2011-2012 University of Arizona COM-Phoenix Application Thread

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Decided not to withdraw so you could pursue superior, osteopathic medicine? Too bad....

I am sure you read my posts somewhere about me choosing the DO, huh? You've got good eyes, but I don't exactly get what you meant up there though, 😕

What is wrong with changing the plan? People here on SDN are sometimes trying to be very critical about what someone else writes which can be offensive to other people. I changed my mind to take a chance to do the interview since this school is my in-state school. Yes, I contemplated and changed my plan. I decided to explore more about this school by visiting the school especially how the curriculum runs.
 
I am sure you read my posts somewhere about me choosing the DO, huh? You've got good eyes, but I don't exactly get what you meant up there though, 😕

What is wrong with changing the plan? People here on SDN are sometimes trying to be very critical about what someone else writes which can be offensive to other people. I changed my mind to take a chance to do the interview since this school is my in-state school. Yes, I contemplated and changed my plan. I decided to explore more about this school by visiting the school especially how the curriculum runs.

Your previous post (on this thread) was about your withdrawing because allopathic medicine was inferior.

Anyways, I think one of the best perks about UofA-Phx is the new building. It seems pretty great. If you live close, what does it hurt to check it out? Definitely worth a visit/interview.
 
Tomorrow is 1/20...🙂(), so... I bid you all adieu and good luck. Sincere congratulations to everybody who's been accepted and to those who have yet to interview. Phx is an amazing school that's headed in the right direction. I hope they think I'm worth interviewing the next time I apply (whenever that is).
 
Tomorrow is 1/20...🙂(), so... I bid you all adieu and good luck. Sincere congratulations to everybody who's been accepted and to those who have yet to interview. Phx is an amazing school that's headed in the right direction. I hope they think I'm worth interviewing the next time I apply (whenever that is).

Dang BrandNew, I'm sorry to see you didn't get an interview. Did you apply to any DO schools? Any luck elsewhere?

Not trying to pry, but I hate to see people willing to apply two years in a row with no success.
 
Dang BrandNew, I'm sorry to see you didn't get an interview. Did you apply to any DO schools? Any luck elsewhere?

Not trying to pry, but I hate to see people willing to apply two years in a row with no success.

Nope, no DO and no other interviews. Once I get the official Phx rejection, I'm down to five silences and one pre-interview hold from Tucson (an improvement, as they rejected me pre-secondary last year). The best-case scenario right now is to matriculate into a Neuroscience PhD program in the fall at a better university than my alma mater (think XX State University in one of the top five most populous states, as opposed to U of (large city)). I like the faculty whom I've met there and it's an opportunity to mature, gain new ECs and letters, gain publications, and (of course) evaluate research as an alternate career path. Med schools clearly don't want me, and if grad school does, they're certainly looking more attractive.

I'm blessed that, even with a PhD, I'd still matriculate into med school a year or two younger than the average matriculant. That's certainly somewhat comforting. My biggest worry is finishing a PhD and being forced into a postdoc because med schools still don't want me. That is a bitter pill to swallow by any metric.
 
Your previous post (on this thread) was about your withdrawing because allopathic medicine was inferior.

Anyways, I think one of the best perks about UofA-Phx is the new building. It seems pretty great. If you live close, what does it hurt to check it out? Definitely worth a visit/interview.

Where did I say that the allopathic medicine was inferior...?? 😕 I hope anyone like you doesn't take my previous post in a negative light. I believe everyone has a different interest in what type of medicine to practice. Personally, I was simply saying that the OMM seems to be effective (simply I experienced it) and I thought applying OMM into the modern medical practice is a novel idea. That is why I was more attractted to the DO philosophy.

By the way, did you interview here at COMPHX? If so, share some of your experiences here if you don't mind, please. It will be great for other people who will have upcoming interviews. Thanks.
 
Nope, no DO and no other interviews. Once I get the official Phx rejection, I'm down to five silences and one pre-interview hold from Tucson (an improvement, as they rejected me pre-secondary last year). The best-case scenario right now is to matriculate into a Neuroscience PhD program in the fall at a better university than my alma mater (think XX State University in one of the top five most populous states, as opposed to U of (large city)). I like the faculty whom I've met there and it's an opportunity to mature, gain new ECs and letters, gain publications, and (of course) evaluate research as an alternate career path. Med schools clearly don't want me, and if grad school does, they're certainly looking more attractive.

I'm blessed that, even with a PhD, I'd still matriculate into med school a year or two younger than the average matriculant. That's certainly somewhat comforting. My biggest worry is finishing a PhD and being forced into a postdoc because med schools still don't want me. That is a bitter pill to swallow by any metric.



If you really have your heart set on medicine, then you should really try to find out why you're not getting accepted. call the admission committees and get their feedback. review your personal statement and have physicians read it. are you showing a convincing interest and knowledge of medicine. are you putting a positive light on your life experiences and challenges, are you showing you can deal with stress. did you have any stellar LORs from your proffs or doctors? did you win any awards. did you give any oral or poster presentations?

a phd program is at least a 4 year commitment, or maybe 5 or 6 depending on how successfull you are at your research, writing papers, writing and defending your thesis. of course if you're in your 20's then you have plenty of time, and at the end you could end up a MD-PhD, so why not. just keep in mind the timeline and what your goals are.
 
Nope, no DO and no other interviews. Once I get the official Phx rejection, I'm down to five silences and one......

So you're between the age of 15 and 17?? Wow...I feel like a HUGE slacker. If medicine is your ultimate goal and you're diligently working towards that path, it'll work out. But why don't you apply to DO schools before looking at the longer PhD --> MD routes if becoming a physician is your ultimate goal?

By the way, did you interview here at COMPHX? If so, share some of your experiences here if you don't mind, please. It will be great for other people who will have upcoming interviews. Thanks.

Yes, I interviewed, but have not been accepted. The school was great and the students seemed happy. I like one-on-one interviews a lot more than MMIs, but what're you gonna do?
 
So you're between the age of 15 and 17?? Wow...I feel like a HUGE slacker. If medicine is your ultimate goal and you're diligently working towards that path, it'll work out. But why don't you apply to DO schools before looking at the longer PhD --> MD routes if becoming a physician is your ultimate goal?

I'm sixteen. I can't apply DO because my parents won't let me take another gap year. Besides, I'm not sure I could be happy as a DO- I've been doubted and looked down upon because of my age. I don't want to repeat that with a less common and trusted degree.
 
Tomorrow is 1/20...🙂(), so... I bid you all adieu and good luck. Sincere congratulations to everybody who's been accepted and to those who have yet to interview. Phx is an amazing school that's headed in the right direction. I hope they think I'm worth interviewing the next time I apply (whenever that is).

FWIW, admissions told me yesterday that they are behind and that they may not get the emails out today. Also, that there are "plenty" of invites left to go out.
 
FWIW, admissions told me yesterday that they are behind and that they may not get the emails out today. Also, that there are "plenty" of invites left to go out.

Here's to hoping I get a pleasant surprise, then!
 
I'm sixteen.

:wow:

what's the rush? why not go and live life a bit? travel the world, do medical missions, peace corps etc etc. maybe admission committees think you lack maturity?

my parents won't let me take another gap year.

pushy parents won't even let the kid take a break and live life... :smack:
that's how you end up with gifted kids burning out...
 
:wow:

what's the rush? why not go and live life a bit? travel the world, do medical missions, peace corps etc etc. maybe admission committees think you lack maturity?



pushy parents won't even let the kid take a break and live life... :smack:
that's how you end up with gifted kids burning out...

Well, you kind of answered your own question there... I've been told I have "worse than Asian" parents. :laugh: Everybody has their challenges. We just have to do the best with the cards we're dealt.
 
I'm sixteen. I can't apply DO because my parents won't let me take another gap year. Besides, I'm not sure I could be happy as a DO- I've been doubted and looked down upon because of my age. I don't want to repeat that with a less common and trusted degree.

😱 I thought my age was an issue, and I'm 20. I figured schools would have no reason to pick a 20 year old over a 24 year old with a similar application. Is it possible that your age is the only thing holding you back? Also, does the school you're hoping to do your PhD at have a medical school and an MD/PhD program? I know nothing about MD/PhD but I imagine it might be possible to apply MD/PhD at the school after having started your PhD... I don't know though.

I hope you get in this cycle, though. To even be in a position to apply at the age of 16 is seriously freaking impressive, and schools are missing out if they don't see that. :luck:
 
:wow:

what's the rush? why not go and live life a bit? travel the world, do medical missions, peace corps etc etc. maybe admission committees think you lack maturity?



pushy parents won't even let the kid take a break and live life... :smack:
that's how you end up with gifted kids burning out...


wow.. sixteen thats great. you have a golden opportunity to go out and do some of those incredible things listed above. im an older applicant as well that needs to go in now and by the tone of your posts i thought you were too. just my two cents dont stress too much 🙂 youre in an amazing position no matter what happens this cycle.
 
😱 I thought my age was an issue, and I'm 20. I figured schools would have no reason to pick a 20 year old over a 24 year old with a similar application. Is it possible that your age is the only thing holding you back? Also, does the school you're hoping to do your PhD at have a medical school and an MD/PhD program? I know nothing about MD/PhD but I imagine it might be possible to apply MD/PhD at the school after having started your PhD... I don't know though.

I hope you get in this cycle, though. To even be in a position to apply at the age of 16 is seriously freaking impressive, and schools are missing out if they don't see that. :luck:

Even more impressive because this is your second application season. 🙂
 
To BrandNewDay

I'm graduating from college one year early and I ran into a lot of resistance for that. You're not going to get accepted to medical school at age 16. I would wait until your at least 20 if you want a real chance.
 
BrandNewDay:

First, let me say that you must be an incredibly gifted individual to be where you are now. However, that also means that you haven't had much time to build life experience outside of Academia. Every single school that I have interviewed at seems to mention an emphasis on these possible experiences when selecting candidates.

It might not necessarily be solely based on your age or maturity. If I were an admissions committee member, given your circumstances, I think my biggest question would be if you were truly interested in medicine or if that was your parents also.

Take a long, hard look and ask yourself if this is what you really want. You've already been through this process, so you know how it can be. Your parents might not want you to take a gap year, but if you don't hear back this cycle I'd say that it is exactly what you would need. If you took just one year for volunteering, mission trips, etc. it might be more plausible to an admissions member that you truly do want a career in medicine. You might think I'm full of it, but think back to your personal statement and secondary application; how much stronger do you think those essays could be?
 
Well, you kind of answered your own question there... I've been told I have "worse than Asian" parents. :laugh: Everybody has their challenges. We just have to do the best with the cards we're dealt.

From what I've read, your biggest issue is your age, not your application. I didn't even think kids <18 would be allowed to matriculate.

Honestly, as a reapp, I tailored my entire application to how much I had matured in college and through my gap year. At nearly every one of my interviews (I've had 12 so far vs. 2 last time I applied) someone has commented on my maturation over the past year. I think a few years off would do you well, and greatly improve your chances.

Just $0.02 from a casual observer.
 
From what I've read, your biggest issue is your age, not your application. I didn't even think kids <18 would be allowed to matriculate.

Honestly, as a reapp, I tailored my entire application to how much I had matured in college and through my gap year. At nearly every one of my interviews (I've had 12 so far vs. 2 last time I applied) someone has commented on my maturation over the past year. I think a few years off would do you well, and greatly improve your chances.

Just $0.02 from a casual observer.

The youngest matriculant was much younger than me. I'd be 19 for M3 and 20 for M4, so that shouldn't be an issue.

I have had one interview across two cycles. Only one school has thought I was worth meeting. I doubt my age is the only problem. Hence the PhD as an option. At least grad schools want me.

It may sound whiny and petulant, but it is nice to be wanted. Grad school isn't my dream, but at least it helps me move forward.
 
FWIW, admissions told me yesterday that they are behind and that they may not get the emails out today. Also, that there are "plenty" of invites left to go out.

there isn't much more days left for accepting 🙁

Was anybody accepted today?
 
By the way, did you interview here at COMPHX? If so, share some of your experiences here if you don't mind, please. It will be great for other people who will have upcoming interviews. Thanks.

I interviewed in the fall and have been on the road at 3 other MD programs since - hands down, the Phoenix campus stands out:

Innovation - this campus is objective-driven. All things-academic appear purposeful, successful and the results show. The match list is impressive, the 100% Step 1 and 2 pass rate, student happiness is evident.

Charisma - Phoenix puts on a good day that is heartfelt by applicants. The people on my day were amazed by the passion and enthusiasm from Dean Flynn, Admissions Dean Tara and everyone else. Even the security guard was nice!!

Organization - I am a true believer that how you are treated as an applicant is indeed the treatment received as a student. From day one, the campus and staff was kind, informative (probably too much information if anything), and I never had to guess what came next. I'd be supported in Phoenix - hands down!

Hopefully others will chime in. The academic program is solid and filled with opportunity, I though.
 
Today wasn't an acceptance date - the next is Jan 30, followed by Feb 6, Feb 20 and March 2.


Thank you! I had mistaken the 1/30 accepteance date for 1/20. I was all scared yesterday and depressed today but am happy again :laugh:
 
Grad school isn't my dream, but at least it helps me move forward.


I actually think a gifted youngster like yourself would be making better use of gifted abilities by doing research and pursuing a PhD before turning 20, than going for an MD. History has shown that the great breakthroughs were made by people in their early 20's (Einstein, Heisenberg, Newton, Watson, etc.) So go do your neuro PhD, and unlock the mysteries of memory and consciousness, or find out how to repair nerve and spinal cord damage with stem cells, etc 🙂

after you finish your PhD go travel the world for a couple years doing volunteer work, building houses with Habitat, etc. THEN apply for med school.
 
I actually think a gifted youngster like yourself would be making better use of gifted abilities by doing research and pursuing a PhD before turning 20, than going for an MD. History has shown that the great breakthroughs were made by people in their early 20's (Einstein, Heisenberg, Newton, Watson, etc.) So go do your neuro PhD, and unlock the mysteries of memory and consciousness, or find out how to repair nerve and spinal cord damage with stem cells, etc 🙂

after you finish your PhD go travel the world for a couple years doing volunteer work, building houses with Habitat, etc. THEN apply for med school.

Discipline to finish 120 credit hours =/= genius.
 
did anyone who got an email on 12-22 (the secondary app update email) got any II or rejection today? cuz i called them a couple days ago n they said that there are still plenty of II's to be sent out n also that whether we get picked or not, we will receive an email notification. I also heard someone say that UA Phx is behind so that they may not be able to sent out emails today. is it true? also, did they send out any rejections to pplz who got the 12-22 email, or are rejections supposed to be sent out collectively some other time??????
 
Discipline to finish 120 credit hours =/= genius.

it doesn't matter to me nor is it for me to judge if he's a genius or not. I'm just guessing that if a 16 year old has completed all the premed requirements with decent grades, his IQ must be in the range of 140+. So I think he'd be better off doing research now than going into medicine. Just my opinion though.
 
Discipline to finish 120 credit hours =/= genius.

Even though I completely agree, I'm still slightly insulted by this comment. My ego is apparently distinct from my brain. :laugh:

it doesn't matter to me nor is it for me to judge if he's a genius or not. I'm just guessing that if a 16 year old has completed all the premed requirements with decent grades, his IQ must be in the range of 140+. So I think he'd be better off doing research now than going into medicine. Just my opinion though.

HER. Her IQ. -__-

I don't like research very much. If I thought I could be happy in research, I never would have applied to med school. In my case, a PhD is a chance to discover that I can be happy in research. If that proves not to be the case, it'll be a challenge that allows me to grow and mature, as well as an opportunity to gain publications and new ECs to strengthen my application for when I do reapply.
 
did anyone who got an email on 12-22 (the secondary app update email) got any II or rejection today? cuz i called them a couple days ago n they said that there are still plenty of II's to be sent out n also that whether we get picked or not, we will receive an email notification. I also heard someone say that UA Phx is behind so that they may not be able to sent out emails today. is it true? also, did they send out any rejections to pplz who got the 12-22 email, or are rejections supposed to be sent out collectively some other time??????

I agree they didn't send any notice out today. I made the same phone call awhile back ( I believe in late November) they told me that the last interviews will be given out at the end of February. Hence, my shock to see that 1/20/12 was the deadline. Well here is for wishful thinking :luck: , or my notice that whatever happens its the way it is there is absolutely NOTHING that I can do about it.
 
I wouldn't try to do a PhD if you don't want to do research. It's a waste of time. I know you're young and could do it and still be younger than a lot of us starting med school but . . . still. Doesn't seem like the best use of time. To each her own, but if you don't like research it seems like a setup to be miserable for the next 4-6 years, that's my take.

I get that your hands are tied here to an extent because of your parents, but damn. Applying for med school the second time and you are 16? I don't know why they would rush you through the experience of high school and college. I was not a fan of high school in any way shape or form but college was an amazing experience that would not have been nearly as enjoyable had I been a preteen/young teen while experiencing it. Not to mention that med school and residency are grueling and lots of people wish they had some time off before starting, to be free and to something, anything, else. Once you're in you are locked in until the loans are paid off...

You sound very mature and I am not trying to diminish your accomplishments in any way....it really is quite amazing. If anything I hope your parents can understand and be supportive of why you are not getting in to medical school now, which may only be for the simple reason that at 16 you have not yet had as much life experience as they want to see in their applicants. I don't know what your total package looks like but this is my first guess.

With everything you've done, you will get in, but it may not be on your parent's timetable.
 
HER. Her IQ. -__-

Sorry, your avatar looks a lot like a HE.
I don't like research very much. If I thought I could be happy in research, I never would have applied to med school. In my case, a PhD is a chance to discover that I can be happy in research. If that proves not to be the case, it'll be a challenge that allows me to grow and mature, as well as an opportunity to gain publications and new ECs to strengthen my application for when I do reapply.

getting a PhD is not an "easier alternative" to med school. It is quite challenging and grueling in its own way. when doing research, your aim is always to increase your "N", meaning you have to keep doing the same experiment over and over again to gather enough data to show statistical significance. This can get boring after a while, cause each attempt at getting the data can fail. so for each data point you might have to do it 10, 20, 50,.... times. let's say you're doing a drug concentration series, with a range of 5 different concentrations. so you have to do your experiment 50, 100, or more times. that'll give you one graph in your paper. lets say you have 4-5 graphs in your paper. so multiply your steps above. then you have to send it in for peer review, and they'll shred it to pieces and you might have to redo some parts. you'll need 3-5 papers for your PhD, depending on your adviser. Finally you have to write a thesis and defend it in front of the committee.

so getting a PhD is not a walk in the park, and they don't pass them out like candy. making it and surviving in academia is not easy either. often you have to "publish or perish", meaning if you don't bring in grant money to your department, they'll kick you out. I've seen it happen to perfectly good assistant professors.

but you get to make novel discoveries which is very exciting and gratifying. you get to go to conferences and give talks or present posters. you get to TA some undergrad courses. you get to go to journal clubs and be up to date with the current research in the field.

if you think you can put up with the tedious parts of doing research and publishing papers and getting your PhD, and you can enjoy the other parts of the process, then go for it. I don't think you'll be missing a "window of opportunity" if you don't do either medicine or PhD at this time though. one thing's for sure, you'll be missing out on the chance to be a teenager.
 
Sorry, your avatar looks a lot like a HE.

if you think you can put up with the tedious parts of doing research and publishing papers and getting your PhD, and you can enjoy the other parts of the process, then go for it. I don't think you'll be missing a "window of opportunity" if you don't do either medicine or PhD at this time though. one thing's for sure, you'll be missing out on the chance to be a teenager.

At least he's gay? Is it so wrong to crush on NPH? *sniff*

Rub it in, why don't you? I gave up that chance to be a kid a long time ago. I unfortunately know what I'm getting myself into with a PhD. I'm simply trying to be as optimistic as possible while the rejections roll in.
 
Dude, seriously - while it's impressive that you're so young, please, go have some fun before doing a PhD or MD! Once you're on the MD track, you're life is set up for at least the next 7-12 years and beyond, so you'll never have the kind of freedom you have now. It will make your application to med school look AWESOME if you go travel for a few years and gain some unique experiences. And especially for a school like Phoenix that puts a lot of weight on humanism in medicine... I hate to say it, but while again you're a very impressive individual, you're not the type of person Phoenix typically seeks. Not that the young'uns don't get in here, but most of us tend to have other non-trad experiences under our belts.

I agree with startoverat40 - frankly, I wouldn't even subject myself to a PhD program at this point. Maybe another bachelor's degree along with a fun college life where you take the time to be super-involved in extra-curriculars and get outside your comfort zone. I'd take the time also to study abroad, and perhaps seek some awesome medical experiences that would not only be incredibly enriching for you but would stand out when you apply again. Why spend your teens in a lab? Go have fun and learn new and interesting non-science things until you're 18 or so, then travel for a few years, then reapply!

Certainly in the end this is your decision and you know yourself better than any of us, but I really think it would be good for you to get out there and gain a different perspective. I began at Phoenix when I was 26, and I'm so grateful now for some amazing extra-curricular experiences, my wonderful husband and growing family, and my degree in Music. I originally felt I had wasted so much time when I first got into med school, but now I realize that I have basically sold my soul to medicine and will never again be able to immerse myself completely in those other things again! There is no hurry, especially for a sixteen-year-old!! 🙂
 
I'm simply trying to be as optimistic as possible while the rejections roll in.

you should be absolutely optimistic, and you should not look at these as rejections, even though your parents may be making you look at them that way. these are just people (sorry to say) wiser than your parents, telling you that you still have plenty of time to live life and to achieve great things.

you shouldn't try to beat anybody's record for youngest in med school (i think record is 12) or grad school (youngest professor was 19), and you shouldn't try to live by anybody's timeline. In 2 years you will legally be an adult. live your own life.
 
Can someone who interviewed here elaborate a little bit more about MMI style here at COMPHX? As I was trying to prepare for this style of interview, I was really hesistant what to do really...Any advice or tip you might have? I know there will be 10 stations with different topics to discuss with the interviewers. It will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 
Can someone who interviewed here elaborate a little bit more about MMI style here at COMPHX? As I was trying to prepare for this style of interview, I was really hesistant what to do really...Any advice or tip you might have? I know there will be 10 stations with different topics to discuss with the interviewers. It will be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

When I interviewed last cycle, I googled every prompt I could find and wrote them on notecards. Practice reading them for two minutes and talking about them. When you get to UA, you'll get a name tag that also has the order of the stations you're supposed to go to on it. There's no confusion, fortunately. The interviews are held in a set of mock exam rooms, so they're close together. The interviewers have your picture and name, but nothing else. They can ask questions- and they do when you stop talking. Each room has the station number, the prompt, and name of the interviewer on it. The stations that didn't have names on them were the acting stations. Tara joked that that was our hint for the day. You essentially have one minute to switch stations, two to read the prompt, and eight to discuss with the interviewer. A 30 second warning will sound, and none of the interviewers minded if you finished your thought before leaving. Overall, I enjoyed it. While one half of the interview group is interviewing, the other is in a series of talks about student life, financial aid, and curriculum. The two groups then eat lunch separately and switch. I had my interview in the afternoon, and I preferred that. I do recommend drinking something with caffeine at lunch to help keep you perky and cheery! At the end, there is a closing presentation with what to expect in the remainder of the process and an optional tour led by a med student. It took no more than a half hour, so I would definitely plan to be out before four. Good luck!

(if something has changed since my interview, please point it out)
 
When I interviewed last cycle, I googled every prompt I could find and wrote them on notecards. Practice reading them for two minutes and talking about them. When you get to UA, you'll get a name tag that also has the order of the stations you're supposed to go to on it. There's no confusion, fortunately. The interviews are held in a set of mock exam rooms, so they're close together. The interviewers have your picture and name, but nothing else. They can ask questions- and they do when you stop talking. Each room has the station number, the prompt, and name of the interviewer on it. The stations that didn't have names on them were the acting stations. Tara joked that that was our hint for the day. You essentially have one minute to switch stations, two to read the prompt, and eight to discuss with the interviewer. A 30 second warning will sound, and none of the interviewers minded if you finished your thought before leaving. Overall, I enjoyed it. While one half of the interview group is interviewing, the other is in a series of talks about student life, financial aid, and curriculum. The two groups then eat lunch separately and switch. I had my interview in the afternoon, and I preferred that. I do recommend drinking something with caffeine at lunch to help keep you perky and cheery! At the end, there is a closing presentation with what to expect in the remainder of the process and an optional tour led by a med student. It took no more than a half hour, so I would definitely plan to be out before four. Good luck!

(if something has changed since my interview, please point it out)

Thanks for the detailed information!
 
At least he's gay? Is it so wrong to crush on NPH? *sniff*

Rub it in, why don't you? I gave up that chance to be a kid a long time ago. I unfortunately know what I'm getting myself into with a PhD. I'm simply trying to be as optimistic as possible while the rejections roll in.
That's just it. Most people still see you as a kid. But to be honest I don't think anyone is doubting your ability to learn medicine. Most likely they are not convinced about your commitment to medicine, and your ability to deliver medicine at such a young age. In theory you could be a full practicing physician at 23. That's kinda scary in this day in age when you have 30 year old's still partying it up.

You're in a complex situation with your parents and all, but as a third time applicant who finally managed to get an acceptance this cycle, I would say all you really need to do is convince the adcoms of your desire to be a physician. How you do that is something you need to figure out, but I would start by getting feedback from the schools you applied to. If it turns out that age is the only problem than you're just going to have to wait, but if there are elements you can add to your candidacy then it gives you something to work towards, and you should give it another shot once you have taken those step.
 
Thanks for the detailed information!

No problem. Best of luck on your interview. Hopefully somebody who interviewed more recently will chime in on any changes. One more thing- don't bring a coat if you can possibly avoid it. I was the only one who did and it was a PITA to cart everywhere. Stick with your suit jacket and warm up inside.

I messaged everybody else, as I'm pretty sure nobody cares to hear about my drama on the thread. If anybody has any additional, appreciated advice to add, I would certainly appreciate a PM.
 
No problem. Best of luck on your interview. Hopefully somebody who interviewed more recently will chime in on any changes. One more thing- don't bring a coat if you can possibly avoid it. I was the only one who did and it was a PITA to cart everywhere. Stick with your suit jacket and warm up inside.

I messaged everybody else, as I'm pretty sure nobody cares to hear about my drama on the thread. If anybody has any additional, appreciated advice to add, I would certainly appreciate a PM.

Your "drama" was one of the best discussions I've seen in a while on this site. If we take away your age, the topics of experiences, MD vs PhD, and re-applying can apply to a lot of people. Its good to get these things out for other people to learn from.
 
Your "drama" was one of the best discussions I've seen in a while on this site. If we take away your age, the topics of experiences, MD vs PhD, and re-applying can apply to a lot of people. Its good to get these things out for other people to learn from.


😳 Thank you! If somebody else can benefit from any part of my unique situation, so much the better.
 
When I interviewed last cycle, I googled every prompt I could find and wrote them on notecards. Practice reading them for two minutes and talking about them. When you get to UA, you'll get a name tag that also has the order of the stations you're supposed to go to on it. There's no confusion, fortunately. The interviews are held in a set of mock exam rooms, so they're close together. The interviewers have your picture and name, but nothing else. They can ask questions- and they do when you stop talking. Each room has the station number, the prompt, and name of the interviewer on it. The stations that didn't have names on them were the acting stations. Tara joked that that was our hint for the day. You essentially have one minute to switch stations, two to read the prompt, and eight to discuss with the interviewer. A 30 second warning will sound, and none of the interviewers minded if you finished your thought before leaving. Overall, I enjoyed it. While one half of the interview group is interviewing, the other is in a series of talks about student life, financial aid, and curriculum. The two groups then eat lunch separately and switch. I had my interview in the afternoon, and I preferred that. I do recommend drinking something with caffeine at lunch to help keep you perky and cheery! At the end, there is a closing presentation with what to expect in the remainder of the process and an optional tour led by a med student. It took no more than a half hour, so I would definitely plan to be out before four. Good luck!

(if something has changed since my interview, please point it out)

This cycle's interview setup is pretty much the same, with the small exceptions that the two groups eat lunch at the same time, all presentations are done at the beginning of the day, and a physical tour isn't offered (the new education building will open by the time classes start and there's no point in showing a building you will never spend time in). The day officially ends around 3:30 pm, but you'll most likely be done a little after 3.
 
When I interviewed last cycle, I googled every prompt I could find and wrote them on notecards...

BrandNewDay, I'm not criticizing you for this, but I just wanted to offer my perspective since the other applicant was asking for advice. I've been on the other end for many interviews (i.e. the interviewer), and one of my biggest pet peeves is when the interviewee gives rehearsed answers to my questions. The fact is that MMI's are designed so that they don't require any special preparation. The most important thing you can do is be you! If you prepare for an interview like it's the Academic Bowl, you run the risk of sounding disingenuous. The moment that happens the interview is over (at least in the mind of the interviewer). You also want to show that you can think on your feet! Rehearsed answers or obvious over-preparation don't convey that at all. Anyways, that's my 2 cents. When students ask me how to prepare for the MMI, I tell them that the best thing they can do is just relax 🙂
 
BrandNewDay, I'm not criticizing you for this, but I just wanted to offer my perspective since the other applicant was asking for advice. I've been on the other end for many interviews (i.e. the interviewer), and one of my biggest pet peeves is when the interviewee gives rehearsed answers to my questions. The fact is that MMI's are designed so that they don't require any special preparation. The most important thing you can do is be you! If you prepare for an interview like it's the Academic Bowl, you run the risk of sounding disingenuous. The moment that happens the interview is over (at least in the mind of the interviewer). You also want to show that you can think on your feet! Rehearsed answers or obvious over-preparation don't convey that at all. Anyways, that's my 2 cents. When students ask me how to prepare for the MMI, I tell them that the best thing they can do is just relax 🙂

You can't prepare for the questions, but you can prepare for the time constraints. You can practice formulating what you plan to say in that two minute period. If that time "stress" isn't new, it'll be easier. Although I do recommend at least thinking about how you'd explain your motivations for becoming a doctor, you won't be able to prepare for content.specifically. Relaxing is definitely important though!
 
BrandNewDay, I'm not criticizing you for this, but I just wanted to offer my perspective since the other applicant was asking for advice. I've been on the other end for many interviews (i.e. the interviewer), and one of my biggest pet peeves is when the interviewee gives rehearsed answers to my questions. The fact is that MMI's are designed so that they don't require any special preparation. The most important thing you can do is be you! If you prepare for an interview like it's the Academic Bowl, you run the risk of sounding disingenuous. The moment that happens the interview is over (at least in the mind of the interviewer). You also want to show that you can think on your feet! Rehearsed answers or obvious over-preparation don't convey that at all. Anyways, that's my 2 cents. When students ask me how to prepare for the MMI, I tell them that the best thing they can do is just relax 🙂

I do think that there is such a good thing with strong preparation, but I absolutely also agree that rehearsing responses and writing them on notecards is not the right way to go about it. When I did my MMI in Tucson, I made sure to prepare by learning about health care reform (which I did not know the details about before the application cycle), reading up on medical care ethics to think about scenarios that can happen and the proper mindset to have, and to simply follow up on current events. But, when it comes to the actual day itself, you have to just take all that you learn and think on your feet. Rehearsing will demonstrate that you know the material but it lacks a sense of genuineness and honesty which is a huge turnoff. Plus, evaluators can easily throw curveball follow ups that you wouldn't envision and trip you up that way.

By the way, I wonder if there's still more invites coming out? I know that they said 1/20 would be the last day for IIs but I haven't heard anything.
 
I do think that there is such a good thing with strong preparation, but I absolutely also agree that rehearsing responses and writing them on notecards is not the right way to go about it. When I did my MMI in Tucson, I made sure to prepare by learning about health care reform (which I did not know the details about before the application cycle), reading up on medical care ethics to think about scenarios that can happen and the proper mindset to have, and to simply follow up on current events. But, when it comes to the actual day itself, you have to just take all that you learn and think on your feet. Rehearsing will demonstrate that you know the material but it lacks a sense of genuineness and honesty which is a huge turnoff. Plus, evaluators can easily throw curveball follow ups that you wouldn't envision and trip you up that way.

By the way, I wonder if there's still more invites coming out? I know that they said 1/20 would be the last day for IIs but I haven't heard anything.

Ohnononono. I didn't say write the responses on notecards- write the prompts. That way, you can flip a card over, time yourself, then talk about it. Planning your response defeats the entire purpose.
 
did anyone get an II after 1/20 ???? for those of us who received the 12-22 email but still havent heard anything back, does that mean we r out of luck??? 😕😕😕
 
did anyone get an II after 1/20 ???? for those of us who received the 12-22 email but still havent heard anything back, does that mean we r out of luck??? 😕😕😕
I'm pretty sure they're just behind and will still let us know either way pretty soon. If all they had were rejections left, I think they would have easily sent those by now.
 
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