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LobsterGuy said:
I'm really apprehensive about starting here after what several students have stated. Can someone post an example of their syllabus or class schedule?
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My friend, as I've said earlier, it's not mine or anyone else's intention to scare incoming students. I wanted to shed light on the realities of the flipped classroom as it's currently implemented at Touro. It is too inefficient, too dysfunctional to remain silent. You are almost being set up for failure because it is impossible to stay caught up with all of your subjects. That is unacceptable. Part of the problem, I believe, is too few people speak out against it. Many people just survive and then move on. Less than half the class does the course evaluations. As for survival strategies, use every Jewish holiday, and every non-test weekend to get as far ahead as possible. DO NOT waste any free time. DO NOT put your schoolwork off and take it easy when you have some time off. You will regret it. Perhaps you might try partnering up with other students where each of you take notes for one or two subjects and then swap notes. That would save a lot of time but you need to be a really good note taker and be committed to doing that all year.
 
ActuallyMadeIt said:
My friend, as I've said earlier, it's not mine or anyone else's intention to scare incoming students. I wanted to shed light on the realities of the flipped classroom as it's currently implemented at Touro. It is too inefficient, too dysfunctional to remain silent. You are almost being set up for failure because it is impossible to stay caught up with all of your subjects. That is unacceptable. Part of the problem, I believe, is too few people speak out against it. Many people just survive and then move on. Less than half the class does the course evaluations. As for survival strategies, use every Jewish holiday, and every non-test weekend to get as far ahead as possible. DO NOT waste any free time. DO NOT put your schoolwork off and take it easy when you have some time off. You will regret it. Perhaps you might try partnering up with other students where each of you take notes for one or two subjects and then swap notes. That would save a lot of time but you need to be a really good note taker and be committed to doing that all year.
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I'm sure it's not your or anyone else's intention, but rather an unintended consequence of sharing negative views. I appreciate the strategies you've provided and I'll follow them!
 
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Former masters student here. Just to echo, the key for me was keeping up with videos. Then, before the tests, using the objectives list as my bible/Quran for studying. Biochem and anatomy will put out a “study guide” before each test, really just slightly rehashed objectives, but whatever. In my experience, this was exactly the material that was on the exams, no more and no less. Some of the objectives are quite broad but the “review guide” really helps to narrow your focus.

For Histo, quiz yourself on images ad nauseum. Take good notes if Dr. Vidal is lecturing because he includes almost no info on the PowerPoint. Go see Dr. Bruno for extra help or just to chat about Game of Thrones. He is an excellent professor and possibly an even better dancer.

For Biochem, you have the benefit of being taught by Dr. Panini who literally wrote a widely-used book. His roasts are brutal but he is one of the sharpest and best-organized professors I’ve ever had. Everything on Biochem exams will be from the slides. I loved this class because the expectations were so clearly defined. Also, Drs. Kamath and Panini would come into their offices the Sunday before exams and answer questions for 4-5 hours. That’s dedication. That’s supportive faculty.

Physiology. Wow. Dr. Fischer is a riot. You may love him or hate him. His videos range from improvised song to recitations of Rumi to clinical pearls. It’s kind of like having somebody who has had a few drinks tell you about what’s in Costanzo. Entertaining but he occasionally forgets to mention things, which is fine because you can just cross check with Costanzo. On campus at Middletown you have Drs. Shah and Martin. They are fantastic. Dr. Shah is incredibly sweet and intelligent. He has infectious energy and I loved going to his classes and clickers. Dr. Martin has a gift for simplifying concepts and making them easily digestible. He is a real asset for cardio. Go see him during office hours and bring questions or talk about your gains at the gym. He has an interesting background in exercise physiology so if that interests you, check out his google scholar page.

Ah...anatomy. This course (for the Fall at least) was kind of a crap show. The lectures are mainly by Harlem faculty or by Dr. Lobo who is no longer at Touro. Frankly, I found this course very frustrating because of the disconnect between the videos, the clicker/supplemental staff and the lab. I feel like Dr. Moorman and Ms. Rosenthal could do a great job of running their own anatomy course—they are both excellent resources. However, the Harlem faculty and dear departed Dr. Lobo kind of muddy the waters. Again, trust the review sheet and study that material exclusively for the exams. Make sure you can identify all the basic/obvious structures on every single cadaver. Most of the tags during practicals were very straightforward, so don’t waste too much time in lab digging for obscure stuff that no one can really identify. Use the lists provided for plastination and z Space.

I would say don’t stress over watching all the anatomy videos in great detail. Personally, the videos helped me very little in anatomy and I learned more by exploring the structures in lab, on computer and when doing problems. After I was familiar with the ideas, a well-curated second pass of certain sections of video was useful.

Dr. Moorman is a bit eccentric but he is a good resource and will take time to help you if you go to his office hours. Also, he writes a significant fraction of the exam questions so pay attention when he is rambling on about how he remembers to stretch his sartorious or whatever.

Ms. Rosenthal may seem a little cold but I think she is a young professor and likes to cultivate a, um, highly professional relationship with students. She’s super smart and willing to help you in lab or in her office. Again, she will play a big role in tagging structures for the practical so pay attention to the things that she points out.

For those who are committed to Middletown, I just wanted to lay out some of my observations so you have an insight into the “human factors” of the school. I ended up getting an acceptance to another school without mandatory attendance and flipped classroom, so I jumped on that and didn’t return for the spring semester. Touro’s major strength is the faculty. The curriculum and the administration could use some work, but I found in my short time there that the students were engaged and supportive of each other and the faculty was truly caring. Good luck you guys!
 
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This deal would be difficult if we didn't have clickers at all. But since we do, it's like trying to go through medical school with a part-time job. You're damn right it's frustrating that all my free time is essentially stolen and that my grade and education is harmed because I'm spending hours participating in an utterly fruitless activity. You're damn right it's frustrating that every single exam is a cycle of cram and purge, cram and purge. I've retained shockingly little, especially in subjects like micro/immuno where your word association skills can get you a B. One more month and this punishment is over...
 
Does anyone know about the computer requirements for Touro? Is it better to get an ipad or an android tablet of some sort?
 
er12345 said:
Does anyone know about the computer requirements for Touro? Is it better to get an ipad or an android tablet of some sort?
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You need a laptop. Tablet alone will not do. A lot of people have both.
 
Are stethoscopes needed first semester? My parents really want to get me one as a gift lol...
 
1styearboi said:
For exams you need a computer, not a tablet for the software. A lot of people have Mac's. Also many people will have iPad or other tablet that they take notes with, take to PD and OMM, etc.
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I have a Surface Pro 6. Will that work?
 
BobbyKoch said:
Former masters student here. Just to echo, the key for me was keeping up with videos. Then, before the tests, using the objectives list as my bible/Quran for studying. Biochem and anatomy will put out a “study guide” before each test, really just slightly rehashed objectives, but whatever. In my experience, this was exactly the material that was on the exams, no more and no less. Some of the objectives are quite broad but the “review guide” really helps to narrow your focus.

For Histo, quiz yourself on images ad nauseum. Take good notes if Dr. Vidal is lecturing because he includes almost no info on the PowerPoint. Go see Dr. Bruno for extra help or just to chat about Game of Thrones. He is an excellent professor and possibly an even better dancer.

For Biochem, you have the benefit of being taught by Dr. Panini who literally wrote a widely-used book. His roasts are brutal but he is one of the sharpest and best-organized professors I’ve ever had. Everything on Biochem exams will be from the slides. I loved this class because the expectations were so clearly defined. Also, Drs. Kamath and Panini would come into their offices the Sunday before exams and answer questions for 4-5 hours. That’s dedication. That’s supportive faculty.

Physiology. Wow. Dr. Fischer is a riot. You may love him or hate him. His videos range from improvised song to recitations of Rumi to clinical pearls. It’s kind of like having somebody who has had a few drinks tell you about what’s in Costanzo. Entertaining but he occasionally forgets to mention things, which is fine because you can just cross check with Costanzo. On campus at Middletown you have Drs. Shah and Martin. They are fantastic. Dr. Shah is incredibly sweet and intelligent. He has infectious energy and I loved going to his classes and clickers. Dr. Martin has a gift for simplifying concepts and making them easily digestible. He is a real asset for cardio. Go see him during office hours and bring questions or talk about your gains at the gym. He has an interesting background in exercise physiology so if that interests you, check out his google scholar page.

Ah...anatomy. This course (for the Fall at least) was kind of a crap show. The lectures are mainly by Harlem faculty or by Dr. Lobo who is no longer at Touro. Frankly, I found this course very frustrating because of the disconnect between the videos, the clicker/supplemental staff and the lab. I feel like Dr. Moorman and Ms. Rosenthal could do a great job of running their own anatomy course—they are both excellent resources. However, the Harlem faculty and dear departed Dr. Lobo kind of muddy the waters. Again, trust the review sheet and study that material exclusively for the exams. Make sure you can identify all the basic/obvious structures on every single cadaver. Most of the tags during practicals were very straightforward, so don’t waste too much time in lab digging for obscure stuff that no one can really identify. Use the lists provided for plastination and z Space.

I would say don’t stress over watching all the anatomy videos in great detail. Personally, the videos helped me very little in anatomy and I learned more by exploring the structures in lab, on computer and when doing problems. After I was familiar with the ideas, a well-curated second pass of certain sections of video was useful.

Dr. Moorman is a bit eccentric but he is a good resource and will take time to help you if you go to his office hours. Also, he writes a significant fraction of the exam questions so pay attention when he is rambling on about how he remembers to stretch his sartorious or whatever.

Ms. Rosenthal may seem a little cold but I think she is a young professor and likes to cultivate a, um, highly professional relationship with students. She’s super smart and willing to help you in lab or in her office. Again, she will play a big role in tagging structures for the practical so pay attention to the things that she points out.

For those who are committed to Middletown, I just wanted to lay out some of my observations so you have an insight into the “human factors” of the school. I ended up getting an acceptance to another school without mandatory attendance and flipped classroom, so I jumped on that and didn’t return for the spring semester. Touro’s major strength is the faculty. The curriculum and the administration could use some work, but I found in my short time there that the students were engaged and supportive of each other and the faculty was truly caring. Good luck you guys!
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Hi
I have a question, if you can guide me , how important the CASPER test result?
 
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Current OMS-I and SGA....

I'm coming on here because SGA members were recently told about what was being said on these forums.
Before I begin though, Congratulations to everyone who has been accepted! Anyone who is on the wait list, keep sending those emails every couple weeks to Frank Rose.
Even though finals are starting now, I hope to get on here as much as possible to answer any questions anyone has.

Lets begin...

Flipped classrooms:
We are given all our videos weeks in advance. You're expected to watch the videos for that respected class and to be prepared for the discussion and clicker questions. These classes are mandatory because they make up 10% of your class grade. You can choose to come or not. If you don't mind getting B's, go for it. The flipped classroom method actually isn't as bad as people think. Individuals mostly have a problem with the mandatory aspect of it all.
You have to make good of what is given. Many students actually keep up with videos and do their best to get as much as they can from class. I personally don't keep of with videos and exam chase. But this works for me and may not work for others. Everyone is different.
As far as getting things changed, it is not fair to say SGA is "ineffective". SGA is constantly receiving concerns and ideas from the student body and we are always having meetings with Administration to see what can be done. We also work with other groups such as the curriculum committee to make sure the concerns are presented. Everyone needs to understand that since Middletown campus is an extension of Harlem, any major changes at either campus need to be approved by the other. It is very difficult to completely change a curriculum for two campuses. We have been working hard with the Harlem SGA, and other campuses that have a similar curriculum, to gather all the information and research we need, to present to the administration in hopes of having certain things changed. I can keep going on about the teaching style, but that'll take a lot of time. If you have any specific questions please post here or private message me.

Exams:
Exams are almost every Monday starting about 5 weeks into the beginning of each semester. First semester there is at most 2 exams per week. There will be a 2-3 week span where we have 2-3 per week. This is counting OSCE and OMM practicals as an exam, which most students only practice for the night before. Second semester there are more exams. It starts off light but then increases to 2 exams per week, then a couple months with 2-3 again (due to OSCE and OMM). Some people flourish, others have difficulty with the schedule. Yes, classes will make you tired, but you got some Mondays, and all Fri-Sun off. You need to study hard. This isn't undergrad or even some of your Master's classes. No matter where you go, you will be study mostly all day, everyday. I have friends in schools all over the country (MD and DO) with no mandatory classes, and they have their struggles too. The difference at Touro is going to be the community. No one is trying to take others out. Everyone is constantly posting all the resources we can to help each other out. You may have your cliques, but everyone is still looking out for each other.

On-Campus Housing:
Affordable - Yes
Utilities - All included. Only pay for laundry ($1.25/wash, $1/dry)
Fully Furnished - Yes, (only need mini-fridge)
Gym - Yes. For residents only. Uses face recognition for entrance. 24 hours. Small, but enough for the basic/intermediate work-out needs.
Showers - Shared and always being cleaned. You can pay extra for a larger room that includes a shower
Wifi - Not the best. I'm at the edge of the building, but I still can do all the streaming I want. We had an issue during an outage. Communication issues caused a delay in getting it fixed, but was taken care of.
Study rooms - Usually only full when all OMS1, OMS2, and Master's have an exam around the same time.
Kitchen - Buy a conduction pan from Walmart or amazon and you'll be fine. Custodians do the best they can to clean the kitchens. They are literally cleaning the kitchens multiple times a day, but they aren't going to throw away your $50 electrical appliance you left out without cleaning. Its dirty because of certain student. Do your part to keep things clean, and hold the others accountable. I suggest making a Group Me group for the people on your floor to communicate concerns.
Convenience - A++....On multiple occasions I get a call from friends at 8:00 am, waking me up, to get to class. I'm in my seat within 5 minutes. Get to know your classmates well. Always are in the loop for any events or outings that will be going on. Good way of avoiding the FOMO we all suffer from.

If you don't want to deal with any of this, there is great off-campus housing. New apartments always being built and great houses for rent. There is a facebook page for that.

Administration and Faculty:
I can honestly say that the faculty here is incredible. They are all friendly and go out of their to help you anyway they can. The professors are always listening to student concerns with scheduling, and when possible, will move things around to accommodate our needs. This is usually great when we got a tough exam coming up and need more time to study. Class Reps, SGA, and Curriculum Committee do a great job keeping a good relationship between students and faculty to allow for these changes to happen. As SGA, I get to speak with administration on a daily basis. I can honestly say they are the easiest people to talk to. Before SGA, I like many other, were intimidated. Like anything else in life, keep the conversation professional and you'll be fine.
The faculty and professors are also very involved in our events. You will have many opportunities to talk to them outside of the classroom setting and realize how great they are. I mean the Dean of the school plays basketball with us everyone weekend in the mornings, and help put together matches against other medical/health professional schools in New York (that he plays in).

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There is plenty of topics I'm not able to hit in this post, so if you have any questions, please ask!
Let the facts, not opinions, help in your final decision. Hope everyone finds the school that brings the best out of you.
Good Luck on your journey!

- please excuse any spelling errors.
 
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ashahbaz said:
Current OMS-I and SGA....

I'm coming on here because SGA members were recently told about what was being said on these forums.
Before I begin though, Congratulations to everyone who has been accepted! Anyone who is on the wait list, keep sending those emails every couple weeks to Frank Rose.
Even though finals are starting now, I hope to get on here as much as possible to answer any questions anyone has.

Lets begin...

Flipped classrooms:
We are given all our videos weeks in advance. You're expected to watch the videos for that respected class and to be prepared for the discussion and clicker questions. These classes are mandatory because they make up 10% of your class grade. You can choose to come or not. If you don't mind getting B's, go for it. The flipped classroom method actually isn't as bad as people think. Individuals mostly have a problem with the mandatory aspect of it all.
You have to make good of what is given. Many students actually keep up with videos and do their best to get as much as they can from class. I personally don't keep of with videos and exam chase. But this works for me and may not work for others. Everyone is different.
As far as getting things changed, it is not fair to say SGA is "ineffective". SGA is constantly receiving concerns and ideas from the student body and we are always having meetings with Administration to see what can be done. We also work with other groups such as the curriculum committee to make sure the concerns are presented. Everyone needs to understand that since Middletown campus is an extension of Harlem, any major changes at either campus need to be approved by the other. It is very difficult to completely change a curriculum for two campuses. We have been working hard with the Harlem SGA, and other campuses that have a similar curriculum, to gather all the information and research we need, to present to the administration in hopes of having certain things changed. I can keep going on about the teaching style, but that'll take a lot of time. If you have any specific questions please post here or private message me.

Exams:
Exams are almost every Monday starting about 5 weeks into the beginning of each semester. First semester there is at most 2 exams per week. There will be a 2-3 week span where we have 2-3 per week. This is counting OSCE and OMM practicals as an exam, which most students only practice for the night before. Second semester there are more exams. It starts off light but then increases to 2 exams per week, then a couple months with 2-3 again (due to OSCE and OMM). Some people flourish, others have difficulty with the schedule. Yes, classes will make you tired, but you got some Mondays, and all Fri-Sun off. You need to study hard. This isn't undergrad or even some of your Master's classes. No matter where you go, you will be study mostly all day, everyday. I have friends in schools all over the country (MD and DO) with no mandatory classes, and they have their struggles too. The difference at Touro is going to be the community. No one is trying to take others out. Everyone is constantly posting all the resources we can to help each other out. You may have your cliques, but everyone is still looking out for each other.

On-Campus Housing:
Affordable - Yes
Utilities - All included. Only pay for laundry ($1.25/wash, $1/dry)
Fully Furnished - Yes, (only need mini-fridge)
Gym - Yes. For residents only. Uses face recognition for entrance. 24 hours. Small, but enough for the basic/intermediate work-out needs.
Showers - Shared and always being cleaned. You can pay extra for a larger room that includes a shower
Wifi - Not the best. I'm at the edge of the building, but I still can do all the streaming I want. We had an issue during an outage. Communication issues caused a delay in getting it fixed, but was taken care of.
Study rooms - Usually only full when all OMS1, OMS2, and Master's have an exam around the same time.
Kitchen - Buy a conduction pan from Walmart or amazon and you'll be fine. Custodians do the best they can to clean the kitchens. They are literally cleaning the kitchens multiple times a day, but they aren't going to throw away your $50 electrical appliance you left out without cleaning. Its dirty because of certain student. Do your part to keep things clean, and hold the others accountable. I suggest making a Group Me group for the people on your floor to communicate concerns.
Convenience - A++....On multiple occasions I get a call from friends at 8:00 am, waking me up, to get to class. I'm in my seat within 5 minutes. Get to know your classmates well. Always are in the loop for any events or outings that will be going on. Good way of avoiding the FOMO we all suffer from.

If you don't want to deal with any of this, there is great off-campus housing. New apartments always being built and great houses for rent. There is a facebook page for that.

Administration and Faculty:
I can honestly say that the faculty here is incredible. They are all friendly and go out of their to help you anyway they can. The professors are always listening to student concerns with scheduling, and when possible, will move things around to accommodate our needs. This is usually great when we got a tough exam coming up and need more time to study. Class Reps, SGA, and Curriculum Committee do a great job keeping a good relationship between students and faculty to allow for these changes to happen. As SGA, I get to speak with administration on a daily basis. I can honestly say they are the easiest people to talk to. Before SGA, I like many other, were intimidated. Like anything else in life, keep the conversation professional and you'll be fine.
The faculty and professors are also very involved in our events. You will have many opportunities to talk to them outside of the classroom setting and realize how great they are. I mean the Dean of the school plays basketball with us everyone weekend in the mornings, and help put together matches against other medical/health professional schools in New York (that he plays in).

------

There is plenty of topics I'm not able to hit in this post, so if you have any questions, please ask!
Let the facts, not opinions, help in your final decision. Hope everyone finds the school that brings the best out of you.
Good Luck on your journey!

- please excuse any spelling errors.
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Hey, man. Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experience with us. Really helpful to hear from current students.

Some people in this thread have discussed the low board passage rates at the Middletown campus, in particular a 15% failure rate for both PE and CE takers. Since you talk to the administrators regularly, do you know if they have any thoughts on this matter or any plans to address it?
 
HaveAnOsteoblast said:
Hey, man. Thank you very much for taking the time to share your experience with us. Really helpful to hear from current students.

Some people in this thread have discussed the low board passage rates at the Middletown campus, in particular a 15% failure rate for both PE and CE takers. Since you talk to the administrators regularly, do you know if they have any thoughts on this matter or any plans to address it?
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No problem. I just hope I can get on often to help.

To start off, the school takes our physical diagnosis class very seriously. Dr. Z, who runs the class, puts a lot of effort and passion into teaching the course. She makes sure we learn everything there is to learn about the topics they teach. With this said, we for some reason get low scores in those sections.
Based on talks with some admins, it seems that specifically the section that has to do with patient empathy/rapport is low.

Dr. Z makes a strong effort in making sure during every lecture and lab to mention that rapport/trust/patient comfort is of utmost importance. But this doesn't always transfer to our OSCEs. Right now our OSCEs are designed to show that we know the material, understand how to recognize issues, and what normal and abnormal findings are. Due to time-limits we cant always add in extra conversation to build rapport. We aren't really graded on that during the OSCE, so we mostly word-vomit to make sure we are hitting all the points we need. This does not mean we don't learn that we need to be empathetic though. I think the problem then lies in to the students holding on to this habit when it comes time for the boards. But that's just my view on the issue.

I am not 100%, but I believe that they will be changing things up next year for both the 2nd years and incoming 1st years. They know there is a problem and are actively working to see what might work and are making changes to fix that problem on the boards.

Hope this helps!
 
Does anyone know the recent average comlex score(s) for this school? Their website only has pass rates
 
Hey y'all, I'm on the waitlist and I've been contacting Frank a bunch. Do you know if there's anything else I can include in my emails other than mentioning that I'm continuously interested in attending? I sent the school an update letter recently. I feel like my emails are just super brief just expressing interest in attending and asking about my waitlist status.
 
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Hey y'all, I'm on the waitlist and I've been contacting Frank a bunch. Do you know if there's anything else I can include in my emails other than mentioning that I'm continuously interested in attending? I sent the school an update letter recently. I feel like my emails are just super brief just expressing interest in attending and asking about my waitlist status.
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More or less what I’ve been doing too. My guess is we won’t start seeing movement until Wednesday at the earliest when the 2nd deposit is due. Also likely that seats will open up because they hold seats for all of the Masters kids until they don’t make the cut grades wise or commit elsewhere.
 
It appears that MD waitlists are moving more slowly than in years past (because of AAMC policy changes regarding multiple acceptance reports), so that may translate to slower DO waitlist movement :\
 
studentDODO said:
Avoid the dorms, here is the FB for off campus housing. Housing & Buying/Selling - TouroCOM Middletown
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Everyone has had there good and bad experiences. Everyone's situation is also different. Convenience due to no car, also coming from out-of-state and having to sell all the furniture after leaving here. There is a lot to consider. I've lived in off-campus housing before from undergrad, and have experienced some same and different problems as well.

Overall look at your situation and go from there.

Applying4Funzies said:
More or less what I’ve been doing too. My guess is we won’t start seeing movement until Wednesday at the earliest when the 2nd deposit is due. Also likely that seats will open up because they hold seats for all of the Masters kids until they don’t make the cut grades wise or commit elsewhere.
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You're doing everything right. Just keep sending those email.

Also, the Masters student pretty much know who is in or not, maybe with exception of a couple students. They already graduated on Monday.

Mjd0155 said:
Does anyone know the recent average comlex score(s) for this school? Their website only has pass rates
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I'll try and find the info. Just busy.
 
Hi all
just want to know do we need medical check and back ground check if yes, than how we start the process
 
KF1228 said:
Any waitlist movement?
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The earliest will be tomorrow if then. The second deposit is due today so they wouldn't revoke any unpaid seats until tomorrow and then whenever after that they make decisions on who to pull of the list.
 
medicinepassion1 said:
Average video lecture time per week? How hard to study during clickers?
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Average video lecture time depends on the individual. Total hours of video come out to ~20 hours per week, but note that some students breeze through them for a first pass and rewatch, most watch them at 1.5x-2x speed, others take hours (for me it was 3 hr per 1 hour video to take notes and confirm comprehension) and never rewatch. Others don't watch them at all and use other resources, which doesn't work as well in first year as it does in second year.

Not sure what you mean about how hard to study during clickers. You don't necessarily have to prepare for them since it's all discussion.
 
medicinepassion1 said:
How hard to study during clickers?
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It's hard to study for other classes during clickers because it's such a distracting environment. Another word of advice I would give is do whatever you have to do to learn this material. That is what we are here for but it is very easy to forget that fact when things get crazy. Do whatever you have to do to learn and acquire this knowledge, even if it means sacrificing clickers. F*** them. They get you nowhere. You do not want to have to relearn all this content as you study for boards because you crammed it and forgot it first year. It's a shame that this curriculum is so hostile toward student's efforts at learning but that is how it is. Touro is a new school and it will likely be years before they have something that resembles a decent curriculum. If you're gunning for a really competitive specialty, then you will want your preclinical grades to be as high as possible. But for most of us, I think learning this content and crushing boards are the main priorities.
 
Missed the Zoom presentation cus of a family event. Anybody know if they’ll be emailing us a recording of it?
 
HaveAnOsteoblast said:
Missed the Zoom presentation cus of a family event. Anybody know if they’ll be emailing us a recording of it?
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I thought I saw it was being recorded based on a record button that was on the screen the whole time, so you can ask Frank if they have it available. Good information but I have a feeling we will be hearing it again during orientation week.
 
Musculo said:
I’m glad you got another acceptance since you seemed to have lot of reservations with going here!
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I admittedly did have some concerns. But at the end of the day, the students at Touro seem happy and most wind up being successful, Was never my intention to throw any shade at the school, and I wish everybody the best of luck.
 
HaveAnOsteoblast said:
I admittedly did have some concerns. But at the end of the day, the students at Touro seem happy and most wind up being successful, Was never my intention to throw any shade at the school, and I wish everybody the best of luck.
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No I definitely understand certain styles not being the best for all students. So best of luck to you at your other school!!
 
ActuallyMadeIt said:
It's hard to study for other classes during clickers because it's such a distracting environment. Another word of advice I would give is do whatever you have to do to learn this material. That is what we are here for but it is very easy to forget that fact when things get crazy. Do whatever you have to do to learn and acquire this knowledge, even if it means sacrificing clickers. F*** them. They get you nowhere. You do not want to have to relearn all this content as you study for boards because you crammed it and forgot it first year. It's a shame that this curriculum is so hostile toward student's efforts at learning but that is how it is. Touro is a new school and it will likely be years before they have something that resembles a decent curriculum. If you're gunning for a really competitive specialty, then you will want your preclinical grades to be as high as possible. But for most of us, I think learning this content and crushing boards are the main priorities.
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I want to add a caveat to this statement. Missing too many clickers will definitely have a negative impact on your grade. The school will tell you that you can miss two classes without penalty. This is somewhat misleading. What really happens is they take the average number of questions asked per clicker session, double it, and then subtract that number from the total number of graded questions. Your final grade is the ratio of the number of questions you answered correctly and the total number of graded questions. So if the two classes you miss exceed double the average number of questions, you are still penalized for missing those questions and every single question thereafter. Only full semester courses allow "2 missed absences". Courses like Anatomy II and Neuro only allow one. Be familiar with this policy from the outset. It's all in the student handbook. I am finding out way too late that missing clickers is harming my grade more than I thought.
 
Any waitlist movement recently? i see a few people dropped their A's but surprisingly quite
 
Looking for a male roommate to share a room with. If anyone is still looking for a place to live, in Middletown, I'm sharing my room with anyone who is willing, in a 4 bedroom house. The house is brand new with 3.5 bathrooms. The kitchen is fully furnished, and there is a washing machine and a drying machine. Parking is easily accessible on the street, and the house is located 10 minutes walking distance from campus. Total rent will be $400 per month. If any guys are interested in this offer, please feel free to message me.
 
Anyone pulled off the waitlist recently?

Also Frank is out of the office till July 8th. Is there anyone else I can reach out to? I never get replies from the TouroCOM admissions team lol
 
Anyone able to reach Dean Rose? On the waitlist and no news. Wish they would just tell me if i even have a chance or not
 
Did anyone else get an email from Touro? It said that movement is very slow and you might not get off the waitlist. As well as if you have an acceptance elsewhere you should take it 🙁
 
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