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Sub-3.0 undergrad GPA,
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Significant lab bench work (6 years and some other stuff) and 2 years clinical research. Hospital volunteering for a year or two and some shadowing.
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Significant lab bench work (6 years and some other stuff) and 2 years clinical research. Hospital volunteering for a year or two and some shadowing.
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That mcat will take you places
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I still haven't heard anything as of yet. Interviewed on 9/8. Anyone who interviewed with us that day get an email or a call?
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Unfortunately, that sub 3.0 undergrad GPA will not. SMP GPA of 3.9 is in what? I know some Masters Programs that are a joke where you can easily get a 4.0 and only requires two classes a semester.
What ended up being your total cGPA and sGPA from AACOMAS?
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Masters of Biochemistry.
And unfortunately both cGPA and SGPA will be below Campbells 3.2 cutoff.
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Usually, Campbell would've just outright rejected you if you had below 3.2. The fact they put you on hold means that they're still interested.
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Why do you think you were rejected?
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They just gave me a secondary two seconds ago.
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I really don't know. I wish I did, but my interview went very well and my application I feel was very solid. I have worked in EMS since 2006, shadowed DO's and MD's. I am graduating with honors from UF in Microbiology and have written an honors thesis in plant pathology. I volunteer in my church and lead 5th grade boys youth group, I'm the treasurer of my firefighters union. I am an URM born, raised and still living in an underserved urban city. I guess its just not meant to be. Its still early in the cycle and we will see what God provides. 😉
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Sorry to hear that. I wish you the best with the rest of your applications!
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Complete today!
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Rejected pre-interview just now 🙁. cGPA 3.47, sGPA 3.68 MCAT 505. I have two other interviews scheduled, but this was definitely one of my top choice schools, so I'm bummed. Good luck to everybody interviewing!!
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ugh u guys have higher mcat scores than me and got rejected, that makes me feel that im gonna get rejected. this is like my dream school ugh, 26 mcat (8-8-10), and 3,72sgpa and 3.82cpa! but im so nervous lol
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You will get a spot some where else buddy. That really worries me; however, God has a plan for each of US. Good luck for the rest of the cycle.
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You will get a spot some where else buddy. That really worries me; however, God has a plan for each of US. Good luck for the rest of the cycle.
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Hmm, that is super weird. How well did you think you did on your interview?
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Don't be. You have a much better GPA than me.
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Just apply, because you never know what will happen until you do!
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What would you think are red flags in your app or your weaknesses? I think CUSOM is definitely raising standards this year. They're rejecting highish stat applicants.
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I have several things that could be considered "red flags". The only thing I don't understand is that they did the whole "in depth review" with the committee thing and then offered me a secondary, so I don't really understand why they would do that just to reject me afterward...
I got a REALLY low score on the chem/physics section of my MCAT (like 121 low), and I had a DUI 10 years ago. However, they knew all that stuff before my secondary, so I'm not really sure what was in my secondary that made them reject me.
I got a REALLY low score on the chem/physics section of my MCAT (like 121 low), and I had a DUI 10 years ago. However, they knew all that stuff before my secondary, so I'm not really sure what was in my secondary that made them reject me.
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We gotta keep our heads up. This cycle ain't over.
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@premed_mommy I feel your pain. For those of us who interviwed and were rejected it's even more confusing. We were all "holistically reviewed" and our stats and demographics known very well before we interviwed. Why would we all be brought in from around the US, just to be rejected? This truth is it's a process and they have a set formula they use. Whatever that is we didn't have it. The good news is we got more to come. Every no gets you closer to a yes. Don't beat yourself up too bad (speaking to myself as well, lol).
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That is the thing about applications and interviews. It requires a lot of money and effort that may or may not end with the result one desires. That is why you apply everywhere and just take things as they makes themselves available.
The cycle is still young! Keep applying, working on secondaries, and preparing for interviews. I am sure you guys will get an acceptance eventually if you keep working towards your goals!
Hey future CUSOM hopefuls,
I am a current OMS-1 and wanted to throw in my two cents. Hopefully it will encourage you and/or help prepare you for Campbell.
My abbreviated story: I applied around January, got an interview in early March and then was accepted a few days later. Now Im here! My stats weren't great, such that I didn't interview at any of the 10+ MD schools that I applied to, but during my interview here, I made sure to talk, honestly, about how I wanted to work in the area and be a part of the NC Physician force. I had only shadowed one DO for a few hours(got a letter from him***) and knew as much about DOs as wiki could tell me going into the interview. It was a great experience and I am so happy to be here. So far, it has been amazing. Med school is tough, but you can handle it. Just keep your head up during the application process because you can make it!
Some advice, don't get caught it up in all the numbers. Campbell wants good people who will make great doctors. They also have a thing for people from Utah haha. We have 13 LDS members in our class.
Like the other current students, feel free to pm me, but I don't check this as often as I used to(thankfully) so if you have anything urgent, I'd probably advise you to contact one of the other students or the admissions office directly.
I know I said to not worry about the numbers, but for comp sake here are mine: 28 MCAT, 3.75 GPA at BYU. Lots of service hours and intramurals(haha,) some research, but minimal clinical exposure/shadowing.
Good luck! I hope to see y'all next year!
Edit: I just wanted to through in that the board scores for the first years have been awesome so far, so I expect it to get a lot more difficult to get in here in the coming years.
I am a current OMS-1 and wanted to throw in my two cents. Hopefully it will encourage you and/or help prepare you for Campbell.
My abbreviated story: I applied around January, got an interview in early March and then was accepted a few days later. Now Im here! My stats weren't great, such that I didn't interview at any of the 10+ MD schools that I applied to, but during my interview here, I made sure to talk, honestly, about how I wanted to work in the area and be a part of the NC Physician force. I had only shadowed one DO for a few hours(got a letter from him***) and knew as much about DOs as wiki could tell me going into the interview. It was a great experience and I am so happy to be here. So far, it has been amazing. Med school is tough, but you can handle it. Just keep your head up during the application process because you can make it!
Some advice, don't get caught it up in all the numbers. Campbell wants good people who will make great doctors. They also have a thing for people from Utah haha. We have 13 LDS members in our class.
Like the other current students, feel free to pm me, but I don't check this as often as I used to(thankfully) so if you have anything urgent, I'd probably advise you to contact one of the other students or the admissions office directly.
I know I said to not worry about the numbers, but for comp sake here are mine: 28 MCAT, 3.75 GPA at BYU. Lots of service hours and intramurals(haha,) some research, but minimal clinical exposure/shadowing.
Good luck! I hope to see y'all next year!
Edit: I just wanted to through in that the board scores for the first years have been awesome so far, so I expect it to get a lot more difficult to get in here in the coming years.
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Can you share any info on the board scores, like what that first time pass rate was? Or average scores...? I would really like to know if possible.
As far as I know so far... 93% pass-rate on COMLEX, 100% pass-rate on USMLE. Other than that, I just know that 5-10 people got over a 700, which is an amazing score.
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Can you give me insight on how rotations are done/picked? Are the locations somewhat close so you don't have to move around? Also, what about merit scholarships? So far, I have gotten nothing about it. I really want to go to this school, but LECOM does have much cheaper tuition...
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94.1% pass rate, 100% USMLE pass rate, 7 people over 700, 23% above 600 (very impressive IMO), 61% above 500
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They're not raising standards. If you noticed, some of the people that are rejected are very strong candidates. In fact, some of the accepted people have very humble stats.
There are two things that I have picked up from this school:
1) It's very mission oriented. They actually dedicated their entire mission webpage on NC physician shortage. Even during my interview with one of the interviewers, it felt like an interrogation process in order to get a definite feel if I will stay in NC.
2) They are trying to pick the right people for their class, meaning they want students who will matriculate with an acceptance. It's more work for them if 1/2 of the accepted candidates decline their offer in Jan 2016. They know their provisional status is a tough sell to candidates with options regardless.
Here's my final thoughts. They shouldn't even invite people for interviews if they are already biased towards certain things. In the end, it's a waste of time and money on the ends of both the applicants and the school.
Good luck with the scholarship deal if you can get it.
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The question is how many people of the class is allowed to take the comlex despite the 94% pass rate. In fact, this school is very board oriented. When I was there, Joy alluded to students being given practice exams first before taking the boards. For students not making the cut, remedial actions were necessary, whatever that may mean.
are in saying that CUSOM has barrier exams?? Meaning only students who pass the exam are allowed to take the boards so the pass rate is 'inflated'?
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Wait so CUSOM definitely has barrier exams? Can a current MS1/MS2 let us know about how many students took the COMLEX out of the 150 students in the inaugural class?
If I'm not mistaken they give students about 5 weeks to study for COMLEX right?
Also am I the only one NOT concerned with the provisional accreditation? A school cannot be accredited until they graduate their first class, which for CUSOM will be in 2017. The Dean told us on the interview day that the accreditation board comes in once a year to make sure the curriculum and school is heading in the right direction. For the past 2 years CUSOM has gotten a perfect score from the accreditation board. They are going to be fully accredited in a couple of years, there's no doubt in my mind
If I'm not mistaken they give students about 5 weeks to study for COMLEX right?
Also am I the only one NOT concerned with the provisional accreditation? A school cannot be accredited until they graduate their first class, which for CUSOM will be in 2017. The Dean told us on the interview day that the accreditation board comes in once a year to make sure the curriculum and school is heading in the right direction. For the past 2 years CUSOM has gotten a perfect score from the accreditation board. They are going to be fully accredited in a couple of years, there's no doubt in my mind
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Almost every school these days makes students take practice exams before the real deal. CUSOM makes you pass a practice test first before you can sit for the boards. However, if someone fails all three practice board attempts they make them take a board prep course (for my class it was boards boot camp) and then they can take the test. So, they don't keep us from taking the boards they just make you take a prep course first if you fail all three practice tests. I'm pretty sure everyone in my class has now sat for the boards. When they gave us these board stats that I posted 3 people out of the 156 students we currently have hadn't received their scores back yet. So this data is on 153 out of 156 of our students.
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Pretty impressive for the schools first class.
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Take a deep breath everyone.
We start taking full length assesments around christmas to give us an idea of where we stand. We've got full access to truelearn and kaplans online program. Our last 4ish weeks of school is actually kaplan coming in and doing a full in session board review. As I understand it, the entire third year class took boards already. Those that didn't pass (I think 9?) go through boards bootcamp and then retake. By the time I hit the comlex I will have taken 4 full length proctored comlex assesments, sat through a month of dedicated board prep instruction an then had 6wk to take my exam. If I don't pass it should be something I saw coming a mile away....clearly almost everyone got their job done and did just fine.
We don't have carribean style "barrier" exams
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@sb247,
Do you know anything about how MS-3 and MS-4 students are assigned hospital sites for rotations (are you stuck at one place/do you move around/etc.)? Have you heard from any current MS-3 students how they like their assignments (do some locations seem better than others in regard to training, etc.)?
As a premed, I know virtually nothing about the residency match, but I understand that your third and fourth years are critical in regards to the quality of your medical training. I've read that CUSOM has already been granted accreditation as a sponsoring institution by the ACGME for its affiliated residency programs, which sounds extremely promising/reassuring, but I know that while my grades/board scores are entirely on me, I also know that I would honestly go to medical school in a dimly lit basement if it meant I would receive top-notch clinical training during my third and fourth years.
Everything about CUSOM seems top-notch to me so far. What do you know/what have you heard?
Do you know anything about how MS-3 and MS-4 students are assigned hospital sites for rotations (are you stuck at one place/do you move around/etc.)? Have you heard from any current MS-3 students how they like their assignments (do some locations seem better than others in regard to training, etc.)?
As a premed, I know virtually nothing about the residency match, but I understand that your third and fourth years are critical in regards to the quality of your medical training. I've read that CUSOM has already been granted accreditation as a sponsoring institution by the ACGME for its affiliated residency programs, which sounds extremely promising/reassuring, but I know that while my grades/board scores are entirely on me, I also know that I would honestly go to medical school in a dimly lit basement if it meant I would receive top-notch clinical training during my third and fourth years.
Everything about CUSOM seems top-notch to me so far. What do you know/what have you heard?
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our students have only been out on rotations for a few months so no major news yet but no major complaints. As for locations we have 5 "pods" or cities that we do rotations in and you select for them and move there for year 3-4 as all your rotations are in your pod. Currently fayettevile/lumberton/greensboro/somewhere near charlotte/raleigh-apex. comlex scores are good and the school is starting a bunch of residencies....a number more are in negotiation and waiting on the state to pass a budget/medicare measure.
I would also attend school in a pit in order to be a doctor, luckily Campbell offered me a pit free path 😉
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Thanks for your input!
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Great to hear! Thanks for the info. CUSOM is definitely one of my top choices!
Wait, I thought there was a pod site in Goldsboro? What happened to that?
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Typo, sorry......goldsboro is one. I keep calling the one one by charlotte "greensboro" but I think it's technically salisbury
We also have a derm residency in goldsboro
Got my interview here tomorrow. I arrived earlier today and checked the campus out and managed to speak to a few first year students studying for anatomy.
Overall impression: I think CUSOM is one of my top choices. Good luck to everyone interviewing tomorrow and see you soon!
Overall impression: I think CUSOM is one of my top choices. Good luck to everyone interviewing tomorrow and see you soon!
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Good luck to you and everyone else interviewing tomorrow!!!!!!!!
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For anyone worried about this being a new school, I want to shatter that worry right now.
I am an MS-1 here, and I am blown away at how well our curriculum was chosen, how well the faculty were chosen, and also my fellow students.
My girlfriend goes to a prestigious medical school in Michigan, and after she came down and visited she is 100% convinced that she should have come here.
The three most valuable resources in our class are our faculty, lecture/tested material, and our fellow students.
1) Most of our faculty's full time jobs is to teach, they do some research but not much. That means they don't have any other motive to be here other than they like to teach, and they do. Yeah there's a couple professors that are dry, but there are very few, I can only think of two. But overall, our faculty love us, and we love them. They always want to go the extra mile to help us learn, and always leave their doors open for us.
2) Our material is a notch above the most. I interviewed at University of Washington last year a supposed very good MD school, where I did my undergrad, and I found out that their board scores the last couple years were actually below the national average. Keep in mind this is a really competitive school, with many extremely intelligent people there. Why didn't they do well? They weren't taught right, and now they completely revamped their curriculum to change it. Our school howeever, is completely based off helping us succeed on boards. From the material in lecture to the style/type of test we do, it's getting us ready, and follows First Aid very well. I bring this up because if you want to do get into a competetive residency program, screw prestige, and go with the school with the better curriculum, whether it's CUSOM or somewhere else. A killer board score means astronomically more than what school you went to. Always. And also, our first set of board takers just took theirs this summer, and they killed it. We had a 94% pass rate, which is unheard of for a new school. My girlfriend's school gives a course pack with no pictures, no slides, just words, and they are tested on it. It's not gonna prepare her enough for boards, and she will have to study much harder than me when she gets there (we're gonna try and work out a transfer. 🙂...)
3) Even though I have only been here two months, I feel like I grew up here because of how many friends I have made and people I know that I can rely on. CUSOM really handpicks people based off their personality and willingness to work hard, and less off grades. Yes, you have to show them that you can handle med school, but if you have a good GPA or MCAT (not necessarily both, unless you were a philosophy major or something else really easy), you have shown them you can do handle it. If you are one of those cut throat my way before everyone else pre-med kids, you will not be accepted here. You won't. This school wants students who help each other. Med school is hard enough as it is, and we have to band together to get through it, not climb over top of each other. My girlfriend has almost no one to stud with and no one shares any material because they are so concerned with doing better than their fellow student, which is ridiculous.
Anyway, I love this school, and I would not want to go anywhere else that I interviewed. For those of you that are doubting whether you did everything right, you probably did. It's hard to get into medical school, and there is absolutely zero shame in not getting in the first time around. You guys still have a lot of hope, and if you need any advice for reapplying or looking better for the next year or interviewing or whatever you can IM me your situation.
Any questions you have about CUSOM I am happy to answer, either on this thread or via IM.
Good luck everyone!
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I am an MS-1 here, and I am blown away at how well our curriculum was chosen, how well the faculty were chosen, and also my fellow students.
My girlfriend goes to a prestigious medical school in Michigan, and after she came down and visited she is 100% convinced that she should have come here.
The three most valuable resources in our class are our faculty, lecture/tested material, and our fellow students.
1) Most of our faculty's full time jobs is to teach, they do some research but not much. That means they don't have any other motive to be here other than they like to teach, and they do. Yeah there's a couple professors that are dry, but there are very few, I can only think of two. But overall, our faculty love us, and we love them. They always want to go the extra mile to help us learn, and always leave their doors open for us.
2) Our material is a notch above the most. I interviewed at University of Washington last year a supposed very good MD school, where I did my undergrad, and I found out that their board scores the last couple years were actually below the national average. Keep in mind this is a really competitive school, with many extremely intelligent people there. Why didn't they do well? They weren't taught right, and now they completely revamped their curriculum to change it. Our school howeever, is completely based off helping us succeed on boards. From the material in lecture to the style/type of test we do, it's getting us ready, and follows First Aid very well. I bring this up because if you want to do get into a competetive residency program, screw prestige, and go with the school with the better curriculum, whether it's CUSOM or somewhere else. A killer board score means astronomically more than what school you went to. Always. And also, our first set of board takers just took theirs this summer, and they killed it. We had a 94% pass rate, which is unheard of for a new school. My girlfriend's school gives a course pack with no pictures, no slides, just words, and they are tested on it. It's not gonna prepare her enough for boards, and she will have to study much harder than me when she gets there (we're gonna try and work out a transfer. 🙂...)
3) Even though I have only been here two months, I feel like I grew up here because of how many friends I have made and people I know that I can rely on. CUSOM really handpicks people based off their personality and willingness to work hard, and less off grades. Yes, you have to show them that you can handle med school, but if you have a good GPA or MCAT (not necessarily both, unless you were a philosophy major or something else really easy), you have shown them you can do handle it. If you are one of those cut throat my way before everyone else pre-med kids, you will not be accepted here. You won't. This school wants students who help each other. Med school is hard enough as it is, and we have to band together to get through it, not climb over top of each other. My girlfriend has almost no one to stud with and no one shares any material because they are so concerned with doing better than their fellow student, which is ridiculous.
Anyway, I love this school, and I would not want to go anywhere else that I interviewed. For those of you that are doubting whether you did everything right, you probably did. It's hard to get into medical school, and there is absolutely zero shame in not getting in the first time around. You guys still have a lot of hope, and if you need any advice for reapplying or looking better for the next year or interviewing or whatever you can IM me your situation.
Any questions you have about CUSOM I am happy to answer, either on this thread or via IM.
Good luck everyone!
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Thank you for your insight. This school is definitely one of my top choices so far. You're right about how CUSOM picks applicants. I did get the sense at my interview where they made sure that I was the right fit for the school.
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I interviewed here today and one word can sum up my day:
WOW!!!!!
The interview was super laid back and conversational! It was as if I was talking to a professor or mentor that I've known through class! No hard questions other than the standards that you can find in the interview forums.
This school (albeit this is premature) is well on it's way to being a top 6/7 DO school in the coming years. They are doing everything right in my honest opinion. Many DO schools (outside your longstanding ones such as KCU/KCOM/PCOM/MSUCOM/NOVA/TCOM) do not have the same sim center, connections to residency spots, and desire to improve constantly as this school does. The opportunity to rotate at Wake Med and other larger cities in North Carolina is something that not many other schools offer. Additionally, even though they are a new school, they've done this before. They are attached to a larger university (campbell univ), and they have NUMEROUS post-graduate programs (Law, PA, pharmacy, soon to be nursing and engineering), so I do believe they know what they are doing. Also, for a brand new school like this to offer as many options as their sim-center does is just unheard of. After going to visit this school, they have significantly climbed up my list.
FYI:
Those who think that the area is super super rural, to each their own but many of the students have said that no matter what medical school you attend, you won't have much spare time to really explore the area other than the weekends. Raleigh is approximately 40 minutes away, and if you're feeling super ambitious, Wilmington (and the beach) is 2 hours away.
WOW!!!!!
The interview was super laid back and conversational! It was as if I was talking to a professor or mentor that I've known through class! No hard questions other than the standards that you can find in the interview forums.
This school (albeit this is premature) is well on it's way to being a top 6/7 DO school in the coming years. They are doing everything right in my honest opinion. Many DO schools (outside your longstanding ones such as KCU/KCOM/PCOM/MSUCOM/NOVA/TCOM) do not have the same sim center, connections to residency spots, and desire to improve constantly as this school does. The opportunity to rotate at Wake Med and other larger cities in North Carolina is something that not many other schools offer. Additionally, even though they are a new school, they've done this before. They are attached to a larger university (campbell univ), and they have NUMEROUS post-graduate programs (Law, PA, pharmacy, soon to be nursing and engineering), so I do believe they know what they are doing. Also, for a brand new school like this to offer as many options as their sim-center does is just unheard of. After going to visit this school, they have significantly climbed up my list.
FYI:
Those who think that the area is super super rural, to each their own but many of the students have said that no matter what medical school you attend, you won't have much spare time to really explore the area other than the weekends. Raleigh is approximately 40 minutes away, and if you're feeling super ambitious, Wilmington (and the beach) is 2 hours away.
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I got invited to write an essay for a merit scholarship by mail today (only Dean's Scholarship, although my stats qualify me for Presidential.) I have about two weeks to submit it. I might call CUSOM as to why I didn't qualify for the Presidential.
Time to start thinking about NC's healthcare system.
Time to start thinking about NC's healthcare system.
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