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Interview Feedback: University of Florida College of Medicine

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Hi everyone! I'm a current MS3 at UF COM. I interviewed at almost every school in Florida to ultimately land here and haven't regretted it for a second. UF has far exceeded my expectations in helping me achieve my career goals, and I don't think I ever knew it was possible to enjoy medical school as much as I have before coming here.

I'm happy to answer any questions!
 
Hi everyone! I'm a current MS3 at UF COM. I interviewed at almost every school in Florida to ultimately land here and haven't regretted it for a second. UF has far exceeded my expectations in helping me achieve my career goals, and I don't think I ever knew it was possible to enjoy medical school as much as I have before coming here.

I'm happy to answer any questions!

What sets UF COM apart from the other Florida medical schools, in your opinion? Thanks!
 
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What sets UF COM apart from the other Florida medical schools, in your opinion? Thanks!

Great question that merits a very detailed response. I'll do the best that I can but hopefully some M1/M2s can chime in with more detail.

1. The culture. Administration really espoused student wellness, and before my interview I figured it was the same as with every other medical school - I assumed they talked about it but didn't actually do anything about it other than mandated "wellness" events that actually take time away from studying and stress us out more. After meeting current students at my interview I could tell that wasn't the case and that the school as a whole really meant it. Students just seemed really happy. Administration was very down-to-earth and friendly. The faculty are very involved and really happy to have students around. I didn't know that attending neurosurgeons and pediatric surgeons had the time to chat with us, but they do!

2. Academic strength and the extent of interaction with faculty. This was probably the biggest one for me. UFCOM has residency programs in literally every field except for physical medicine & rehabilitation, and also has TWO programs within many fields due to additional residency programs in Jacksonville. That means we have academic/teaching attendings and residents in every field. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's actually a huge deal. I was taught how to place central lines by attending anesthesiologists. Taught how to suture by an attending plastic surgeon. Taught how to intubate (on a dummy) by an attending pulm/crit ICU doc. Taught how to place pedicle screws for spine fusions, drill Burr holes in the cranium, and place ventriculostomies (again, dummies) by attending neurosurgeons. The attendings all love students and have been teaching for years. They are more than happy to show you what they do, how to do it, and let you get your hands dirty.

3. Residency prospects. Going off #2, because we have residency programs in everything, we have direct access to program directors and department chairs for letters of recommendation and career advice. The residency match has a LOT more to do with who you know than medical school admissions. Letters of rec can make or break you (although Step 1 scores reign supreme -more on that later), especially with smaller and more competitive specialties. In smaller fields, all of the PDs and chairs know each other. For many of these residencies, you have to collect a number of LORs and sometimes do sub-internship rotations ("aways") as well. Being able to get letters from academic physicians who are well known in the community is vital. Having a home program for competitive fields is a huge deal.

4. Clinical education. Again, going off #2. Clinical years are very strong. Shands in Gainesville is a big hospital with lots of patients (over 1,000 beds not including the VA). During clinical rotations you are most often going to be 1-on-1 with an attending, and occasionally 2-on-1. At some schools you actually have to compete with other med students for patients or time with the attendings - not here. Lots of teaching opportunities, lots of chances to get your hands dirty. UF in Gainesville has 5 hospitals - Shands ("North tower"), Cancer Hospital ("South tower"), a Children's Hospital (attached to North Tower), a new Heart-Vascular-Neuromedicine hospital ("HVN or East tower"), and the VA. There's also Shands Jacksonville, and Nemours/Wolfson for Pediatrics. Both centers are Level 1 trauma, transplant, stroke, MI, and burn centers. Huge tertiary/quaternary care catchment area in Gainesville. Jacksonville is a massive safety net hospital, meaning we will see and treat anyone that the private hospitals didn't want to. Students go on organ procurement runs for transplants (think private jet across the country). Scrub in on conjoined twin separations, neonatal heart transplants, brain tumor excisions, cerebral aneurysm repairs, aortic aneurysm repairs, whatever. Insanely complex patients. Residents from other hospitals people that our floor patients would be in the IMCU/ICU at other institutions. You will see just about everything in medicine there is to see here.

5. The facilities. Brand new medical school building, brand new hospital (HVN tower). Simulation centers. Great study spaces.

6. Pre-clinical curriculum is great. True pass/fail, recorded and non-mandatory lectures. Weekly required activities including standardized patients and small group session (ethics taught by a JD or PhD biomedical ethicist, radiology taught by an attending radiologist, etc). Systems-based curriculum. Lots of study resources provided by prior classes.

7. Research. Research opportunities are everywhere, as expected. Scholarship-funded medical student research program between the summer of M1-M2, where PIs literally submit their projects to the program requesting a medical student. There are more projects than there are medical students, and many people end up just reaching out to faculty asking to start their own project instead. If you aren't interested in doing research, that's fine too because it's optional. Take the summer off if you prefer.

8. Pre-clinical clinical exposure. Kind of a hot topic. When I was a pre-med I wanted lots of clinical exposure, but med students on SDN always talked about how it was a waste of time. I felt like we strike a really good balance here. After your first semester you get a 2-week preceptorship in primary care where you get to see a patient alone, take a history and physical, and present to an attending (who you work with 1-on-1) exactly like you'll be doing 3rd year. You also get 1 week of specialty preceptorship of your choice in Spring of M1, and another week in M2. These are great for working on your career choice. I did surgical sub specialties both times and got to scrub for every case and be first assist to the surgeon. I'm not talking about scrubbing in and then observing across two residents with your hands on the table, nor am I talking about holding a retractor for a few hours. I personally closed incisions, placed IVs, placed catheters, drained abscesses, taken biopsies, helped resect cancers, stop hemorrhage, anastomose bowel, repair fractures, etc - all during preclinical years. Imagine how much experience you'll get on rotations.

This is what I can think of on top of my head. I'm between patients right now, so I may edit this post when I think of more to add.
 
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8. Pre-clinical clinical exposure. Kind of a hot topic. When I was a pre-med I wanted lots of clinical exposure, but med students on SDN always talked about how it was a waste of time. I felt like we strike a really good balance here. After your first semester you get a 2-week preceptorship in primary care where you get to see a patient alone, take a history and physical, and present to an attending (who you work with 1-on-1) exactly like you'll be doing 3rd year. You also get 1 week of specialty preceptorship of your choice in Spring of MS1, and another week in MS2. These are great for working on your career choice. I did surgical subspecialties both times and got to scrub for every case and play first assist. Suturing, laparoscopy, taking out pieces of colon, etc, etc. Before being on clinical years.

This is a big draw for me, and I'm mentioning it in many of my other secondaries. I really want early clinical experiences, glad to hear UF does this.
 
This is a big draw for me, and I'm mentioning it in many of my other secondaries. I really want early clinical experiences, glad to hear UF does this.

Clinical experience scattered in the pre-clinical years is fun and it's a great way to stay grounded and keep everything you learn in context. With that said, it's definitely possible to have too much. If it were mixed in with mandatory lectures and lots of other assignments/busy work, I can definitely see why people would hate it because it would keep you from studying and take away from free time. I didn't feel like that was the case here. The first preceptorship is actually planned very nicely because it comes right after your first semester of M1. During that first semester, the first part of the Intro to Clinical Medicine course will cover broad topics like taking a history, how to perform a systemic physical exam, oral presentations, and some early medical decision making. This will all get reinforced in depth during systems, but you learn enough to be competent and practice those skills in the clinic on real patients.

And to add further, aside from the curricular elements of clinical experience, faculty really enjoy having M1-M2s on service with them. So if you want to shadow in your free time to figure out what you want to go into, all you have to do is shoot off an email and you can be in clinic, on the wards, or in the OR seeing patients and getting involved.
 
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Secondary received! Essay prompts:

Please limit your response to 250-500 words
  1. If you are not a full-time student during this application cycle, in particular at any time between September 2018 and May 2019, please detail your current and planned activities below.

Please limit your response to 250-500 words
The medical profession is frequently described as being both a science and an art. One could summarize this by saying that patients must “be well cared for” (science) but they must also “feel well cared for” (art). Indeed, the late physician, writer and ethicist, Dr. Edmund Pelegrino affirms both the science and art of medicine. But when discussing the nature of the physician/patient relationship he says the following, “The act specific to medicine, that which makes it medicine and thereby distinguishes it from both science and art, is the decision about what is right and good for a particular patient now, with this set of needs, arising out of this particular illness…It is the practical decision, taken in the best interest of a particular person, not in the interest of new knowledge, of society or of the physician.” We work to teach our students not only the scientific principles of medicine, but also the core values of medicine, often called “professionalism”. Toward this end we keep patients at the center of our education and often reflect on their stories with our students.

  • 2. The exciting advances in our understanding of the biological basis for disease have led to the emergence of a host of targeted therapies and amazing technologies improving the duration and quality of our patients’ lives. The better a physician knows his/her patient, the better decisions they will make together as they approach important healthcare related questions. This so-called shared decision-making model is one key feature of patient centered care. Practicing the art of medicine in this way yields a physician patient relationship (PPR) that is both therapeutic and mutually enriching. However, many of these same technologies have the unintended consequence of separating us from our patients, both literally and figuratively. In addition, the industrialization of medicine and use of electronic health records have led to a decrease in the time physicians spend with their patients further eroding the strength of the PPR. At the UFCOM, we have numerous strategies to equip our students to preserve their own humanity and that of their patients. As students make connections with and get to know their patients, they begin to experience the joy in medical practice. They also have the chance to consider ways that the forces mentioned above can rob a physician of that joy. As they share their stories, they encourage one another to make deliberate choices to preserve what we might call the heart or soul of the profession. Read these reflections from two third year students, one about a memorable encounter with a patient and the patient’s daughter and the second a very moving poem where a student explores the importance of taking time to be quiet and alone despite the busyness of our lives. She also considers the potentially dark consequences of neglecting this important practice. After reading and reflecting upon them, write an essay about what you will do to “never lose the human side of yourself,” treat your future patients as you would a family member, and thereby preserve the soul of medicine.

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  • 3. Many hours in medical school are appropriately spent pursuing knowledge and skills needed to practice medicine. Medical students must master an enormous amount of information, synthesize it into a workable understanding of the human body, and then discern the best way to translate such knowledge into decisions with individual patients. However, governing this process are larger philosophical questions such as, “What does it mean to be human?” In his 1748 work, “Man as Machine”, French physician and philosopher Julien Offray de La Mettrie argues that humans are nothing more than complex animals. In contrast, many others would suggest there are psychological, social, emotional and spiritual dimensions to being human that are no less important than the biological, and perhaps even more important. Whatever our answers to these questions, those answers will have an impact on what we think it means to be a healthy human.

    Below are two brief quotations, one from the Greek philosopher Plato and the other from Sir William Osler (1849-1919), widely regarded as one of the fathers of modern medicine. Read and reflect upon them and then choose one for an essay. Please address whether or not you agree with the author, why you do or do not, and how your conclusion might affect the way you practice as a physician.
    "Variability is the law of life, and as no two faces are the same, so no two bodies are alike, and no two individuals react alike and behave alike under the abnormal conditions which we know as disease." -William Osler"The greatest mistake in the treatment of diseases is that there are physicians for the body and physicians for the soul, although the two cannot be separated." -Plato
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For the UF Application for Professional Admissions that they make you do first, how do we input two majors and what do they mean by undergraduate specialization?
 
For the UF Application for Professional Admissions when it asks "Have you ever submitted an application to the University of Florida?" do we have to say yes if we applied there for undergraduate or does it only mean professional schools?
 
Secondary received! Good luck everyone! 🙂


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For the UF Application for Professional Admissions when it asks "Have you ever submitted an application to the University of Florida?" do we have to say yes if we applied there for undergraduate or does it only mean professional schools?
I put yes because I applied for undergrad, I think they mean applications overall
 
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I am confused about the independent or dependent status. If we have a bachelors, does that automatically categorize us as independent even if we don't have a job or pay bills?
 
I'm having trouble locating my UFID after completing the UF graduate school application. Anyone been able to find this?
 
I am confused about the independent or dependent status. If we have a bachelors, does that automatically categorize us as independent even if we don't have a job or pay bills?
I don't think so, I think it's more about the 50% or more income part and if your parents claim you as a dependent on their taxes
 
For the UF Application for Professional Admissions that they make you do first, how do we input two majors and what do they mean by undergraduate specialization?
Not sure about the first question, but for the second question do you have a specific track that you are taking? For example, I think I'm going to put my specialization is Pre-Professional since that's what it says on my degree audit and it's the "track" I'm on.
 
Anyone else confused on what they want in the Activities section of the Professional Schools Application?
I think they mean the activities you will be doing before matriculating into med school? Correct me if I am wrong, please.
 
Same here. There is no arrow next to my name on the status page
do they mean the collegenetID because that comes up on my finished professional application but I don't see and UFID
 
Have you ever submitted an application to the University of Florida?

Have you ever attended the University of Florida?

as someone who was denied here out of HS, answering these two questions back to back brought back some bad memories, lol. Maybe this time!
 
Have you ever submitted an application to the University of Florida?

Have you ever attended the University of Florida?

as someone who was denied here out of HS, answering these two questions back to back brought back some bad memories, lol. Maybe this time!

Same lol! Maybe we have better luck this time.
 
Have you ever submitted an application to the University of Florida?

Have you ever attended the University of Florida?

as someone who was denied here out of HS, answering these two questions back to back brought back some bad memories, lol. Maybe this time!

Same lol! Maybe we have better luck this time.

Same thing happened to me, but I made it here all the same.
 
So I completed the Professional School, but don't see my UFID. Where is the inverted arrow we click
 
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I couldn't find the mystical arrow either, but I found my ID by doing the following:
1. clicking on the link found at the end of question four of the personal info portion of the secondary application
2. Clicking on the "Apply Online" link of the Online Application Menu
3. Clicking on the "View by HTML" link under the "University of Florida Application for Professional Admissions"
4. Looking at HTML view of your application, the top left corner will say
"Form UFLPROF submitted by xxxxxxxx on [date and time of submision]"
5. I believe the eight digit number in that statement is the UFID because it appears as part of the order ID on the receipt for the payment as well
 
So I completed the Professional School, but don't see my UFID. Where is the inverted arrow we click
I couldn't find the mystical arrow either, but I found my ID by doing the following:
1. clicking on the link found at the end of question four of the personal info portion of the secondary application
2. Clicking on the "Apply Online" link of the Online Application Menu
3. Clicking on the "View by HTML" link under the "University of Florida Application for Professional Admissions"
4. Looking at HTML view of your application, the top left corner will say
"Form UFLPROF submitted by xxxxxxxx on [date and time of submision]"
5. I believe the eight digit number in that statement is the UFID because it appears as part of the order ID on the receipt for the payment as well
 
I used the collegenet ID on the pdf of my application. It was like a 777xxxxx number.
 
go to this site "one.uf.edu/applicant" and login with the info that you used for the professional application and then click check application status and there is a down arrow next to your name and that's where the UFID is
 
What should we put down under the activities section on the first UF Professional Schools Application.

"List how you have spent or plan to spend your time before entering UF (employment, travel, military, etc) while not enrolled in college.
 
go to this site "one.uf.edu/applicant" and login with the info that you used for the professional application and then click check application status and there is a down arrow next to your name and that's where the UFID is
Thank you! I would have had the wrong ID
 
What should we put down under the activities section on the first UF Professional Schools Application.

"List how you have spent or plan to spend your time before entering UF (employment, travel, military, etc) while not enrolled in college.
since I'm not taking a gap year, I just put that I would work next summer after graduating, I figured they have my AMCAS activities section so it probably doesn't matter much
 
go to this site "one.uf.edu/applicant" and login with the info that you used for the professional application and then click check application status and there is a down arrow next to your name and that's where the UFID is
do i sign in using gatorlink the collegenet id option? i tried both and neither will let me use my email and password from the professional application site
 
Has anyone else not been able to upload a picture? The rest of my application is done but the upload button doesn't do anything I can't submit without it :/
 
Has anyone else not been able to upload a picture? The rest of my application is done but the upload button doesn't do anything I can't submit without it :/
When clicking upload, make sure you click the word “upload” not a different area of the button
 
do i sign in using gatorlink the collegenet id option? i tried both and neither will let me use my email and password from the professional application site
Bump to this. I tried using gatorlink and wasn't able to check status. I think tried college net ID and it wouldn't even let me log in, just took me to a site saying I have no app. Anyone able to provide guidance?
 
Just missed a call from here from the admissions office. Waiting for them to call back but a new interview line popped up in my portal and says it's not yet scheduled.

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Interview Invite!!!! 😀 😀
Literally my top choice super excited! 🙂 🙂 🙂 I love that they call it made it feel super personal
 
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Hi everyone! I'm a current MS3 at UF COM. I interviewed at almost every school in Florida to ultimately land here and haven't regretted it for a second. UF has far exceeded my expectations in helping me achieve my career goals, and I don't think I ever knew it was possible to enjoy medical school as much as I have before coming here.

I'm happy to answer any questions!

Thank you for reaching out! OOS here and wondering if UF discriminates strongly against OOS students with virtually no ties to FL. Any insight is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
 
Thank you for reaching out! OOS here and wondering if UF discriminates strongly against OOS students with virtually no ties to FL. Any insight is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

They do take a few applicants out of state but it's relatively much smaller % of their class. Like out of 2500 apps they matriculate 25 people so you might have better options in terms just pure chance. Def still go for it if you feel like you are competitive and a good fit 😀

Edit: Oops sorry just saw you were asking a former student haha sorry about that
 
Congrats on II guys!
This is definitely one of my top 3 schools.
Hoping my 508 MCAT doesnt kill my chances here
 
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