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Any current Stanford med students here? Wanted more insight on the vibes of the class ✨ - Are the students collaborative or are they more cliquey? Does everyone know everyone given that the class size is relatively smaller than other med schools? Are there a lot of non-trads? How often do students get together for non-school related things?
Current M1 in PSTP. Class is very collaborative and chill (but very driven), legit no drama that I know of (might not be tuned into tho lol). People def have their own friend groups but no one is exclusionary. We have a lot of non-trads in the class, almost everyone has done something for a few years before med school. From my pov, people are always getting together to do stuff both in and out of friend groups. Class vibe def shifts from year to year tho. No one is "gunning" in the traditional sense and everyone is always sharing class info/anki decks in groupschats.
anyone know how common it is to get off of the waitlist at stanford?
Varies based on the year, this past year I think around 5-10ish, but I think year before it was 0. Knew some people who declined WL spot too for personal reasons. But depends on yield and admission which vary a lot based on what they are looking for. Best of luck.
Hey! I was wondering if any current students had insight into:
1) Whether or not core-clerkships will remain P/F in the future
2) How difficult the clerkships are in general (e.g. are they particularly intense? difficult to succeed in due to subjectivity?)
1. As of now, they are planning on keeping them PF, they told us this in Jan. Strongly hinted at revisiting in like 5ish years. But my guess is they will keep in the same as long as students keep wanting it/match success remains successful. As for clerkship difficulty, not too much info to give here as just M1, but as long as its PF I have heard no complaints. Will say they do toss you into clinical things earlier than it may be suggested. I know its split into 2 year "preclin" and 2 year "clin" but first year you spend two days a week learning to talk and do physicals, and second year they toss you into the ED. Happy to answer any questions here or on DM.
 
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@themagictaco thanks for answering all these questions in depth!

I was wondering if you (or other current students) had any insight into how competitive the process of getting into Berg Scholars is? I feel like it would be ideal for my situation but the website makes it sound like there's v limited spots
 
@themagictaco thanks for answering all these questions in depth!

I was wondering if you (or other current students) had any insight into how competitive the process of getting into Berg Scholars is? I feel like it would be ideal for my situation but the website makes it sound like there's v limited spots
Based on what I know most people who apply get it, it's a very self-selective program.
 
Do we know when the first session / orientation starts? Is there a bootcamp or optional summer session or anything? I need to let my boss know lol
 
Do we know when the first session / orientation starts? Is there a bootcamp or optional summer session or anything? I need to let my boss know lol
if you go to the matriculation/enrollment info tab in ur portal, it has tentative dates for everything!
 
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Varies based on the year, this past year I think around 5-10ish, but I think year before it was 0. Knew some people who declined WL spot too for personal reasons. But depends on yield and admission which vary a lot based on what they are looking for. Best of luck.
I highly, highly doubt this. No school has a yield of 90-95%, that is insane (Harvard has a yield of 70-75%). In 2020, the yield was 59%, which is more on average (152 acceptances for a class of 90; up to 62 students taken off the waitlist, only less if they accept more students than their class size initially. Not all schools do this, especially ones that expect higher yield - they accept initially only their class size).

 
I highly, highly doubt this. No school has a yield of 90-95%, that is insane (Harvard has a yield of 70-75%). In 2020, the yield was 59%, which is more on average (152 acceptances for a class of 90; up to 62 students taken off the waitlist, only less if they accept more students than their class size initially. Not all schools do this, especially ones that expect higher yield - they accept initially only their class size).

FWIW, the slack channel for accepted students has 106 members currently (small number of members are med students). I mention this because from what I understand, there are still decisions left to give for Stanford, and also, there is a very high likelihood that not all acceptees have joined the slack channel yet. With this in mind, it makes sense that Stanford over-admits initially, thus causing little waitlist movement on the back end.
 
FWIW, the slack channel for accepted students has 106 members currently (small number of members are med students). I mention this because from what I understand, there are still decisions left to give for Stanford, and also, there is a very high likelihood that not all acceptees have joined the slack channel yet. With this in mind, it makes sense that Stanford over-admits initially, thus causing little waitlist movement on the back end.
Where can I find the Slack?
 
I hope soon, this is killing me. Although the dept of education is only transmitting info like mid-March so it could be up to end of April for us to get packages 🙁
Take it with a grain of salt because this is info I got from another school with a similar FA process (Yale), but they're probably only using FAFSA to calculate federal loans. They said that their need-based grants are only dependent on CSS and their own application/documents.
 
Take it with a grain of salt because this is info I got from another school with a similar FA process (Yale), but they're probably only using FAFSA to calculate federal loans. They said that their need-based grants are only dependent on CSS and their own application/documents.
Yea fafsa only has student info for us this time around
 
I spoke with a current student who helped with admissions and he said there is a lot of waitlist movement for Stanford when I brought up that many pre med forums said there was virtually none. He said he was also a WL student that got in. I’m keeping the hope ✨ if anyone does know if they accept letters of interest post WL, please let me know, too.
 
I spoke with a current student who helped with admissions and he said there is a lot of waitlist movement for Stanford when I brought up that many pre med forums said there was virtually none. He said he was also a WL student that got in. I’m keeping the hope ✨ if anyone does know if they accept letters of interest post WL, please let me know, too.
That's good to hear. Don't they remove your update button when you get WL though? That would suggest to me they don't want to get any letters but correct me if I'm mistaken.
 
I spoke with a current student who helped with admissions and he said there is a lot of waitlist movement for Stanford when I brought up that many pre med forums said there was virtually none. He said he was also a WL student that got in. I’m keeping the hope ✨ if anyone does know if they accept letters of interest post WL, please let me know, too.
This is reassuring, though MSAR also says there's not much movement 🙁
 
Now that this year’s match list is public, does anyone have any insight into why there are only 68 listed matches for a class size of 90?

Is it just that more people than usual chose to opt out of sharing this year? Or perhaps there was a spike in students taking 5+ years? For reference, match lists in previous years had 75 in 2023, 82 in 2022, 93 in 2021, 81 in 2020, 82 in 2019, etc.

Edit: Hmm, guess I did not go far back enough. There were 62 in 2018, 67 in 2017, 74 in 2016, 74 in 2015, not posted 2014, 87 in 2013, 70 in 2012, 85 in 2011, 89 in 2010. Since 68 is within the previously observed range, it's probably nothing to be concerned about.
There isn't really anything special to say about the 68 publicly listed matches. For the entering class of 2020, more people are in MD/PhD programs or in MD/MBA programs (among other pursuits) compared to prior years. Next year it may swing back in the other direction. Since people from Stanford often decide to take extra years to graduate (~70-80% of students from each class take more than 4 years), there will be more variance in terms of the size of each graduating class compared with other schools.
 
For people who applied for financial aid, is it correct that we have to submit the 2021 federal tax return instead of the 2022 federal tax return? I feel like I submitted my parents' 2022 federal tax returns for other schools.
 
No, we should submit the 2022!
 

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We are all still waiting on financial aid offers right? I can't believe we don't have this info and have to choose a school like ten days after second look 😵

Also is everyone's FAFSA still listed as in process? (IK this school may not really use it, just checking!)
 
We are all still waiting on financial aid offers right? I can't believe we don't have this info and have to choose a school like ten days after second look 😵

Also is everyone's FAFSA still listed as in process? (IK this school may not really use it, just checking!)
Apparently a small batch of FAFSA's were disbursed to schools, but most people's FAFSAs are still being processed.
 
for the wl->R people, what did the email say? I didn't think they'd be rejecting people from the waitlist until after april 30th
 
+1 OOS WL-> R
for the WL --> R crew, did you guys just hear back today
Yes
for the wl->R people, what did the email say? I didn't think they'd be rejecting people from the waitlist until after april 30th
"The Committee on Admissions has carefully evaluated your application to Stanford Medicine and has decided to decline your application from further consideration. A position in the upcoming entering class will not be offered.

Each year we must decline many bright, promising, and accomplished applicants. I trust that you will find a place at a medical school where you will work towards a successful career in medicine. Please be aware that neither feedback on the application nor explanation of committee decisions will be provided to declined candidates.

We thank you for the time and energy invested in your application to Stanford Medicine and for your patience during the admissions process. We wish you the best in your pursuit of a career in medicine."
 
+1 OOS WL-> R

Yes

"The Committee on Admissions has carefully evaluated your application to Stanford Medicine and has decided to decline your application from further consideration. A position in the upcoming entering class will not be offered.

Each year we must decline many bright, promising, and accomplished applicants. I trust that you will find a place at a medical school where you will work towards a successful career in medicine. Please be aware that neither feedback on the application nor explanation of committee decisions will be provided to declined candidates.

We thank you for the time and energy invested in your application to Stanford Medicine and for your patience during the admissions process. We wish you the best in your pursuit of a career in medicine."
they didnt deserve u my goat
 
I got my financial aid package from Stanford. It is not as great as one of the other schools I have been accepted to which offers maximum unit loans (120k in total loans here versus 40k in total loans there). Has anyone had success with negotiating financial aid packages?
 
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