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Requested rank today and seeing 15-16 change only. Was hoping for more with UW AL at 33.
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MochiMed said:
I saw a similar thing where I moved up 17 spots from last Friday.

Are we expecting the bulk of the WL movement next week? Or is this pretty much it for the rest of the cycle?
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Process itself is brutal and now more waiting is our only option it seems. Wish more people will update SDN for this school. Not seeing many people withdrawing and last WL call here reported for rank 8-11.
 
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Are we assuming everyone followed the rules and narrowed down to one school by April 30th? What if people are still holding multiple acceptances? What are the penalties for that?

If we are assuming people followed the rules, are the chances of getting off the waitlist now contingent mainly upon those who are on the WL at other schools (and if they get off the WL there, drop their A here)?

I just love how broken this system is 🤩
 
queenanne said:
Are we assuming everyone followed the rules and narrowed down to one school by April 30th? What if people are still holding multiple acceptances? What are the penalties for that?

If we are assuming people followed the rules, are the chances of getting off the waitlist now contingent mainly upon those who are on the WL at other schools (and if they get off the WL there, drop their A here)?

I just love how broken this system is 🤩
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Don't know the answer to your questions. @JEezBurgers mentioned moved only 6 spots from April 30. Trying to cope to the fact that maybe not much WL movement this year. Same time hoping for a miracle to happen and preparing to reapply.
 
Hmm some of this math ain't mathing. I just requested my rank and it is now 15 (originally 35). If bogdan got the call just now and was originally in the range of 25-30, shouldn't my current rank be 10? If you are requesting your rank this week, let me know what it is (if you are willing to share of course). I was never good at math but I think I can do simple subtraction and addition lol. could be that they just didn't give me the most updated number.


this takes me back to the days of "if johnny has 20 watermelons and suzy has 10...." lol
 
queenanne said:
Hmm some of this math ain't mathing. I just requested my rank and it is now 15 (originally 35). If bogdan got the call just now and was originally in the range of 25-30, shouldn't my current rank be 10? If you are requesting your rank this week, let me know what it is (if you are willing to share of course). I was never good at math but I think I can do simple subtraction and addition lol. could be that they just didn't give me the most updated number.


this takes me back to the days of "if johnny has 20 watermelons and suzy has 10...." lol
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You should be rank 5 and will likely get the call very soon, fam!

There’s often a delay before the school reports it.
 
queenanne said:
Hmm some of this math ain't mathing. I just requested my rank and it is now 15 (originally 35). If bogdan got the call just now and was originally in the range of 25-30, shouldn't my current rank be 10? If you are requesting your rank this week, let me know what it is (if you are willing to share of course). I was never good at math but I think I can do simple subtraction and addition lol. could be that they just didn't give me the most updated number.


this takes me back to the days of "if johnny has 20 watermelons and suzy has 10...." lol
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equitymd25 said:
You should be rank 5 and will likely get the call very soon, fam!

There’s often a delay before the school reports it.
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..........@queenanne, if SDN is to be trusted, your rank should move by 25-30 eventually. this means your current rank should be 5 at minimum and 10 at most. there can be delays in reporting, as schools will prioritize calling applicants before updating waitlist ranks. it cannot be predicted if the waitlist will move any more. however, it is early may and the trend has historically been more movement.
 
that's another thing I was wondering, if your rank is a range/tie with other people, do you get to stay on the waitlist even if they get to your range/tie and don't pick you? i'm assuming yes and they just continue to "break the tie" as they go through that range. let me know if that makes sense haha
 
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queenanne said:
that's another thing I was wondering, if your rank is a range/tie with other people, do you get to stay on the waitlist even if they get to your range/tie and don't pick you? i'm assuming yes and they just continue to "break the tie" as they go through that range. let me know if that makes sense haha
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that is the only logical process in my mind. let us know if the call comes around. best of luck!
 
Requested rank today and another 16 change from last week. Begging those with other acceptances to withdraw and give chance to those with only one WL 😢
 
Premed_Desperate said:
Don't lose hope. Last year around 84 offers from waitlist I think. Fingers crossed for all of us WL warriors.
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It looks like last year things were moving a little quicker, at least according to last years SDN posts. But trying to hold out hope! Anyone have any ideas when the last offers were sent out last year from the WL?
 
Premed_Desperate said:
Don't lose hope. Last year around 84 offers from waitlist I think. Fingers crossed for all of us WL warriors.
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well, they sent 164 acceptances out last cycle. the dean mentioned they always over-enroll their class before creating the waitlist, and per the mid-march email this year, we can assume they over-enrolled about 13 spots. if they do this every year, then despite the 164 acceptances being sent out, only about 70 (ish) got off the waitlist eventually. last year's thread reported waitlist #69 got accepted in late may, which means esfcom potentially could have over-enrolled by 15. however, this doesn't account for waitlist movement due to people withdrawing before wsu makes then an offer. regardless, there are 18 days left in may and all we can do is hope. fingers crossed for all of us!!
 
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throwmeintothesea said:
well, they sent 164 acceptances out last cycle. the dean mentioned they always over-enroll their class before creating the waitlist, and per the mid-march email this year, we can assume they over-enrolled about 13 spots. if they do this every year, then despite the 164 acceptances being sent out, only about 70 (ish) got off the waitlist eventually. last year's thread reported waitlist #69 got accepted in late may, which means esfcom potentially could have over-enrolled by 15. however, this doesn't account for waitlist movement due to people withdrawing before wsu makes then an offer. regardless, there are 18 days left in may and all we can do is hope. fingers crossed for all of us!!

ps: I was originally ranked 38-39, and as of may 9th my rank was 5-6. go touch grass everyone!!
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Yes, that make sense. Wasn't thinking about over enrollment. I hope you get the call this week!
 
MochiMed said:
Honestly the only thing that confuses me is that I had the status of "eligible" before the WL was formed, but got ranked in the 70s when the WL began. Does anyone have any context to this?
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I too am a bit confused - my s/o was also eligible after interviewing in october and got ranked just under 50. i personally think "eligible" doesn't help applicants as much as it helps the admissions committee...it kind of sets people like us up for potential disappointment and many months of stress 🙁 but ideally, the adcom would keep the ratio of eligible:acceptances super low, but seeing as they don't provide any sort of transparency on that metric, it might just be something that they cannot predict. if it helps, though, i may forgo my rank at wsu for another school! i'm just holding out because i don't want to move across the country

fingers crossed fingers crossed for all of us!!
 
Congratulations to everyone on their acceptances! For those of you still on the wait-list-- hang in there and rooting for you.

If anyone is looking for housing, I'm a current MS2 and the house that I'm living in will have 2 rooms opening (flexible move-in between mid June and July 1st). Please let me know if you're interested and I can give more details!
 
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Just got the call to schedule a video chat with the dean! 😊

This process has been brutal and I know for certain that future applicants will come back to this forum to check/get some hope on their journey so I want to include as much info about my timeline as I can.

Interviewed on 8/30
Eligible on 10/1
WL on 3/14 (end of regular season)
Initial position on WL was 35
WL status was 21 after April 28, close to the April 30 PTE deadline (which is more of an expectation than a deadline let's be for ffr)
WL status was 15 on May 6
WL status was 2 on May 12


Future and current applicants on the WL, please remember that YOU are not the problem. This process is insanely inequitable. The fact that we could theoretically have to wait until two days before classes to find out if we are going to school is crazy. If I had any extenuating circumstances like kids or elderly caregiving responsibilities, I am not sure this process would be accessible to me. I hope that, if you are reading this, and you are in the purgatory cycle of waiting for MONTHS on end, you remember that you are awesome and that you are more than a number on someone else's ranking system.
 
Withdrawing today from WSU was a painful choice, as saying goodbye to my home state, which I also love. Congratulations to whoever is next on the waitlist!

Also, I was so impressed by the Vancouver campus; the team was so kind.
 
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queenanne said:
Just got the call to schedule a video chat with the dean! 😊

This process has been brutal and I know for certain that future applicants will come back to this forum to check/get some hope on their journey so I want to include as much info about my timeline as I can.

Interviewed on 8/30
Eligible on 10/1
WL on 3/14 (end of regular season)
Initial position on WL was 35
WL status was 21 after April 28, close to the April 30 PTE deadline (which is more of an expectation than a deadline let's be for ffr)
WL status was 15 on May 6
WL status was 2 on May 12


Future and current applicants on the WL, please remember that YOU are not the problem. This process is insanely inequitable. The fact that we could theoretically have to wait until two days before classes to find out if we are going to school is crazy. If I had any extenuating circumstances like kids or elderly caregiving responsibilities, I am not sure this process would be accessible to me. I hope that, if you are reading this, and you are in the purgatory cycle of waiting for MONTHS on end, you remember that you are awesome and that you are more than a number on someone else's ranking system.
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Congrats! I also received a call to schedule a zoom call on 5/15, and was accepted 5/16. I would also like to share my timeline as, one week ago, I was certain that I would change my plans and seek a career in bioengineering instead, and would like to offer some comfort to future or current applicants.

Submitted my secondary app on 8/24/24
Was invited to interview 10/30/24
Interviewed on 12/16/24, shortly after was considered eligible
Offered WL spot on 3/4/25
Initial WL position was 36 on 3/20/25
WL position was 15 on 5/6/25
Accepted from WL on 5/16/25

This has been such an arduous process, and I genuinely didn’t think I would get an acceptance at all. For those still on the WL, keep holding on! Anything could happen! And for those planning to apply this upcoming cycle, keep going, you’ve got this. Our world desperately needs committed and humble physicians.
 
throwmeintothesea said:
I too am a bit confused - my s/o was also eligible after interviewing in october and got ranked just under 50. i personally think "eligible" doesn't help applicants as much as it helps the admissions committee...it kind of sets people like us up for potential disappointment and many months of stress 🙁 but ideally, the adcom would keep the ratio of eligible:acceptances super low, but seeing as they don't provide any sort of transparency on that metric, it might just be something that they cannot predict. if it helps, though, i may forgo my rank at wsu for another school! i'm just holding out because i don't want to move across the country

fingers crossed fingers crossed for all of us!!
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I’m in a similar boat. I don’t want to make the move, but the situation with research funding at WSU is really freaking me out. I’ve heard a lot of chatter about it recently and it seems pretty uncertain. I think I want to do something surgical, so the budget cuts could hurt me. I don’t know how much they will impact MD students trying to get research, but they appear to be losing a lot of funding. Does anyone have more info on this?
 
hopefulpremed5 said:
I’m in a similar boat. I don’t want to make the move, but the situation with research funding at WSU is really freaking me out. I’ve heard a lot of chatter about it recently and it seems pretty uncertain. I think I want to do something surgical, so the budget cuts could hurt me. I don’t know how much they will impact MD students trying to get research, but they appear to be losing a lot of funding. Does anyone have more info on this?
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there's some info in the slack, but maybe worth sending a question through that channel for more details
 
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