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Other questions: What type of abilities would we expect from lucifer based off series? What about alpha vampire?
Hm. Lucifer is pretty high-powered. I haven't seen the latest seasons, but there pretty much isn't anything he's not capable of. Hm lets see. He can be caged. Sam is his perfect human vessel.

Alpha vampire? Vampires suck blood. Like many other monsters (werewolves etc.) they can make more monsters. I dunno. You could make just about any WW ability fit these two.
 
Day 4 - We Have Work For You Lynch Tally

PBC (4)
- raf, Ferny, lupachei, sobsob

A disturbing lack of ties
Waffles: 0
4/14 votes

Lynch deadline...9.5ish hours (9pm EST)

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Hm. Lucifer is pretty high-powered. I haven't seen the latest seasons, but there pretty much isn't anything he's not capable of. Hm lets see. He can be caged. Sam is his perfect human vessel.

Alpha vampire? Vampires suck blood. Like many other monsters (werewolves etc.) they can make more monsters. I dunno. You could make just about any WW ability fit these two.
Do you feel item maker fit best with lucifer then?

@WildZoo - can we assume that write up is not flare in that the person who did the kill, did the kill?

Edit: can you think of anther character that an item maker could make sense for?
 
Can anyone think of a reason why lynch avoidance would not be a wolfy trait in this instance?

I know in the Vet game, I had lynch and night kill avoidance, but I was a neutral player existing to keep up with the fun.
 
Can anyone think of a reason why lynch avoidance would not be a wolfy trait in this instance?

I know in the Vet game, I had lynch and night kill avoidance, but I was a neutral player existing to keep up with the fun.
I don't think it is the avoidance itself that was 100% wolfy, it was PBC's lack of defense followed by the "oh I wasn't even paying attention. I'm just vanilla now." That has a ring of falsity to it that makes me go to the red line instead of green.
 
Can anyone think of a reason why lynch avoidance would not be a wolfy trait in this instance?

I know in the Vet game, I had lynch and night kill avoidance, but I was a neutral player existing to keep up with the fun.
There are plenty of "good" characters that have avoided death or come back from death but there are also plenty of "bad" ones. (lines of good vs bad are somewhat fuzzy in this show if you haven't noticed). I think it could easily be a wolf or villager ability. I do agree with Lupin that the lack of defense yesterday was a little bothersome.
 
I don't think it is the avoidance itself that was 100% wolfy, it was PBC's lack of defense followed by the "oh I wasn't even paying attention. I'm just vanilla now." That has a ring of falsity to it that makes me go to the red line instead of green.
Yeah I agree with that. It's just... weird all in all.
 
I don't think it is the avoidance itself that was 100% wolfy, it was PBC's lack of defense followed by the "oh I wasn't even paying attention. I'm just vanilla now." That has a ring of falsity to it that makes me go to the red line instead of green.
The lynch train went after me with like 20 minutes left, and it wasn't a bandwagon - I literally won with just a handful of votes. Damn right I wasn't paying attention. I was trying to catch up, sort out my assassin thoughts, find the game rules to check plurality. I wasn't even on the current game page for most of those 20 min. I would have revealed my avoidance if I could have.

No, it's fine, don't believe anything I say. No one ever does.
 
The lynch train went after me with like 20 minutes left, and it wasn't a bandwagon - I literally won with just a handful of votes. Damn right I wasn't paying attention. I was trying to catch up, sort out my assassin thoughts, find the game rules to check plurality. I wasn't even on the current game page for most of those 20 min. I would have revealed my avoidance if I could have.

No, it's fine, don't believe anything I say. No one ever does.
why are you responding to this one rather than my direct quote of you on who you would like to lynch today or talk about?
 
The lynch train went after me with like 20 minutes left, and it wasn't a bandwagon - I literally won with just a handful of votes. Damn right I wasn't paying attention. I was trying to catch up, sort out my assassin thoughts, find the game rules to check plurality. I wasn't even on the current game page for most of those 20 min. I would have revealed my avoidance if I could have.

No, it's fine, don't believe anything I say. No one ever does.
So you were around at lynch close and not even checking on what was happening? Even if you were busy looking into other things this seems odd.
 
There are plenty of "good" characters that have avoided death or come back from death but there are also plenty of "bad" ones. (lines of good vs bad are somewhat fuzzy in this show if you haven't noticed). I think it could easily be a wolf or villager ability. I do agree with Lupin that the lack of defense yesterday was a little bothersome.
I WASN'T A REAL CANDIDATE UNTIL I VOICED MY VMH CONCERNS. I had 20 minutes, and I want aware of my votes until it was too late.

What, should I ability reveal with one lynch vote? Because that's what I would have had to do to appease you all.
 
What am I still supposed to accomplish in 20 minutes with a computer who's as slow as the devil? Come on. I wasn't in danger until the last few minutes. The timing sucked, and there was absolutely nothing I could go.

It's not like I spent an entire day leading to guys on. But sure, anything looks wolfy if you look at it through red goggles.
 
PBC.

The lynch train went after me with like 20 minutes left, and it wasn't a bandwagon - I literally won with just a handful of votes. Damn right I wasn't paying attention. I was trying to catch up, sort out my assassin thoughts, find the game rules to check plurality. I wasn't even on the current game page for most of those 20 min. I would have revealed my avoidance if I could have.

No, it's fine, don't believe anything I say. No one ever does.
why are you responding to this one rather than my direct quote of you on who you would like to lynch today or talk about?
 
You posted this on the thread 5 min before close. Not 20 min
I was around the last 20 min catching up. There were two full pages I needed to read. Come on, if I was still reading posts and deciding who to vote for, was I watching myself take the lead? Nope.
 
PBC.


why are you responding to this one rather than my direct quote of you on who you would like to lynch today or talk about?
SOV. He conveniently forgot that the wolf seer is dead, he has a questionable voting record - I like him today.
 
Just hypothesizing on game mechanics for a bit:
Looks like should be four originals: alpha shapeshifter, alpha werewolf, alpha vampire, lucifer. They had 1 conversion, which if I had to guess, DocE wouldn't have used that early and died with him. 1 chaos in the form of Crowley maybe? 1 neutral in the form of Gabriel maybe? But if that is the case, Dubz would have balanced in a ratio of less than 1:3, so fairly Wolf heavy, especially with the abilities thus far for wolves (and lucifer still in the game), with a fair number of vanilla villagers (so village power roles weren't used to combat it). Especially the case if ski is village and her first item wasn't a village power item (a diary.... But could also be a wolf trying to look helpful without being too helpful).

Jailing would not make any sense whatsoever with lucifer/alpha vampire, right?
 
So you were around at lynch close and not even checking on what was happening? Even if you were busy looking into other things this seems odd.
I'm not as bothered by this as you guys are. My friend left almost exactly at lynch close. I had only minutes to 9. I figured it would be too late to push a lynch off myself if it veered in that direction and I was too behind to cast an informed vote so I left mine where it was. I was also around in the minutes before lynch close but chose to start catching up instead of jumping ahead to current action.

As for PBC's role claim, it would fit nicely with John Winchester. IIRC he was resurrected by Mary when she made a deal with Azazel. Of course he then died for realz later.

Plenty of characters have died and been resurrected, and narrowing it down to a demon deal helps a little. Dean was resurrected due to a demon deal but he's died and come back several times since then so meh.

Yeah I'm not as sold on PBC. Are we going to ignore Gabriel's warning about STL? And if yes, are we going to ignore STL's intel on Fern?
 
I would think forgetting a wolf was dead is more a villager thing. wolves know damn well who is dead. lol

It's such an 'I'm innocent, I didn't remember this because I'm not a wolf!' thing though. Sure villagers might forget, but it's only D4 . . . It was weird.
 
I'm not as bothered by this as you guys are. My friend left almost exactly at lynch close. I had only minutes to 9. I figured it would be too late to push a lynch off myself if it veered in that direction and I was too behind to cast an informed vote so I left mine where it was. I was also around in the minutes before lynch close but chose to start catching up instead of jumping ahead to current action.

As for PBC's role claim, it would fit nicely with John Winchester. IIRC he was resurrected by Mary when she made a deal with Azazel. Of course he then died for realz later.

Plenty of characters have died and been resurrected, and narrowing it down to a demon deal helps a little. Dean was resurrected due to a demon deal but he's died and come back several times since then so meh.

Yeah I'm not as sold on PBC. Are we going to ignore Gabriel's warning about STL? And if yes, are we going to ignore STL's intel on Fern?
What would you propose my role would be then if it's not Gabriel/not Crowley and you think I am some form of chaos/neutral? (If I recall correctly, it said something about me looking out for myself)
 
It's such an 'I'm innocent, I didn't remember this because I'm not a wolf!' thing though. Sure villagers might forget, but it's only D4 . . . It was weird.
I don't think that has ever been part of SOV's wolf play. Definitely a far reach in my mind. Who else do you have in your suspect box?
 
her first item wasn't a village power item (a diary.... But could also be a wolf trying to look helpful without being too helpful).
This item I didn't write up myself. I tried, but with my limited knowledge of the series and after googling for 2 hours to find an object that could do what I wanted it to do and would be accepted by the mods (my attempt was rejected because the object I picked apparently wasn't something that would work for the item I wanted), I ended up just requisitioning the item and the mods wrote it up for me. The way this specific item was written, it is possible that it could have benefitted the wolves (didn't get the wording of it until N2 results, so I didn't know this until after it was sent out that it could help either side).
Last nights item I wrote myself and was something that wouldn't help the wolves, which I made sure of.

Lunch break is over now so I'll be back later.
 
I don't think that has ever been part of SOV's wolf play. Definitely a far reach in my mind. Who else do you have in your suspect box?
I'm also down for Hyge, despite her role claim. I voted her way yesterday. As much as a love chaos, I don't know why we'd turn a blind eye to BBC, who possibly had that role - she doesn't count for village numbers (if she is chaos) and I do, so that makes sense to me, even if she's not a hugely malicious chaos.
 
This item I didn't write up myself. I tried, but with my limited knowledge of the series and after googling for 2 hours to find an object that could do what I wanted it to do and would be accepted by the mods (my attempt was rejected because the object I picked apparently wasn't something that would work for the item I wanted), I ended up just requisitioning the item and the mods wrote it up for me. The way this specific item was written, it is possible that it could have benefitted the wolves (didn't get the wording of it until N2 results, so I didn't know this until after it was sent out that it could help either side).
Last nights item I wrote myself and was something that wouldn't help the wolves, which I made sure of.

Lunch break is over now so I'll be back later.
You will understand my Skepticism of how that could be a bit sketch....
 
I am assuming that would be a baddy, no? Or is he a good demon?

He's a tough one. He helps the good guys but usually under duress. I'd guess baddie or chaos. Unless there was some change in more recent seasons that I haven't seen.
I think the Crowley question gets a bit more complex with later seasons, where he definitely helps the Winchesters out a lot even if it isn't always 100% in his best interest (see end of most recent season for a good example 😢). Crowley still very much prioritizes his #1 but he's been known to team up with the Winchesters extensively, especially if Lucifer is in play because he sees that guy as the #1 threat to himself. In a game with Lucifer as a main wolf I could see Crowley leaning more toward a village or neutral alignment rather than wolf.
Just hypothesizing on game mechanics for a bit:
Looks like should be four originals: alpha shapeshifter, alpha werewolf, alpha vampire, lucifer. They had 1 conversion, which if I had to guess, DocE wouldn't have used that early and died with him. 1 chaos in the form of Crowley maybe? 1 neutral in the form of Gabriel maybe? But if that is the case, Dubz would have balanced in a ratio of less than 1:3, so fairly Wolf heavy, especially with the abilities thus far for wolves (and lucifer still in the game), with a fair number of vanilla villagers (so village power roles weren't used to combat it). Especially the case if ski is village and her first item wasn't a village power item (a diary.... But could also be a wolf trying to look helpful without being too helpful).

Jailing would not make any sense whatsoever with lucifer/alpha vampire, right?
Jailing could make sense with Lucifer. He was trapped in a cage in hell to keep him from starting the apocalypse or whatever but when he got put back in it he dragged a few people with him and trapped them in there. He has a tendency to trick people into the cage and trap them in it so I could see it being in his wheelhouse.

That being said, a jailing ability could potentially be a village one depending on character. There are a few law enforcement characters on the show (Jodi Mills) who could probably do it as well. I guess part of the question here is whether we think the cdo block was a wolf move or a village one.
 
This item I didn't write up myself. I tried, but with my limited knowledge of the series and after googling for 2 hours to find an object that could do what I wanted it to do and would be accepted by the mods (my attempt was rejected because the object I picked apparently wasn't something that would work for the item I wanted), I ended up just requisitioning the item and the mods wrote it up for me. The way this specific item was written, it is possible that it could have benefitted the wolves (didn't get the wording of it until N2 results, so I didn't know this until after it was sent out that it could help either side).
Last nights item I wrote myself and was something that wouldn't help the wolves, which I made sure of.

Lunch break is over now so I'll be back later.
So basically . . . Your item was sketch but it wasn't your fault, since you just requested it. Um. Okay.
 
I think the Crowley question gets a bit more complex with later seasons, where he definitely helps the Winchesters out a lot even if it isn't always 100% in his best interest (see end of most recent season for a good example 😢). Crowley still very much prioritizes his #1 but he's been known to team up with the Winchesters extensively, especially if Lucifer is in play because he sees that guy as the #1 threat to himself. In a game with Lucifer as a main wolf I could see Crowley leaning more toward a village or neutral alignment rather than wolf.

Jailing could make sense with Lucifer. He was trapped in a cage in hell to keep him from starting the apocalypse or whatever but when he got put back in it he dragged a few people with him and trapped them in there. He has a tendency to trick people into the cage and trap them in it so I could see it being in his wheelhouse.

That being said, a jailing ability could potentially be a village one depending on character. There are a few law enforcement characters on the show (Jodi Mills) who could probably do it as well. I guess part of the question here is whether we think the cdo block was a wolf move or a village one.
I *think* it was a village move, and it's less bc cdo was blocked and more bc I was blocked when people were suspicious of me the day before. Just wanted to see if there was any lore behind any of the main wolves having the possibility of a jailing ability.
 
So you were around at lynch close and not even checking on what was happening? Even if you were busy looking into other things this seems odd.
Not that it changes my vote...but this is believable...cause it happens to me... almost did yesterday. It takes so long to catch up, and sometimes I will reply to something as I read before I finish all posts....then by the time you are caught up it is too late.

Still I am stuck on the term death avoidance. Just sounds like a lame made up term.
 
If I were a seer, I would look into the under the radar people. RAF and SARS. Mainly because if you are a noob wolf with DocE you aren't going to say much or do much....you would defer to him I would think.
 
If I were a seer, I would look into the under the radar people. RAF and SARS. Mainly because if you are a noob wolf with DocE you aren't going to say much or do much....you would defer to him I would think.
raf was at least on the snowy lynch d1, so I have her lower on my suspect list.
 
It's such an 'I'm innocent, I didn't remember this because I'm not a wolf!' thing though. Sure villagers might forget, but it's only D4 . . . It was weird.
I didn't make any claim of forgetting, cause I didn't, I am assuming there is something going on there.. multiple seers or the like, not sure what...Just all seemed too coincidental. I wouldn't even call it strategy... ore amazement that we have lost so many key roles already.
 
I'm also down for Hyge, despite her role claim.
Cute. Fine, enjoy your lynch.

FWIW, PBC could still be village. Villagers seem to push hardest for my lynch in games past. Wolves don't mind me sticking around because I am sketch enough to distract the hoi polloi. But feel free to lynch her.

I am more sketched by Ski's claim. It would not require 2 hours of googling to make an item, and the whole story sounds like BS.

For now, ***lynch Ski.***
 
Day 4 - We Have Work For You Lynch Tally

PBC (5)
- raf, Ferny, lupachei, sobsob, vmh
BBC (1) - PBC
ski (1) - hyge

A disturbing lack of ties
Waffles: 1
7/14 votes

Lynch deadline...8.5ish hours (9pm EST)

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I am more sketched by Ski's claim. It would not require 2 hours of googling to make an item, and the whole story sounds like BS.

For now, ***lynch Ski.***
I thought the same. Especially since she kept yelling at me about how busy she was. Idk. It's definitely a red flag for me...
 
You will understand my Skepticism of how that could be a bit sketch....

So basically . . . Your item was sketch but it wasn't your fault, since you just requested it. Um. Okay.
Yeah, I know. I could have not told you this part at all and just left it, but I'm trying to be honest. I knew everyone would find it sketchy, but I put it out there anyway because it's kind of an important distinction if you knew what the actual item was. I don't know when my items have to be used (like if they have to use them within the next cycle or if they can save it and use it whenever during the game, mods wouldn't tell me when I asked, just got shrugging gifs back, thanks Subs) so I'm a bit wary of revealing what the item was.
I am more sketched by Ski's claim. It would not require 2 hours of googling to make an item, and the whole story sounds like BS.
It does when you have to find some object from the supernatural series that you could stretch to fit what you want it to do. My original attempt apparently was too far from what that object actually is used for, so it was rejected. At this point, I've seen maybe 8 episodes. I don't know the majority of the objects that are present in the series and had to google a list of spn objects and just start clicking links and reading.

Edit: spelling
 
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Yeah, I know. I could have not told you this part at all and just left it, but I'm trying to be honest. I knew everyone would find it sketchy, but I put it out there anyway because it's kind of an important distinction if you knew what the actual item was. I don't know when my items have to be used (like if they have to use them within the next cycle or if they can save it and use it whenever during the game, mods wouldn't tell me when I asked, just got shrugging gifs back, thanks Subs) so I'm a bit weary of revealing what the item was.

It does when you have to find some object from the supernatural series that you could stretch to fit what you want it to do. My original attempt apparently was too far from what that object actually is used for, so it was rejected. At this point, I've seen maybe 8 episodes. I don't know the majority of the objects that are present in the series and had to google a list of spn objects and just start clicking links and reading.
Did you choose who you send items to, or does it just go into circulation?
 
She has pets doing her bidding, which from lore seems like indicates Crowley, and they believe Crowley is chaos. I am not 1000% convinced yet based on how ambiguous he(?) is.
Yes, there are a lot of ifs built in to this.

However: worth saying that I cannot think of a good character in the series who has pets that do their bidding.
 
I do not choose who they go to. They're made and sent into the abyss. And they're one and done so they're not RNGed out again (I asked).
Gotcha. It doesn't sound that sketch to me honestly, because it already seems like we have a good bit of investigative villager roles, so item maker would have to be limited for balance.
 
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