2009-2010 Wayne State Application Thread

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Hmmmmm...that doesn't add up.

I'm pretty sure Wayne only gives 300 acceptances, someone ask when they call next time!

If it's ~500 then that means 200 got off the list?

Maybe 70 people who got off the list actually matriculated? Maybe 200 got pulled but a lot of people withdrew?


:shrug:

Not sure about this but they may aim to fill up the 300 spots by giving out more than 300 acceptances. So the class might be full right now with some people who may drop once they get off waitlists somewhere else.
 
Not sure about this but they may aim to fill up the 300 spots by giving out more than 300 acceptances. So the class might be full right now with some people who may drop once they get off waitlists somewhere else.

I do know for a fact that wayne only gives out 290 acceptances at once...
 
I do know for a fact that wayne only gives out 290 acceptances at once...

Just wondering how you know this, it's not that I believe you but I'm just curious.

The waitlist didn't start moving until 5/18 last year so this is definitely a good sign that people are already starting to move along 👍
 
I'm going to comment here. I read this thread everyday, and when I read the posts by you guys (specifically Losar, Ivlcurst (sp), Hopeful) I go through a wide range of emotions depending on the day. Yesterday I felt very hopeful, due to people being taken off, and looking at stats. Today i feel disparaged, a morose aura has overcome with the fear that all acceptances have been given out. Just wanted to add this in there, thought it would be comical to say the least. Not a negative, i'm just as anxious as you guys, and its nice to read this stuff once in a while (once or twice a day!)
 
I'm going to comment here. I read this thread everyday, and when I read the posts by you guys (specifically Losar, Ivlcurst (sp), Hopeful) I go through a wide range of emotions depending on the day. Yesterday I felt very hopeful, due to people being taken off, and looking at stats. Today i feel disparaged, a morose aura has overcome with the fear that all acceptances have been given out. Just wanted to add this in there, thought it would be comical to say the least. Not a negative, i'm just as anxious as you guys, and its nice to read this stuff once in a while (once or twice a day!)

Well I'm glad you are on the emotional rollercoaster with us. I think this is the case in most threads where the school doesn't let us know our ranks.

I mean my emotions don't change very much in real life. I tell myself that I can feel whatever but it's not going to help me get off the list or tell me what my chances are.

We just like to speculate because well...it's better than sitting at home being bored. This thread actually isn't that bad, I think the Meharry one is way worse since we have like 10 people getting 10 conflicting answers from admissions. That is driving everyone crazy.

Don't let forums get you up or down, it's not worth it! Take it with a grain of salt and just relax...you'll be fine!
 
Well I'm glad you are on the emotional rollercoaster with us. I think this is the case in most threads where the school doesn't let us know our ranks.

I mean my emotions don't change very much in real life. I tell myself that I can feel whatever but it's not going to help me get off the list or tell me what my chances are.

We just like to speculate because well...it's better than sitting at home being bored. This thread actually isn't that bad, I think the Meharry one is way worse since we have like 10 people getting 10 conflicting answers from admissions. That is driving everyone crazy.

Don't let forums get you up or down, it's not worth it! Take it with a grain of salt and just relax...you'll be fine!

Yeah, I think I'm here for the same reason. Speculating, even though it has no effect on our situation, allows me to stay involved in it somehow. And I think it keeps my hopes and fears in check in a way: if I hope too much, it keeps me on the ground, and if I lose too much hope, the possibilities brought on by speculation encourage me.🙂
 
Yeah, I think I'm here for the same reason. Speculating, even though it has no effect on our situation, allows me to stay involved in it somehow. And I think it keeps my hopes and fears in check in a way: if I hope too much, it keeps me on the ground, and if I lose too much hope, the possibilities brought on by speculation encourage me.🙂

I feel the same way! 😳
 
Just wondering how you know this, it's not that I believe you but I'm just curious.

The waitlist didn't start moving until 5/18 last year so this is definitely a good sign that people are already starting to move along 👍



From last years thread, it looks like they started moving the waitlist a few days before that. And one thing we have to keep in mind is the growing number of applicants that join SDN each year. So last year while only one person posted that they got accepted on like may 14th, there may have been more. Didn't last years thread only get to like page 14 or 18 or something. We'll double that this year. Lol

I'm surprised by the number of people they rejected.
 
Rejected post-interview/post-May 5th, or just in general?

Post May 5th I'm sure. I'm also surprised at how many people got rejected, but I'm happy they did it instead of holding everyone on the waitlist with false hope.
 
I called the office of admissions today. They wouldn't tell me anything about the waitlist except that it was cut to about a 100 people last week and that offers will be given out right up until orientation (or when the class is filled).

So anyone still on the waitlist today, you're in the final 100. And that's about it. The rest is out of your control.

Good luck everyone.
 
I called the office of admissions today. They wouldn't tell me anything about the waitlist except that it was cut to about a 100 people last week and that offers will be given out right up until orientation (or when the class is filled).

So anyone still on the waitlist today, you're in the final 100. And that's about it. The rest is out of your control.

Good luck everyone.

Holy conflicting information Batman!
Are you sure they didn't say they cut the bottom 100 people?
 
Holy conflicting information Batman!
Are you sure they didn't say they cut the bottom 100 people?

No I think that is what he meant! But I don't think he meant to say there are 100 people on the final list!
 
Holy conflicting information Batman!
Are you sure they didn't say they cut the bottom 100 people?

Holy moly guacamole 😱!!! If there are really 100 people left on the wailist that would be fantastic, but I think they CUT the bottom 100 people. I hope I'm wrong!
 
I called the office of admissions today. They wouldn't tell me anything about the waitlist except that it was cut to about a 100 people last week and that offers will be given out right up until orientation (or when the class is filled).

So anyone still on the waitlist today, you're in the final 100. And that's about it. The rest is out of your control.

Good luck everyone.

this would be awesome if i could get myself to believe it. numerically, doesn't seem to make much sense though. if historically they accepted 0-100 off the waitlist, it would make sense to have 200 people on it so there's no chance of underaccepting. hope you're right though!
 
this would be awesome if i could get myself to believe it. numerically, doesn't seem to make much sense though. if historically they accepted 0-100 off the waitlist, it would make sense to have 200 people on it so there's no chance of underaccepting. hope you're right though!

I have the same reasoning. If that is true, it's almost scarier to me to have a smaller list, since that would mean they'd expect to be pulling less people off the list this year.
 
this would be awesome if i could get myself to believe it. numerically, doesn't seem to make much sense though. if historically they accepted 0-100 off the waitlist, it would make sense to have 200 people on it so there's no chance of underaccepting. hope you're right though!

I think someone should call to confirm this.
 
Everyone chill out....someone above called recently and was told there were 200+ on the list.

As my first prescription as a soon-to-be-doctor, I think everyone needs to go drink a beer tonight 👍
 
Yea, I highly doubt there are only 100 of us on the list considering when 10 of us on SDN have been pingponging this around in the past few hours. if there are 10 of us here, there are probably 200 out there.
 
Everyone chill out....someone above called recently and was told there were 200+ on the list.

As my first prescription as a soon-to-be-doctor, I think everyone needs to go drink a beer tonight 👍

Thanks Doc 😉
 
does a letter of interest help at this point to get off the waitlist?
 
does a letter of interest help at this point to get off the waitlist?

You should call and ask. But previous posters on this thread have said that the waitlist is ranked firmly now and letters may not help you get picked. A letter definitely won't hurt your chances so if you have something to update them on by all means do it.
 
does a letter of interest help at this point to get off the waitlist?

it will not affect/change your current score, but if there are 10 people with the same score rank as you and they can only pick 5, that's when the letter of interest will help. at least, that is what admissions told me.
 
it will not affect/change your current score, but if there are 10 people with the same score rank as you and they can only pick 5, that's when the letter of interest will help. at least, that is what admissions told me.

I second what zigzag said. That's pretty much what they told me. It's a matter of numbers from now on except for cases of applicants having the same numbers. Then the applications are looked at more closely, especially personal responses (PS, essays, LOI).
 
sigh, bad WL at University of Western Ontario. Down to Wayne State only now. Being an Ontario resident sucks.
 
sigh, bad WL at University of Western Ontario. Down to Wayne State only now. Being an Ontario resident sucks.

exact same boat, waitlisted at western as well 🙁 on the email it said that there would be veery little chance with my ranking on the waitlist to get an acceptance. I guess its a nice way of saying im rejected. Its wayne state all the way
 
exact same boat, waitlisted at western as well 🙁 on the email it said that there would be veery little chance with my ranking on the waitlist to get an acceptance. I guess its a nice way of saying im rejected. Its wayne state all the way

Here's hoping a few of the cdns that got in here also got into a Canadian school. I don't know if the waitlists here are different for IS/OOS.

This is my 3rd year applying, 25 applications over 3 years, 22 rejections, got all 3 of my interviews during this cycle. Rejected post-interview from Memorial, WL at Wayne State and pretty much rejected at UWO. I was really hoping for more interviews at US Schools. I can't cope with the thought of actually having to go to the Caribbean with a 3.95 and 35Q (3rd try).
 
Here's hoping a few of the cdns that got in here also got into a Canadian school. I don't know if the waitlists here are different for IS/OOS.

This is my 3rd year applying, 25 applications over 3 years, 22 rejections, got all 3 of my interviews during this cycle. Rejected post-interview from Memorial, WL at Wayne State and pretty much rejected at UWO. I was really hoping for more interviews at US Schools. I can't cope with the thought of actually having to go to the Caribbean with a 3.95 and 35Q (3rd try).

I'm surprised at that result. 3.95/35 should get you in somewhere in the states. How was your school selection? Sometimes people with excellent stats only apply to only top tier schools and then get shafted. Did you apply to mid/low tier schools besides Wayne?
 
I'm surprised at that result. 3.95/35 should get you in somewhere in the states. How was your school selection? Sometimes people with excellent stats only apply to only top tier schools and then get shafted. Did you apply to mid/low tier schools besides Wayne?

I applied to WSU/RFU/Jefferson/SUNY Upstate/NYU/Sinai/Dartmouth (albany/MSU as well but didn't complete secondaries). I don't really care about school rankings. I thought i made pretty decent choices, was complete at most schools by mid/late august.
 
Here's hoping a few of the cdns that got in here also got into a Canadian school. I don't know if the waitlists here are different for IS/OOS.

This is my 3rd year applying, 25 applications over 3 years, 22 rejections, got all 3 of my interviews during this cycle. Rejected post-interview from Memorial, WL at Wayne State and pretty much rejected at UWO. I was really hoping for more interviews at US Schools. I can't cope with the thought of actually having to go to the Caribbean with a 3.95 and 35Q (3rd try).

Wow...I too am very surprised with that outcome. Almost to the point on disbelief.
 
Here's hoping a few of the cdns that got in here also got into a Canadian school. I don't know if the waitlists here are different for IS/OOS.

This is my 3rd year applying, 25 applications over 3 years, 22 rejections, got all 3 of my interviews during this cycle. Rejected post-interview from Memorial, WL at Wayne State and pretty much rejected at UWO. I was really hoping for more interviews at US Schools. I can't cope with the thought of actually having to go to the Caribbean with a 3.95 and 35Q (3rd try).

Are you a Canadian resident?
 
I applied to WSU/RFU/Jefferson/SUNY Upstate/NYU/Sinai/Dartmouth (albany/MSU as well but didn't complete secondaries). I don't really care about school rankings. I thought i made pretty decent choices, was complete at most schools by mid/late august.

Those are good choices. I don't know why they wouldn't interview you. I guess you should boost your non-academic credentials as well as your references. Something must have stood out as a red flag. If you can get feedback from schools that rejected you, you will know exactly what you need to work on. It would be terrible if someone with those stats had to settle for carribbean schools.
 
Are you a Canadian resident?

yea, ontario.

Those are good choices. I don't know why they wouldn't interview you. I guess you should boost your non-academic credentials as well as your references. Something must have stood out as a red flag. If you can get feedback from schools that rejected you, you will know exactly what you need to work on. It would be terrible if someone with those stats had to settle for carribbean schools.

I'd say my non-academic stuff is average but wouldn't think it would cause any problems. Don't have any research xp but pretty good clinical and extra-curriculars. I think my prof references could've been better though. Besides that, don't know what else could have been better. I got my PS reviewed by quite a few helpful people on this board.

Although I was hoping for more interviews, I did manage to get three but I guess my interviewing skills just suck.

Thanks for the advice with regards to feedback, but I really don't think I can apply for a 4th time.
 
I'd say my non-academic stuff is average but wouldn't think it would cause any problems. Don't have any research xp but pretty good clinical and extra-curriculars. I think my prof references could've been better though. Besides that, don't know what else could have been better. I got my PS reviewed by quite a few helpful people on this board.

Although I was hoping for more interviews, I did manage to get three but I guess my interviewing skills just suck.

Thanks for the advice with regards to feedback, but I really don't think I can apply for a 4th time.

Don't give up buju. If you're on the Wayne waitlist then they obviously liked something about your app. If you don't get in, ask them what you can improve and reapply. They look kindly upon reapplicants. I hope you get accepted this year though.
 
what was your science GPA and your AMCAS GPA, I talked to Dean of Admission last year, he told me they look primary on Science GPA and MCAT, Your MCAT is great though, but if you have a great Science GPA , I think you should talk to dean of admission and ask him,

I am Canadian as well , average stat but I was medical student in my country for two years and I am on wait list, I hope I get off wait list soon, Both my interviewer and Dean told me in my interview that I have a good chance but here I am on wait list, loll , hopefully we all get off the list .







yea, ontario.



I'd say my non-academic stuff is average but wouldn't think it would cause any problems. Don't have any research xp but pretty good clinical and extra-curriculars. I think my prof references could've been better though. Besides that, don't know what else could have been better. I got my PS reviewed by quite a few helpful people on this board.

Although I was hoping for more interviews, I did manage to get three but I guess my interviewing skills just suck.

Thanks for the advice with regards to feedback, but I really don't think I can apply for a 4th time.
 
i don't like to post on SDN much anymore, but i want u guys to hang in there.. and i dont know if this helps but i was accepted off the waitlist today. got a phone call, no email.
 
I think its safe to say that they'll pull people off the waitlist any day of the week, instead of the previously stated Monday. But I'm sure we can expect a decent amount of people pulled off this Monday
 
i don't like to post on SDN much anymore, but i want u guys to hang in there.. and i dont know if this helps but i was accepted off the waitlist today. got a phone call, no email.

Congrats! Thanks for posting, it's good to hear that people are getting off the list.
 
sigh, bad WL at University of Western Ontario. Down to Wayne State only now. Being an Ontario resident sucks.

Respect from a fellow Ontarian. Hang in there. Rejected from Toronto, waitlist @ Queens. You and I will be partying it up it Motor City. Have faith.
 
Hey guys, fellow Ontarian here. I'm also waitlisted, I have 3.6 GPA 37R (third retake, 1st time was 34O, second 33P). Does anyone know if they take your most recent mcat or they average them? I've been on the waitlist on Ontario before and I hate it. It sucks to be waiting again.
 
I've been WL since November. Anyone in the same boat??
 
It looks like there are a good 15-20 of us here. I know just by saying this, I'm jinxing myself, but what will you do throughout the next year if you don't get in?
 
It looks like there are a good 15-20 of us here. I know just by saying this, I'm jinxing myself, but what will you do throughout the next year if you don't get in?
work/look to get back to school and improve marks/get better references/reapply
 
work/look to get back to school and improve marks/get better references/reapply

Just a heads up...I was a mostly non-science major in undergrad, and did most of my science post-bacc. Pretty much what people told me (adcoms, friends who work in admissions office, interviewers etc.) is "nobody cares about post-bacc GPA, those are always inflated. It's undergrad that's important."

Here's the thing, my post-bacc was very competitive. It was harder to get an A in this program than it was in a hard science class @ UMich. Mostly everyone had at least an undergrad degree from a top tier Univ, some had PhDs, Masters in related subject matter. Some were world class athletes, some had already taken all the premed classes once and just wanted to get better grades...whatever...the point is everyone seemed to take the classes seriously except for med school adcoms. There were no 19 year old goof balls that gave you a nice cushion, or a 5% bump on your score. It was tough, but in the end no one seemed to respect it.

Anyway, I like the getting better recs, but be careful about post-grad classes. Maybe, just a thought, but getting better grades and getting a better MCAT (the great equalizer) would be a more convincing argument for an academic improvement.

Obviously I don't have any answers, adcoms can be a little fickle at times. But just a piece of advice from my experience.
 
Just a heads up...I was a mostly non-science major in undergrad, and did most of my science post-bacc. Pretty much what people told me (adcoms, friends who work in admissions office, interviewers etc.) is "nobody cares about post-bacc GPA, those are always inflated. It's undergrad that's important."

Here's the thing, my post-bacc was very competitive. It was harder to get an A in this program than it was in a hard science class @ UMich. Mostly everyone had at least an undergrad degree from a top tier Univ, some had PhDs, Masters in related subject matter. Some were world class athletes, some had already taken all the premed classes once and just wanted to get better grades...whatever...the point is everyone seemed to take the classes seriously except for med school adcoms. There were no 19 year old goof balls that gave you a nice cushion, or a 5% bump on your score. It was tough, but in the end no one seemed to respect it.

Anyway, I like the getting better recs, but be careful about post-grad classes. Maybe, just a thought, but getting better grades and getting a better MCAT (the great equalizer) would be a more convincing argument for an academic improvement.

Obviously I don't have any answers, adcoms can be a little fickle at times. But just a piece of advice from my experience.

Thanks for that. What about a second bachelor's degree then?
 
Just a heads up...I was a mostly non-science major in undergrad, and did most of my science post-bacc. Pretty much what people told me (adcoms, friends who work in admissions office, interviewers etc.) is "nobody cares about post-bacc GPA, those are always inflated. It's undergrad that's important."

Here's the thing, my post-bacc was very competitive. It was harder to get an A in this program than it was in a hard science class @ UMich. Mostly everyone had at least an undergrad degree from a top tier Univ, some had PhDs, Masters in related subject matter. Some were world class athletes, some had already taken all the premed classes once and just wanted to get better grades...whatever...the point is everyone seemed to take the classes seriously except for med school adcoms. There were no 19 year old goof balls that gave you a nice cushion, or a 5% bump on your score. It was tough, but in the end no one seemed to respect it.

Anyway, I like the getting better recs, but be careful about post-grad classes. Maybe, just a thought, but getting better grades and getting a better MCAT (the great equalizer) would be a more convincing argument for an academic improvement.

Obviously I don't have any answers, adcoms can be a little fickle at times. But just a piece of advice from my experience.

at least for wayne, the self assessment guide clearly states that if you have a subpar undergrad gpa and have at least 20 units of postbac/grad work in sciences, they will use that as the science gpa.
 
Thanks for that. What about a second bachelor's degree then?

You're very welcome...I know how arduous this process is, and if I can save anyone some time I'm happy to.

As far as post-bacc, not saying don't do it...just be pragmatic about it and do a lot of research, see what the success rate of the program is, how much academic advising is available (this is really important for non-trad applicants), etc.

Second bachelors sounds like a lot of work, but I don't know anyone who's done it.

Seems like retaking the MCATs and working in a lab or as a medical assistant would be take less time. It really helps with gaining a more fluid understanding of science. Also, don't know how true this is, but people constantly tell me a req from a professor of medicine carries a lot of weight.

The one down side to labs to consider is that it takes up a lot of your day/energy and it's very hard to study for the MCATs and do lab work. That's important to consider, because I think scores are the key to opening the door to work/activities/reqs mattering.

Just to be realistic...I'm also stuck in premed purgatory so I have talk...but again, no answers.
 
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