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YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY congratulations!!!!!!!! I'm so excited for you!
2013-2014 University of Texas - Southwestern Application Thread
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YAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY congratulations!!!!!!!! I'm so excited for you!
http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/edumedia/edufiles/medical_school/admissions/housing-survey.pdf
Above is a ms0 housing survery I found on the website.
Medical Park is exclusive to those with an association to the university whether it be student/employee. I do not believe that spouses are ineligible, but you may wish to give them a call or ring to verify this.
Above is a ms0 housing survery I found on the website.
Medical Park is exclusive to those with an association to the university whether it be student/employee. I do not believe that spouses are ineligible, but you may wish to give them a call or ring to verify this.
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I will second this. I looked at houses in Irving last summer. You can definitely get a nice 3BR for under $175k in Irving (probably under $150k too), and if you are located close to 183 or Irving Blvd, the commute is not bad if you avoid rush hour. Though I chose not to live there, my impression is Irving is a nice, quiet, safe suburb with convenient shopping and is close to both airports. I ended up buying a condo in north Oak Lawn, which is a lot more urban (by Dallas standards anyway).
If anyone wants to talk shop about real estate over thanksgiving break, PM me.
Also, it appears I was wrong about OOS acceptances going out on Nov 15 (sorry!). Congrats to all who got in!
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I think the tenant has to be associated with utsw. However i think you can have a significant other. I lived there with my wife and i was not associated with ut. So get the apartment, once you have the keys you are good. They even let you borrow a spare gate opener, so they ok with having someone living with you.
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This may seem a bit...proactive. But does anyone want to create a facebook group?
That would be a great idea! But i'm already a member of a BCM Class of 2018 group, so it would look super odd if I started one for UTSW.
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You should talk to the UTSW students who created last years group and see if it's alright for a premed to start it or if they are going to create one. Go thru the c/o 2017 group on FB to find them.
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You guys should totally start one. Last year I believe the FB group was started by an accepted student so there's definitely nothing wrong with that.
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Congrats to everyone who has been accepted. I am going to be applying next year and UTSW is my top choice. What sort of EC's do yall have?
Im non-trad, ex-military, 3 yrs prior research exp. 3.7/3.8 sGPA no MCAT yet. I only have about 16 hrs of shadowing and about 24 hrs of volunteer work but I also have a family so time is short. Any advice? what do your shadowing and volunteer numbers look like?
BTW I am having a super hard time finding shadowing. Any hints or does anyone in the Dallas area know someone who would be willing? PM me if so.
Im non-trad, ex-military, 3 yrs prior research exp. 3.7/3.8 sGPA no MCAT yet. I only have about 16 hrs of shadowing and about 24 hrs of volunteer work but I also have a family so time is short. Any advice? what do your shadowing and volunteer numbers look like?
BTW I am having a super hard time finding shadowing. Any hints or does anyone in the Dallas area know someone who would be willing? PM me if so.
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Someone has already created it.
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Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/189175837941143/
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damn dude, we have a ton of mutual friends lololol
Edit: nevermind, I thought you were the admin of the page
Ah sweet! Thanks
....................is the third one coming?
I'm anxiously waiting too. First batch was 11/15 and second batch was 11/25. So by my (overly optimistic) calculations, I say they will send some out tonight. 😉why is it so quiet here?.........kind of lonely waiting for the next pre-match by myself here.....anyone knows when it is coming?
But then again, they haven't interviewed any new applicants since they sent out the last batch (I'm assuming interviews were canceled this past Saturday), so it might be a while. 🙁
I just checked their interview schedule on their website. Their last interview date for this month was last saturday (which again i assume was canceled). So there will be no additional interviews between the second prematch day (11/25) and the final prematch day. Which might mean they may not send out more prematches. Or it might increase the chances of everyone who has already interviewed to receive a prematch. Just speculation of course.
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The interviews were not cancelled!
No way! Well thats pretty intense considering alot of flights must have been canceled and alot of interviewees/ interviewers might not have been able to make it.
In that case, the next batch should come out after they evaluate this past weekends applicants. Next week i would guess.
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Pure speculation
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You could just call them and ask if there is another round of prematches coming... They won't bite.
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There aren't going to be anymore pre-matches or other acceptances until match day I believe.
I'm a 4th year who volunteers to send congrats emails to accepted pre-meds and after the last round of acceptances, I was told these were the last emails I would need to send until match day since they were "with rare exception, done sending pre-match offers".
Sorry guys. =(
I'm a 4th year who volunteers to send congrats emails to accepted pre-meds and after the last round of acceptances, I was told these were the last emails I would need to send until match day since they were "with rare exception, done sending pre-match offers".
Sorry guys. =(
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They did send some early December. I don't think it was a ton though (obviously).
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Do you think this applies to OOS too? I interviewed in September and haven't heard back from here 🙁
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Yeah, I also interviewed (OOS) around then in early October. This school is my top choice, so I really,really hope I get accepted (and preferably before the May waitlist movement so I can move with good preparation).
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Good luck to you both! It's hard enough to get in to UTSW. So I can only imagine how much more difficult it must be for OOS to be accepted at Texas schools.
Hang in there!
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Do you think this applies to OOS too? I interviewed in September and haven't heard back from here 🙁
I am OOS and interviewed in September also. I did not ask specifically for IS or OOS. So I think it applies to all - no more pre-match. As for chance of acceptance from match, I assume it is more for IS applicants since the spots opened would be from mostly likely IS's. It is tough for OOS. I guess I will pin my hopes on waitlist movement
Do you think this applies to OOS too? I interviewed in September and haven't heard back from here 🙁
I am OOS and interviewed in September also. I did not ask specifically for IS or OOS. So I think it applies to all - no more pre-match. As for chance of acceptance from match, I assume it is more for IS applicants since the spots opened would be from mostly likely IS's. It is tough for OOS. I guess I will pin my hopes on waitlist movement
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Pure speculation here, but I'd imagine that there is decent waitlist movement for OOS. The UTs have a strict limit on OOS seats, so I'm guessing they don't over-accept. That would mean that ~24 acceptances have gone out, but, looking at US News, around 50 acceptances go out in total.
According to past threads, very few people (if any) seem to match regardless of IS or OOS. They overfill the class with prematches, so that even after they lose a few students to other Texas schools on match day, they still have a full class and dont need to match anyone. At least thats how i understand it. So we (both IS and OOS) probably have to wait for waitlist movement, unless they are doing things differently this year.hopelezwanderer said: ↑
Do you think this applies to OOS too? I interviewed in September and haven't heard back from here 🙁
I am OOS and interviewed in September also. I did not ask specifically for IS or OOS. So I think it applies to all - no more pre-match. As for chance of acceptance from match, I assume it is more for IS applicants since the spots opened would be from mostly likely IS's. It is tough for OOS. I guess I will pin my hopes on waitlist movement
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Who would choose *other* TX schools over UTSW??? (except for maybe Baylor, but Baylor doesn't participate in the match) To me, it seems more likely that highly competitive applicants are lured away from UTSW later in the cycle (spring) by significantly more prestigious schools (like top 10) and/or full tuition scholarships or something like that. But there is no comparison between UTSW and other TX schools (except Baylor), sorry 🙂
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I'm hoping they do. I loved utsw when I visited. but I think people that choose other schools based on proximity to family and personal preference based on how they perceive the "fit" of the school is for their personality..
hopefully there will be wait list movement this year...
Your right, thats why i said only a few. But some people have to consider their families. Some people choose a different school bc they just seem to like it better for whatever reason. And some schools give such big scholarships that it makes a tough decision.
For what its worth, my student host in galveston and lubbock both prematched into UTSW and chose their schools over it.
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A good friend of mine also picked A&M over SW.
SW is a phenomenal school but I see no reason to disparage the other schools in Texas, all of which are great places to be.
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Huh, interesting. You and PescadoAmor are making a good point about family and "fit".
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I was not disparaging other TX schools, it's just that UTSW really stands out. Now thanks to yungmedup and PescadoAmor I see why people may choose other TX schools over UTSW. Though it's worth pointing out that the reasons mentioned fall into the "personal/subjective" rather than "objective" category.
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Interestingly, it happens more often than you think for the reasons already mentioned above (location/scholarships/family).
I personally am debating between UTHSCSA or UTSW. My family and friends are in SA so its an interesting situation for me .
A lot of people have the mindset that its better to be great at a good school than good at a great school.
Naturally we would feel that way considering we are on the other side of the table now, amy. However, all the schools will offer you the tools to be an excellent physician.
Each school has something unique to offer. UTSW has its new clinical facilities, more specialty matches, and their blended curriculum ( traditional year 1, integrated year 2).
UTH has the TMC, UMTB has the half-day PBLS, Lubbock has the rural west mission, etc..
Also to all the people commenting about matching: OOS do not prematch or match. This tool is used only for IS students. You are either accepted or you are pulled off the waitlist. So if some of the OOS people decline their offer, then more OOS offers go out. Dr. Norred mentioned that those 24 spots are reserved for OOS applicants only. Hope that helps.
One of my friends went last weekend to UTSW to interview: out of the some 70 applicants, about 30-40 failed to show up because of the weather. There are two more interviews in January for UTSW, and these will include those 30-40 who failed to show up. If I had to hazard a guess, UTSW may have been planning on sending out another batch of pre matches, but if they sent them out, it would not be fair for those who had to reschedule to next year because of the weather.
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Hahaha, people like you are the reason UTSW has such a gunner, arrogant reputation. Come on man.
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Amydarya's statement is generally true. I'm sure some people choose other UT schools over UTSW for personal reasons and fit, but it does seem like UTSW is a step above the rest in terms of national reputation. Most of the students I talked to at UTSW got into most of the UTs and chose UTSW, but I didn't meet a single student who was blatantly arrogant about it. Sure, there are grades and everyone is competitive to a degree, but not any more so than any other school I visited.
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Someone mentioned here (but then apparently changed his/her post, so I don't see it more) that the prestige of a school doesn't matter. It is both true and not true. It just depends on what you want to do with your MD degree: if you want to be *a* doctor, you will get into *a* residency from pretty much any US medical school as long as you don't completely slack off in your USMLEs etc. - and in this sense, any medical school is great because it will give you an MD. You can become a good doctor, too, and it's great.
If, however, you have more specific ideas about what you want to do - say, you want to go into an ultracompetitive specialty like neurosurgery or plastics - going to a prestigious school is a lot more important if not crucial. It's about name recognition and connections.
I'm planning to go into one of the less competitive specialties, but I want to contribute to the progress of medicine, so I want to go to a school where I can do strong research and from which I will be able to go to one of the top residencies, so I can do the same. For my purpose, there is huge difference between schools, and not even because of prestige but more because of the opportunities they offer.
My mistake here was that I didn't take into account individual preferences of other people before making my statement about UTSW. And I apologize for that. But I will not apologize for wanting to study hard, work hard and achieve whatever it is I want to achieve. I don't care if you call me a gunner - though I think the word is often misused, as historically it meant someone who wanted to get ahead at the expense of other people, and this is certainly not me (I'm only competing with myself, i.e. I want to push myself hard and perform at the top of my abilities, but I'm actually very noncompetitive with other people). But whatever. Like I said, my mistake was I didn't consider that people may have different preferences/goals in life - please don't make the same mistake when making judgements about me.
If, however, you have more specific ideas about what you want to do - say, you want to go into an ultracompetitive specialty like neurosurgery or plastics - going to a prestigious school is a lot more important if not crucial. It's about name recognition and connections.
I'm planning to go into one of the less competitive specialties, but I want to contribute to the progress of medicine, so I want to go to a school where I can do strong research and from which I will be able to go to one of the top residencies, so I can do the same. For my purpose, there is huge difference between schools, and not even because of prestige but more because of the opportunities they offer.
My mistake here was that I didn't take into account individual preferences of other people before making my statement about UTSW. And I apologize for that. But I will not apologize for wanting to study hard, work hard and achieve whatever it is I want to achieve. I don't care if you call me a gunner - though I think the word is often misused, as historically it meant someone who wanted to get ahead at the expense of other people, and this is certainly not me (I'm only competing with myself, i.e. I want to push myself hard and perform at the top of my abilities, but I'm actually very noncompetitive with other people). But whatever. Like I said, my mistake was I didn't consider that people may have different preferences/goals in life - please don't make the same mistake when making judgements about me.
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To me it's not what you said, but how you said it. I don't think you need to apologize for anything, I was just pointing out that your tone seemed a little critical although I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. I know you're excited about getting into the school you really want to go to, all I was saying is when you phrase things a certain way it does indeed seem a little disparaging. It's not at all a big deal, just something to think about.
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OK, I gotcha BlueLabel. The fact that the things I write may be interpreted more negatively than I originally meant may have something to do with English not being my first language. I don't have this problem in in person communication, but I guess I should be more careful in how I express myself online.
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Actually the reason that UTSW has that reputation is because other schools have built up that rumor. At FOUR of my interviews, atleast one or more med students, made it a point to to take a jab at UTSW and mention the "cutthroat" and gunnerish behavior of its students. It almost sounded like spite drawn from jealousy or envy.
When I interviewed at UTSW, I didnt hear one word about other schools and how UTSW was 'better' than them. Rather they spoke of their own program and opportunities. The students were laidback and honest. They were very upfront about the rigor of their courseload and how it seemed to be harder than what their friends were learning at other schools.
As far as arrogrance goes, I will defer to what @histidine said. There will be a large majority of people who pick UTSW over other schools, but very few who do the opposite.
While I generally agree with your statement, the bolded section I think is a bit exaggerated.
There are many students from other schools who get into competitive specialties too, although I'm sure that a school's name and networking potential can help.
Prematched to UTSW but will not be ranking it first based on how I feel. I completed a SURF and am currently working here now, but do not wish to continue here. In general, the med students are great and are not underhanded and I do share Gandalf's feelings that UTSW seemed to be disparaged at one interview in particular. The networking you can do in these hospitals is endless and there are some absolutely stellar opportunities to get involved in "top notch" while in medical school. You will also see some exceptional cases at Parkland which may be unobtainable elsewhere (still stochastic but whatever). In seems to be that most common trauma cases that are on the news in DFW, next thing you see is "TAKEN TO PARKLAND" which would undoubtedly be a neat way to learn as you have interesting and challenging cases being flown in often. There are also phenomenal lectures from name brand institutions regularly on north campus from name brand universities/hospitals. The most recent interesting one lately was a lecture series from the ER physician who worked on Kennedy after the assassination.
My decision to rank it lower going into the match is based on personal fit, traffic, and the attitudes of faculty. To me, they are a great institution and they know it. In my experiences, the atmosphere among faculty members is absolutely cutthroat, far more so than the school. This is due to their rapid development over the past couple of decades. They are all indisputably committed to climbing ranks, grants, and helping the school develop and ascend in rank. I have not directly had negative interactions or any kind of HR nonsense with them. I just decided based on experiences and observations that this is not an attitude that I wish to immerse myself in for another four years.
But yes, absolutely, the name UTSW will aid you residency application. Sure, it will help you in your efforts to match into a more competitive specialty, but those gains in odds can't be quantified. It is my personal belief that the efforts we all put in shouldn't commit ourselves to attend the highest ranked school persay, but the efforts have given us the opportunity to have more choices in which medical insitution/program/location parallels our personal goals as a medical practitioner.
Sent from my phone so I hope this doesn't sound too tangential. I just have enjoyed the discussion you guys have been having and wished to put in two cents from someone who will be opting for a secondary option but is currently employed at the school.
My decision to rank it lower going into the match is based on personal fit, traffic, and the attitudes of faculty. To me, they are a great institution and they know it. In my experiences, the atmosphere among faculty members is absolutely cutthroat, far more so than the school. This is due to their rapid development over the past couple of decades. They are all indisputably committed to climbing ranks, grants, and helping the school develop and ascend in rank. I have not directly had negative interactions or any kind of HR nonsense with them. I just decided based on experiences and observations that this is not an attitude that I wish to immerse myself in for another four years.
But yes, absolutely, the name UTSW will aid you residency application. Sure, it will help you in your efforts to match into a more competitive specialty, but those gains in odds can't be quantified. It is my personal belief that the efforts we all put in shouldn't commit ourselves to attend the highest ranked school persay, but the efforts have given us the opportunity to have more choices in which medical insitution/program/location parallels our personal goals as a medical practitioner.
Sent from my phone so I hope this doesn't sound too tangential. I just have enjoyed the discussion you guys have been having and wished to put in two cents from someone who will be opting for a secondary option but is currently employed at the school.
