2021-2022 Waitlist Support Thread

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If it helps to make anyones mood, I just adopted the cutest stray kitten ever. She has helped me to not focus so much on waiting on the waitlist and checking here every hour. Maybe me doing this good karma will get me that A!!
My wife and I did as well. We have two new black kitties, and now that we are living with my in-laws during WL-purgatory, they play with their two 5 year old cats. Makes the waiting game tolerable 😁
 
With your stats you should not give up, try one more time taking in account what you can improve. Read up on how to interview and practice with anyone who can help. Volunteer in an ER, hospice or become a CNA. If you are really serious, in 6 months, you could undertake training and become a paid EMT building clinical hours which med schools love to see. Good luck on whatever you decide.
Thanks for the advice. I have ultimately decided to give it one more go if things don't pan out this time, mostly so all the time and money I wasted studying for the MCAT doesn't go to waste. But not until next year though, so I would at least have the support of my college for interview prep among other things. And since my MCAT was March last year it should be good for the 2023-2024 cycle (at least from what I've seen?) By then I believe I'll have patched up my nonclinical volunteering holes. My research group has drafted four new publications since I applied, and I'm either first or second author on all of them, so hopefully I'll at least have doubled my pub count upon reapplication.

I'll likely try to go for a part time clinical job (maybe scribing or something) that I could do alongside my adjuncting, or see if I can get a paid part time research associate position at a hospital or somewhere else. I believe I'm mostly okay in terms of clinical since I have over 1000 hours total across multiple departments doing some (relatively) fairly involved clinical work, patient care and clinical research alongside nurses in particular. But more can't hurt, especially if I can get another doctor letter. Can't really afford to do it unpaid anymore though, so I'll take whichever one is willing to interview me and is willing to pay.

I've pretty much come to terms with potentially not getting in. Hell I still have yet to send out letters of interest because I've arguably gotten too content. In fact for me, I want this cycle to be over, more so I can actually know whether to begin applying for jobs or not 😂. Plus I've been taking steps to rebuild the social life I kind of lost through this whole process by going out and meeting new people, so it'd be nice to be actually able to commit to it fully, knowing I'll be able to consistently hang with any new friends I make in person for at least another 2 years.

If the reapp doesn't work out, I guess grad school it is!
 
I've arguably gotten too content. In fact for me, I want this cycle to be over, more so I can actually know whether to begin applying for jobs or not 😂.
Im with you on this part! waiting to see if I should be applying for jobs elsewhere is a nightmare. I feel dishonest interviewing for jobs that I might leave come July. I am trying my hardest to keep hope with 4 waitlists, so I feel like I am giving up on this cycle when I am looking for a potential new career.
 
AACOMAS does not participate in Choose Your Medical School; this is only AMCAS.
Right. The question was whether AACOMAS has anything similar. And the answer is apparently no, because large non-refundable deposits do the job instead!
 
I believe AACOM has a May 15 deadline. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
 
I believe AACOM has a May 15 deadline. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
You are kind of correct. It's slightly different, because it's not the system that limits you to one selection. Apparently, after 5/15, AACOMAS reports to schools the name of people holding acceptances at other schools. Those schools can then do nothing, or give people at least 15 days to drop their other acceptances.

So, the deadline is really not before 5/30, and totally up to each school, as opposed to system enforced.
 
Is it just me or does a post-II waitlist seem like a comment on my character/personality? 🙁 I've always thought I was pretty good at talking to people, and many mentors have told me that interviews should be easy for me. All of my top choice schools I interviewed for this cycle came out to be WL and I'm not expecting much movement on it. But it just makes me a little sad to think that maybe they didn't think I was as friendly as I thought I was being?
 
Is it just me or does a post-II waitlist seem like a comment on my character/personality? 🙁 I've always thought I was pretty good at talking to people, and many mentors have told me that interviews should be easy for me. All of my top choice schools I interviewed for this cycle came out to be WL and I'm not expecting much movement on it. But it just makes me a little sad to think that maybe they didn't think I was as friendly as I thought I was being?
I had similar thinking for some time after I received my 4 post-II rejections & 2 WLs. At the end of the day though, I was consistent across my interviews. I was myself and I feel like personalities have to match for a school to be like "hey, let's admit this person, they'll do great in our environment"... I got admitted to a DO school early in the cycle (it was my first interview). I'm still under the belief that they believed that I would thrive at their school despite not having similar results on the MD side. Maybe my PS and activities were more geared to their "DO philosophy." I'll never know. I do know that I'll never sacrifice who I am to appease the powers that be. Med school admissions is tough, don't beat yourself up over what ifs. If you gave it your all, then that's the best you could do.
 
Is it just me or does a post-II waitlist seem like a comment on my character/personality? 🙁 I've always thought I was pretty good at talking to people, and many mentors have told me that interviews should be easy for me. All of my top choice schools I interviewed for this cycle came out to be WL and I'm not expecting much movement on it. But it just makes me a little sad to think that maybe they didn't think I was as friendly as I thought I was being?
It's a number game. They're trying to put 66k butts into 25k seats. It's going to be an aboslutely flawed, imperfect process. Don't let that deter you from a fundamentals level- you will find your way. Learn from things, but dont assume you're flawed.
 
I had similar thinking for some time after I received my 4 post-II rejections & 2 WLs. At the end of the day though, I was consistent across my interviews. I was myself and I feel like personalities have to match for a school to be like "hey, let's admit this person, they'll do great in our environment"... I got admitted to a DO school early in the cycle (it was my first interview). I'm still under the belief that they believed that I would thrive at their school despite not having similar results on the MD side. Maybe my PS and activities were more geared to their "DO philosophy." I'll never know. I do know that I'll never sacrifice who I am to appease the powers that be. Med school admissions is tough, don't beat yourself up over what ifs. If you gave it your all, then that's the best you could do.
It's a number game. They're trying to put 66k butts into 25k seats. It's going to be an aboslutely flawed, imperfect process. Don't let that deter you from a fundamentals level- you will find your way. Learn from things, but dont assume you're flawed.
Thank you all for your encouraging messages. I've been pretty down because I couldn't help but associate these WLs with me being an unlikeable person, even though in my brain, I know it's really harmful to think that.
 
There must be a reason for the lack of success. Based on what you said, I think it may be a combination of how you wrote the application and the interview. Hire someone to check out your personal statement and answers to secondaries. The application is more impt than you realize, how you describe yourself and your motivation to be a doctor could be key to success in the next cycle. Best wishes.
I think the biggest reason is honestly the nonclinical volunteering. I literally had nothing of the sort on my app. Hobbies could've been something too, I cut out the one experience describing my hobby so that I could include my clinical research posters - and from the stories I've read, the people who end up spending the whole interview talking about their hobbies and having a normal convo tend to get accepted way more often than not. It was also one of the first recommendations my prehealth office made to me to include, but I reluctantly cut out later because of the research. I was basically starting with 11 slots because I needed one for my four pubs, another one for three submitted pubs, one for my basic science research posters/oral presentations, and one for my clinical posters. Wasn't a great feeling in a way.

Obviously there's always more I could've done in the interviews, but out of all of the interviews, the only one I really thought went badly was the one school out of those 5 I got a hard R from. So I think I did good enough to avoid that for most of them, but my nonclinical and perhaps hobby and formal non-mentor/teaching leadership role (e.g. president of club) holes probably kept me from going over the top. Apparently all of the schools I ended up getting waitlisted at really value nonclinical volunteering in particular, which I thought I could compensate for not having by having really really good research and clinical experience and applying to explicitly research-oriented schools (based on mission.) Needless to say that was wrong, and I hope to have it rectified before my reapplication.
 
Is it just me or does a post-II waitlist seem like a comment on my character/personality? 🙁 I've always thought I was pretty good at talking to people, and many mentors have told me that interviews should be easy for me. All of my top choice schools I interviewed for this cycle came out to be WL and I'm not expecting much movement on it. But it just makes me a little sad to think that maybe they didn't think I was as friendly as I thought I was being?
If the problem were you, you likely would have been rejected post-interview. Stay optimistic and let the process play out.
 
I think the biggest reason is honestly the nonclinical volunteering. I literally had nothing of the sort on my app. Hobbies could've been something too, I cut out the one experience describing my hobby so that I could include my clinical research posters - and from the stories I've read, the people who end up spending the whole interview talking about their hobbies and having a normal convo tend to get accepted way more often than not. It was also one of the first recommendations my prehealth office made to me to include, but I reluctantly cut out later because of the research. I was basically starting with 11 slots because I needed one for my four pubs, another one for three submitted pubs, one for my basic science research posters/oral presentations, and one for my clinical posters. Wasn't a great feeling in a way.

Obviously there's always more I could've done in the interviews, but out of all of the interviews, the only one I really thought went badly was the one school out of those 5 I got a hard R from. So I think I did good enough to avoid that for most of them, but my nonclinical and perhaps hobby and formal non-mentor/teaching leadership role (e.g. president of club) holes probably kept me from going over the top. Apparently all of the schools I ended up getting waitlisted at really value nonclinical volunteering in particular, which I thought I could compensate for not having by having really really good research and clinical experience and applying to explicitly research-oriented schools (based on mission.) Needless to say that was wrong, and I hope to have it rectified before my reapplication.
We look forward to a WAMC post from you should you not get an A soon.
 
I think the biggest reason is honestly the nonclinical volunteering. I literally had nothing of the sort on my app. Hobbies could've been something too, I cut out the one experience describing my hobby so that I could include my clinical research posters - and from the stories I've read, the people who end up spending the whole interview talking about their hobbies and having a normal convo tend to get accepted way more often than not. It was also one of the first recommendations my prehealth office made to me to include, but I reluctantly cut out later because of the research. I was basically starting with 11 slots because I needed one for my four pubs, another one for three submitted pubs, one for my basic science research posters/oral presentations, and one for my clinical posters. Wasn't a great feeling in a way.

Obviously there's always more I could've done in the interviews, but out of all of the interviews, the only one I really thought went badly was the one school out of those 5 I got a hard R from. So I think I did good enough to avoid that for most of them, but my nonclinical and perhaps hobby and formal non-mentor/teaching leadership role (e.g. president of club) holes probably kept me from going over the top. Apparently all of the schools I ended up getting waitlisted at really value nonclinical volunteering in particular, which I thought I could compensate for not having by having really really good research and clinical experience and applying to explicitly research-oriented schools (based on mission.) Needless to say that was wrong, and I hope to have it rectified before my reapplication.
 
I think the biggest reason is honestly the nonclinical volunteering. I literally had nothing of the sort on my app. Hobbies could've been something too, I cut out the one experience describing my hobby so that I could include my clinical research posters - and from the stories I've read, the people who end up spending the whole interview talking about their hobbies and having a normal convo tend to get accepted way more often than not. It was also one of the first recommendations my prehealth office made to me to include, but I reluctantly cut out later because of the research. I was basically starting with 11 slots because I needed one for my four pubs, another one for three submitted pubs, one for my basic science research posters/oral presentations, and one for my clinical posters. Wasn't a great feeling in a way.

Obviously there's always more I could've done in the interviews, but out of all of the interviews, the only one I really thought went badly was the one school out of those 5 I got a hard R from. So I think I did good enough to avoid that for most of them, but my nonclinical and perhaps hobby and formal non-mentor/teaching leadership role (e.g. president of club) holes probably kept me from going over the top. Apparently all of the schools I ended up getting waitlisted at really value nonclinical volunteering in particular, which I thought I could compensate for not having by having really really good research and clinical experience and applying to explicitly research-oriented schools (based on mission.) Needless to say that was wrong, and I hope to have it rectified before my reapplication.

If you have to reapply, work on the nonclinical as well as clinical volunteering hours in the meantime. Choose the majority of schools that you apply to that fit within your MSAR stats. The writing of an application needs to meld with the experiences. Unless you are shooting for MD-PhD, don't go overboard on explanation of the publications. Have an expert go through your application to finesse the writing to bring out your best story on how you will be a quality physician. In the meantime, stay positive!
 
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Hello everyone!! I would truly appreciate anyones advice. I am a first gen, urm student. With a 3.2 gpa and 499 MCAT (and retake).I did a diy postbacc (30+ credits with a 3.9 postbacc gpa) I applied to both MD and DO schools. I was honored to receive 4 ii all from DO schools. As of now I have 3 waitlists and 1 post II rejection.

I know that I must begin the process of applying again. At the moment I applied to a masters program that has linkage to a DO school. Although I took this step I am a bit indecisive about it. Should I just retake my MCAT and apply again this upcoming cycle of nothing changes? Should I pursue this masters program if accepted?

Thank you all. I truly appreciate your help and input.
 
Hey fam, I just wanted to remind you all that it's never over until its over! This is a lesson I got to learn firsthand today.

I got 2 late II's this year, got rejected post-II from my alma mater, only to get one more interview in March from an OOS MD school. Got waitlisted there (my only WL) and my morale was low. I was preparing for another application cycle, I had just finished EMT training and was getting ready to start volunteering with hospice again, all while trying to save money to reapply, when all of a sudden - wham - I got hit with a fat A off my waitlist this morning.
 
Thank you for responding! One last question. Would it be ok to submit for this upcoming cycle with my old mcat and then send in my new score around June or July? Thank you!
 
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Thank you for responding! One last question. Would it be ok to submit for this upcoming cycle with my old mcat and then send in my new score around June or July? Thank you!
No. Your old score is doing you no favors. Schools will either wait for your new score or screen you out based on your old score. Either way, you will gain no advantage by applying without a new, significantly higher score.

You can apply early to a throwaway school to get yourself verified early, but you should not submit an application with a 499 MCAT and no retake score to any school you actually might want to interview at.
 
Hey fam, I just wanted to remind you all that it's never over until its over! This is a lesson I got to learn firsthand today.

I got 2 late II's this year, got rejected post-II from my alma mater, only to get one more interview in March from an OOS MD school. Got waitlisted there (my only WL) and my morale was low. I was preparing for another application cycle, I had just finished EMT training and was getting ready to start volunteering with hospice again, all while trying to save money to reapply, when all of a sudden - wham - I got hit with a fat A off my waitlist this morning.
You are my hero :')
 
If you have to reapply, work on the nonclinical as well as clinical volunteering hours in the meantime. Choose the majority of schools that you apply to that fit within your MSAR stats. The writing of an application needs to meld with the experiences. Unless you are shooting for MD-PhD, don't go overboard on explanation of the publications. Have an expert go through your application to finesse the writing to bring out your best story on how you will be a quality physician. In the meantime, stay positive!
Yeah I'll see if I can get more experience. I did choose my schools based off MSAR stats, but limited it to the East Coast because that's where I live and want to stay. Ended up with a list of schools with rankings evenly spread throughout the top 100 USNWR, so I think it was a good mix overall. I think at least 30-40% of my school list was in state, and all of my current waitlists are for in state schools.

When I say 4 slots were taken up by pubs/posters/presentations, it wasn't explaining them; it was citing them in MLA format. 4 pubs took up the whole 700 chars of one experience because of the formatting, and the 3 submitted took up another 700. Similar story for the posters and presentations, which I had a lot of. So unless I'm not supposed to use MLA or a proper style, I don't think there's that much I can do about that, especially if the other 3 end up getting accepted by the time of reapplication. Though in my reapp if I do end up having 7-8 pubs by then I'll probably just cut out the presentation citations and just explain that I did a bunch of them at regional/national level when I explain my research experience itself.

I'm in a tough spot with the essays because my prehealth office is way understaffed (has literally 2 advisors now vs. ~50 committee letter recipients) and wouldn't have time to read them all, especially the secondaries. They did approve my personal statement and experiences, and I think they're good editors because we've had many students get into top tier med schools from my college going through them, even this cycle. I also don't know anyone else going through this process, and I am the most fluent in English among the people I know closely, so I've largely been my own editor. I fancy myself at least decent in writing because I minored in English and a bunch of my research contributions are in the writing front (e.g. pubs), but the lack of a consistent credible second perspective definitely hurts, especially for the wealth of secondaries.
We look forward to a WAMC post from you should you not get an A soon.
Hopefully it doesn't come to that 😅

But regardless I think I'll make a post with my stats and experiences even if I get accepted (hopefully I can do that.) Largely so future applicants with similar profiles to me can avoid my mistakes and get more invites/acceptances and fewer waitlists, or it could motivate people that it's still possible to get in if you don't have absolutely everything; you just have to do what you do have really well and target the schools best for you. I dunno, but hopefully it'll be good info for someone at least 😂
 
... When I say 4 slots were taken up by pubs/posters/presentations, it wasn't explaining them; it was citing them in MLA format. 4 pubs took up the whole 700 chars of one experience because of the formatting, and the 3 submitted took up another 700. Similar story for the posters and presentations, which I had a lot of. So unless I'm not supposed to use MLA or a proper style, I don't think there's that much I can do about that, especially if the other 3 end up getting accepted by the time of reapplication. Though in my reapp if I do end up having 7-8 pubs by then I'll probably just cut out the presentation citations and just explain that I did a bunch of them at regional/national level when I explain my research experience itself.
Many of us research veterans would recommend citing the DOI references or PMED ID associated with the articles. There's also a way to embed a shortened URL to a private webpage with your list of publications if anyone wanted to look it up from your application. You could say "published n articles on research project, performed assays and analysis..." etc. We would be a bit more interested in your role in the lab over your publications even though those accomplishments are important. (This is my opinion based on faculty feedback.)
I'm in a tough spot with the essays because my prehealth office is way understaffed (has literally 2 advisors now vs. ~50 committee letter recipients) and wouldn't have time to read them all, especially the secondaries. They did approve my personal statement and experiences, and I think they're good editors because we've had many students get into top tier med schools from my college going through them, even this cycle. I also don't know anyone else going through this process, and I am the most fluent in English among the people I know closely, so I've largely been my own editor. I fancy myself at least decent in writing because I minored in English and a bunch of my research contributions are in the writing front (e.g. pubs), but the lack of a consistent credible second perspective definitely hurts, especially for the wealth of secondaries.
You can't place all the burden of reading essays on your prehealth advising office. If they have to write 50 institutional packets, they won't have time to read everyone's secondary essays. We also have our PS readers here on SDN.

I also roll my eyes if 2 advisors can't handle 50 packets as someone who had to handle so much more, and have had to review hundreds of applications every week. Sometimes at peak review, hundreds every day.
 
Getting nervous as I'm waitlisted at my top choice (state school). Weirdly enough, I would turn down my full-tuition scholarship at another school just to attend this one and stay close to home. The nerves have been off the charts and I feel like I can't do anything since I've already sent an update letter and letter of intent before the decision, and then another update letter/letter of intent after the HPWL decision. Waiting is probably the worst part of this entire process
 
Getting nervous as I'm waitlisted at my top choice (state school). Weirdly enough, I would turn down my full-tuition scholarship at another school just to attend this one and stay close to home. The nerves have been off the charts and I feel like I can't do anything since I've already sent an update letter and letter of intent before the decision, and then another update letter/letter of intent after the HPWL decision. Waiting is probably the worst part of this entire process
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Getting nervous as I'm waitlisted at my top choice (state school). Weirdly enough, I would turn down my full-tuition scholarship at another school just to attend this one and stay close to home. The nerves have been off the charts and I feel like I can't do anything since I've already sent an update letter and letter of intent before the decision, and then another update letter/letter of intent after the HPWL decision. Waiting is probably the worst part of this entire process
There's always something to worry about. Take a deep breath and recognize that you're going to be a clinician. look at the THOUSANDS of people who have zero acceptances, and really think about if this is something that should be eating you alive. Happy to PM if that didn't make sense
 
There's always something to worry about. Take a deep breath and recognize that you're going to be a clinician. look at the THOUSANDS of people who have zero acceptances, and really think about if this is something that should be eating you alive. Happy to PM if that didn't make sense
This^^^^. Someone venting on the WL support thread because their full tuition scholarship is not at their top choice is probably not going to generate a ton of sympathy. Yes, we all want what we want, but that's truly a first world problem.
 
Many of us research veterans would recommend citing the DOI references or PMED ID associated with the articles. There's also a way to embed a shortened URL to a private webpage with your list of publications if anyone wanted to look it up from your application. You could say "published n articles on research project, performed assays and analysis..." etc. We would be a bit more interested in your role in the lab over your publications even though those accomplishments are important. (This is my opinion based on faculty feedback.)

You can't place all the burden of reading essays on your prehealth advising office. If they have to write 50 institutional packets, they won't have time to read everyone's secondary essays. We also have our PS readers here on SDN.

I also roll my eyes if 2 advisors can't handle 50 packets as someone who had to handle so much more, and have had to review hundreds of applications every week. Sometimes at peak review, hundreds every day.
I'll keep all of this in mind. Thanks for the advice!
 
So I just won an award for EMS work in my community. I am WL'd at 3 schools; two of them allow updates. I already gave an update to each school, and a LOI to one of them a month ago. Should I update them on this award, or is it not good enough for an update?
 
So I just won an award for EMS work in my community. I am WL'd at 3 schools; two of them allow updates. I already gave an update to each school, and a LOI to one of them a month ago. Should I update them on this award, or is it not good enough for an update?
I think you should update them! I'm willing to bet that other ppl on SDN don't think it's good enough, but I think it's pretty significant!
 
Currently on 9 waitlists (yup you read that right) post-interview. Been updating schools but the wait has been really hard, and I'm not really sure what went wrong with my app.
I’m not usually one to think that interview performance has a huge weight on decisions, however at 9+ interviews, it has to either be poor interview skills or a red flag. If no red flag, I’d say your chances are good
 
Currently on 9 waitlists (yup you read that right) post-interview. Been updating schools but the wait has been really hard, and I'm not really sure what went wrong with my app.
Seriously, it's just too early to be thinking like that. It might have been your interviews, but you won't know until it's over. Statistically, you are highly likely to receive a few As (~3) by the time classes begin.

9+ IIs mean there was absolutely nothing wrong with your app, other than, maybe, the interview. As I said though, it's too early to make that call before WL movement really gets going. Resist the urge to fall into the SDN trap of thinking once you get to the interview that the A is yours to lose. It isn't.

Almost every school invites far more people than they have room for. Search for the LizzyM staircase analogy for a detailed explanation of how things work post interview. A very short explanation is that your interview is just one of many inputs into a decision whether to give you an A. The fact that you received an II (or 9+) is great, but you still might not make the final cut for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with interview performance or something being wrong with your application, in a process in which 60%+ are unsuccessful.

That said, WL movement is real, every year. People get called, and, believe it or not, they are all on WLs, just like you.

Yes, some already have at least one A, but many don't. And very, very, very few have 9 shots. Being patient is hard when everyone else is posting about their As, but you've done all that you can, and it really is out of your hands at this point. At least for this cycle.

My advice is to try to chill for the next few weeks. Movement is going to come and, with 9 WLs, the odds of you receiving AT LEAST one call are extremely high. Good luck!!
 
Hi! I'm waitlisted at 4 schools, but I still don't have a way to access the Choose Your Medical School (CYMS) tool. I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but is this the case for other people as well? From the CYMS tool guide PDF from the AMCAS website, it seems like even if we are just waitlisted we should be able to access the tool.
 
Hi! I'm waitlisted at 4 schools, but I still don't have a way to access the Choose Your Medical School (CYMS) tool. I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but is this the case for other people as well? From the CYMS tool guide PDF from the AMCAS website, it seems like even if we are just waitlisted we should be able to access the tool.
No. You are misreading. Once you have an A you get access to the tool, and the tool has been enhanced for 2022 to include WL schools. You don't get access to the tool until you have at least one A because there is nothing you can do with it until then (i.e., you cannot PTE or CTE a WL school).

I'm actually not sure why they even did this. While it is very lovely to be able to see WL schools, you cannot do anything with them in the tool, so it's really kind of pointless from our perspective. Yes, WL schools will be able to see whether their WL candidates are PTE/CTE elsewhere on 5/2, but candidates cannot do anything but see the schools listed.
 
No. You are misreading. Once you have an A you get access to the tool, and the tool has been enhanced for 2022 to include WL schools. You don't get access to the tool until you have at least one A because there is nothing you can do with it until then (i.e., you cannot PTE or CTE a WL school).
Oh okay. Thank you!
 
Oh okay. Thank you!
My pleasure! Believe me, you are really not missing anything.

It's just a list of schools on the home page, As and WLs. Nothing more. The tool, which only includes the A schools, is on the next page. Without at least one A, it would just be a blank screen. That's probably why they don't give it to you.

Giving it to you without you having an ability to do anything with it would probably generate more calls to customer service than the alternative. Of course, not "enhancing" it to include WL schools would have eliminated the issue altogether. 🙂
 
Call me cynical, but not all enhancements are designed to benefit the applicants. 🙂
True, true. Especially with these guys! 😎

But the fact remains that the WL schools already had the ability to run reports on us, so this "enhancement" could only have been because someone at AAMC thought it would be a cool thing to include. Again, just created problems without solving any, because now everyone with a WL and no A doesn't understand why they can't see them! 🙂
 
Stupid question here. Does having PTE to one school decrease my chances of WL>A come May 2nd? Is it feasible for a school to see that and filter me out?
 
Stupid question here. Does having PTE to one school decrease my chances of WL>A come May 2nd? Is it feasible for a school to see that and filter me out?
Yes, it is feasible. After 5/2, your WL schools will be able to see that you are PTE elsewhere. I would make the opposite argument, that seeing you've been accepted somewhere actually makes you more attractive.

In any event, unless your A is at a school that does not require a PTE selection by 5/2, it's a moot point. After all, even if your speculation is true, it's not like you would actually drop your A to increase your chances of being called off a WL, would you?
 
Yes, it is feasible. After 5/2, your WL schools will be able to see that you are PTE elsewhere. I would make the opposite argument, that seeing you've been accepted somewhere actually makes you more attractive.

In any event, unless your A is at a school that does not require a PTE selection by 5/2, it's a moot point. After all, even if your speculation is true, it's not like you would actually drop your A to increase your chances of being called off a WL, would you?
My WL school has a ranked list and I have my rank already so idk if it'd impact me. But my situation is the other way around, I currently have no A's. Just 2 IIs to 1 WL and 1 R. Could that hurt me in any way? Would my WL school be able to see where I was rejected?
 
Yes, it is feasible. After 5/2, your WL schools will be able to see that you are PTE elsewhere. I would make the opposite argument, that seeing you've been accepted somewhere actually makes you more attractive.

In any event, unless your A is at a school that does not require a PTE selection by 5/2, it's a moot point. After all, even if your speculation is true, it's not like you would actually drop your A to increase your chances of being called off a WL, would you?
I appreciate your answer. My one A has CTE deadline of Mid-July, and I’m WL’d at my top choice alma-matter state public school. Im going to hold off on selecting PTE or CTE till mid July
 
I appreciate your answer. My one A has CTE deadline of Mid-July, and I’m WL’d at my top choice alma-matter state public school. Im going to hold off on selecting PTE or CTE till mid July
The PTE deadline is May 2nd so absolutely do not wait until July. They can revoke your acceptance if you don’t PTE by that day
 
I appreciate your answer. My one A has CTE deadline of Mid-July, and I’m WL’d at my top choice alma-matter state public school. Im going to hold off on selecting PTE or CTE till mid July
I'd be very careful doing this (check the schools PTE policies) as from what I've heard schools will drop you shortly after 5/2 if you don't select them in PTE but I could be wrong. Otherwise waitlist movement would all occur a week before classes start lol and imo May is already so late/painful for movement to begin.
 
Yes, it is feasible. After 5/2, your WL schools will be able to see that you are PTE elsewhere. I would make the opposite argument, that seeing you've been accepted somewhere actually makes you more attractive.

In any event, unless your A is at a school that does not require a PTE selection by 5/2, it's a moot point. After all, even if your speculation is true, it's not like you would actually drop your A to increase your chances of being called off a WL, would you?
Neither of mine requires PTE selection by 5/2. Does that mean I should not select it to improve my chances on the waitlist?
 
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