2014-2015 University of Southern California (Keck) Application Thread

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yaoigirl said:
I interviewed early September and still haven't heard back. I don't know if I've been placed on a weird silent hold status or they just haven't gotten around to rejecting me yet. I have a strong urge to call and find out what's going on but I don't wanna be that annoying person calling the office to check on their status. -_-
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I would call if I were you! At my interview day, Dean Arias told us the "no updates, no thank you notes, no more communication telling us how great you are because it won't matter" speech but she did say to go ahead and give them a call if we didn't hear back after 5 weeks. Interviewed in mid-November making my 5 weeks right around the Holidays. I think they all understand that we're unbearably anxious :bear:
 
Does anyone have any hotel suggestions? I've never been to LA before, so I want to see a bit of the city the day before.
 
I'm not sure if this has been asked, but does anyone know if they are receptive to pre-II updates?
 
UnawareTable9 said:
I'm not sure if this has been asked, but does anyone know if they are receptive to pre-II updates?
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Not sure about pre II updates, but on interview day the dean made it extremely clear they do not want post interview updates, LOI, thank you letters, etc. Prob safe to assume they don't want pre II updates either.
 
TheBestPath said:
ACCEPTED!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
IA: 12/2/14
IS ~3.9, MCAT 36
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One week turn around?!?!

I was at my interview this morning when the dean told us she was heading back to her office to send out acceptances. Congrats to everyone! USC is at the top of my list after interviewing there this morning!
 
waitlisted today :/. LizzyM 73. Congrats to those accepted!
 
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Anyone know when second look is?

Edit: according to last years thread USC didn't have a second look day last cycle.....
 
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giraffesuptop said:
Anyone know when second look is?

Edit: according to last years thread USC didn't have a second look day last cycle.....
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That's disappointing. I really REALLY liked Keck (especially the people) and was hoping for the second look to aid my final decision.
 
giraffesuptop said:
Anyone know when second look is?

Edit: according to last years thread USC didn't have a second look day last cycle.....
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Li'ana88 said:
That's disappointing. I really REALLY liked Keck (especially the people) and was hoping for the second look to aid my final decision.
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As I have previously posted, the Alumni Association (Salerni Collegium) hosted a second look event last year, and I would be surprised if they don't do it again this year.
 
skittles1 said:
As I have previously posted, the Alumni Association (Salerni Collegium) hosted a second look event last year, and I would be surprised if they don't do it again this year.
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Can't wait! I've been in love with this school since I was in high school. Wanted to be a Trojan for undergrad, but it wasn't an option at the time! Good luck to everyone still in the hunt.
 
giraffesuptop said:
@skittles1 @MalibuPreMD suggestions for housing? My interview tour guides said most students live in 1 or 2 particular areas but I can't remember the details.
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City View Apartments is one of the housing options near the school. There's also a dorm-like setup at Seaver Hall. There are more options, but I can't recall them. Hopefully, someone else can chime in.
 
Karasu said:
City View Apartments is one of the housing options near the school. There's also a dorm-like setup at Seaver Hall. There are more options, but I can't recall them. Hopefully, someone else can chime in.
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Do you remember if there are long waiting lists for city view or any other apartments you can think of?


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I'm guessing the next batch of decisions will be released either Jan 6 or Jan 13 (most likely 13th). Man, I hope I get some good news from them. Just tryna keep expectations low, as that makes life way easier.
 
GodComplex said:
Do you remember if there are long waiting lists for city view or any other apartments you can think of?


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Unfortunately, all I know is the name of the two locations and nothing else.
 
Hey everyone,

Attached is one of the new resources that the Salerni Collegium (our alumni association) has put together. It's a comprehensive guide to living in all the major Los Angeles neighborhoods. The new version will come out sometime later in the year, but ya'll can peruse for this one for now.

Also, I'm not sure if it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there were people wondering about a "second look day". The Salerni Collegium put on a great social event at a winery last year for the incoming class that was a pseudo-second look. If anyone is interested in why we no longer have an official Keck second look, it's because they prefer to spend money on the enrolled students. Simple as that. And they definitely shell out the cash for some great on campus events for us like free In - n - Out in the Quad, Oktoberfest with beer and brats, a welcome dinner at the Deans with amazing food and some fun games, and swanky a christmas party.
 

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Hey everyone,

Attached is one of the new resources that the Salerni Collegium (our alumni association) has put together. It's a comprehensive guide to living in all the major Los Angeles neighborhoods. The new version will come out sometime later in the year, but ya'll can peruse for this one for now.

Also, I'm not sure if it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but there were people wondering about a "second look day". The Salerni Collegium put on a great social event at a winery last year for the incoming class that was a pseudo-second look. If anyone is interested in why we no longer have an official Keck second look, it's because they prefer to spend money on the enrolled students. Simple as that. And they definitely shell out the cash for some great on campus events for us like free In - n - Out in the Quad, Oktoberfest with beer and brats, a welcome dinner at the Deans with amazing food and some fun games, and swanky a christmas party.
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Thanks for all that helpful info! Could you also comment on the curriculum at USC? I know the preclinical years are P/F, but is there also a class rank list? And how are the clinical years graded?

Idk why I never asked these at the interview...
 
giraffesuptop said:
Thanks for all that helpful info! Could you also comment on the curriculum at USC? I know the preclinical years are P/F, but is there also a class rank list? And how are the clinical years graded?

Idk why I never asked these at the interview...
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Hey Giraffe,

You probably don't want this much info, but I've talked to a lot of students considering many schools, so I've generated a lot of content which is easy for me to copy/paste. 🙂

The curriculum is "systems based" and a true P(70%)/F, with no internal ranking in the first 2 years. Year 3/4 are the typical Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail with (the last I heard over a year ago, so it's subject to change) a 10% cap in terms of percentage of people who can honor (which is average I believe - some schools set it as high as 5%). Grades in year 3/4 are determined by a combination of performance on shelf exams and how you perform in the rotations in terms of carrying out your duties. Each rotation is different is assigning relative importance of those two factors. AOA (national medical school honors) is awarded based on year 3/4 grades, research, community service, and leadership activities. Up to 16% of a class can achieve this.

The following is the breakdown for the "systems".

Year 1

Semester 1 = "Foundations of Medical Sciences 1, 2, and 3" (FMS)

FMS1 = Genetics, Biochemistry, Microanatomy (Cells), Biostatistics/Epidemiology - 100% of grade based on a multiple choice exam (MCE).

FMS2 = Microanatomy (Tissues) Pathology (Basics), Anatomy (Back and Thorax), Immunology, Pharmacology (Basics) - 80% of grade = MCE, 20% of grade = Gross Lab Practical (GLP)

FMS3 = Microbiology, Pathology (Neoplasia), Endocrinology (Basics), Physiology (Basics), Psychology - 100% of grade based on MCE.

Some notes on your first semester....
-Our MCEs are predominately board style questions (i.e. there's a patient vignette attached to the question)
-All of the FMS exams have practice midterms to gauge how you're doing midway through the block
-The "point" of FMS is to provide a foundation of information that when we look at each body system, we can apply that information. For example, when look at Neurosciences, we learn the gross anatomy, the functioning of the normal system, the pathology, histology, pharmacology, neoplasias, how it interacts with the endocrine system, and the infections all for that one system. This is in contrast to the "traditional" curriculum, which explores the "normal" for every system, and then it starts over again and looks at the "abnormal" for system.

Semester 2 =
Gastrointestinal/Liver + Abdominal Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Reproductive + Reproductive Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Neurosciences + Head and Neck Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Musculoskeletal + Muscle Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP

Year 2

Semester 1
-Cardiovascular - 100% MCE
-Pulmonary - 100% MCE
-Renal - 100% MCE
-Endocrine - 100% MCE

Semester 2
- Dermatology - 100% MCE
- Hematology - 100% MCE
- Infectious Disease - 100% MCE
- Integrative Cases (IC) - now that we've looked at all the systems, we take a completely different approach for about 1.5 months. We look at one symptom for an entire week (i.e. abdominal pain, headache, fatigue, etc.) ICS serves a dual purpose. It prepares you for boards and how to do a work up for the most common things you would be seeing in the clinics (the reason our students tend to do so well once they get into clinics and also on the boards).

After this we get about 5-6 weeks of board study time, which is awesome!

Year 3 = Required Clerkships
-Surgery + 6 weeks of Subspecialty Surgery OR 4 weeks of Neurology with 2 weeks of ER, Rads, Optho, Path, PM&R
-Internal Medicine
-Family Medicine
-Psychology
-OB/GYN
-Pediatrics

Year 4 = Selectives aka "the most expensive vacations you will ever take"- The possibilities are endless....Emergency Med, Anesthesiology, Dermatology, Critical Care, Humanities in Medicine, whatever interests you.

The only required rotations in 4th year are
- Sub-internship in medicine (i.e. cardiology, infectious disease, pulm/critical care, rheumatology, etc.)
- Surgical Sub-specialty if you didn't do it 3rd year
- Neurology if you didn't do it 3rd year

So finally....here we are my comments...Webcasting (video taping of live lectures) is a big plus for me. It gives me tremendous flexibility to "attend" lecture whenever I want. Let's say there's a conference I want to go to, research to perform, participating in the campus clubs, laying out in the beautiful Southern California weather, or w/e else. I can make it work. My class schedule fits "around" my life, it doesn't determine it.

Let's say you don't like lectures or don't like webcasting (these people surely exist)...there's free group tutoring from upper class men where we cover the most relevant materials for the test. You are also provided printed handouts and slides for all the lectures if you like that option better. In other words, it doesn't matter what type of learner you are, you are supported.

The only required activities that are held on a regular basis is Intro to Clinical Medicine and Practice of Professionalism in Medicine. I don't personally mind, since I love going into the hospital to see patients, do physical exams, write ups, and the chance to grapple with the touchy feely stuff in medicine.

"Problem based" and "small group" learning is incorporated into the curriculum, that covers the same information that is in lecture. These sessions are not required or crammed down your throat as the "revolutionary new style of learning". We're allowed to figure out what works with our grown up mind 😛....

In summary, I love the school and I love the curriculum, which is why I'm spending the time to write this novel! I could have just quoted Dr. Arias from my interview day..."The curriculum is good." 🙂
 
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oogachaka said:
How unlikely/likely is it for people to still get interviews this late? I'm pretty much prepared for a rejection, but just wondering if I should have any hope at all
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I don't know if all the spots have been filled but, we interview through Feb 18th. If there are cancellations, which happens a lot more toward the end of the interview cycle, spots open up. Our Dean is not shy about rejecting people, so if you haven't got word there's still a chance!
 
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Swartzlehman said:
Hey Giraffe,

You probably don't want this much info, but I've talked to a lot of students considering many schools, so I've generated a lot of content which is easy for me to copy/paste. 🙂

The curriculum is "systems based" and a true P(70%)/F, with no internal ranking in the first 2 years. Year 3/4 are the typical Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail with (the last I heard over a year ago, so it's subject to change) a 10% cap in terms of percentage of people who can honor (which is average I believe - some schools set it as high as 5%). Grades in year 3/4 are determined by a combination of performance on shelf exams and how you perform in the rotations in terms of carrying out your duties. Each rotation is different is assigning relative importance of those two factors. AOA (national medical school honors) is awarded based on year 3/4 grades, research, community service, and leadership activities. Up to 16% of a class can achieve this.

The following is the breakdown for the "systems".

Year 1

Semester 1 = "Foundations of Medical Sciences 1, 2, and 3" (FMS)

FMS1 = Genetics, Biochemistry, Microanatomy (Cells), Biostatistics/Epidemiology - 100% of grade based on a multiple choice exam (MCE).

FMS2 = Microanatomy (Tissues) Pathology (Basics), Anatomy (Back and Thorax), Immunology, Pharmacology (Basics) - 80% of grade = MCE, 20% of grade = Gross Lab Practical (GLP)

FMS3 = Microbiology, Pathology (Neoplasia), Endocrinology (Basics), Physiology (Basics), Psychology - 100% of grade based on MCE.

Some notes on your first semester....
-Our MCEs are predominately board style questions (i.e. there's a patient vignette attached to the question)
-All of the FMS exams have practice midterms to gauge how you're doing midway through the block
-The "point" of FMS is to provide a foundation of information that when we look at each body system, we can apply that information. For example, when look at Neurosciences, we learn the gross anatomy, the functioning of the normal system, the pathology, histology, pharmacology, neoplasias, how it interacts with the endocrine system, and the infections all for that one system. This is in contrast to the "traditional" curriculum, which explores the "normal" for every system, and then it starts over again and looks at the "abnormal" for system.

Semester 2 =
Gastrointestinal/Liver + Abdominal Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Reproductive + Reproductive Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Neurosciences + Head and Neck Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Musculoskeletal + Muscle Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP

Year 2

Semester 1
-Cardiovascular - 100% MCE
-Pulmonary - 100% MCE
-Renal - 100% MCE
-Endocrine - 100% MCE

Semester 2
- Dermatology - 100% MCE
- Hematology - 100% MCE
- Infectious Disease - 100% MCE
- Integrative Cases (IC) - now that we've looked at all the systems, we take a completely different approach for about 1.5 months. We look at one symptom for an entire week (i.e. abdominal pain, headache, fatigue, etc.) ICS serves a dual purpose. It prepares you for boards and how to do a work up for the most common things you would be seeing in the clinics (the reason our students tend to do so well once they get into clinics and also on the boards).

After this we get about 5-6 weeks of board study time, which is awesome!

Year 3 = Required Clerkships
-Surgery + 6 weeks of Subspecialty Surgery OR 4 weeks of Neurology with 2 weeks of ER, Rads, Optho, Path, PM&R
-Internal Medicine
-Family Medicine
-Psychology
-OB/GYN
-Pediatrics

Year 4 = Selectives aka "the most expensive vacations you will ever take"- The possibilities are endless....Emergency Med, Anesthesiology, Dermatology, Critical Care, Humanities in Medicine, whatever interests you.

The only required rotations in 4th year are
- Sub-internship in medicine (i.e. cardiology, infectious disease, pulm/critical care, rheumatology, etc.)
- Surgical Sub-specialty if you didn't do it 3rd year
- Neurology if you didn't do it 3rd year

So finally....here we are my comments...Webcasting (video taping of live lectures) is a big plus for me. It gives me tremendous flexibility to "attend" lecture whenever I want. Let's say there's a conference I want to go to, research to perform, participating in the campus clubs, laying out in the beautiful Southern California weather, or w/e else. I can make it work. My class schedule fits "around" my life, it doesn't determine it.

Let's say you don't like lectures or don't like webcasting (these people surely exist)...there's free group tutoring from upper class men where we cover the most relevant materials for the test. You are also provided printed handouts and slides for all the lectures if you like that option better. In other words, it doesn't matter what type of learner you are, you are supported.

The only required activities that are held on a regular basis is Intro to Clinical Medicine and Practice of Professionalism in Medicine. I don't personally mind, since I love going into the hospital to see patients, do physical exams, write ups, and the chance to grapple with the touchy feely stuff in medicine.

"Problem based" and "small group" learning is incorporated into the curriculum, that covers the same information that is in lecture. These sessions are not required or crammed down your throat as the "revolutionary new style of learning". We're allowed to figure out what works with our grown up mind 😛....

In summary, I love the school and I love the curriculum, which is why I'm spending the time to write this novel 🙂
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😱 wow that was so much valuable information! Thank you so much! After learning so much about the curriculum I'm even more excited to matriculate in august🙂
 
Swartzlehman said:
Hey Giraffe,

You probably don't want this much info, but I've talked to a lot of students considering many schools, so I've generated a lot of content which is easy for me to copy/paste. 🙂

The curriculum is "systems based" and a true P(70%)/F, with no internal ranking in the first 2 years. Year 3/4 are the typical Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail with (the last I heard over a year ago, so it's subject to change) a 10% cap in terms of percentage of people who can honor (which is average I believe - some schools set it as high as 5%). Grades in year 3/4 are determined by a combination of performance on shelf exams and how you perform in the rotations in terms of carrying out your duties. Each rotation is different is assigning relative importance of those two factors. AOA (national medical school honors) is awarded based on year 3/4 grades, research, community service, and leadership activities. Up to 16% of a class can achieve this.

The following is the breakdown for the "systems".

Year 1

Semester 1 = "Foundations of Medical Sciences 1, 2, and 3" (FMS)

FMS1 = Genetics, Biochemistry, Microanatomy (Cells), Biostatistics/Epidemiology - 100% of grade based on a multiple choice exam (MCE).

FMS2 = Microanatomy (Tissues) Pathology (Basics), Anatomy (Back and Thorax), Immunology, Pharmacology (Basics) - 80% of grade = MCE, 20% of grade = Gross Lab Practical (GLP)

FMS3 = Microbiology, Pathology (Neoplasia), Endocrinology (Basics), Physiology (Basics), Psychology - 100% of grade based on MCE.

Some notes on your first semester....
-Our MCEs are predominately board style questions (i.e. there's a patient vignette attached to the question)
-All of the FMS exams have practice midterms to gauge how you're doing midway through the block
-The "point" of FMS is to provide a foundation of information that when we look at each body system, we can apply that information. For example, when look at Neurosciences, we learn the gross anatomy, the functioning of the normal system, the pathology, histology, pharmacology, neoplasias, how it interacts with the endocrine system, and the infections all for that one system. This is in contrast to the "traditional" curriculum, which explores the "normal" for every system, and then it starts over again and looks at the "abnormal" for system.

Semester 2 =
Gastrointestinal/Liver + Abdominal Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Reproductive + Reproductive Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Neurosciences + Head and Neck Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP
Musculoskeletal + Muscle Anatomy - 80% MCE, 20% GLP

Year 2

Semester 1
-Cardiovascular - 100% MCE
-Pulmonary - 100% MCE
-Renal - 100% MCE
-Endocrine - 100% MCE

Semester 2
- Dermatology - 100% MCE
- Hematology - 100% MCE
- Infectious Disease - 100% MCE
- Integrative Cases (IC) - now that we've looked at all the systems, we take a completely different approach for about 1.5 months. We look at one symptom for an entire week (i.e. abdominal pain, headache, fatigue, etc.) ICS serves a dual purpose. It prepares you for boards and how to do a work up for the most common things you would be seeing in the clinics (the reason our students tend to do so well once they get into clinics and also on the boards).

After this we get about 5-6 weeks of board study time, which is awesome!

Year 3 = Required Clerkships
-Surgery + 6 weeks of Subspecialty Surgery OR 4 weeks of Neurology with 2 weeks of ER, Rads, Optho, Path, PM&R
-Internal Medicine
-Family Medicine
-Psychology
-OB/GYN
-Pediatrics

Year 4 = Selectives aka "the most expensive vacations you will ever take"- The possibilities are endless....Emergency Med, Anesthesiology, Dermatology, Critical Care, Humanities in Medicine, whatever interests you.

The only required rotations in 4th year are
- Sub-internship in medicine (i.e. cardiology, infectious disease, pulm/critical care, rheumatology, etc.)
- Surgical Sub-specialty if you didn't do it 3rd year
- Neurology if you didn't do it 3rd year

So finally....here we are my comments...Webcasting (video taping of live lectures) is a big plus for me. It gives me tremendous flexibility to "attend" lecture whenever I want. Let's say there's a conference I want to go to, research to perform, participating in the campus clubs, laying out in the beautiful Southern California weather, or w/e else. I can make it work. My class schedule fits "around" my life, it doesn't determine it.

Let's say you don't like lectures or don't like webcasting (these people surely exist)...there's free group tutoring from upper class men where we cover the most relevant materials for the test. You are also provided printed handouts and slides for all the lectures if you like that option better. In other words, it doesn't matter what type of learner you are, you are supported.

The only required activities that are held on a regular basis is Intro to Clinical Medicine and Practice of Professionalism in Medicine. I don't personally mind, since I love going into the hospital to see patients, do physical exams, write ups, and the chance to grapple with the touchy feely stuff in medicine.

"Problem based" and "small group" learning is incorporated into the curriculum, that covers the same information that is in lecture. These sessions are not required or crammed down your throat as the "revolutionary new style of learning". We're allowed to figure out what works with our grown up mind 😛....

In summary, I love the school and I love the curriculum, which is why I'm spending the time to write this novel 🙂
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Thank you so so much!
 
ConsultantMD said:
Sorry to hear about these rejections... I'm still waiting for mine! It's crazy to think that we're coming to the end...
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I knew mine had to be coming any day.... I'm expecting my interview season to be over, but maybe that's not true. I don't know. I hope that you get an II instead of a rejection pretty soon here 🙂
 
ConsultantMD said:
Sorry to hear about these rejections... I'm still waiting for mine! It's crazy to think that we're coming to the end...
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I've been complete since 7/20 and nothing but silence since then. Maybe we'll be the beneficiaries of someone else's last minute interview cancelation?

The cycle is indeed winding down, and it's a little unnerving and feels like a bit of a letdown. I miss the days when people were telling others to calm down; it's okay if you haven't gotten an interview yet because it's still so early in the cycle! It's funny to think that most of the correspondence we receive from medical schools here on out will be rejections rather than interview invites. (Though hopefully some of that correspondence will include acceptance and scholarship notifications as well!)

My application cycle has gone better than I initially could have imagined, but it's still a sore point for me that I haven't gotten any interviews in California. (Yes, I know that the CA schools are competitive for all applicants, and I am out-of-state, but I have gotten interviews at all but one Midwestern school that I applied to, including a few top 25s, yet nothing from out West.) I went to undergrad in California and have lots of friends there, plus I prefer their weather this time of year. I desperately want to take a trip out there, but I have continually postponed doing so in hopes of landing an ever-elusive California interview. I have decided that if I don't hear anything from CA by the end of this month, I am booking myself a plane ticket out there just for the heck of it!

...But, hope springs eternal, and maybe I will finally have the chance to plan my California trip around an interview at USC.😍:xf:
 
Kelilah said:
I've been complete since 7/20 and nothing but silence since then. Maybe we'll be the beneficiaries of someone else's last minute interview cancelation?

The cycle is indeed winding down, and it's a little unnerving and feels like a bit of a letdown. I miss the days when people were telling others to calm down; it's okay if you haven't gotten an interview yet because it's still so early in the cycle! It's funny to think that most of the correspondence we receive from medical schools here on out will be rejections rather than interview invites. (Though hopefully some of that correspondence will include acceptance and scholarship notifications as well!)

My application cycle has gone better than I initially could have imagined, but it's still a sore point for me that I haven't gotten any interviews in California. (Yes, I know that the CA schools are competitive for all applicants, and I am out-of-state, but I have gotten interviews at all but one Midwestern school that I applied to, including a few top 25s, yet nothing from out West.) I went to undergrad in California and have lots of friends there, plus I prefer their weather this time of year. I desperately want to take a trip out there, but I have continually postponed doing so in hopes of landing an ever-elusive California interview. I have decided that if I don't hear anything from CA by the end of this month, I am booking myself a plane ticket out there just for the heck of it!

...But, hope springs eternal, and maybe I will finally have the chance to plan my California trip around an interview at USC.😍:xf:
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You could always book a trip & then send an "in the area" inquiry. Might be worth a try...
 
What time does the 10am interview session get over? I wanted to explore LA a little bit before my flight that night.
 
A quick logistics question: is it pretty easy to catch a free shuttle from the interview location to Union Station? It seems like it from the USC website but I'm wanting to make sure I read it correctly.
 
USC doesn't reject post-interview, right?
 
Just got waitlisted. Interviewed on 1/6/15. Good luck to everyone else!
 
+1 for waitlist. Interviewed 1/7/15. I thought Dr. Arias said we'd have to wait 5 weeks for decisions... its been only 6 days :eyebrow:
 
Accepted!!! OOS, interviewed 12/9, and it was my last interview invite too. Been a little bummed that the majority of my top choices either rejected me or continue to ignore me......but USC (and the thought of finally moving from the Midwest to SoCal) is a dream come true!

I was expecting a phone call since I thought that's what the dean did, but I received an email instead, just as a heads up for others.

EDIT: Sorry to hear about the waitlists, especially so soon after the interview. Maybe spots are tightening up since it seems like the application season is closing? I really hope you all find a spot somewhere though!
 
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