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Wayne State has decided to not host interviews this cycle!
 
TobyFlendersin said:
I spoke with them today. They have no idea what’s going on, can’t give any timeline for II, and keep talking about how many applications they’ve received. It’s a complete mess.
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Kinda concerning it's that disorganized right now. Maybe the whole DMC debacle left them in shambles.
 
doc1994 said:
If they've received so many apps why would they email us today encouraging us to apply lol
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That’s the email chain I referenced like 7 pages of memes ago. Started it last cycle and pissed of hundreds of OOS students mostly who would’ve never applied to Wayne otherwise. From what I’ve heard they’re trying to make Wayne State a global name. Only way to do that is make the school ultra competitive or achieve tons of medical breakthroughs. Former is obviously easier and accepting around 600 students per cycle means you need well over 10,000 applications for stats and metrics.
 
WLDR said:
I believe SS means secondary submitted
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It means Med School in Process literally, great acronym I know, but we were wondering what I meant in the scheme of things because the first status already implied applications were being reviewed. Because it literally said med school in for review. But figuring out Wayne State is harder than understanding Dwight and Angela’s relationship.
 
What does "Med School in Process" mean? It changed from "Med School in Review"
 
Chandler Bing said:
What does "Med School in Process" mean? It changed from "Med School in Review"
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Your app has been added to the big pile with everyone else's, soon to be shredded for bedding in some Wayne State employee's gerbil cage.

Seriously tho if you read the earlier posts you will see that it literally means nothing.
 
It seems like none of us will be receiving II until next cycle but it's chill
 
TobyFlendersin said:
That’s the email chain I referenced like 7 pages of memes ago. Started it last cycle and pissed of hundreds of OOS students mostly who would’ve never applied to Wayne otherwise. From what I’ve heard they’re trying to make Wayne State a global name. Only way to do that is make the school ultra competitive or achieve tons of medical breakthroughs. Former is obviously easier and accepting around 600 students per cycle means you need well over 10,000 applications for stats and metrics.
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Do the really accept 600 people each cycle?
 
TobyFlendersin said:
I spoke with them today. They have no idea what’s going on, can’t give any timeline for II, and keep talking about how many applications they’ve received. It’s a complete mess.
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Lol they get a lot less apps than most other schools according to their website. 5k isn’t too many in med school terms
 
medschoolzombie said:
Lol they get a lot less apps than most other schools according to their website. 5k isn’t too many in med school terms
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Admissions rep said that applications were around 9,000 when I spoke to them yesterday. They never update the tracker. It’s such a Wayne thing to do
 
TobyFlendersin said:
Admissions rep said that applications were around 9,000 when I spoke to them yesterday. They never update the tracker. It’s such a Wayne thing to do
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Wait what! They got 4000 more apps this year compared to last year?
 
I could see them receiving 9k primaries but idk about 9k secondaries :eyebrow:
 
toedrag said:
No screen. All verified applicants receive a secondary. But the secondary still requires effort so I bet 80-90% of applicants actually complete it.
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Ahhh I see. Thanks! Also, we have similar stats 🙂 We may have applied to around the same schools
 
Drakozord X said:
Ahhh I see. Thanks! Also, we have similar stats 🙂 We may have applied to around the same schools
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We probably did dawg. Seems like there is almost a predetermined list of schools that you're supposed to apply to based off of your stats lol
 
toedrag said:
No screen. All verified applicants receive a secondary. But the secondary still requires effort so I bet 80-90% of applicants actually complete it.
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It wasn’t too bad though. I think there was one question that was unique so people had to actually write that instead of copy/pasting a response. I’d say this was still one of the easier secondaries on a scale of SLU to Duke/Miami
 
medschoolzombie said:
It wasn’t too bad though. I think there was one question that was unique so people had to actually write that instead of copy/pasting a response. I’d say this was still one of the easier secondaries on a scale of SLU to Duke/Miami
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:laugh: true true. Didn't apply to Duke/Miami so the range that I'm familiar with is NYMC to Nova lmao
 
So the first interview date is actually not the start of September as mentioned before, right? What's going on ...
 
Kimi99 said:
So the first interview date is actually not the start of September as mentioned before, right? What's going on ...
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Seriously, it seems like they are falling further and further behind schedule. I find it highly unlikely that NONE of us (or only one person on SDN) have an interview if they started sending them out already.
 
toedrag said:
:laugh: true true. Didn't apply to Duke/Miami so the range that I'm familiar with is NYMC to Nova lmao
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I didn’t count nymc cause they still needed Casper but I guess that’s true too. Nova sucked too. So many options so little time

NinjasAtMyDoor said:
Seriously, it seems like they are falling further and further behind schedule. I find it highly unlikely that NONE of us (or only one person on SDN) have an interview if they started sending them out already.
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I thought someone said that one person who got an II was trolling us
 
To all applicants,

I am a student here at Wayne and I made this account to answer some questions and concerns you may have. I have knowledge and insight of the new curriculum for those with questions (I saw some people that commented about the ability to do research, etc) and the school in general.

I am also familiar with the evolving admissions process here. Please feel free to tag me in any questions directed at me. I'd prefer that they are not direct messages so that everyone can see the answers, but if its something you'd like to ask privately you can message me directly as well. I will do my best to check this weekly and provide you with accurate answers. If I do not know an answer, I will let you know, but will also make an effort to find out.

I will NOT provide any information or advice with regards to your secondary applications, things to say in interviews, what Wayne is looking for in an applicant, etc.

NOTHING that I say should be viewed as coming from the school or official policy. Just trying to help out 🙂
 
Dr.YabbaDabbaDoo said:
Most applicants use this tab to submit updates and LOIs later on in the year
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You are correct,

this can be used to upload any material you would like the admissions committee to know. This may include new volunteering, jobs, publications, and LOI's etc.

Not speaking from official policy, but I would recommend not submitting dozens of things to this. Perhaps create a word document containing several updates and sending them all together. I don't recommend sending 8 separate updates.
 
Chicks_Money_Power_Chicks said:
Am I considered a reapplicant if I applied last cycle but did not apply to Wayne last cycle?
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Premedneedsadvice said:
Do students at Wayne do research? How common is it for med students
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Hi,

I will expand on the research part of this, and I will then do a second post about some of the benefits of the new curriculum over the old curriculum.

With the new curriculum being 18 months, as the other student stated, it cuts the summer between M1 and M2 down to 4 weeks. Previously, students had longer than 4 weeks, so often did research during this time. 4 weeks is not enough time to get involved with a research project and get any substantial work done.

This does NOT mean that you cannot do research here. Actually, far from it.

First, you can still do research throughout year 1 and 2. Many of the student organizations here have active on-going research. Often, these projects are fairly easily to get involved with.

Also, students often identify a project that is important to them and just decide to do it. This is something I have done.

Further, there is always clinical faculty looking for medical students to assist with research. We are associated with multiple major hospitals. If you want a project associated with clinical faculty, you can easily find one. They have a department for medical students to get involved with research and have an active list of faculty looking for students. I just checked the list and theres faculty with projects ranging from EM, neuro, heme/onc, peds, surgery, trauma, etc.

Another option is Wayne allows you to take a year off between year 2 and year 3. I know students that have done this to pursue only research to strengthen their applications for competitive specialties. You can also do an MS or MPH between year 2 and 3.

Another option is during your 4th year, which is when you take all of your electives, you can do a research elective. For that entire rotation you are focused on doing research.

Lastly,
With the new curriculum, they now have a "research track". What the other student said is not fully accurate to my knowledge. I am working on getting the most up to date information about it and will get back to you. In general, the focus of this track is to provide students with research skills and exposures. Completion of this track will go on your transcript for residencies and will also go in your deans letter (which is the letter the dean of the medical school sends to your residency programs).

Hope this was clear. Feel free to ask for clarification and expansion.
 
For those that have asked about the new curriculum, here it was I came up with,

First there are several benefits but i'm just going to try and hit on the main points. Basically, they have switched to a systems based curriculum. I am frankly jealous of this and its a much better curriculum as the current M1 on here stated. An example of this will be the cardiovascular unit. In the new curriculum, students will learn the anatomy, physiology, histology, pharmacology, and everything there is to know about CV all at the same time. Whereas in the old curriculum, students would first learn anatomy and histology of the heart. A few months after that they would learn the physiology of the heart. 9 months after that they would learn the pharmacology of the heart.... Trying to remember the physiology 9 months later can be... challenging.

The new curriculum also gives students hands on clinical skills MUCH earlier. The current M1's on the new curriculum currently have MORE clinical skills than the M2's.

Dedicated step1 study time is INCREASED. This is like the bread and butter of the new curriculum in my opinion. Step1 is the MCAT of medical school but frankly weighted heavier (and we all know the MCAT is weighted heavy). With the new curriculum, they increased the dedicated Step1 study time from 4 weeks to 8 weeks. That extra 4 weeks will be unbelievably beneficial to future students.

The last major benefit is that 4th year in the new curriculum is started earlier (14 months). This gives you more time to do more electives, which is great cause there are so many options in medicine. The other MAJOR benefit of this is it gives you more time to prepare and complete your applications for residency. This is a huge benefit for students!!!

Lastly, medical students with the old curriculum had 2 years of didactic information, followed by 2 years of clinical rotations. Its now 1.5 years and 2.5 years of clinical with the new curriculum. Wayne graduates have always been known for being highly competent as first year interns (year 1 residency). This is since we have such a hands on role as medical students in our clinical rotations compared with most other schools. This will high level of clinical competence will only increase more with the additional 6 months of clinical work.
 
In regards to interviews,

I can't speak to the technical difficulties you are all facing, sorry you are dealing with that, they'll figure it out. It is true that they have received thousands of more applicants than in the past. Could be a factor.

In regards to actual interviews, Wayne HAS started their interview process for this cycle and is currently interviewing students. Most of the days so far have been for Early Decision Applicants. I believe they are now starting normal applicant interviews this Monday (sept 10th).

Be patient, they will get back you.
 
WayneMedStudent said:
In regards to interviews,

I can't speak to the technical difficulties you are all facing, sorry you are dealing with that, they'll figure it out. It is true that they have received thousands of more applicants than in the past. Could be a factor.

In regards to actual interviews, Wayne HAS started their interview process for this cycle and is currently interviewing students. Most of the days so far have been for Early Decision Applicants. I believe they are now starting normal applicant interviews this Monday (sept 10th).

Be patient, they will get back you.
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Basically, everyone on sdn is uncompetitive lol, I can't believe they started. .
 
Kimi99 said:
Basically, everyone on sdn is uncompetitive lol, I can't believe they started. .
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I was on SDN and I got in, so I wouldn't say that 😉

Its also the first interview session of non-early decision applicants (from my understanding). So give it sometime, they have interviews later in the year EVERY Monday and Friday. "Competitive" or not, its unlikely for you to be in this first cycle when there is 9,000 other people.


I also interviewed somewhat late at Wayne and got in, so early interview does not always equal an acceptance.
 
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