the cookie crumbled in that situation.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Is there anyone besides nav and miz (now dead, RIP) who doesn't find me wolfy? Are there any other people who find me suspicious besides nyanko, Barkley, and SAR (who have all voted for me) and AM, miranda, Finn, mutts (and maybe more) who have all said I am suspect? Could someone please explain this?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Could people please check this tally
"
OFFICIAL Day 1 Lynch Tally
mpm () -
Nav (2) - AM, AFF
MsP (3) - Skim, Lupin, Lawpy
mutts (1) - finn
genny (1) - MsP
allie () -
cubs () -
Lawpy (5) - MJ, SAR, MOOSE, Ski, miz
miz (3) - cubs, mpm, dolphin
Barks (3) - genny, allie, ziggy
WZ (1) - mutts
ziggy (2) - nyan, Barks
MOOSE (3) - dubz, miz, Nav, Frosty

24/25
Missing: shelter"

to see if it is correct?
Could you please like it if you like it 😉?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is there anyone besides nav and miz (now dead, RIP) who doesn't find me wolfy? Are there any other people who find me suspicious besides nyanko, Barkley, and SAR (who have all voted for me) and AM, miranda, Finn, mutts (and maybe more) who have all said I am suspect? Could someone please explain this?

As I said before, I don't like the way you and Nav are handling each other.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

You played with Lupin in Horses. Does that affect anything?

Also, who's FS?

I looked back at HoWWrses and genuinely don't think I ever got a read on Lupin. I never gave one in the game and I was lynched early in that game as well and never really looked at it again since I was so busy. So, I'm playing this game fresh as well.

 

[dolphin106258]

Is there anyone besides nav and miz (now dead, RIP) who doesn't find me wolfy? Are there any other people who find me suspicious besides nyanko, Barkley, and SAR (who have all voted for me) and AM, miranda, Finn, mutts (and maybe more) who have all said I am suspect? Could someone please explain this?

I don’t particularly find you Wolfy at the moment but I haven’t done a deep dive back over my skimming lol.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I looked back at HoWWrses and genuinely don't think I ever got a read on Lupin. I never gave one in the game and I was lynched early in that game as well and never really looked at it again since I was so busy. So, I'm playing this game fresh as well.

Okay, well I appreciate the list because it already has more thought behind it than Camp.

 

[Lawpy]

You didn’t answer the question, I said if Ski knew she was planning to die do you think she would openly just go help a sketchier player to lynch you off presumably a villager. And yeah so it was enough time to sway people, I am so serious here lawp if you don’t drop it I’m putting you on ignore. You aren’t helping. I’ve come on an hour before close and haven’t been able to sway people before, that’s just the way the cookie crumbled in that situation.

I mean you quoted my post and replied to it saying that you disagree, so I'm just explaining why I'm keeping my vote there. I don't know why Ski would help a sketchy player. Maybe Ski didn't think she was sketchy? But I maintain my ground that I think Moosy is sketchy because of her voting behavior (and yes, wolves can self-prez weirdly in D1 like I mentioned about Plants game). You think it's a distraction because you're village reading both. Unfortunately, I don't think she's village.

But since you're tired of the discussions, I'll just leave it there. I think MsPro is sketchy too. Unsure about Navs or zigjazzy, so neutral for now.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Okay, well I appreciate the list because it already has more thought behind it than Camp.

Thank you 🙂 How are you feeling now? What do you think of people kind of jumping on MsP after you made (what I assume was a joking statement) about MsP voting early?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Thank you 🙂 How are you feeling now? What do you think of people kind of jumping on MsP after you made (what I assume was a joking statement) about MsP voting early?

I don't think anyone cited her early voting as suspect unless I missed something. It was more focused on her context posts following. I have her as neutral currently.

 

[Animal Midwife]

UNOFFICIAL Ruby Rules Day 2 Lynch Tally
Nav (2) - AM, cubs
WZ (1) - mutts
Lawp (1) - MJ
Frosty (1) - allieh
MOOSE (4) - ziggy, shelter, Lawpy, Nav
ziggy (1) - SAR
MsP (1) - dolphin

11/23

Deadline at 9pm Central

 

[dolphin106258]

UNOFFICIAL Ruby Rules Day 2 Lynch Tally
Nav (2) - AM, cubs
WZ (1) - mutts
Lawp (1) - MJ
Frosty (1) - allieh
MOOSE (4) - ziggy, shelter, Lawpy, Nav
ziggy (1) - SAR

10/23

Deadline at 9pm Central

Pssst you missed my vote

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

I don't think anyone cited her early voting as suspect unless I missed something. It was more focused on her context posts following. I have her as neutral currently.

I have MsP as village/neutral
and it's all these posts that I was talking about, looking back it's not terrible

MsP voted early!

She's def a wolf

She voted late last game and was a serial killer so your theory is flawed imo


Also can we not get mad at early voting thanks

You village-reading MsP?

I can't village read anyone at this point. It's page 1. Just saying early voting for her isn't a wolf tell as a bad guy she still voted late to keep in line with her meta. She may have learned people feel more inclined to lynch you if you don't vote early but I could be wrong on that. Why wbu

I’m on page 3, got stuff to do but want to get a vote in.

Lynch msP

For the change in play style. Feels weird.

@Navilly

 

[Animal Midwife]

I have MsP as village/neutral
and it's all these posts that I was talking about, looking back it's not terrible

I only see Skim wolfreading her, but wouldn't mind hearing more from Skim today either.

 

[allieh8607]

I have MsP as village/neutral
and it's all these posts that I was talking about, looking back it's not terrible

Why did my post get lumped in with these

 

[genny]

Is there anyone besides nav and miz (now dead, RIP) who doesn't find me wolfy? Are there any other people who find me suspicious besides nyanko, Barkley, and SAR (who have all voted for me) and AM, miranda, Finn, mutts (and maybe more) who have all said I am suspect? Could someone please explain this?

I don't particularly find you wolfy, but I'm not throwing you in the village pile just yet. You're not as mad at AM as you usually are, and it's weirding me out a little.

Are you going to talk any more about the rest of your night results, since you gave us that teaser earlier?

 

[genny]

lynch shelter

I've seen her ghost as a wolf.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Why did my post get lumped in with these

your @ was in response to skim's post. It was just a bit confusing.

 

[allieh8607]

your @ was in response to skim's post. It was just a bit confusing.

Nav jokingly posted how Skim was going to swoop in and vote, exactly as she did. So when she did so and proved him right, I jokingly tagged him.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Nav jokingly posted how Skim was going to swoop in and vote, exactly as she did. So when she did so and proved him right, I jokingly tagged him.

Thanks for the clarification

 

[Lawpy]

lynch shelter

I've seen her ghost as a wolf.

Interesting. Shelty's null to me but i thought she tends to be inactive as village.

 

[Barkley13]

Lynch allie

I keep coming back to how she said people were joking too much but also it was wolfy to ask questions and be serious. It seems like throwing shade just to throw shade

Could maybe go ziggy today or MsP, but I don't feel as strongly about MsP

I have moose as more neutral right now and lawper as village

 

[allieh8607]

Lynch allie

I keep coming back to how she said people were joking too much but also it was wolfy to ask questions and be serious. It seems like throwing shade just to throw shade

Could maybe go ziggy today or MsP, but I don't feel as strongly about MsP

I have moose as more neutral right now and lawper as village

Ah the old delayed retaliation, I like it

 

[cubsrule4e]

The issue here is you and others decided to bury me last minute when I wasn't in danger when there were alternative/sketchier options to work with. The way that lynch went was completely inconsiderate seeing that I was waiting to hear from others for more details on their reads on me. At least in your case, you were able to reply to quotes and defend and I even swinged my vote away from you to MsPro. But no, let's just be a jerk and bury me last minute without allowing me to defend and expecting me to answer everything at once.

Ok lawp, we all get it, we know you were pissed, i empathized with you honestly, but continuing to just moan about it isn’t getting us anywhere. It’s ok to complain and say it was unfair etc, but we are all very aware of how you feel at this point. Let the personal feelings go now and get back to the game itself.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Hard dislike. I’m not trying to continue the conversation/argument of if it was fair or polite of how your lynch went down. But literally reading everything last night I’d argue moose was in a very similar situation. And the arguing with her is almost just coming off like who had it worse in that department. And you simultaneously voting for her is not a good look. So if you’d like to be helpful for the village you could drop the issue at this point and wolf hunt. But everyone just doing the same thing they did yesterday with voting moose just feels largely unhelpful.

Me and d-fin on the same page for once!

 

[cubsrule4e]

Is there anyone besides nav and miz (now dead, RIP) who doesn't find me wolfy? Are there any other people who find me suspicious besides nyanko, Barkley, and SAR (who have all voted for me) and AM, miranda, Finn, mutts (and maybe more) who have all said I am suspect? Could someone please explain this?

Seem pretty village to me, if not a slightly more ornery tone than usual.

 

[SportPonies]

*****MOD ANNOUNCEMENT*****
Just a reminder for my sanity, I don’t think there’s been anything too wonky:
> if you say “MOOSE”, “moose”, or “Miranda” mods will be taking that as @Miranda Senft
> if you say mpm, mom, moosey, or MLP, mods will be taking that as @mypetmoose

Also hi @killerleaf I saw you like some posts, would you like to be a spectator? 🙂

 

[Lawpy]

*****MOD ANNOUNCEMENT*****
Just a reminder for my sanity, I don’t think there’s been anything too wonky:
> if you say “MOOSE”, “moose”, or “Miranda” mods will be taking that as @Miranda Senft
> if you say mpm, mom, moosey, or MLP, mods will be taking that as @mypetmoose

Also hi @killerleaf I saw you like some posts, would you like to be a spectator? 🙂

also petmoosy for @mypetmoose

 

[cubsrule4e]

also petmoosy for @mypetmoose

And muggles!

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I don't particularly find you wolfy, but I'm not throwing you in the village pile just yet. You're not as mad at AM as you usually are, and it's weirding me out a little.

Are you going to talk any more about the rest of your night results, since you gave us that teaser earlier?

Does it not seem a bit wolfy to make a bird presumably slam into a glass window or something similar?

Also, who is in your village pile? in your wolfy one?

 

[mypetmoose]

I just got here and there's a few extra pages, I'm trying to catch up.
I didn't like ziggy's interactions with people, AM's jokes about MsP voting early were eh (just seems unlike AM), lawpy just voting for me was completely unjustified and it started a "wagon" on me, also you jumping on it trying to say it's how I play as a wolf is throwing me under the bus and making me seem like an easy early lynch

That's what I got from my skimming catching up so far.

This is what Moose posted before things went sideways. She did mention both lawpy and ziggy as those she was suspicious of, and later considered moving the lynch to either. Miz was the one who ended up choosing lawpy. Moose read as desparate to get it switched off of her. Ski was along for the ride.

guess what, you're losing an important role with me too

and

It's a waste of a good role so. whatever.
@mizchiefmanaged i'm willing to go ziggy if you are.

Can you quote her claim? Other than “I is important.” Which anyone can say at anytime. Especially a front runner wolf on a day 1 lynch.

Done did it

I mean you quoted my post and replied to it saying that you disagree, so I'm just explaining why I'm keeping my vote there. I don't know why Ski would help a sketchy player. Maybe Ski didn't think she was sketchy? But I maintain my ground that I think Moosy is sketchy because of her voting behavior (and yes, wolves can self-prez weirdly in D1 like I mentioned about Plants game). You think it's a distraction because you're village reading both. Unfortunately, I don't think she's village.

But since you're tired of the discussions, I'll just leave it there. I think MsPro is sketchy too. Unsure about Navs or zigjazzy, so neutral for now.

Hey lawpy, so I know that this is kind of supposed to be over, but I'm just wondering if any part of this is retalitory? It kind of feels that way a bit. Additionally, if you weren't going to vote Moose, where would you be?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

This is what Moose posted before things went sideways. She did mention both lawpy and ziggy as those she was suspicious of, and later considered moving the lynch to either. Miz was the one who ended up choosing lawpy. Moose read as desparate to get it switched off of her. Ski was along for the ride.


and



Done did it


Hey lawpy, so I know that this is kind of supposed to be over, but I'm just wondering if any part of this is retalitory? It kind of feels that way a bit. Additionally, if you weren't going to vote Moose, where would you be?

Do you not think it's weird that she said she said she was suspicious of me, yet claimed she hadn't read or "didn't know" I wouldn't be on thread?
How do you feel about her willing to switch to me or Lawpy but not bring up nav or barks?

 

[mypetmoose]

Do you not think it's weird that she said she said she was suspicious of me, yet claimed she hadn't read or "didn't know" I wouldn't be on thread?
How do you feel about her willing to switch to me or Lawpy but not bring up nav or barks?

I feel like her saying that she had to catch up still in the post I quoted earlier is probably true. There was a lot to read yesterday, especially if you worked all day. Her being suspicious of you and lawper could have happened from what she did see. I don't know why she didn't choose one of the others in range for a switch, but that doesn't feel affiliation indicative one way or the other for me since she mentioned you both in that first post.

 

[WildZoo]

Also didn’t like Dubz comment about accept the village dubz, that’s what I did in a past game and she was a wolf. So ew

Ah but since you believed so easily when I was a wolf, of course the resistance must mean I am village

 

[WildZoo]

Gone is @mizchiefmanaged - Ruby, Red Tailed Hawk who could use her smarts to make items.
*real Ruby is alive and well in her real flight cage

Oh you mother****ers killed Ruby??? How dare 😢

 

[WildZoo]

If WZ flips village, I'll admit I was wrong and move ziggy to wolfy neutral. If WZ flips wolf, Ziggy is my next vote.

I agree the loudest do usually get more flack but I dont thinkt hats whats happening here. Foutunately we had a good turn out of chatty players so there was a lot to got on imo, which also makes the MOOSE/Lawpy vote look so strange

The way the whole Lawpy or MOOSE vote went down I have them both in my village pile. I'm pretty sure yall moved off of the wolves and I would still like to see a WZ or ziggy flip

Lynch WZ

I dont think Nav/Genny are w/w, definitely could be w/v but holding on which is which. There would be more distance between them unless genny wants to die early (i saw this was covered already 🙂 )

How about you admit you're wrong now and look for a wolf to go after?

What about the lawpy/moose vote has you reading moose village?

 

[WildZoo]

Why am I sketchy to you? Did our time as a hydra mean nothing 🙁?

Not a fan of this emotional manipulation tbh

 

[WildZoo]

Does anyone else agree that NK was pretty cruel hearted?

Yes but unfortunately inevitable since she outted herself as important. Probably no protector up in here unless they weren't paying any attention.

 

[WildZoo]

Did anyone else notice that miranda could have tried to swing the vote to either Nav or barks but instead chose to try to swing it to me, and eventually went with Lawpy? Does anyone else think this would be a good reason to see her flip as it may give us insight into barks and nav as well?

Would it be possible to
Lynch miranda?

Are you admitting this is your fault? Or care to admit to the other part of my night results?

I can get behind this reasoning...will see if moose gave more insights today.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Do you not think it's weird that she said she said she was suspicious of me, yet claimed she hadn't read or "didn't know" I wouldn't be on thread?
How do you feel about her willing to switch to me or Lawpy but not bring up nav or barks?

Could whoever it is post-restrict me next?? It kinda seems like fun!

 

[WildZoo]

I am honestly not sure where to go right now. I am not sure if AM is so far off their game or is just riding the wolf train of tunneling while providing mild inquisitions elsewhere. I think 20% is fueled by vindictiveness from my most recent wolfing experience, where I got her lynched day 1, and then killed her off when she came back because she was a cleared villager.

Cubs will find any excuse to lynch me in just about any game, so it’s mostly NAI.

Moose’s timing yesterday rubbed me the wrong way, and I think that’s where I am going to go.

Based off of how previous mods have done stuff in the past, when you have a wolf that is lynched on day one while someone is fated to die, they will sometimes let wolf chat know not to out themself at that point. Makes that whole drama queen scenario become NAI, not village indicating imo. With how ridiculously over the top it was, and with the tone change and change in attitude, it may even be slight wolfiness indicating, but I would want to find another game where he reacted as such.

Dubz is still lingering in my should probably maintain pressure on each day list, I am not thrilled by their gameplay at this point.

Lupin feels slightly off compared to normal. The early vote on me was also weird, puts them in borderline wolf territory/high neutral.

Mutts is coming off as acting weird to me, which is normally a village associated thing in my mind.

MJ jumping on low hanging fruit makes me also want to vote there, mid wolfiness.

Allieh’s tone has been mildly to moderately off.

Other than that, not a whole lot has truly stuck out to me.

*********lynch moose******

Is MJ being on low hanging fruit votes affiliation indicative for him?
And when have you ever liked my gameplay?