I think you are required to complete the courses and graduate. I would assume since Biochem is not a requirement, as long as it doesn't prevent you from graduating, you should be fine. Hypothetically speaking.
Very good to hear!
I think you are required to complete the courses and graduate. I would assume since Biochem is not a requirement, as long as it doesn't prevent you from graduating, you should be fine. Hypothetically speaking.
Hypothetically, if I get a D in my current biochem class (which is fine for me to graduate from undergrad), will this affect my matriculation to USUHS? 😕
Yeah, don't sweat the D in biochem. By the time USUHS actually finds out, they will have already dropped way too much $$ on you to have any second thoughts about accepting you.
That said-- You will be retaking biochem in the Fall; so it would behoove you to start trying a little harder. Biochem is the worst first year class, and the one most likely to give you academic issues.
i received my ACUs too! everything fits well except the patrol cap.. its the same size as my beret but too small for my head.. Andrew i bought from uspatriottactical also.. do you know how their return/exchange policy is like? their website is down for some reason
Do they ever write orders before an unconditional acceptance is given? In other words, once you are sent orders, does that mean that your acceptance is unconditional?
EDIT The reason I ask is because I have been given orders but I haven't gottne a letter saying I've been unconditionally accepted.
To any people already at USUHS, could you tell me is there any reason not to get commissioned as early as possible?
I talked with my local Army Medical recruiter and they have told me as soon as I have proof that I'll be attending USUHS I can come in, fill out the paper work and take the oath. I now have my unconditional acceptance, my 1223 form signed by Louise Taylor and my orders to USUHS.
I was hoping to get commissioned today, drive to Ft. McCoy tomorrow to buy my uniforms and get my ID and finish the 3 online courses required of us at OBLC this week, just to get as much out of the way as possible, (going on a long family vacation next week but military comes first🙂
Is there some reason why I should wait, (ie am I violating some written or unwritten rules)?
Cannot do it. Last year the policy was that you could not date your DA-71 (Oath of Office) sooner than 2 days before your OBLC report date if you flew or 5 days if you drove. It affects your pay. Similar instructions should have been sent out along with your orders and blank DA-71.To any people already at USUHS, could you tell me is there any reason not to get commissioned as early as possible?
I talked with my local Army Medical recruiter and they have told me as soon as I have proof that I'll be attending USUHS I can come in, fill out the paper work and take the oath. I now have my unconditional acceptance, my 1223 form signed by Louise Taylor and my orders to USUHS.
I was hoping to get commissioned today, drive to Ft. McCoy tomorrow to buy my uniforms and get my ID and finish the 3 online courses required of us at OBLC this week, just to get as much out of the way as possible, (going on a long family vacation next week but military comes first🙂
Is there some reason why I should wait, (ie am I violating some written or unwritten rules)?
Yup, plenty of time to get fitted for ASUs. That's how most people got them last summer. Also, it's likely that the ASU inspection at OBLC will NOT be for USUHS students, just for the physicians, dentists, vets, etc headed off to their first duty station after just graduating school. That's how it was last summer. We didn't have our first official ASU inspection until October.Will there be time to get ASU's there? They said they're going to do an ASU inspection at BOLC this year, I don't know if it's a good idea to order it online.
Cannot do it. Last year the policy was that you could not date your DA-71 (Oath of Office) sooner than 2 days before your OBLC report date if you flew or 5 days if you drove. It affects your pay. Similar instructions should have been sent out along with your orders and blank DA-71.
Also, good luck on getting an ID before arriving at Ft. Sam. It ain't going to happen. You aren't in their system. It took a week or two AFTER getting to Ft. Sam for most non-priors to get updated in the system.
Just calm down. I know you want to get everything squared away before hand, but you will have plenty of very boring time in Texas to get it all accomplished.
All that matters is that you have a DA-71 commissioning you into the Regular Army dated a few days before OBLC starts. Every other DA-71 you have is technically invalid, but doesn't matter much because at this point they are just pieces of paper; your recruiters couldn't change anything in the system. Honestly if you are itching that bad to get on base 2 months before your training, those will probably be sufficient (albeit invalid) in getting you through the gates. Just know that you're gonna have to re-oath before OBLC.Oh boy, I may have screwed up (hopefully not too badly since the Army med recruiters didn't mention there being an issue). Went into the recruiter this morning and took my oath. They printed up 2 versions of the DA 71 for me, both reserve and regular army, because I am 7 weeks out from OBLC.
I'll call Louise Taylor tomorrow and find out whats what, (as well as head out to Ft. McCoy and get my uniforms). As for the ID thing, I'll stop by the ID office to make sure, but if that's the way it is so be it.
I have a question regarding the time period between OBLC and when we report to USUHS. I'm from California and am planning to drive my car and belongings out to USUHS. Since the time between end of OBLC and reporting isn't that long, will the Army have me drive to OBLC and then to USUHS or are they going to fly me to OBLC, then fly me back to California, then have me drive to USUHS from my permanent home?
Any insight, suggestions, or advice would be greatly appreciated!
My recommendation would be to drive straight from California to OBLC to USUHS. You can arrange to have your household goods shipped out of California before you leave for OBLC or even while you're at OBLC. You don't have to physically be there when the movers come to pick everything up if you have a family member or friend willing to be there.
Your closest Army, Navy, or Air Force base will suffice. Hell, even Coast Guard might work; I'm not sure. The transpo office at any of those can get your paperwork started. However, this is all contingent upon you having both your orders to Ft. Sam and orders to USUHS, and getting on base.Thank you for all the advice! It looks like I'll go with the partial DITY. Is there a website where I can locate the nearest TMO/JPPSO office near me to get all the paperwork started?
Anyone recently accepted off the waitlist??![]()
Your closest Army, Navy, or Air Force base will suffice. Hell, even Coast Guard might work; I'm not sure. The transpo office at any of those can get your paperwork started. However, this is all contingent upon you having both your orders to Ft. Sam and orders to USUHS, and getting on base.
Having just come back from a 2 day trip to Fort McCoy to get my uniforms I strongly second this.
It turns out my Army HPSP recruiter was totally wrong about getting commissioned, (invalid since I don't have the appointment yet) and about going to my nearest post to get uniforms, (before I am in the DEER system, so I can't get ID).
I spent the first 2 hours at the security office trying to get a vehicle visitor pass, only got in once they called the CPT that commissioned me, (incorrectly) who vouched that I was a commissioned officer, (which I am not yet).
I did learn a few valuable things however.
1. Its worth trying on the uniforms in person, the sizes that fit me best were not what I expected.
2. Buying the stuff you need for OBLC takes longer than I expected, I spent a good 5-6 hours before I had the entire list purchased. So if you can, buy your uniforms ahead of time so you don't have to rush at Ft. Sam.
2. The folks at the Post Exchange are super helpful with getting the right stuff, ( the women at the alteration store pointed out that my ASU was not only the wrong size but I had grabbed the wrong jacket). I highly recommend seeking their counsel when buying your uniforms.
3. Don't bother going to any Post or Base until you are in the DEER system, unless you want to get an invalid commissioning, (wouldn't have gotten on post without it ironically enough) and spend a good many hours trying to explain why you don't/can't get your military ID.
4. Most importantly, those uniforms are WICKED SWEET! Heck it might be worth joining the Army just to be able to wear an ASU at parties, (a HUGE hit with the ladies I imagine😀
Quick question for anybody who's been to OBC: do they drug-test you at some point while you're there? I need to know because with finals coming up, I might feel the need to pop a Vyvanse here and there, but I don't want to jeopardize my military career right at the beginning! Also, do they even test for these sorts of things? I imagine they would test for pot and such, but not sure if they test for amphetamines and the like. Thanks!
Quick question for anybody who's been to OBC: do they drug-test you at some point while you're there? I need to know because with finals coming up, I might feel the need to pop a Vyvanse here and there, but I don't want to jeopardize my military career right at the beginning! Also, do they even test for these sorts of things? I imagine they would test for pot and such, but not sure if they test for amphetamines and the like. Thanks!
Good information to know for all premeds.In short, yes, you will be tested, probably the first day, and then randomly for the remainder of your time in the military. And yes, the military tests for marijuana, cocaine, and amphetamines every time since those are the most commonly abused drugs. Other drugs are randomly screened for or can be requested by your commander (steroids in particular).
In short, yes, you will be tested, probably the first day, and then randomly for the remainder of your time in the military. And yes, the military tests for marijuana, cocaine, and amphetamines every time since those are the most commonly abused drugs. Other drugs are randomly screened for or can be requested by your commander (steroids in particular).
The drug policy in the AF at least is so restrictive it's almost ridiculous. A guy in my unit took one of his wife's percocets when he hurt his ankle, thinking he'd tough it out till he saw the Flight Doc on Monday. He was randomly tested that day, and lost a stripe over it. I've also been to 0600 Saturday unit-wide piss test sessions to bust Ecstasy users. Great fun, especially when you're on the "observer" end. Anything that doesn't come from YOUR doctor or OTC can result in disciplinary action. Not sure how long Vyvanse can be detected, but I wouldn't risk it.
I'm trying to be patient and not harass the admissions people right now, esp since they said I won't hear anything until May 15th, so I hope someone on here can shed some light...
I received a letter a couple days ago stating "You are currently on the waiting list for a place in the Uniformed services..." next paragraph clarifying "Placement on the waiting list is different from selection as an alternate." ok, I get all this... later in the letter it says I still have to get something in for my physical etc. So.. here's my question: I thought they couldn't do anything with my application until I had all my forms for my physical in and had qualified (that's the impression they gave me at the interview)... so am I actually on the waitlist or is this more like the "we're waiting-- you have to get your forms in before we even look at your application again seriously" list? I guess in the end it doesn't matter until May 15th.. at that point, they told us, there will actually be movement on the waiting lists, but not much before then. I just hope that if I get in, I find out before the officer trainings. I'm a non-prior and feel like I will be lost if I have to show up straight to USUHS...
thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this (or just give me some hope), and I hope to see some of you in Bethesda next year...
Ok, so first of all waitlist is better than alternate list in case you didn't know that.
If I understand what you're asking, then you're slightly incorrect - you can be accepted before you're physically qualified through DoDMERB. I got my unconditional acceptance a good 5 months before my conditional acceptance because of some remedials I had to complete.
Getting the unconditional acceptance basically says "we've accepted that you're a good student and can handle our school so long as you're medically qualified through DoDMERB." They can rescind your acceptance if they disqualify you and do not accept your waiver - it happened to the sponsoree I was assigned last December, and now I'm waiting for them to accept someone else to get a new sponsoree.
They don't look at whether you're physically qualified when making a decision to accept you.
Oh, and several people every year don't go to officer training because they were accepted too late - it's not a big deal, you'll do an abridged version later, and your sponsor can help you with how to wear your uniform so you don't look like a complete idiot 😛
Just out of curiosity, was your waitlist letter dated before or after April 15th? I know that when I interviewed (the last day) they told us to hurry and get our physicals completed because they can't offer conditional acceptances (or waitlists) after April 15th.I'm trying to be patient and not harass the admissions people right now, esp since they said I won't hear anything until May 15th, so I hope someone on here can shed some light...
I received a letter a couple days ago stating "You are currently on the waiting list for a place in the Uniformed services..." next paragraph clarifying "Placement on the waiting list is different from selection as an alternate." ok, I get all this... later in the letter it says I still have to get something in for my physical etc. So.. here's my question: I thought they couldn't do anything with my application until I had all my forms for my physical in and had qualified (that's the impression they gave me at the interview)... so am I actually on the waitlist or is this more like the "we're waiting-- you have to get your forms in before we even look at your application again seriously" list? I guess in the end it doesn't matter until May 15th.. at that point, they told us, there will actually be movement on the waiting lists, but not much before then. I just hope that if I get in, I find out before the officer trainings. I'm a non-prior and feel like I will be lost if I have to show up straight to USUHS...
thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this (or just give me some hope), and I hope to see some of you in Bethesda next year...
Just out of curiosity, was your waitlist letter dated before or after April 15th? I know that when I interviewed (the last day) they told us to hurry and get our physicals completed because they can't offer conditional acceptances (or waitlists) after April 15th.
This sponsor you speak of...am I supposed to have one? I remember an MS1 calling me earlier this year to ask if I had any questions, but I don't remember who he was.
Just out of curiosity, was your waitlist letter dated before or after April 15th? I know that when I interviewed (the last day) they told us to hurry and get our physicals completed because they can't offer conditional acceptances (or waitlists) after April 15th.
Quick question for USUHS Army folk. The camel back they have on the "buy for OBLC" list, there are 2 major kinds we can buy, the smaller 3L variety and the big backpack that holds 3L as well.
In the context of field training which is better to own? Is the bigger backpack useful for lugging field gear? Or is the larger pack just a hinderance since they make you use one of their packs, in which case the smaller camelback, (which seems to be able to go over a bigger pack) is better?
I overheard some Army guys talking over at Ft. McCoy about camelbacks and one said that the bigger packs could make awesome backpacks for school and his friend seemed to agree that bigger was better.
Anyone who has done OBLC care to give their two cents?
Sorry for the stupid question, but for our ACU name tapes and ASU name plates do we put our full name or just last name?
For those who have been to OBLC...do we really need two pairs of boots?
Also did anyone get their ASU yet?
1. I thought the official date to hold 1 spot at a school was April 15th. I'm relieved now that I know it's May 15th because there is still hope!
2. It's been past the 10 weeks that we're supposed to hear back about our acceptance on a waitlist. Should I contact the admissions office or keep running home everyday to check the mail?
3. FYI When I interviewed mid-Feb. it was stressed that that those who have their DoDMerb/physical paperwork in will be accepted off of the waitlist before those who did. So if you're sitting higher up on the waitlist, but do not have all of your paperwork completed, someone below you may receive conditional acceptance instead.
4. I hope I get in.![]()
To anyone who has done partial DITY:
1. The partial DITY payment is instead of the regular TDY POV payment correct? Or do you get both?
2. Will the travel office on our nearest post mail the forms we need to fill out or do we need to pick them up in person?
3. Can you give us an idea of the what uncle sam pays in terms of $/lb and or $/mile? If you have done DITY could you let us know how much stuff you took and how far and how much they paid you for it?
4. Do they allow personal workout equipment, such as those involved with weight training, ie dumbells, kettlebells, ect? (I am taking my 3 kettlebells with me regardless but I would love for Uncle Sam to pay me for all 167 lbs of weight🙂
Thanks for any info you can share.
To anyone who has done partial DITY:
1. The partial DITY payment is instead of the regular TDY POV payment correct? Or do you get both?
2. Will the travel office on our nearest post mail the forms we need to fill out or do we need to pick them up in person?
3. Can you give us an idea of the what uncle sam pays in terms of $/lb and or $/mile? If you have done DITY could you let us know how much stuff you took and how far and how much they paid you for it?
4. Do they allow personal workout equipment, such as those involved with weight training, ie dumbells, kettlebells, ect? (I am taking my 3 kettlebells with me regardless but I would love for Uncle Sam to pay me for all 167 lbs of weight🙂
Thanks for any info you can share.
I interviewed mid-Feb too-- prob was on the same inteview as you... I got a letter in the mail dated April 15th saying I was on the waitlist. However, when I called (to check about them updating my status to qualified medically) they didn't even attempt to look up my file to check and see if it had been properly updated. not sure if you'll have any more luck than me by calling next week, but I have a feeling you'll hear from your mailbox before you get info from a phone call at this moment. They stressed that they won't know anything until May 15th (frankly, I think she just didn't want to deal with anyone on this beautiful Friday🙂)