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Yes (to bolded).
I can only see how many accepted students are holding other acceptances. I can't see who they are.
Only the AAMC can tell who they are. They have told us that they will send "gentle reminders" to them.

"you SHOULD be able to see which of your accepted and wait listed applicants have chosen PTE or CTE at both your school"

I get the AAMC is incompetent. I get that they don't care about ADCOMs and applicants. But I don't see how a policy like this wouldn't be in their best interest...

Am i missing something?

Or is it really as sick as "they want re-application fees from students desperately waiting for a spot off the wait list" ?
 
previous lurker (yikes sorry) it's fine though because all I have to add are 4 more depressing WL 🙂beaver🙂. Anywho, I am planning on giving my top choice school an update/ letter of 'please accept me'. I'm thinking I probably should avoid a letter of intent because I don't have any acceptances to leverage that against?? Any thoughts or advice as to what I should include to show continued interest and err away from desperation?
I don’t think a LOI is bad, even without other acceptances (that’s what I did actually, still on 2 WL at the moment). If you want to send a “please accept me” letter, make sure you’re writing about why the school is your favorite and unique, and what you can contribute both to the academic/clinical student body and the community the school serves.
 
My WL schools can see that I have no acceptances right? I was going to ask them for advice for reapplying but I don't want to willingly give them info that may or may not have negative impact on me getting in this cycle. Idk if no acceptances is even a negative I just don't want to risk it.
 
My WL schools can see that I have no acceptances right? I was going to ask them for advice for reapplying but I don't want to willingly give them info that may or may not have negative impact on me getting in this cycle. Idk if no acceptances is even a negative I just don't want to risk it.

I really don’t understand why there is a notion that WL applicants with no acceptances are less desirable. Firstly, each school has specific mission and values they look for that differ from others. Secondly, if the apple in front of me appears delicious to me, why should I care what others feel about it?
 
I really don’t understand why there is a notion that WL applicants with no acceptances are less desirable. Firstly, each school has specific mission and values they look for that differ from others. Secondly, if the apple in front of me appears delicious to me, why should I care what others feel about it?
I totally agree with you that my lack of acceptances shouldnt matter. But apparently Im not that great of an apple if I'm sitting on four waitlist with no acceptances
 
Yes (to bolded).
I can only see how many accepted students are holding other acceptances. I can't see who they are.
Only the AAMC can tell who they are. They have told us that they will send "gentle reminders" to them.

Thanks again for the very fast response. Your experience is contrary to what AAMC advertises on its "Timeline: What Applicants and Medical Schools Can Do and When" tab on its CYMS web page. The table I copied and posted clearly states that you could "run detailed reports to identify [your] accepted and alternate-list applicants who have selected "Plan to Enroll" or "Commit to Enroll" at [your] school versus another school." (Bold added!) I am just an inexperienced pre-med trying to educate myself about this process, but it seems pretty clear that you should be able to run a report to identify the offenders.

On the other hand, the more I think about it, the more I realize gamers and cheaters holding more than one acceptance are really a small part of your (and the wait listed folks') problem. The bigger issue is with PTE not being binding, and with you not having visibility into where your PTE admittees are wait listed, you have no basis on which to make decisions regarding your wait list, and won't until less than 3 weeks before school starts. This is never going to be fixed unless and until you go back to something resembling the MAR. You should probably consider moving the CTE deadline to something earlier than 21 days before classes start, just to add a little sanity to the process, both so you can know your class is set and so people coming in off wait lists can make plans in a fashion at least a little less chaotic than an emergency evacuee!! 🙂
 
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I totally agree with you that my lack of acceptances shouldnt matter. But apparently Im not that great of an apple if I'm sitting on four waitlist with no acceptances

i get what you mean. its human nature to look at someone that isnt wanted by others and wonder why lol
 
Im not that great of an apple
Dont say that. Its a grind to even get to this point and think about how many people are rejected rather than waitlisted. During my feedback session they told me that being on a waitlist is a sign that they would have accepted me but had a lot of talented applicants they couldnt turn down. If it is a straight rejection it is more clear you have definitive things you can work on but a waitlist means slight tweaks could get you over the finish line.
 
Dont say that. Its a grind to even get to this point and think about how many people are rejected rather than waitlisted. During my feedback session they told me that being on a waitlist is a sign that they would have accepted me but had a lot of talented applicants they couldnt turn down. If it is a straight rejection it is more clear you have definitive things you can work on but a waitlist means slight tweaks could get you over the finish line.
yea I know you're right but it's really easy to lose perspective and hope
 
Yes (to bolded).
I can only see how many accepted students are holding other acceptances. I can't see who they are.
Only the AAMC can tell who they are. They have told us that they will send "gentle reminders" to them.

This is pretty interesting. It's like a nice reminder that you may lose up to -X- students so be prepared for the worst. In those cases, I would assume schools have already selected who they expect to come off the waitlist.

That's such an odd situation. "I known one of you may be a traitor." Sounds harsh, but I picture it like saying "I promise not to leave" and giving away your car key but you have an extra key and a pair of running shoes in your trunk?????
 
My WL schools can see that I have no acceptances right? I was going to ask them for advice for reapplying but I don't want to willingly give them info that may or may not have negative impact on me getting in this cycle. Idk if no acceptances is even a negative I just don't want to risk it.

Yes and no. They can see that you haven't PTE'd or CTE'd anywhere, but, strictly speaking, they can't see your acceptances (or lack thereof). If for some reason you were accepted somewhere but not required to at least PTE to that school by now (maybe they just don't require it, or maybe you literally just got off a wait list, and you haven't yet had to respond), they wouldn't know that you have an acceptance and would probably assume you have no acceptances when you, in fact, have one!
 
Hello 🙂. Would it make a difference to a school, especially a top one, if I were to list the institutions I have been accepted at or received scholarships for, and said that I would turn them all down if accepted? I sent my last update over a month ago, and have been assuming that if they were going to accept me, they would have done so by now.

(I’m not hoarding acceptances. I narrowed down to one before April 30th, but have been blessed enough to receive more offers since then).

@gyngyn
 
I really don’t understand why there is a notion that WL applicants with no acceptances are less desirable. Firstly, each school has specific mission and values they look for that differ from others. Secondly, if the apple in front of me appears delicious to me, why should I care what others feel about it?

It’s basic game theory.
 
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Wow. Just got my first accepted of the cycle out of nowhere! So stoked!!!

I am very happy for you.

Hello 🙂. Would it make a difference to a school, especially a top one, if I were to list the institutions I have been accepted at or received scholarships for, and said that I would turn them all down if accepted? I sent my last update over a month ago, and have been assuming that if they were going to accept me, they would have done so by now.

(I’m not hoarding acceptances. I narrowed down to one before April 30th, but have been blessed enough to receive more offers since then).

@gyngyn

I think that can be purposeful information that may assist the school in making a decision for you.
 
Hello 🙂. Would it make a difference to a school, especially a top one, if I were to list the institutions I have been accepted at or received scholarships for, and said that I would turn them all down if accepted? I sent my last update over a month ago, and have been assuming that if they were going to accept me, they would have done so by now.

(I’m not hoarding acceptances. I narrowed down to one before April 30th, but have been blessed enough to receive more offers since then).

@gyngyn
Listing them is off-putting. I have seen well-worded emails, though.
 
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On the hand, the more I think about it, the more I realize gamers and cheaters holding more than one acceptance are really a small part of your (and the wait listed folks') problem. The bigger issue is with PTE not being binding, and with you not having visibility into where your PTE admittees are wait listed, you have no basis on which to make decisions regarding your wait list, and won't until less than 3 weeks before school starts. This is never going to be fixed unless and until you go back to something resembling the MAR. You should probably consider moving the CTE deadline to something earlier than 21 days before classes start, just to add a little sanity to the process, both so you can know your class is set and so people coming in off wait lists can make plans in a fashion at least a little less chaotic than an emergency evacuee!! 🙂
There were only two accepted students holding multiple acceptances today. There may be a way to determine exactly who they are but it matters little right now. You are right. The big issue is the large proportion of PTE. I really don't like the idea of trapping people with an early CTE. I think we will wait to see how this all pans out before making a decision for next year.
 
There were only two accepted students holding multiple acceptances today. There may be a way to determine exactly who they are but it matters little right now. You are right. The big issue is the large proportion of PTE. I really don't like the idea of trapping people with an early CTE. I think we will wait to see how this all pans out before making a decision for next year.


How is this any different than previous years then? Vast majority of applicants now only hold one acceptance. What extra good would a multiple acceptance report do at this point if effectively all of your students hold only one acceptance?

In previous cycles, wouldn’t most students have essentially been “PTE” at this point.
 
There were only two accepted students holding multiple acceptances today. There may be a way to determine exactly who they are but it matters little right now. You are right. The big issue is the large proportion of PTE. I really don't like the idea of trapping people with an early CTE. I think we will wait to see how this all pans out before making a decision for next year.

Once again, thank you very much for the thoughtful response. I love that you are sensitive to trapping candidates with early commitments, and am having trouble wrapping my head around how convoluted this process is for both schools and candidates. It seems as though the MAR worked well in optimizing results for everyone. Now, I think you are probably correct insofar as while earlier CTE dates would make planning easier for everyone, having a school such as yours start that process would only initiate an arms race in which all schools would eventually follow, leaving everyone right where they are now, only earlier in the year!

The real problem here is that where it now stands, neither schools not candidates will be able to optimize their results, as students will be forced to CTE where they are accepted before they hear from a wait list where they would much rather attend, and schools will be left pulling students off the wait list who have no other acceptances (good for those students, but possibly less than optimal for the schools). As collegiality between the schools breaks down if and when they start poaching CTE students from each other, the irony is that you could be left with a system, created out of a fear of AAMC being sued over the MAR, that results in schools suing each other for inducing students to break legally binding CTE commitments, if, in the worst case, lower ranked (or hgher net cost) schools end up with empty seats if their students are poached last minute by higher ranked (or lower net cost) schools.

I really don't see how this works well going forward without a functionally equivalent replacement for the MAR.
 
Yes.
It's the waitlist that is uninterpretable now.
Oh, so you’re saying you cannot tell how many students on the waitlist have acceptances elsewhere/have PTE’d or CTE’d at other schools? Does this information factor in to the decision of which students to accept from the waitlist?
 
Oh, so you’re saying you cannot tell how many students on the waitlist have acceptances elsewhere/have PTE’d or CTE’d at other schools? Does this information factor in to the decision of which students to accept from the waitlist?
We can tell who is N/A, PTE and CTE but that does little to help with waitlist mangement.
You might have CTE applicants who would be happy to attend and PTE's who are a long shot.
 
We can tell who is N/A, PTE and CTE but that does little to help with waitlist mangement.
You might have CTE applicants who would be happy to attend and PTE's who are a long shot.

It's still unclear where the confusion lies....

In previous years, were you able to see where a WL applicant was "PTE"?

I'm assuming that its difficult at the moment to pull from the WL because you can't see if a student's PTE is "Preferable."
I don't really understand though why someone would remain on the WL for a school if they're not interested in attending it over their current school.

Would it help adcoms if students sent updates saying "I'm PTE at XX school, but I'd prefer to go to your school because reasons... not to disparage XX school." ?
 
@gyngyn is it accurate to say that competitive schools are relatively at higher risk of having empty seats comes july when the CTE deadline for other schools approaches, given that accepted applicants at more competitive schools are probably holding other acceptances and may be with scholarships elsewhere?
 
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Hello 🙂. Would it make a difference to a school, especially a top one, if I were to list the institutions I have been accepted at or received scholarships for, and said that I would turn them all down if accepted? I sent my last update over a month ago, and have been assuming that if they were going to accept me, they would have done so by now.

(I’m not hoarding acceptances. I narrowed down to one before April 30th, but have been blessed enough to receive more offers since then).

@gyngyn
I didn’t list schools or scholarships, but I did say that I was honored to receive 3 acceptances to amazing programs , after which I said a few positive things about them . And then I said that that school was my top choice , and I would decline all acceptances if I was accepted , and then I listed very very specific reasons why . I think the key here is to be very professional . I would avoid talking about anything negative , and focus on comparing positive aspects only . And I would stay away from even implying that schools are evaluated by you based on ranking - like , if one of the schools is top(insert the number), for example , I don’t know if I would mention the names at all . I might be wrong - please @gyngyn correct me if I am wrong about any of this - but in my limited experience schools can take offense . It is like in dating - you wouldn’t say “this person is a 10, and they are taking me out to this expensive restaurant , and paying for all of it and they asked me out for Friday night , but I would go out with you anyway “.... it’s like ... the intention is good , but leaves bad aftertaste . Hahaha .
 
I didn’t list schools or scholarships, but I did say that I was honored to receive 3 acceptances to amazing programs , after which I said a few positive things about them . And then I said that that school was my top choice , and I would decline all acceptances if I was accepted , and then I listed very very specific reasons why . I think the key here is to be very professional . I would avoid talking about anything negative , and focus on comparing positive aspects only . And I would stay away from even implying that schools are evaluated by you based on ranking - like , if one of the schools is top(insert the number), for example , I don’t know if I would mention the names at all . I might be wrong - please @gyngyn correct me if I am wrong about any of this - but in my limited experience schools can take offense . It is like in dating - you wouldn’t say “this person is a 10, and they are taking me out to this expensive restaurant , and paying for all of it and they asked me out for Friday night , but I would go out with you anyway “.... it’s like ... the intention is good , but leaves bad aftertaste . Hahaha .

That is essentially what I did, and it worked for me.
 
sorry if this was answered before I couldn't find anything about it. I just found out that my top choice is at class size right now. there can still be some movement as CTE deadline comes around though right? or is it basically over? @gyngyn
 
sorry if this was answered before I couldn't find anything about it. I just found out that my top choice is at class size right now. there can still be some movement as CTE deadline comes around though right? or is it basically over? @gyngyn

that's where every school is at right now. the number can only go down from this point on. People that have not selected CTE are potentials for leaving in the future (assuming they have other WLs or Acceptances)
 
I don't really understand though why someone would remain on the WL for a school if they're not interested in attending it over their current school.
No one takes themselves off a waitlist (unless compelled to do so). This has always been the case.
 
I can only hope to strengthen my application and interviewing skills enough so that I do not have to go through this ridiculousness next cycle Lol! Or at least have more supported expectations. I cannot wait to see how this continues to play out.
 
You mean in terms of which waitlisted people will be likely to attend?

I have a feeling he means, more importantly, how many PTE folks he's going to lose to other waitlists, which will dictate the extent to which he needs to go to the waitlist. I think he can see which of his waitlist students have PTE'd and CTE'd elsewhere, so he can predict which ones are likely to attend if accepted, but he has no visibility into which students who have currently PTE'd his school are actually going to CTE, correct @gyngyn?
 
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It's still unclear where the confusion lies....

In previous years, were you able to see where a WL applicant was "PTE"?

I'm assuming that its difficult at the moment to pull from the WL because you can't see if a student's PTE is "Preferable."
I don't really understand though why someone would remain on the WL for a school if they're not interested in attending it over their current school.

Would it help adcoms if students sent updates saying "I'm PTE at XX school, but I'd prefer to go to your school because reasons... not to disparage XX school." ?

I believe the answer to why someone would remain on a WL at a school that is considered less attractive than a currently accepted school is best answered in the immortal words of Joel Embiid in the currently airing Hulu Has Live Sports Commercials (Google it if you are unfamiliar! 🙂): (Possible) MONEY!!!!
 
I have a feeling he means, more importantly, how many PTE folks he's going to lose to other waitlists, which will dictate the extent to which he needs to go to the waitlist. I think he can see which of his waitlist students have PTE'd and CTE'd elsewhere, and where, so he can predict which ones are likely to attend if accepted, but he has no visibility into which students who have currently PTE'd his school are actually going to CTE, correct @gyngyn?

I understand the following:

1. It is unclear if PTE students will actually attend... i.e. they are on the WL somewhere else and it's unclear whether or not they'll leave
2. CTE students may still be on WL and even if they are not, they may still receive offers from elsewhere
3. Some students that have no intention of attending the school will remain on the waitlist
4. The multiple acceptance report used to make things less complicated (at least in terms of early waitlist movement)

At this stage, the multiple acceptance report is effectively useless because most students currently hold one acceptance with PTE/CTE designated. WL movement has been delayed as a result of this change.

The way that schools view WL applicants, though, should effectively be the same. In the past, they would not have known where else you have been accepted until they accept you.

So I believe that WL movement has become more complicated for the following reasons:

1. It has been delayed and this is causing WL movement to brush up closer to matriculation dates
2. Schools WL'd more students and accepted fewer this year --> higher risk that PTE students will move on WL
3. Schools do not know whether they should or should not accept WL applicants that have already designated CTE

Did I miss anything @gyngyn ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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I think he can see which of his waitlist students have PTE'd and CTE'd elsewhere, and where, so he can predict which ones are likely to attend if accepted @gyngyn?

The way that schools view WL applicants, though, should effectively be the same. They do not know where else you have been accepted until they accept you.

I’m sorry if this has been asked before, but I looked through the thread but I’m still a bit confused.

If an applicant has an acceptance to X School of Medicine, where they’ve PTE’d and GynGyn School of Medicine accepts them off the waitlist, can gyngyn see that the applicant’s PTE is at school X? Or do you see that they’ve PTE’d *somewhere* but don’t know exactly *where*? I thought I saw a post earlier saying the latter?
 
I’m sorry if this has been asked before, but I looked through the thread but I’m still a bit confused.

If an applicant has an acceptance to X School of Medicine, where they’ve PTE’d and GynGyn School of Medicine accepts them off the waitlist, can gyngyn see that the applicant’s PTE is at school X? Or do you see that they’ve PTE’d *somewhere* but don’t know exactly *where*? I thought I saw a post earlier saying the latter?

Just to make it clear:

A school that has waitlisted you can see if you have PTE’d or CTE’d somewhere

But a school will NEVER know WHERE
 
Just to make it clear:

A school that has waitlisted you can see if you have PTE’d or CTE’d somewhere

But a school will NEVER know WHERE

And I would argue that it’s in an applicants best interest to inform schools as to where they are currently PTE or CTE.
 
Just to make it clear:

A school that has waitlisted you can see if you have PTE’d or CTE’d somewhere

But a school will NEVER know WHERE
That’s what I thought. Just wasn’t sure after seeing some of the recent posts 🤔 Thank you for the clarification!
 
Did I miss anything @gyngyn ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
You are correct.
In anticipation of this mess many schools under-accepted (compared to historic norms) in an abundance of caution.
This delayed the acceptance of many who would have already been able to move on with their lives.
Additionally, our ability to anticipate WL activity (previously possible because of the MAR) has been delayed by at least a month or more.
The reports now generated by the AAMC are a weak substitute for actual information.
 
I didn’t list schools or scholarships, but I did say that I was honored to receive 3 acceptances to amazing programs , after which I said a few positive things about them . And then I said that that school was my top choice , and I would decline all acceptances if I was accepted , and then I listed very very specific reasons why . I think the key here is to be very professional . I would avoid talking about anything negative , and focus on comparing positive aspects only . And I would stay away from even implying that schools are evaluated by you based on ranking - like , if one of the schools is top(insert the number), for example , I don’t know if I would mention the names at all . I might be wrong - please @gyngyn correct me if I am wrong about any of this - but in my limited experience schools can take offense . It is like in dating - you wouldn’t say “this person is a 10, and they are taking me out to this expensive restaurant , and paying for all of it and they asked me out for Friday night , but I would go out with you anyway “.... it’s like ... the intention is good , but leaves bad aftertaste . Hahaha .
Thank you! That was really helpful, I will take your advise.
 
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You are correct.
In anticipation of this mess many schools under-accepted (compared to historic norms) in an abundance of caution.
This delayed the acceptance of many who would have already been able to move on with their lives.
Additionally, our ability to anticipate WL activity (previously possible because of the MAR) has been delayed by at least a month or more.
The reports now generated by the AAMC are a weak substitute for actual information.

Building on this...

I'd hazard a guess that the MAR was also useful for the following reason:

You are an ADCOM member at Yale. Javier has been accepted to Yale, Cornell, Duke, Rochester, and Northwestern. He is clearly a very competitive applicant... other schools thought so too. Based on historic data, Javier will choose Yale. But also based on historic data, Javier will get an acceptance off of the WL from Harvard or Hopkins, which he is more likely to attend. You, as an ADCOM, should anticipate Javier getting off the WL at a "preferable" school and find a WL applicant to "fill" his spot in case he gets an offer.

In other words, schools can also no longer gauge how competitive an applicant is based on their other acceptances and thus how likely they are to leave for a "better" offer off a WL
 
The way that schools view WL applicants, though, should effectively be the same. In the past, they would not have known where else you have been accepted until they accept you.

So I believe that WL movement has become more complicated for the following reasons:

1. It has been delayed and this is causing WL movement to brush up closer to matriculation dates
2. Schools WL'd more students and accepted fewer this year --> higher risk that PTE students will move on WL
3. Schools do not know whether they should or should not accept WL applicants that have already designated CTE

Did I miss anything @gyngyn ?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.


From AMCAS: "In the February of each application cycle, schools will have access to the Multiple Acceptance Report, which will show them which of their accepted applicants are holding acceptances from other schools."

"In April of the application year, medical schools will have access to the National Acceptance Report, which lists every applicant with an acceptance or matriculated action."

I was under the impression that the NAR allowed schools to even have detailed information on WL applicants., possible even for schools that one did not apply to.

If schools are accepting less, due to caution, across the board, then it might make sense that there is less WL movement. If all schools show stagnated decisions on their waitlist until the end of the cycle, then greater amounts of applicants would settle for their PTE school by committing at the deadlines.

In the past, perhaps greater decision activity by higher numbers of schools may have promoted more shuffling and greater pulls off the waitlist. Offers off the waitlist may often occur through trading of acceptances in the end game: a school may have greater confidence to offer acceptance to a WL applicant because they see specific acceptance activity. The WL applicant that is accepted would then pull from his accepted school and this creates shuffling as long as the new acceptee relinquishes another one until someone with no acceptances gains a seat.

Wl movement may depends a lot on the activity of school decision making on a large scale. If all the schools agreed to just settle, or incapacitated by the lack of knowledge, and they were confident that their acceptees were not holding multiple acceptances against the guidelines, then everyone's yield would go up.

Another consideration is that if more applicants without acceptances are pulled from the wl, because of the changes, that would also decrease wl movement.

That is my non experienced, not articulately explained, and theoretical view on it anyway. Will see what happens.
 
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From AMCAS: "In the February of each application cycle, schools will have access to the Multiple Acceptance Report, which will show them which of their accepted applicants are holding acceptances from other schools."

"In April of the application year, medical schools will have access to the National Acceptance Report, which lists every applicant with an acceptance or matriculated action."

I was under the impression that the NAR allowed schools to even have detailed information on WL applicants., possible even for schools that one did not apply to.

If schools are accepting less, due to caution, across the board, then it might make sense that there is less WL movement. If all schools show stagnated decisions on their waitlist until the end of the cycle, then greater amounts of applicants would settle for their PTE school by committing at the deadlines.

In the past, perhaps greater decision activity by higher numbers of schools may have promoted more shuffling and greater pulls off the waitlist. Offers off the waitlist may often occur through trading of acceptances in the end game: a school may have greater confidence to offer acceptance to a WL applicant because they see specific acceptance activity. The WL applicant that is accepted would then pull from his accepted school and this creates shuffling as long as the new acceptee relinquishes another one until someone with no acceptances gains a seat.

Wl movement may depends a lot on the activity of school decision making on a large scale. If all the schools agreed to just settle, or incapacitated by the lack of knowledge, and they were confident that their acceptees were not holding multiple acceptances against the guidelines, then everyone's yield would go up.

Another consideration is that if more applicants without acceptances are pulled from the wl, that would also decrease wl movement.

That is my non experienced, not articulate explained, and theoretical view on it anyway. Will see what happens.
We have never been able to see where someone has been accepted before making a decision.
 
We have never been able to see where someone has been accepted before making a decision.
Thank you for confirming that as that was not what was described in that thread. Is wait listing an applicant considered a decision that would allow you to see this information?

Anyway, I officially announce that I am done speculating on this topic and I'm sure you guys will be thankful to not have to read or scroll over it. Thank you for shedding more light for us waitlistees 🙂 and I wish you all acceptances to your dream schools.
 
Thank you for confirming that as that was not what was described in that thread. Is wait listing an applicant considered a decision that would allow you to see this information?

Anyway, I officially announce that I am done speculating on this topic and I'm sure you guys will be thankful to not have to read or scroll over it. Thank you for shedding more light for us waitlistees 🙂 and I wish you all acceptances to your dream schools.
A waitlist decision is still a decision.
We never saw where applicants applied, were waitlisted or rejected.
 
You are correct.
In anticipation of this mess many schools under-accepted (compared to historic norms) in an abundance of caution.
This delayed the acceptance of many who would have already been able to move on with their lives.
Additionally, our ability to anticipate WL activity (previously possible because of the MAR) has been delayed by at least a month or more.
The reports now generated by the AAMC are a weak substitute for actual information.
so wait. Are you saying that the historical May period of WL movement will now be in June?
 
so wait. Are you saying that the historical May period of WL movement will now be in June?

After every deadline is another one; but I feel like they just keep pushing it further and further back. In any case, I hope movement happens before secondaries have to go out for next cycle.
 
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