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Accepted off the waitlist today after W in October, will be declining admission--good luck everyone!
Accepted off the waitlist today after W in October, will be declining admission--good luck everyone!
I'm a class of 2024 M4, and I come on SDN a few times a week.Any current students I can PM? I have some questions
I don't see a Facebook group for the 2027 class but see one for the class of 2026. Guess the 2027 class group has not been made yet.
If you don't mind me asking, how long were you on the WL for?Also go the A a couple of minutes ago! Might decline though, best of luck to the rest who are waiting.
Was waitlisted in like November, so a couple of months I guess.If you don't mind me asking, how long were you on the WL for?
Current M2 here. During M1, you have faculty written exams and one NBME exam. For us, we had Exam 1 (15%), Exam 2 (20%), Exam 3 (30%), NBME (15%), Gross Anatomy Practical (15%), and participation (5%). These were held during weeks 3, 6, and 11 (exam 3, NBME, and GA practical were all during the final week of the block). All of these exams, besides the NBME exam, are faculty authored. Exam 2 has material from Exam 1, Exam 3 has material from Exam 2, and NBME is cumulative from the whole block. This all applies to your Human Bodies Foundation Course, which is the main course you take throughout M1. You need a 70% overall in order to pass each block. During M2, you only have 3 NBME exams & participation (5%) that make up your grade.I remember hearing during interview day that preclinical grades are solely determined by NBME exams, can someone confirm this? I was looking at the M1 exam schedule and there's cumulative and final exams on top of NBMEs.
Can you tell me how you feel about faculty exams? How would you compare that to MSU's setup? Also, do you feel like Wayne has a rigorous anatomy block? with dissections or prosections? and does that affect your learning, especially if you're interested in surgery.Current M2 here. During M1, you have faculty written exams and one NBME exam. For us, we had Exam 1 (15%), Exam 2 (20%), Exam 3 (30%), NBME (15%), Gross Anatomy Practical (15%), and participation (5%). These were held during weeks 3, 6, and 11 (exam 3, NBME, and GA practical were all during the final week of the block). All of these exams, besides the NBME exam, are faculty authored. Exam 2 has material from Exam 1, Exam 3 has material from Exam 2, and NBME is cumulative from the whole block. This all applies to your Human Bodies Foundation Course, which is the main course you take throughout M1. You need a 70% overall in order to pass each block. During M2, you only have 3 NBME exams & participation (5%) that make up your grade.
pain.Looks like they’re focusing on adding more OOS students at this point. Fellow IS WL applicants… it’s not looking good :/
My hope is quickly diminishing 🙁Looks like they’re focusing on adding more OOS students at this point. Fellow IS WL applicants… it’s not looking good :/
I am not too familiar with MSU's setup, but I can tell you about my experience here. The faculty authored exams were fair. I never felt like I was being tricked with an exam questions. It was moreso do I know the material or do I not, but the lectures do provide you with all the information you need for the exams. You also get weekly formative quizzes (they aren't graded and totally optional) that accurately represent the exam questions in terms of content, difficulty, and format. There is also a review day were each faulty holds an 1-1.5 hour long review session the Monday of the week of your exam and they provide additional practice questions there and highlight topics they are most likely to test on.Can you tell me how you feel about faculty exams? How would you compare that to MSU's setup? Also, do you feel like Wayne has a rigorous anatomy block? with dissections or prosections? and does that affect your learning, especially if you're interested in surgery.
As an M4 who had to do half of my anatomy lab virtually I second this. There is a big difference between seeing the 3D anatomical relations in person on a cadaver and just memorizing pictures. I feel like I have a stronger mastery of the anatomy I learned in the anatomy lab compared to what I learned in the virtual labI am not too familiar with MSU's setup, but I can tell you about my experience here. The faculty authored exams were fair. I never felt like I was being tricked with an exam questions. It was moreso do I know the material or do I not, but the lectures do provide you with all the information you need for the exams. You also get weekly formative quizzes (they aren't graded and totally optional) that accurately represent the exam questions in terms of content, difficulty, and format. There is also a review day were each faulty holds an 1-1.5 hour long review session the Monday of the week of your exam and they provide additional practice questions there and highlight topics they are most likely to test on.
You have Gross Anatomy for the entire year, but block one is MSK. So you are learning the majority of the major muscles, innervations, actions, etc. during block one and then you'll start learning the same material for the organ-based systems during blocks 2 and 3. It is a fully hands-on dissection. You will have a couple prosections in the center of the room for you to reference and there is a prosected cadaver, but each group of 6 students has their own cadaver that they will be working with for the whole year. I will admit that sometimes I was frustrated during the dissections just because I didn't fully know the material at that point, so it made the dissection a little more difficult. HOWEVER, looking back on it now, especially because I have shadowed a lot in the surgical specialty that I am interested in, GA was incredibly valuable. I could not image going into a surgical speciality or even just my surgery clinical rotation during third year without anatomy lab (specifically a dissection anatomy lab) because you learn so many skills and it is so different to learn by seeing the actual muscles, tissues, organs, etc. on an actual cadaver vs. from Anki prosection cards or from a textbook
Try to not fall behind on lectures! That's my biggest tip and it's definitely easier said than done. You do get the weekend+2 full days of no school activities to study before an exam, but don't let lectures pile up with the mentality of "oh I can catch up then." Also try to not overload yourself with resources. Find 2-3 resources the work best for you and stick with those even if you see your peers using different ones, unless you want to test a new one out, then just add one at a time. It'll do more harm to your studying if you are testing out 10 different resources vs. just using 2-3. Also try to prepare for required activities. So review your histology lecture before histo lab, review the appropriate anatomy lecturs before anatomy lab. Doing this will help you get the most out of these active learning sessions. Also never be afraid to reach out to your M2 mentor or the near peer tutors through the office of learning and teaching. We are literally there to help you and answer whatever questions you may have. If you work well with a group or need a group to keep you accountable, find a group of friends that need the same. Early on in the block, make your own schedule. I personally would try to give myself one free day a week, but this meant that I had to do a 1-2 extra lectures per day in order to give myself that flexibility. The biggest thing is to at least keep up with the suggested schedule that is posted for you. Also please please PLEASE take time for yourself. You do not want to burn yourself out early on in med school. Your mental health is just as important as your grades because you cannot achieve excellent grades and a good understanding of the material if you are constantly exhausted (mentally and/or physically).Any current students who wouldn’t mind giving advice on how to study/keep up with everything in year 1?
We do! There are also plenty of hospital systems that students can rotate at that are near campus besides Detroit Medical Center (the main hospital and residency program affiliated with WSU). The other nearby programs include Henry Ford, Beaumont, Ascension St. John, McLaren, and probably more that I just can't think of right nowdoes this school have home residencies? i was under the impression that it did but someone on the x vs y forum said it doesn’t…
I'm a rising M1 and looking for housing - does anyone know places students typically live or places I can look that can fit a budget of below $1000/month?
I believe Wayne State has you purchase a parking pass for a ridiculous price per semester. At least, that's what it's like for their undergrads. I'm not sure if it's the same for graduate studentsI found this link: Detroit - Your new home
I've also been looking at places on Apartments.com: Apartments for Rent Near Wayne State University - Detroit, MI Student Housing | Apartments.com
Does anyone know if there is adequate parking on campus? I'm not sure if I should get an apartment that is a walkable distance from campus, or if I can live somewhere slightly farther away and drive every day.
So parking is like $222 for 3 months I believe OR you use your OneCard and you pay $4 every time you park in the lot across for campus. I personally do the $4 option because I really only come to campus for required activities (2-3, sometimes 4 times a week). IMO, the $222 is really only worth it if you utilize the school gym (bc you park in a different lot there) and if you are planning on leaving campus in between required events if you have two in a day (you are charged for each time you enter the lot). Since last July, I don't think I've spent over $300 on parking, which isn't even two of the $222 passes. So yeah it sucks to pay to park, but at least there's a cheaper option for those who don't plan on coming to campus daily or multiple times a day.I believe Wayne State has you purchase a parking pass for a ridiculous price per semester. At least, that's what it's like for their undergrads. I'm not sure if it's the same for graduate students
To answer your question specifically about driving in, I would say the majority of students drive in even if it is just a 5 minute drive because walking would take a lot longer. You could definitely walk if you are in some of the apartments really close to campus, but many drive (especially in the winter). I personally live about 30 minutes from campus and drive in whenever I'm required to. It can sometimes suck, but it is definitely doable, especially if you are only like 10-20 minutes away!I found this link: Detroit - Your new home
I've also been looking at places on Apartments.com: Apartments for Rent Near Wayne State University - Detroit, MI Student Housing | Apartments.com
Does anyone know if there is adequate parking on campus? I'm not sure if I should get an apartment that is a walkable distance from campus, or if I can live somewhere slightly farther away and drive every day.
Received an A this morning off the WL! I will not be accepting, I hope it goes to one of yall! 🙂
WL on Feb 6When did you get waitlisted if you don’t mind me asking?
Are you IS or OOS if you don’t mind me asking?Received an A this morning off the WL! I will not be accepting, I hope it goes to one of yall! 🙂
OOSAre you IS or OOS if you don’t mind me asking?
Current M4 here, you will most definitely need a car as an M3. Regardless of which hospital you do your core rotations at, you will have to do something at a satellite clinic/hospital (IE students rotating at St John do their family medicine rotation at a clinic that is a 10-15 minute drive away, and students at Henry Ford might have to go to Henry Ford Wyandotte for part of their OB/GYN rotation).Any current medication student lurking right now that I can ask questions to? I don’t drive and I heard that it’s gonna be hard to travel to hospitals during clinical rotations if one doesn’t drive, any advice for this type of situation cause I’ve been stressing over this?
For students who don’t drive what options do they pursue? Cause idk if I can afford a car or take driving lessons at this time…Current M4 here, you will most definitely need a car as an M3. Regardless of which hospital you do your core rotations at, you will have to do something at a satellite clinic/hospital (IE students rotating at St John do their family medicine rotation at a clinic that is a 10-15 minute drive away, and students at Henry Ford might have to go to Henry Ford Wyandotte for part of their OB/GYN rotation).
Also, during some of your rotations you will have to be at the hospital very early in the morning, and on some you might get off very late.
Detroit public transit is not the greatest and I would not recommend relying on it.
Doesn’t clerkship start the second half of year 2?Not to be too blunt but this is the Midwest. You need to drive M3. You have two years to figure something out before then.
Clerkships for the incoming class would start in March/April of 2025 (If I am mathing correctly lol), but you will have a clinical placement that you will need to go to 1-2x a month during M2. This could be at DMC (aka you could easily walk there), but I feel like the majority of students are placed at smaller clinics or branches that essentially require you to drive there. You could get away with just using Uber or Lyft during M2, but that will add up very quickly during M3Doesn’t clerkship start the second half of year 2?
How about during M4?Clerkships for the incoming class would start in March/April of 2025 (If I am mathing correctly lol), but you will have a clinical placement that you will need to go to 1-2x a month during M2. This could be at DMC (aka you could easily walk there), but I feel like the majority of students are placed at smaller clinics or branches that essentially require you to drive there. You could get away with just using Uber or Lyft during M2, but that will add up very quickly during M3
I am only an M2, so I can't really speak from personal experience regarding M4. I'm pretty sure you will have elective rotations, audition rotations, and maybe some more during M4, but I think it would be better if an M4 answers thisHow about during M4?
It all depends on where you are and what you want to do. If you’re planning on going into something like IM you could probably get by without a car as long as you lived near DMC or Henry Ford. If you’re interested in some of the more specialized fields (like anesthesia) or fields where rotation spots can be tight (OB/GYN) you will probably end up rotating at multiple sites.How about during M4?