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qrc said:
Those who did not get acceptance today, will they also be considered for the December 16 offer date ? Or they will be only considered after all the interviews are over.
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M1 here, can absolutely confirm that you will continue to be considered and have hope for getting in! I interviewed in mid-August last year and got accepted on the December acceptance date. I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS!!
 
Dean Mission said:
If you are willing to share de-identified specifics about your application (MCAT, GPA, clinical, service, research, etc), I will break down your application for you to help identify for you and others where the problems may lie.
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Sorry, I never got the notification for this! Thank you, that would be a huge help.

-MCAT: 514 (129/131/126/128)
-Non-trad, post-bac GPA 3.85
-cGPA 3.3
-3 years of clinical research w/2 publications (~ 750 hours, low estimate)
-Clinical shadowing ~500 hours
-Volunteering as a sports coach ~600 hours(realized I listed it as leadership instead of volunteering)

I know my volunteering and clinical hours are light, and my research is dated from before my post-bac.

I applied to 40 MD schools, no DO.
 
Do they interview in the last half of December? And how are “in the area” requests received?
 
atticustimberlake said:
Do they interview in the last half of December? And how are “in the area” requests received?
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1) no 2) they are not receptive. ITA requests are really intended for big cities like Chicago, New York City, etc. nothing is really “in the area” of Richmond. Dc is 2 hours from Richmond etc.
 
Had a nightmare last night all I saw was:
Your File Review is now complete. If you are granted an interview, you will receive a status update on your applicant portal.
 
Veloci_granger said:
Sorry, I never got the notification for this! Thank you, that would be a huge help.

-MCAT: 514 (129/131/126/128)
-Non-trad, post-bac GPA 3.85
-cGPA 3.3
-3 years of clinical research w/2 publications (~ 750 hours, low estimate)
-Clinical shadowing ~500 hours
-Volunteering as a sports coach ~600 hours(realized I listed it as leadership instead of volunteering)

I know my volunteering and clinical hours are light, and my research is dated from before my post-bac.

I applied to 40 MD schools, no DO.
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Okay, let's start digging into this. First, you say you took the MCAT and got a 514. How many attempts did you have and if you took it more than once, how long ago were other scores attained, relative to when you got your high score? All too often, applicants get a score after a number of attempts and think that is it, when their entire testing history suggests that they may not be that person. If you take tests within a close window, they may be averaged with prior scores.

Second, there is no such thing as a non-traditional applicant anymore. In fact, what we used to consider as a non-traditional applicant is, by the numbers, the traditional route.

You say you had a 3.85 post-bac. Does that mean (as it should) that those are undergraduate-level courses? Post-bac classes from an admissions perspective implies undergrad classes taken after getting an undergrad degree. Graduate-level work, though often called post-bac is not post-bac work. So, clarify if necessary. I will assume you are using the proper terms for my discussion below.

Your undergraduate cumulative GPA at 3.3 is a problem. Particularly since your BCPM metric is likely to be lower than that. You may need to consider a graduate-level certificate or degree that is majority science-based to offset that. You would need to finish that course of study and do well in it with a 3.5 GPA or higher to start offsetting your deficiency.

You are great on research and clinical exposure -- move onto fixing things that matter now.

Your service, though a lot of hours, may not come off as the best sounding activity....coaching. A lot will depend on how you described it. You said yourself that you listed it as leadership; that can be a big problem. This brings up a big issue for a lot of applicants; descriptions are CRITICAL. Admissions reviewers only know what you tell them. When you are sloppy, less than forthcoming, evasive, and/or ambiguous with how you describe things that is reason alone to hammer an application upon review. This is especially true when applicants already have some clear deficiencies.

That is what I see right off the bat. You can clarify as you wish.
 
Dean Mission said:
Okay, let's start digging into this. First, you say you took the MCAT and got a 514. How many attempts did you have and if you took it more than once, how long ago were other scores attained, relative to when you got your high score? All too often, applicants get a score after a number of attempts and think that is it, when their entire testing history suggests that they may not be that person. If you take tests within a close window, they may be averaged with prior scores.

Second, there is no such thing as a non-traditional applicant anymore. In fact, what we used to consider as a non-traditional applicant is, by the numbers, the traditional route.

You say you had a 3.85 post-bac. Does that mean (as it should) that those are undergraduate-level courses? Post-bac classes from an admissions perspective implies undergrad classes taken after getting an undergrad degree. Graduate-level work, though often called post-bac is not post-bac work. So, clarify if necessary. I will assume you are using the proper terms for my discussion below.

Your undergraduate cumulative GPA at 3.3 is a problem. Particularly since your BCPM metric is likely to be lower than that. You may need to consider a graduate-level certificate or degree that is majority science-based to offset that. You would need to finish that course of study and do well in it with a 3.5 GPA or higher to start offsetting your deficiency.

You are great on research and clinical exposure -- move onto fixing things that matter now.

Your service, though a lot of hours, may not come off as the best sounding activity....coaching. A lot will depend on how you described it. You said yourself that you listed it as leadership; that can be a big problem. This brings up a big issue for a lot of applicants; descriptions are CRITICAL. Admissions reviewers only know what you tell them. When you are sloppy, less than forthcoming, evasive, and/or ambiguous with how you describe things that is reason alone to hammer an application upon review. This is especially true when applicants already have some clear deficiencies.

That is what I see right off the bat. You can clarify as you wish.
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Hey dean mission! Thanks for being so great online and in person. When you say “close window”, if you took the mcat 2 times a year a part is that close enough for them to be averaged? Could u just clarify what you meant be close window.
 
@Dean Mission Hi, I have a question. My application is complete since early September and my application still indicates that I am under review for an interview. I am worried that my MCAT and GPA could be the problem. I took the MCAT a few times with the recent being a 512. The previous scores were a few years ago. My uGPA is 3.1 but I did well in my SMP, graduated above a 3.7. Undergrad was done a couple years ago. My ECs are strong with pubs, thousand of hours of clinical and nonclinical experiences. Areas I imagine might be a problem are my uGPA and MCAT. What do you think when you see applicants like mine? Thank you
 
Talldoctor96 said:
Hey dean mission! Thanks for being so great online and in person. When you say “close window”, if you took the mcat 2 times a year a part is that close enough for them to be averaged? Could u just clarify what you meant be close window.
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Hopefully it means a few months apart. I took mine 2 years apart. Hope that’s far enough.
 
medhead98 said:
Your File Review is now complete. If you are granted an interview, you will receive a status update on your applicant portal.

Is this a hold? Should I be upset with this message? Did anyone with a II receive this message first?
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I see that several applicants received an II ~1 week after receiving the "check your portal" email update, but has anyone received an R after receiving this update?
 
Billy_boy said:
I see that several applicants received an II ~1 week after receiving the "check your portal" email update, but has anyone received an R after receiving this update?
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Yes a few people have received R's after getting this previously on the thread. I had the status for 3 weeks before receiving a II. That status means your file review has reached a terminal juncture and it has a numerical score-- If it hits the II threshold you will get a II. Most people will probably remain on this status if they aren't going to be rejected right off the bat. But the hundreds if not thousands of applicants ( 8000 apps, 700 interviews) will most likely remain on that status until interview season is over. There is no way to know.
 
Talldoctor96 said:
Yes a few people have received R's after getting this previously on the thread. I had the status for 3 weeks before receiving a II. That status means your file review has reached a terminal juncture and it has a numerical score-- If it hits the II threshold you will get a II. Most people will probably remain on this status if they aren't going to be rejected right off the bat. But the hundreds if not thousands of applicants ( 8000 apps, 700 interviews) will most likely remain on that status until interview season is over. There is no way to know.
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Mine still says my MD file is now complete. A member will do a review of my application. So that means I haven’t been scored yet? It’s been like that since mid September.
 
FuturePedsDoc1993 said:
Mines been like that since mid-july. There is no rhyme or reason as to how they process apps.
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Maybe our apps are not special enough to prompt a quick review. Schools do prioritize who to get reviewed first. I just hope it wont be too late for II.
 
CardioEnthusio15 said:
Mine still says my MD file is now complete. A member will do a review of my application. So that means I haven’t been scored yet? It’s been like that since mid September.
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No as Dean mission has explained previously it is a multi-step process where you are reviewed by multiple people. From my understanding (caveat there is no way for us to really know but as a re-applicant that has interviewed here twice combined with the fact that VCU and dean mission have been very transparent over the year I feel like I have a pretty good idea), An initial review happens by someone -- and then your file is prioritized to be scored by the sub-committee. After that initial review there are god knows how many different piles of like " fast-track this application, this application is a low priority etc. " Your applications are somewhere in that limbo. It just means to this point your file has not been prioritized to the point where it has reached the TERMINAL stage. Dean Mission said a couple weeks ago that the subcommittee was up to September at this point -- so SOMEONE has read your app its just in limbo until the final score is given.
 
Here is exactly what I was trying to say but from the dean himself. As of October 10th there was a 6-8 week back log which is what like end of August? So If that same rule applies that means if you applied after Sept 15th you might not even have been reviewed yet.

Dean Mission said:
CASPer scores are primarily used in the late stages of review, but they are used for analytical purposes for the incoming class as well. So, to answer your questions: the score is used both pre- and post-interview.


It depends on where you are in the review process. There is currently about a 6-8 week backlog of applications waiting to go through subcommittee review, which is when secondary applications are scrutinized. Once through subcommittee, there is a reshuffling of the deck of sorts that reorders the line so it is not strictly first-come, first-served. Where applicants fall after an internal subcommittee rank will determine when they will get to the terminal process of file review. You must be file reviewed before getting to the point of an interview invite.
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Talldoctor96 said:
Here is exactly what I was trying to say but from the dean himself. As of October 10th there was a 6-8 week back log which is what like end of August? So If that same rule applies that means if you applied after Sept 15th you might not even have been reviewed yet.
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Thanks! This is very helpful. Guess I just have to patiently wait and pray for the best.
 
NPowerB said:
I was complete 8/30 and just got the status update saying it had been reviewed earlier this week and to wait to hear about an interview. Definitely just seems to be backed up.


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Thanks for the update. Hopefully Im up next.
 
Talldoctor96 said:
No as Dean mission has explained previously it is a multi-step process where you are reviewed by multiple people. From my understanding (caveat there is no way for us to really know but as a re-applicant that has interviewed here twice combined with the fact that VCU and dean mission have been very transparent over the year I feel like I have a pretty good idea), An initial review happens by someone -- and then your file is prioritized to be scored by the sub-committee. After that initial review there are god knows how many different piles of like " fast-track this application, this application is a low priority etc. " Your applications are somewhere in that limbo. It just means to this point your file has not been prioritized to the point where it has reached the TERMINAL stage. Dean Mission said a couple weeks ago that the subcommittee was up to September at this point -- so SOMEONE has read your app its just in limbo until the final score is given.
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I submitted early July and my portal has said:

Your M.D. file is now complete. The Sub-Committee will now do a review of your application. Once this review is complete, you will receive a status update regarding your profile.

So if the subcommittee was up to September, how has my app not been reviewed by them yet? (Sorry if I am misunderstanding the process)
 
anotherpremedlurker said:
I submitted early July and my portal has said:

Your M.D. file is now complete. The Sub-Committee will now do a review of your application. Once this review is complete, you will receive a status update regarding your profile.

So if the subcommittee was up to September, how has my app not been reviewed by them yet? (Sorry if I am misunderstanding the process)
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I'm right there with you (only later - 8/1).
 
anotherpremedlurker said:
I submitted early July and my portal has said:

Your M.D. file is now complete. The Sub-Committee will now do a review of your application. Once this review is complete, you will receive a status update regarding your profile.

So if the subcommittee was up to September, how has my app not been reviewed by them yet? (Sorry if I am misunderstanding the process)
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You have been reviewed by the subcommittee but your status won’t change until your file review is complete. Picture the subcommittee as like a triage nurse in an ER that either escalates you or keeps you in the waiting room. Other things are then looked at by more people and then your file review is complete. You are somewhere along the multistep review process just not completed yet.
 
@Dean Mission Hello, Does the difficulty of the major makes any difference ? For example a math major or engineering major versus other majors ? Thanks.
 
Just wondering if anyone else is interviewing 11/5 and would like to grab dinner Monday night. I'm OOS, not staying with a student, and trying to entertain myself.
 
Dean Mission said:
Okay, let's start digging into this. First, you say you took the MCAT and got a 514. How many attempts did you have and if you took it more than once, how long ago were other scores attained, relative to when you got your high score? All too often, applicants get a score after a number of attempts and think that is it, when their entire testing history suggests that they may not be that person. If you take tests within a close window, they may be averaged with prior scores.

Second, there is no such thing as a non-traditional applicant anymore. In fact, what we used to consider as a non-traditional applicant is, by the numbers, the traditional route.

You say you had a 3.85 post-bac. Does that mean (as it should) that those are undergraduate-level courses? Post-bac classes from an admissions perspective implies undergrad classes taken after getting an undergrad degree. Graduate-level work, though often called post-bac is not post-bac work. So, clarify if necessary. I will assume you are using the proper terms for my discussion below.

Your undergraduate cumulative GPA at 3.3 is a problem. Particularly since your BCPM metric is likely to be lower than that. You may need to consider a graduate-level certificate or degree that is majority science-based to offset that. You would need to finish that course of study and do well in it with a 3.5 GPA or higher to start offsetting your deficiency.

You are great on research and clinical exposure -- move onto fixing things that matter now.

Your service, though a lot of hours, may not come off as the best sounding activity....coaching. A lot will depend on how you described it. You said yourself that you listed it as leadership; that can be a big problem. This brings up a big issue for a lot of applicants; descriptions are CRITICAL. Admissions reviewers only know what you tell them. When you are sloppy, less than forthcoming, evasive, and/or ambiguous with how you describe things that is reason alone to hammer an application upon review. This is especially true when applicants already have some clear deficiencies.

That is what I see right off the bat. You can clarify as you wish.
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Hey, thank you for taking the time to go through all of this!

For the MCAT, I took it once, last year in August. Submitted a first round of applications in September of last year (way, way too late, as I now know), reapplicant for this cycle.

As for the non-trad title, I am older and had a corporate career between my undergrad and my post-bac program, and worked full-time during the post-bac as well. Regarding the 3.85 GPA, yes, that refers to post-bac undergrad-level pre-requisite BCPM courses required for medical school. I've been encouraged by others to emphasize that difference in "career changer" experience as "non-trad".

For my undergrad cGPA, I am always confused as how to report it... In my undergraduate major, I had a 3.8 with a strong upward trend. I took only a handful of science courses in undergrad (fresh/soph year, over 10 years ago) with poor to average results, so I was told that my BCPM performance in the post-bac program would offset those few classes... are you recommending I would have to go through an additional (grad-level) post-bac or a masters program to offset undergrad cGPA?

Is the general rule of thumb to classify any volunteering as "community service"? How does one overcome mis-categorizing activities?

I applied to 40 schools, got 40 secondaries. So far, I have only gotten 1 R and radio silence from the other 39. Completed all secondaries by the first week in September, nearly all were done in August.

Let me know if I can help to clarify anything else!
 
Veloci_granger said:
Hey, thank you for taking the time to go through all of this!

For the MCAT, I took it once, last year in August. Submitted a first round of applications in September of last year (way, way too late, as I now know), reapplicant for this cycle.

As for the non-trad title, I am older and had a corporate career between my undergrad and my post-bac program, and worked full-time during the post-bac as well. Regarding the 3.85 GPA, yes, that refers to post-bac undergrad-level pre-requisite BCPM courses required for medical school. I've been encouraged by others to emphasize that difference in "career changer" experience as "non-trad".

For my undergrad cGPA, I am always confused as how to report it... In my undergraduate major, I had a 3.8 with a strong upward trend. I took only a handful of science courses in undergrad (fresh/soph year, over 10 years ago) with poor to average results, so I was told that my BCPM performance in the post-bac program would offset those few classes... are you recommending I would have to go through an additional (grad-level) post-bac or a masters program to offset undergrad cGPA?

Is the general rule of thumb to classify any volunteering as "community service"? How does one overcome mis-categorizing activities?

I applied to 40 schools, got 40 secondaries. So far, I have only gotten 1 R and radio silence from the other 39. Completed all secondaries by the first week in September, nearly all were done in August.

Let me know if I can help to clarify anything else!
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Submitting in September is not late. It's on time. I think you should look for other reasons than the date
 
OntologicalDamnation said:
Submitting in September is not late. It's on time. I think you should look for other reasons than the date
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No, like I submitted my AMCAS primary in late September. Secondaries in late October and November. When I asked for feedback from adcoms, I was told that I applied extremely late in the cycle.

This year, I submitted my AMCAS in June and all of my secondaries in August/September.
 
Veloci_granger said:
No, like I submitted my AMCAS primary in late September. Secondaries in late October and November. When I asked for feedback from adcoms, I was told that I applied extremely late in the cycle.

This year, I submitted my AMCAS in June and all of my secondaries in August/September.
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Got it. That makes more sense!
 
Hey @Dean Mission are you able to comment on average every year how many of the 700 interviewees are rejected immediately (i.e. failed the interview and do not get put on hold for possible acceptance)?
 
Question for people that have interviewed:

I remember hearing that they offer Acceptances on four dates: 10/16, 12/16, 2/1, 3/1. Did anyone else receive the following after they interviewed

"The Admissions Committee has met to discuss your file. Your application is being placed on hold for possible acceptance at a later date. We anticipate making offers around October 16, December 16, February 1, and March 1. If any of these dates fall on a weekend the offers will be made on the following Monday. An alternate list will be formulated in mid-March and will become active at that time

Your profile will remain on hold until such time that you either receive an offer of admission or an invitation to be on the alternate list. Your application will no longer be under consideration if you do not receive an invitation to be on the alternate list."

Based on my understanding, this is a standard message post-II and doesn't mean we were rejected, right? Just because they only offer Acceptances on 4 possible dates.
 
Polarbare50 said:
Question for people that have interviewed:

I remember hearing that they offer Acceptances on four dates: 10/16, 12/16, 2/1, 3/1. Did anyone else receive the following after they interviewed

"The Admissions Committee has met to discuss your file. Your application is being placed on hold for possible acceptance at a later date. We anticipate making offers around October 16, December 16, February 1, and March 1. If any of these dates fall on a weekend the offers will be made on the following Monday. An alternate list will be formulated in mid-March and will become active at that time

Your profile will remain on hold until such time that you either receive an offer of admission or an invitation to be on the alternate list. Your application will no longer be under consideration if you do not receive an invitation to be on the alternate list."

Based on my understanding, this is a standard message post-II and doesn't mean we were rejected, right? Just because they only offer Acceptances on 4 possible dates.
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I received the same message.
 
Polarbare50 said:
Question for people that have interviewed:

I remember hearing that they offer Acceptances on four dates: 10/16, 12/16, 2/1, 3/1. Did anyone else receive the following after they interviewed

"The Admissions Committee has met to discuss your file. Your application is being placed on hold for possible acceptance at a later date. We anticipate making offers around October 16, December 16, February 1, and March 1. If any of these dates fall on a weekend the offers will be made on the following Monday. An alternate list will be formulated in mid-March and will become active at that time

Your profile will remain on hold until such time that you either receive an offer of admission or an invitation to be on the alternate list. Your application will no longer be under consideration if you do not receive an invitation to be on the alternate list."

Based on my understanding, this is a standard message post-II and doesn't mean we were rejected, right? Just because they only offer Acceptances on 4 possible dates.
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Okay essentially here is what happens. Every Monday after you interview, the selection Committee compromised of 30 people sits down and votes on everyone that interviewed the previous week. One member reads your file over the weekend and will present you to the committee. They will have the score that your file received and the person will read through your personal statement secondary LOR activities ETC. They will also have your interview composite score to present to the committee which is very important and in the words of Dean mission "probably the most important factor", but everything is still considered. Once you are presented to the committee, all 30 poeple vote anonymously from 1-5 on you so that everyone else doesn't know how other committee members are voting. 1 is best 5 is worst. Those that receive a 4 or 5 composite are rejected immediately, and that usually means that you failed the interview. This is not necessarily a common outcome but does happen and is reported sporadically on here.

For the rest of us who did not fail the interview, you probably got a score somewhere from 1-3. Everyone with those scores are then put on hold for possible acceptance. All this means at this point is that you did not fail the interview. You could be number 1 on the list or you could be dead last, we will never know.

On December 16th, approximately 50 or so offers will be made and the majority of those will go to people who interview since October 16th. Your best chance is to get in during the date that you "fall under".

Dean mission earlier in this thread answered there were approximately 200 people on hold for acceptance right before October 16th (I think it was the 10th or 11th) for what ultimately will be about 50 offers. This is a good way to visualize how many people are put on hold vs rejected immediately.

If you are on hold for acceptance, it is a small victory. It means you didn't fail the interview. It doesn't mean anything more than that.

After all 4 dates are concluded there will be a large number of those that are on hold for acceptance from each of the 4 dates that werent accepted. The Alternate list is then formulated and people are Rejected at that point.

Last year there were 250 plus people on the waitlist (when about 200 offers had been given out). It is safe to assume doing some very guessy math then that about 700-450 = 250 people are rejected when the waitlist is formulated in march.

Sorry this is a lot let me know if you have any questions.
 
Talldoctor96 said:
Okay essentially here is what happens. Every Monday after you interview, the selection Committee compromised of 30 people sits down and votes on everyone that interviewed the previous week. One member reads your file over the weekend and will present you to the committee. They will have the score that your file received and the person will read through your personal statement secondary LOR activities ETC. They will also have your interview composite score to present to the committee which is very important and in the words of Dean mission "probably the most important factor", but everything is still considered. Once you are presented to the committee, all 30 poeple vote anonymously from 1-5 on you so that everyone else doesn't know how other committee members are voting. 1 is best 5 is worst. Those that receive a 4 or 5 composite are rejected immediately, and that usually means that you failed the interview. This is not necessarily a common outcome but does happen and is reported sporadically on here.

For the rest of us who did not fail the interview, you probably got a score somewhere from 1-3. Everyone with those scores are then put on hold for possible acceptance. All this means at this point is that you did not fail the interview. You could be number 1 on the list or you could be dead last, we will never know.

On December 16th, approximately 50 or so offers will be made and the majority of those will go to people who interview since October 16th. Your best chance is to get in during the date that you "fall under".

Dean mission earlier in this thread answered there were approximately 200 people on hold for acceptance right before October 16th (I think it was the 10th or 11th) for what ultimately will be about 50 offers. This is a good way to visualize how many people are put on hold vs rejected immediately.

If you are on hold for acceptance, it is a small victory. It means you didn't fail the interview. It doesn't mean anything more than that.

After all 4 dates are concluded there will be a large number of those that are on hold for acceptance from each of the 4 dates that werent accepted. The Alternate list is then formulated and people are Rejected at that point.

Last year there were 250 plus people on the waitlist (when about 200 offers had been given out). It is safe to assume doing some very guessy math then that about 700-450 = 250 people are rejected when the waitlist is formulated in march.

Sorry this is a lot let me know if you have any questions.
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This is extremely helpful- thank you. A follow-up question: Based upon Dean's mission's numbers (200 people on hold for 50 acceptances), can we then assume that the post-II acceptance rate is below 50%?

I remember seeing the post-II acceptance rate because something high like 60%+, but others commented how that was likely inaccurate, doubly so given the new traffic rules.
 
Polarbare50 said:
This is extremely helpful- thank you. A follow-up question: Based upon Dean's mission's numbers (200 people on hold for 50 acceptances), can we then assume that the post-II acceptance rate is below 50%?

I remember seeing the post-II acceptance rate because something high like 60%+, but others commented how that was likely inaccurate, doubly so given the new traffic rules.
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The 60 percent number was based on the fact that the school was interviewing 570 people not 700.

Last year 703 people were interviewed and approximately 300 offers were given in total. so that is about 43 percent acceptance rate including waitlist acceptances?

*** Keep in mind that these acceptance percentages take into account all waitlist acceptances. They usually offer 200 spots and then 100 waitlist acceptances historically.
 
Talldoctor96 said:
The 60 percent number was based on the fact that the school was interviewing 570 people not 700.

Last year 703 people were interviewed and approximately 300 offers were given in total. so that is about 43 percent acceptance rate including waitlist acceptances?

*** Keep in mind that these acceptance percentages take into account all waitlist acceptances. They usually offer 200 spots and then 100 waitlist acceptances historically.
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I really appreciate the insight and clarity- thank you.
 
Polarbare50 said:
This is extremely helpful- thank you. A follow-up question: Based upon Dean's mission's numbers (200 people on hold for 50 acceptances), can we then assume that the post-II acceptance rate is below 50%?

I remember seeing the post-II acceptance rate because something high like 60%+, but others commented how that was likely inaccurate, doubly so given the new traffic rules.
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I would assume post-interview acceptance rate is around 40%. They interview around ~800 and definitely accept 200 but I would assume they accept around 300. MSAR said the waitlist is 100 people with 75 people eventually gaining an acceptance (which is different from what TallDoctor96 said so I don't know who is correct. I'm more inclined to trust them over MSAR tbh.)
 
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