2008-2009 University of Cincinnati Secondary Application Thread

[therocketman]

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goodluck to you both 🙂

 

[WashMe]

your lsat score must make your mcat look mediocre

haha 😉

goodluck to you both 🙂

you too! 👍

 

[DrJD]

goodluck to you both 🙂

Thanks 🙂

Well, hopefully someone will offer some more information at some point! I didn't call the office, but I seem to recall hearing about the notification of rank at my interview day in February. So that meets the criteria of being after yours 🙂

Plus looking through the threads for the past couple years with Cincinnati has people finding out which third they are in. I know there are two separate waitlists. Out of state and instate. So someone in the middle third of the Out of state, may get pulled before someone in the top third of in state, etc.

 

[Pedsbro]

Thanks 🙂

Well, hopefully someone will offer some more information at some point! I didn't call the office, but I seem to recall hearing about the notification of rank at my interview day in February. So that meets the criteria of being after yours 🙂

Plus looking through the threads for the past couple years with Cincinnati has people finding out which third they are in. I know there are two separate waitlists. Out of state and instate. So someone in the middle third of the Out of state, may get pulled before someone in the top third of in state, etc.

This is the case as far as I understand it. When I was a grad student here, several of my classmates applied to UCCOM while doing the program and a few were wait-listed...what you wrote is pretty much exactly what their experience was. Could it have changed since last year? Possibly... Dr. Manuel is pretty forthcoming with information like that, so maybe email him directly with a general question (I would not recommend asking anything about your application personally in regards to waitlist placement and chances).

 

[cc1183]

I spoke to Dr. Manuel today and he said they would, in fact, be e-mailing out rankings in the next week or two (possibly before May 15th). Whether these are thirds or quartiles he didn't know yet.

 

[DrJD]

I spoke to Dr. Manuel today and he said they would, in fact, be e-mailing out rankings in the next week or two (possibly before May 15th). Whether these are thirds or quartiles he didn't know yet.

Thanks for the info!!

 

[phospho]

I spoke to Dr. Manuel today and he said they would, in fact, be e-mailing out rankings in the next week or two (possibly before May 15th). Whether these are thirds or quartiles he didn't know yet.

I'm confused, radio rounds had an interview with Dr. Manuel yesterday noon, and he specifically said that there will be no waitlist ranking at all this year😕

they even have the interview recorded here:

http://www.radiorounds.blogspot.com/

 

[cc1183]

That is strange. Well I'm just going by our conversation in the office today.

 

[cc1183]

I'm confused, radio rounds had an interview with Dr. Manuel yesterday noon, and he specifically said that there will be no waitlist ranking at all this year😕

That is strange. Well, I'm just going by our conversation earlier today.

 

[DrJD]

Here is my theory:

Ranked waitlist does not equal top, middle and bottom third. I think ranked waitlist means that of th 300 people on it, they are each assigned a number from 1 to 300... As spots open up they pull starting with 1...

So I think the information goes together because, while the applicants are split into Tiers, or thirds, within those thirds they aren't ranked.

I dunno, what do you guys think?

 

[jult24er]

Here is my theory:

Ranked waitlist does not equal top, middle and bottom third. I think ranked waitlist means that of th 300 people on it, they are each assigned a number from 1 to 300... As spots open up they pull starting with 1...

So I think the information goes together because, while the applicants are split into Tiers, or thirds, within those thirds they aren't ranked.

I dunno, what do you guys think?

I like it ...

 

[WashMe]

I really think it comes down to a handful of darts and a blindfold.

 

[phospho]

what he said in the radio interview was that all the people accepted into the class fit some sort of criteria, e.g. 10 % black, 10% hispanic, 70% white, 10% undeserved, 10% asian, 50% female, 50% male, 50% instate, etc etc (I'm just making up #'s).

So when an asian male instate student drops out for example, they fill the spot with someone exactly like him, an asian male instate student, etc.

 

[ygree001]

Here is my theory:

Ranked waitlist does not equal top, middle and bottom third. I think ranked waitlist means that of th 300 people on it, they are each assigned a number from 1 to 300... As spots open up they pull starting with 1...

So I think the information goes together because, while the applicants are split into Tiers, or thirds, within those thirds they aren't ranked.

I dunno, what do you guys think?

This is what he said at my interview in early March.

 

[phospho]

This is what he said at my interview in early March.

yup, that's what they said at my interview too... weird

 

[DrJD]

So I confirmed, that we should be getting notices of our position on the waitlist via the mail this week. At least that is their goal, so by the end of the week we should know more info!

 

[ygree001]

So I confirmed, that we should be getting notices of our position on the waitlist via the mail this week. At least that is their goal, so by the end of the week we should know more info!

Thanks for the info. Will that be snail mail of email?
I assume email because that's been the only way they communicate so far.

 

[DrJD]

Thanks for the info. Will that be snail mail of email?
I assume email because that's been the only way they communicate so far.

He said "send out the letter."... So to me that sounds like snail mail?

 

[ygree001]

He said "send out the letter."... So to me that sounds like snail mail?

I guess we'll see.
By the way, I like your blog, I am considering that program and you had some good information.

 

[econdr]

So I confirmed, that we should be getting notices of our position on the waitlist via the mail this week. At least that is their goal, so by the end of the week we should know more info!

I just called the admissions office and asked:

me: "I read that UC will be letting us know our position on the waitlist in the next few days. Is this true"
lady: "No, we never give out that information to our applicants"
me: "really?"
lady: "absolutely, we dont provide that information"

you called the admissions office and asked them, and they told you otherwise? :😕:

 

[DrJD]

I just called the admissions office and asked:

me: "I read that UC will be letting us know our position on the waitlist in the next few days. Is this true"
lady: "No, we never give out that information to our applicants"
me: "really?"
lady: "absolutely, we dont provide that information"

you called the admissions office and asked them, and they told you otherwise? :😕:

The confusion here is the "position on the waitlist" statement... They don't tell us our "position." They tell us what third, quartile, etc we are in.

 

[dakker]

Withdrew today. I wish they had not taken so long to get me my fin aid info (only got it yesterday).

Good luck guys, its a great school.

 

[econdr]

The confusion here is the "position on the waitlist" statement... They don't tell us our "position." They tell us what third, quartile, etc we are in.

Ahh I see. Thanks DrJD

these admissions offices are so cryptic...

 

[takethat12]

The confusion here is the "position on the waitlist" statement... They don't tell us our "position." They tell us what third, quartile, etc we are in.

That seems unreasonably obtuse. Why would someone not mention the third/quartile thing to a wait listed applicant asking anything pertaining to wait list position?

Keep us posted if you hear anything. I sent an email last week asking essentially the same thing and got no response.

 

[DrJD]

That seems unreasonably obtuse. Why would someone not mention the third/quartile thing to a wait listed applicant asking anything pertaining to wait list position?

Keep us posted if you hear anything. I sent an email last week asking essentially the same thing and got no response.

My information was via e-mail, and yea it is slightly obtuse I guess. But the great news is that we'll all be put out of our misery shortly!!

 

[takethat12]

They sent out the "which third you are in" email this morning.

Hope of matriculating this year is alive.

 

[jult24er]

They sent out the "which third you are in" email this morning.

Hope of matriculating this year is alive.

Congrats, good luck!

 

[iamsleepy07]

They sent out the "which third you are in" email this morning.

Hope of matriculating this year is alive.

Good luck! 😀

Anyone know how many people are in each 3rd? Is there an in-state list that is separate from an out-of-state list? And if so, what are the sizes of each list?

Sorry, lots of Qs!

 

[cc1183]

Top 3rd oos!

When I talked to the admissions office last week, I recall 146 oos and around 190 in-state on the waiting list.

 

[ygree001]

Good luck! 😀

... Is there an in-state list that is separate from an out-of-state list?
Sorry, lots of Qs!

No. It will factor into who they pull from the list, but it is all on one list.

 

[econdr]

Middle 1/3

 

[dohgrl76]

Also middle third. IS female.

 

[WashMe]

Top 1/3, In-State 🙂

good luck to everyone!

 

[phospho]

If you guys look at last year's thread, there were people in the middle and bottom third of the list getting pulled off before the people in the top third. Their whole system is very vague.

 

[jult24er]

Top 3rd oos!

When I talked to the admissions office last week, I recall 146 oos and around 190 in-state on the waiting list.

Interesting, thanks!

Wow, thats a lot, even top third would still be more then 100; i cant imagine they get through all that ...

 

[jult24er]

If you guys look at last year's thread, there were people in the middle and bottom third of the list getting pulled off before the people in the top third. Their whole system is very vague.

Hmmm, can you account for those with IS / OOS , M / F ?

 

[WashMe]

If you guys look at last year's thread, there were people in the middle and bottom third of the list getting pulled off before the people in the top third. Their whole system is very vague.

Yeah, I think what you don't see is male v. female, race/ethnicity, in-state/OOS, and, perhaps most importantly, who is withdrawing to open up those spots. I hope there are a bunch of lower-middle class white guys with great stats & research but hollow clinical experiences who drop off on 5/15, haha! 😉

 

[jult24er]

Yeah, I think what you don't see is male v. female, race/ethnicity, in-state/OOS, and, perhaps most importantly, who is withdrawing to open up those spots. I hope there are a bunch of lower-middle class white guys with great stats & research but hollow clinical experiences who drop off on 5/15, haha! 😉

Ouch; its honesty like that that'll turn top shelf stats into a long and arduous application cycle.

 

[WashMe]

Ouch; its honesty like that that'll turn top shelf stats into a long and arduous application cycle.

word, son.

 

[BTC]

word, son.

I think my honesty when asked about promoting non-smoking in medical students in order to promote the health of the general public as 'making absolutely no sense' helped place me in the solid bottom third of the WL.

Oh well. Good luck guys.

 

[causalinference]

I think my honesty when asked about promoting non-smoking in medical students in order to promote the health of the general public as 'making absolutely no sense' helped place me in the solid bottom third of the WL.

Oh well. Good luck guys.

Hahaha, you might be on to something. I said that the issue was "irrelevant," and I got put into the bottom third too.

 

[whoisthedrizzle]

Middle third, IS. Thought it was a soft reject when I saw the e-mail, but from what you all said there is something of a shot. Did the middle third see any movement last year?

 

[causalinference]

Middle third, IS. Thought it was a soft reject when I saw the e-mail, but from what you all said there is something of a shot. Did the middle third see any movement last year?

Yes, there was movement in the middle third last year before all of the top third was depleted. It seemed like they were jumping around.

 

[DrJD]

Yes, there was movement in the middle third last year before all of the top third was depleted. It seemed like they were jumping around.

I interviewed with someone who was middle third in state last year and didn't get off, but apparently friends of his who were lower third out of state did get off...

I think Out of state has a better shot off the waitlist.

 

[causalinference]

I interviewed with someone who was middle third in state last year and didn't get off, but apparently friends of his who were lower third out of state did get off...

I think Out of state has a better shot off the waitlist.

It probably varies from year to year. If they already accepted a lot of OOS students, they might take more IS students off the waitlist. I imagine that they try to maintain a certain balance of statistics and compensate for deficiencies where necessary.

 

[DrJD]

It probably varies from year to year. If they already accepted a lot of OOS students, they might take more IS students off the waitlist. I imagine that they try to maintain a certain balance of statistics and compensate for deficiencies where necessary.

Yea you are right, statistically though I guess more OOS people withdraw than In state, which is why out of state sees more movement. Plus they try and fill in with out of state because it makes them more money during that first year.

 

[dingyibvs]

Middle 1/3, OOS Male.

Anybody know when the movement starts? Judging by last year's thread, it seems like they start moving pretty soon after 5/15.

 

[takethat12]

The silence in this thread is deafening.

 

[DrJD]

The silence in this thread is deafening.

Based on last years thread I'm surprised there wasn't a bunch of movement today. But the Friday, Monday thing is a little weird. My guess is that today they got their stuff together after giving people till close of business on Friday, and movement will start in mass tomorrow. Good luck!

 

[ygree001]

Did other (waitlisted) people get a financial aid package today?