2012-2013 Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences Application Thread

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From what Dr. Saguil told us, you're only on the WL for one branch. That's it. You're locked into it from WL point on.

keep in mind though, they can offer you a spot in a different branch. this happened to one of the students giving a tour. he was on the wl for army or navy (can't remember which), was given a AF spot. another i know was asked to do army instead of navy... so just keep all that in mind.
 
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keep in mind though, they can offer you a spot in a different branch. this happened to one of the students giving a tour. he was on the wl for army or navy (can't remember which), was given a AF spot. another i know was asked to do army instead of navy... so just keep all that in mind.

From what Dr. Saguil told us, you're only on the WL for one branch. That's it. You're locked into it from WL point on.

During the interview day (24 Jan) I was given the impression that this year you would be placed under the waitlist for your top branch choice. With there being four different waitlists.
 
During the interview day (24 Jan) I was given the impression that this year you would be placed under the waitlist for your top branch choice. With there being four different waitlists.

I interviewed on Jan. 10th. At that point Lt. Col. Saguil said (to me personally) that you could in fact be taken by another branch after waitlisted.
 
During the interview day (24 Jan) I was given the impression that this year you would be placed under the waitlist for your top branch choice. With there being four different waitlists.

I got this impression too, but maybe they're not telling us things??
 
I got this impression too, but maybe they're not telling us things??

You are placed on one waitlist. HOWEVER, if a spot opens up elsewhere and they really like you, they will ask if you want to join under another branch. So just be prepared for that. They were pretty open about this slim possibility on interview day. That's why you rank the other branches as 1-4. They obviously will move onto the next person if you mark another branch as 4 and won't accept.. however for those that put 1 on all, they can offer you a spot in a branch other than that of your WL. It's not deceptive at all and increases your total chance of getting in the school period.

Did you hear back from Raven today?
 
You are placed on one waitlist. HOWEVER, if a spot opens up elsewhere and they really like you, they will ask if you want to join under another branch. So just be prepared for that. They were pretty open about this slim possibility on interview day. That's why you rank the other branches as 1-4. They obviously will move onto the next person if you mark another branch as 4 and won't accept.. however for those that put 1 on all, they can offer you a spot in a branch other than that of your WL. It's not deceptive at all and increases your total chance of getting in the school period.

Did you hear back from Raven today?

See, that's not at all what Dr. Saugil told us. He said that at this point in the application cycle, they don't consider our other branch preferences. The preference sheet was basically "meaningless" (I believe is the term he used). He made it seem as though there was no cross over on any WL ever. I'm not sure. That's just what he told our group. Maybe because we were the last day, and he figured our chances were pretty low anyway?

I did not hear back from her via email. I called the office at 4:30pm, but she was out today. Maybe tomorrow.
 
See, that's not at all what Dr. Saugil told us. He said that at this point in the application cycle, they don't consider our other branch preferences. The preference sheet was basically "meaningless" (I believe is the term he used). He made it seem as though there was no cross over on any WL ever. I'm not sure. That's just what he told our group. Maybe because we were the last day, and he figured our chances were pretty low anyway?

I did not hear back from her via email. I called the office at 4:30pm, but she was out today. Maybe tomorrow.

It was my understanding that they they rank applicants based on one waitlist, and when a slot opens up, lets say an airforce slot, they the most qualified person willing to go to the air force. if you're next on the waitlist and an army slot opens up, they offer it to you, but if you want to wait, you can pass it along to the next guy.

Thats oversimplifying it though. They probably operate in a manner to optimize, lets say 2 slots open up, lets say army and air force, and both want the army slot, but the one more qualified stated he's willing to go air force, they give the person who said they only want army the slot and give the air force slot to the guy who had it as a secondary preference. It is very similiar to how AFPC selects assignments for PCS'ers.
 
Well, I guess it is what it is. I'm hoping I hear back soon! Anyone know how far along they are with interview applications? (Jan24 Interviewee)
 
Alright, so I finally heard from Ms. Smith today. I called her because at the end of the day I still hadn't received an email, so you'll have to forgive me for paraphrasing. I believe I've kept the information as correct as possible.

Everyone is compared to army weight standards no matter which branch accepts them. There was no discrepancy between any of the charts for army weights, so just find your height on one of the documents I posted earlier, and you're good to go. That's the weight you need to be at or below to pass your physical.

If you want to be eligible for admission, you need to complete the physical by March 15, but you don't need to pass this physical (she hinted at the fact that they'll deny you acceptance and throw you off any waitlists if you don't complete a physical by March 15). If you don't pass for weight reasons, you'll get an email one to two weeks later telling you that you need to see a recruiter to be body fat measured. The body fat measures are the standard army body fat measures (try googling form DA 5500 or DA 5501 and Table 3).

When you get to the recruiter, they should re-weigh you. If you're under the limit that time then they won't bother taping measuring you. If you're still not under weight, they'll tape you, and send your measurements back to the school, whether you pass or fail the taping. If you don't pass body fat limits, you can get re-weighed/tape-tested with a recruiter as many times as you want in the upcoming weeks as you try to lose weight.

She was very specific though, they want everyone to be healthy coming to the school. The recruiter will send them each one of your weights and measures when you visit them, and if they think you're being unhealthy about how quickly you're dropping weight, they'll be grumpy and concerned. They want everyone in top physical shape, not weak because they didn't eat for two months to get in.

As most of us know, you can be offered a "conditional acceptance" if you don't meet weight requirements but everything else in your file is fine. The next step is "unconditional acceptance," and you only get that after passing all components of your physical. They really want everyone offered admission to have achieved that status by May 1st. But they MIGHT grant you leeway if they really like you as an applicant otherwise. She said its basically the only part of the application where they will make slight exceptions because, again, they want us to be healthy about losing weight, not starve ourselves to make weight by that date.

So that's how everything sounded to me. If you have any questions let me know, and I'll do my best to try to answer them from what she said. Otherwise, you'll have to call her with questions because this is basically the only info I have.
 
Alright, so I finally heard from Ms. Smith today. I called her because at the end of the day I still hadn't received an email, so you'll have to forgive me for paraphrasing. I believe I've kept the information as correct as possible.

Everyone is compared to army weight standards no matter which branch accepts them. There was no discrepancy between any of the charts for army weights, so just find your height on one of the documents I posted earlier, and you're good to go. That's the weight you need to be at or below to pass your physical.

If you want to be eligible for admission, you need to complete the physical by March 15, but you don't need to pass this physical (she hinted at the fact that they'll deny you acceptance and throw you off any waitlists if you don't complete a physical by March 15). If you don't pass for weight reasons, you’ll get an email one to two weeks later telling you that you need to see a recruiter to be body fat measured. The body fat measures are the standard army body fat measures (try googling form DA 5500 or DA 5501 and Table 3).

When you get to the recruiter, they should re-weigh you. If you're under the limit that time then they won’t bother taping measuring you. If you're still not under weight, they’ll tape you, and send your measurements back to the school, whether you pass or fail the taping. If you don't pass body fat limits, you can get re-weighed/tape-tested with a recruiter as many times as you want in the upcoming weeks as you try to lose weight.

She was very specific though, they want everyone to be healthy coming to the school. The recruiter will send them each one of your weights and measures when you visit them, and if they think you're being unhealthy about how quickly you're dropping weight, they'll be grumpy and concerned. They want everyone in top physical shape, not weak because they didn't eat for two months to get in.

As most of us know, you can be offered a “conditional acceptance” if you don’t meet weight requirements but everything else in your file is fine. The next step is “unconditional acceptance,” and you only get that after passing all components of your physical. They really want everyone offered admission to have achieved that status by May 1st. But they MIGHT grant you leeway if they really like you as an applicant otherwise. She said its basically the only part of the application where they will make slight exceptions because, again, they want us to be healthy about losing weight, not starve ourselves to make weight by that date.

So that's how everything sounded to me. If you have any questions let me know, and I'll do my best to try to answer them from what she said. Otherwise, you'll have to call her with questions because this is basically the only info I have.


see I told ya everyone had to go by army initial accessions but ya didn't believe me! :naughty:

thanks for all the info though. very detailed review.
 
see I told ya everyone had to go by army initial accessions but ya didn't believe me! :naughty:

thanks for all the info though. very detailed review.

I didn't want to believe you. Navy is my preferred branch, and I've got that weight limit covered. Army is a bit of a stretch for me though. I don't think I can lose that much weight by May 1st. I really wanted it to be branch specific so that I didn't have to diet.:annoyed:
 
I didn't want to believe you. Navy is my preferred branch, and I've got that weight limit covered. Army is a bit of a stretch for me though. I don't think I can lose that much weight by May 1st. I really wanted it to be branch specific so that I didn't have to diet.:annoyed:

haha I hear ya! I want Army and was still in denial of the weight limit...66 inches, 146 pounds. Good thing there's still a few months!
 
haha I hear ya! I want Army and was still in denial of the weight limit...66 inches, 146 pounds. Good thing there's still a few months!
What Army height weight standards are you going by? The Army APFT upper limits for weight at 66 inches is 163# for males, and 156# for females. Assuming you are age 21-27. You can find the tables here.
 
What Army height weight standards are you going by? The Army APFT upper limits for weight at 66 inches is 163# for males, and 156# for females. Assuming you are age 21-27. You can find the tables here.


oh I was using the tables from their website, #9/10 for males and females

http://www.usuhs.mil/adm/catalog/AdmissionRequirements.pdf

😕 I was using the tables on the USUHS website too, putting me at 137 for 64" female over 21yrs. That website is saying 147 though. I feel like it's best to be under 137 just to be safe... but if I don't have to that will be great. 147 lbs is a lot easier for me to get to than 137 lbs.
 
😕 I was using the tables on the USUHS website too, putting me at 137 for 64" female over 21yrs. That website is saying 147 though. I feel like it's best to be under 137 just to be safe... but if I don't have to that will be great. 147 lbs is a lot easier for me to get to than 137 lbs.

I am in the same boat. I am close if it's the list that USUHS has posted, but I'm super safe based off of the other ones. I spoke w/ Raven Smith yesterday and she said it was based off of the Army's specifications, which she didn't know offhand. She said our best bet was to contact an Army recruiter for specifics.
 
😕 I was using the tables on the USUHS website too, putting me at 137 for 64" female over 21yrs. That website is saying 147 though. I feel like it's best to be under 137 just to be safe... but if I don't have to that will be great. 147 lbs is a lot easier for me to get to than 137 lbs.

You have the wrong table. The USUHS table from last year is wrong. I noticed they put values for the age group 21 and under. You need to google "ARMY INITIAL ACCESSIONS FEMALE" and you will find the correct chart. Then look across it underneath your age. I just know this because I am your height so your max is actually not 137..it is 141... also I cleared so I know this is correct.. you will find this value if you find the correct chart. Or call an army recruiter. 🙂

ALSO, the value of 147 you are seeing is for people who are ALREADY in the army. There is a huge difference in standards between people joining up versus people already in. Therefore, as I stated before in this thread, you need to google the specific term: INITIAL ACCESSIONS ARMY


edit: Here is the correct table for females. I just went ahead and googled it for you as it pains me to see the wrong information being tossed around:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blarintweightfemale.htm
 
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You have the wrong table. The USUHS table from last year is wrong. I noticed they put values for the age group 21 and under. You need to google "ARMY INITIAL ACCESSIONS FEMALE" and you will find the correct chart. Then look across it underneath your age. I just know this because I am your height so your max is actually not 137..it is 141... also I cleared so I know this is correct.. you will find this value if you find the correct chart. Or call an army recruiter. 🙂

ALSO, the value of 147 you are seeing is for people who are ALREADY in the army. There is a huge difference in standards between people joining up versus people already in. Therefore, as I stated before in this thread, you need to google the specific term: INITIAL ACCESSIONS ARMY


edit: Here is the correct table for females. I just went ahead and googled it for you as it pains me to see the wrong information being tossed around:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/blarintweightfemale.htm
Yes good point, I wasn't aware of that. Here is the Army accessions chart for males.
 
hi! did anyone make a fb group for 2017 yet?
They did make a FB group for 2017. I don't know if an invitation is sent out dependent on the type of acceptance or not. I was sent an email from Dr. Saguil after I received my unconditional. If you haven't been emailed, I'd email Dr. Saguil or Lenora Hamlette and they may give you the link to request joining.
 
hey guys, so I've got kind of an important question I've been wondering about.

when you received your conditional acceptance, did anybody receive another document that you needed to mail back in order to hold your place in the class? I know that there are other school which require you to respond to their offer of admission by mailing in or electronically signing an acceptance form to hold your spot, but I don't remember getting any such thing from USUHS. Am I just crazy, or did no one else get something like that either?

Also, I just got an email saying that my unconditional letter was just mailed. Does anybody know what the next step in enrollment is after we get our unconditional letter? Thanks.
 
hey guys, so I've got kind of an important question I've been wondering about.

when you received your conditional acceptance, did anybody receive another document that you needed to mail back in order to hold your place in the class? I know that there are other school which require you to respond to their offer of admission by mailing in or electronically signing an acceptance form to hold your spot, but I don't remember getting any such thing from USUHS. Am I just crazy, or did no one else get something like that either?

Also, I just got an email saying that my unconditional letter was just mailed. Does anybody know what the next step in enrollment is after we get our unconditional letter? Thanks.

Yes, they sent out two forms they wanted you to sign to hold your spot. For me they lost it twice >.< I sent in a scanned copy so they knew I was serious, and they got the third try hardcopy! Might call the office and double check to see if all your forms are on file, can't hurt to make sure!

Unconditional, I think it's sit pretty and wait for commissioning orders. IIRC once you get your orders, you find the nearest officer to read you your oath and sign your forms, anywhere from a few days to a few weeks prior to your service specific training. Your pay starts from the date signed on your oath, first paycheck arrives while at training usually. Flight schedules and reimbursements are done after you have your orders in hand.

Otherwise, info has been sparse for me in terms of figuring out when to actually get across the country and move my and my SO's junk across the country and into an apartment... But hope that helps!
 
Have there been any recent acceptances (e.g. past 2 weeks)? Anyone get in on the WL yet?! Any kind of movement?! Tomorrow is March 1st... praying for some action soon!! :luck:
 
What are the chances I get a call for an interview given the current status of the application cycle? born and raised in the DC area, come from a family of all government employees and military, but no previous military experience myself.
 
What are the chances I get a call for an interview given the current status of the application cycle? born and raised in the DC area, come from a family of all government employees and military, but no previous military experience myself.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if I recall correctly, last Thursday was the last interview batch for this coming fall. 🙁 Sorry.
 
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if I recall correctly, last Thursday was the last interview batch for this coming fall. 🙁 Sorry.

So i guess that means that I should be getting a rejection letter soon? do they keep some applications on a WL for interviews in case spots open? do you know how full their matriculating class is at this point?
 
So i guess that means that I should be getting a rejection letter soon? do they keep some applications on a WL for interviews in case spots open? do you know how full their matriculating class is at this point?

I don't think they keep a list for interviews as of now because they finished interviewing, but I could be wrong. I know that their class is full and the wait lists for the branches already have people on them though.
 
does anybody know how grading at USUHS works? is it strictly P/F, or a honors/high pass/pass type thing, or do they grade on a curve (where students compete against other students)?
 
does anybody know how grading at USUHS works? is it strictly P/F, or a honors/high pass/pass type thing, or do they grade on a curve (where students compete against other students)?

At our interview, Dr. Saguil said that most classes are P/F but there are a few (I think they might be military medicine specific classes) that are Honors/P/F.
 
Hey thanks for this, it's really helpful but is also really freaking me out. I scheduled my physical a month ago and the place I was assigned couldn't give me an appointment until the end of March. So my physical is not going to be completed by March 15th. Is anyone else in a situation like this? Anyone had any success getting in earlier for their physical when their assigned place was booked up?

Alright, so I finally heard from Ms. Smith today. I called her because at the end of the day I still hadn't received an email, so you'll have to forgive me for paraphrasing. I believe I've kept the information as correct as possible.

Everyone is compared to army weight standards no matter which branch accepts them. There was no discrepancy between any of the charts for army weights, so just find your height on one of the documents I posted earlier, and you're good to go. That's the weight you need to be at or below to pass your physical.

If you want to be eligible for admission, you need to complete the physical by March 15, but you don't need to pass this physical (she hinted at the fact that they'll deny you acceptance and throw you off any waitlists if you don't complete a physical by March 15). If you don't pass for weight reasons, you’ll get an email one to two weeks later telling you that you need to see a recruiter to be body fat measured. The body fat measures are the standard army body fat measures (try googling form DA 5500 or DA 5501 and Table 3).

When you get to the recruiter, they should re-weigh you. If you're under the limit that time then they won’t bother taping measuring you. If you're still not under weight, they’ll tape you, and send your measurements back to the school, whether you pass or fail the taping. If you don't pass body fat limits, you can get re-weighed/tape-tested with a recruiter as many times as you want in the upcoming weeks as you try to lose weight.

She was very specific though, they want everyone to be healthy coming to the school. The recruiter will send them each one of your weights and measures when you visit them, and if they think you're being unhealthy about how quickly you're dropping weight, they'll be grumpy and concerned. They want everyone in top physical shape, not weak because they didn't eat for two months to get in.

As most of us know, you can be offered a “conditional acceptance” if you don’t meet weight requirements but everything else in your file is fine. The next step is “unconditional acceptance,” and you only get that after passing all components of your physical. They really want everyone offered admission to have achieved that status by May 1st. But they MIGHT grant you leeway if they really like you as an applicant otherwise. She said its basically the only part of the application where they will make slight exceptions because, again, they want us to be healthy about losing weight, not starve ourselves to make weight by that date.

So that's how everything sounded to me. If you have any questions let me know, and I'll do my best to try to answer them from what she said. Otherwise, you'll have to call her with questions because this is basically the only info I have.
 
Have there been any recent acceptances (e.g. past 2 weeks)? Anyone get in on the WL yet?! Any kind of movement?! Tomorrow is March 1st... praying for some action soon!! :luck:

anyone? this wait is 🙁
 
Just received my wait list letter today. I'm am on the Navy list. I would have received this letter sooner had the LOA from Millington TN not taken so long. Any other AD Navy people out there having problems with this process? This is a recurrent very irritating problem for us. Please PM me if you need any advise on how to get your LOA pushed through the Admrials' desk. Additionally, I want to collect information from others so we can see about fixing this for future AD Navy applicants.
 
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hey guys,

so i just got an email saying that my unconditional letter had been mailed. does anybody know approximately how long it takes to get the letter after receiving this email?

also, i was wondering what the next steps were for matriculation. are there any other forms/documents that we need to be filling out, or are we just supposed to be sitting on our hands in the meantime? thanks.
 
I'm hoping someone here can give me some advice.

I am a nontraditional student and I really want to go to USUHS (applying this year for 2014). They have a requirement of 2 letters from science faculty, one from a clinical supervisor, and one from a non-science faculty.

I currently have the two science faculty letters and I have two letters from doctors lined up, but my issue is with the non-science letter. Being nontrad, I have taken all science classes recently with the exception of a lower division communications course with around 200 people in it. The professor for that course is a nice guy and would probably write me a letter but I doubt it would be a very strong one, given the amount of students in the class limits the interactions. My other option is to write a letter explaining why I could not obtain a non-science letter (per the schools guidelines).

So my question is, which is better, having a mediocre recommendation letter, or just explaining my situation, which is that I haven't had non-science courses in about ten years and what ones I have had are so large I could not obtain one?
 
hey guys,

so i just got an email saying that my unconditional letter had been mailed. does anybody know approximately how long it takes to get the letter after receiving this email?

also, i was wondering what the next steps were for matriculation. are there any other forms/documents that we need to be filling out, or are we just supposed to be sitting on our hands in the meantime? thanks.

maybe a week or so, it's mailed by USPS. (my actual admission letter came in a plastic bag as a post machine got jammed with it, of all the letters to get near shredded by the USPS... it had to be my letter of admission to medical school, right??).

If you don't get it in a week, give the school a call and say you haven't received it yet, the USPS usually doesn't take longer than 7 days to get a letter across the country.

As for the other stuff, I'll see if anyone else has other notes 😉
 
I'm hoping someone here can give me some advice.

I am a nontraditional student and I really want to go to USUHS (applying this year for 2014). They have a requirement of 2 letters from science faculty, one from a clinical supervisor, and one from a non-science faculty.

I currently have the two science faculty letters and I have two letters from doctors lined up, but my issue is with the non-science letter. Being nontrad, I have taken all science classes recently with the exception of a lower division communications course with around 200 people in it. The professor for that course is a nice guy and would probably write me a letter but I doubt it would be a very strong one, given the amount of students in the class limits the interactions. My other option is to write a letter explaining why I could not obtain a non-science letter (per the schools guidelines).

So my question is, which is better, having a mediocre recommendation letter, or just explaining my situation, which is that I haven't had non-science courses in about ten years and what ones I have had are so large I could not obtain one?
honestly (and this is just my opinion, others might feel differently), i would just write a letter explaining your situation to USUHS than go for a mediocre letter. if you can somehow get a worthwhile non-science letter, thats best, but I happen to know for a fact that USUHS does read and take into account letters explaining why certain aspects of their application couldnt be met.

I, for example, was in a similar situation this year with regard to some of my pre-requisite coursework. I wrote USUHS (and the other schools I applied to) a letter explaining my situation and why my pre-medical preparation was still adequate for admissions purposes, and lo and behold six months later I've got a couple of acceptances under my belt, including USUHS. So it does work, if you've got a good enough reason. USUHS is also kinda friendly to non-trads, so its a good bet they'll listen.
 
honestly (and this is just my opinion, others might feel differently), i would just write a letter explaining your situation to USUHS than go for a mediocre letter. if you can somehow get a worthwhile non-science letter, thats best, but I happen to know for a fact that USUHS does read and take into account letters explaining why certain aspects of their application couldnt be met.

I, for example, was in a similar situation this year with regard to some of my pre-requisite coursework. I wrote USUHS (and the other schools I applied to) a letter explaining my situation and why my pre-medical preparation was still adequate for admissions purposes, and lo and behold six months later I've got a couple of acceptances under my belt, including USUHS. So it does work, if you've got a good enough reason. USUHS is also kinda friendly to non-trads, so its a good bet they'll listen.

I agree. I wrote a letter to USUHS explaining my lack or committee letter (I'm also non-traditional), and still got an interview. Hopefully, I'll get an acceptance too, but I'm still waiting on that one.
 
I see a lot of discussion above about the army's weight/height standards and a desire to reach the number on that chart.

As an 11 year active duty member of the army, I want you to know that you should not get hung up on that number. The REAL STANDARD is the body fat analysis test, NOT THE WEIGHT! The screening weight is just that--a screening technique that allows the army to process soldiers faster. They figure if you fall under that maximum weight, you would pass the body fat analysis anyway (actually not 100% though--I've seen people pass weight and fail tape). It's a lot faster to measure height and weight and send you on your way (if you are under) than it would be to take three measurements (in triplicate) of every single soldier every single test. That's why there is a weight screening.

I have never ever ever made weight. Ever. I am a large man (not a stick), and although there are times in my career I do consider myself fat, and times lean, I have never come within 20 lbs of that number on that chart, and usually have many inches to spare on the tape test. If you have any appreciable amount of muscle on your frame (if you lift weights regularly), then you will be over that screening number or likely right near it, and you may even be lean.

It really is no big deal. Just pass the tape test. No, I do not think the tape test is necessarily a valid estimation of body fat, but the army uses it because it is relatively easy and requires little equipment (just a tape measure).

I urge any of you who are concerned about the weight chart to get yourself a tape measure and see where you are. Just google "army tape test standards" or something similar, you'll find the numbers you need. There are even apps for it on Android and iPhone.

Good luck to you all!
 
I see a lot of discussion above about the army's weight/height standards and a desire to reach the number on that chart.

As an 11 year active duty member of the army, I want you to know that you should not get hung up on that number. The REAL STANDARD is the body fat analysis test, NOT THE WEIGHT! The screening weight is just that--a screening technique that allows the army to process soldiers faster. They figure if you fall under that maximum weight, you would pass the body fat analysis anyway (actually not 100% though--I've seen people pass weight and fail tape). It's a lot faster to measure height and weight and send you on your way (if you are under) than it would be to take three measurements (in triplicate) of every single soldier every single test. That's why there is a weight screening.

I have never ever ever made weight. Ever. I am a large man (not a stick), and although there are times in my career I do consider myself fat, and times lean, I have never come within 20 lbs of that number on that chart, and usually have many inches to spare on the tape test. If you have any appreciable amount of muscle on your frame (if you lift weights regularly), then you will be over that screening number or likely right near it, and you may even be lean.

It really is no big deal. Just pass the tape test. No, I do not think the tape test is necessarily a valid estimation of body fat, but the army uses it because it is relatively easy and requires little equipment (just a tape measure).

I urge any of you who are concerned about the weight chart to get yourself a tape measure and see where you are. Just google "army tape test standards" or something similar, you'll find the numbers you need. There are even apps for it on Android and iPhone.

Good luck to you all!

Deanwvu has it right. I'm also Active Duty (with not as many years). If you have an appreciable amount of muscle, chances are you will be right at or possibly above the guideline for your height.

That being said, you do not want to be the infamous "fat" officer. I do not know your situation, but I've posted an article that may show a bit more about the Army's situation (Dec 2012). I hope that it can be used to motivate people rather than to depress anyone. As an officer/doctor you will be wearing a dual hat, as a health professional as well as a leader. Talking to an enlisted and telling them they need to lose weight or get out doesn't work well if as an officer you are seen as "fat".
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/12/11/army-separating-more-troops-for-being-overweight.html

If you really want to be an officer in the military, the first step is getting past the initial assessment weight. But then you have to be able to come up with a personal plan for exercising daily. Being in the military will not make you lose weight. I'm currently at Walter Reed and I have a desk job without any form of organized PT and I'm not going to lie, it is tough doing 9 hours at work and then finding time on my own to go exercise for 30min-1 hour before I go to see my wife and kid.

I think I'm rambling on now though, the point I'm trying to make is that you shouldn't stop your weight loss program just because you made tape. As an officer you will have others looking at you and you need to be able to set a standard for them. I mean this to be motivational not as a deterrent..
 
does anybody know how grading at USUHS works? is it strictly P/F, or a honors/high pass/pass type thing, or do they grade on a curve (where students compete against other students)?

The Fundamentals module, the first one, is P/F. All other modules are H/P/F. Pass = 65. You must pass each exam though, not just average out. If you fail a particular exam you will have to retake it. If you fail the final or fail both you are looking at a remediation at a later time depending on which module it is.

I'm hoping someone here can give me some advice.

I am a nontraditional student and I really want to go to USUHS (applying this year for 2014). They have a requirement of 2 letters from science faculty, one from a clinical supervisor, and one from a non-science faculty.

I currently have the two science faculty letters and I have two letters from doctors lined up, but my issue is with the non-science letter. Being nontrad, I have taken all science classes recently with the exception of a lower division communications course with around 200 people in it. The professor for that course is a nice guy and would probably write me a letter but I doubt it would be a very strong one, given the amount of students in the class limits the interactions. My other option is to write a letter explaining why I could not obtain a non-science letter (per the schools guidelines).

So my question is, which is better, having a mediocre recommendation letter, or just explaining my situation, which is that I haven't had non-science courses in about ten years and what ones I have had are so large I could not obtain one?

Just explain why you can't get one. Don't send in a weak letter. They will understand.
 
Public Service Announcement: To anyone holding an acceptance here who knows they won't be matriculating, please withdraw sooner rather than later, so that the waitlisters can have a chance a little earlier... get a little head start on the future and such... Thank you!!!
 
Army wait-listed today. interviewed 1/24. Dr. Saguil said I was in the middle third. hoping a lot of people drop.
 
Army wait-listed today. interviewed 1/24. Dr. Saguil said I was in the middle third. hoping a lot of people drop.

Did you ask where on the WL you are or did he tell you? I don't know where I am on the WL but I would love to find out.. for some reason I thought they don't release that info. Did you ask how many people are on it or if there has been any movement yet?

This wait is killing me.....
 
Did you ask where on the WL you are or did he tell you? I don't know where I am on the WL but I would love to find out.. for some reason I thought they don't release that info. Did you ask how many people are on it or if there has been any movement yet?

This wait is killing me.....

There will not be much movement until some key dates:

1) 15 March - This is when USUHS screens out all the dirtbags who haven't done their physical yet. This probably won't impact the people who have been accepted (let's face it, if you were accepted, you'd be busting your ass to get that physical done!), but it will clear out a small amount on the waitlist and hold list, improving odds for people lower on the totem pole.

2) 20 April - Not sure this is the exact date, but it is near when the AFHPSP board results come out for the Air Force. Not sure the dates for Army or navy. People accepted or waitlisted at USUHS may choose to take the scholarship. Why? Because there is a smaller service commitment attached to it (4 vs. 7.....that makes a difference to some people). Therefore, we'll see some movement in certain branches depending on the release of board results.

3) 15 May - Do I really need to explain this one? Maybe people change their mind about going into the military. Maybe they got into their dream school with an HPSP scholarship. Perhaps we find out they're medically disqualified. Regardless of the reason, acceptance horders will need to relinquish all but one of their slots to the waitlisters to allow schools a chance to fully fill their classes.

Patience is a virtue, and in this case, mandatory. Especially if you plan on joining the military. Ever hear about the saying "Hurry up and wait"? This type of waiting is what they were talking about. We have to hurry up and they get to wait and take their time :laugh:
 
Hello fellow Army Wait listers!

I have finally registered to SDN because sitting back and reading post after post gets boring, especially when I know some good/useful info for the rest of you interested in attending USUHS this fall! If you want to know what third of the wait list you're in call up Colonel Saguil and he will be more than happy to tell you! As of today no movement has been occurring but because march 15th is the deadline for physical qualifications (or lack thereof) some accepted students may get the boot and about half of the current army WL people will be off- granted they aren't cleared by next friday (that was told to me by col. Saguil's assistant this afternoon). I hope this was helpful! I'm in that same limbo land and it has been quite difficult waiting, but just keep strong psychologically and have faith, things will work out for all of us-i hope.

"Waiting and hoping is a hard thing to do when you've been waiting and hoping for as long as you can bear it"....but remember PATIENCE is key! &#128522;
 
Hello fellow Army Wait listers!

I have finally registered to SDN because sitting back and reading post after post gets boring, especially when I know some good/useful info for the rest of you interested in attending USUHS this fall! If you want to know what third of the wait list you're in call up Colonel Saguil and he will be more than happy to tell you! As of today no movement has been occurring but because march 15th is the deadline for physical qualifications (or lack thereof) some accepted students may get the boot and about half of the current army WL people will be off- granted they aren't cleared by next friday (that was told to me by col. Saguil's assistant this afternoon). I hope this was helpful! I'm in that same limbo land and it has been quite difficult waiting, but just keep strong psychologically and have faith, things will work out for all of us-i hope.

"Waiting and hoping is a hard thing to do when you've been waiting and hoping for as long as you can bear it"....but remember PATIENCE is key! &#55357;&#56842;

Cool thank you so much for all the information!!!

Yes patience is a virtue... waiting to hear on life-changing news though can be a bit difficult at times. Especially if coming from across the country, leaving a job, thinking about reapplying, etc!! These posts are super great and spread hope though!!! I hope this month brings great news to us!
 
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