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Anyway I'm probably just gonna continue down my road of avenging fruit, it's working so far
I guess because of the lower posting (as ive already said i found high posters make me wary but clearly that doesnt mean anything) and seemed genuine. Idk im **** at read’s apparently lolhey kitz
You first said that PSV was your top townread before the AtE stuff started.
So ... why were you townreading her?
So why are zenge and cg on the list for yeeting? Was probably going to move my vote off a samac (esp since there is a 3 way tie) but trying to think where to put it
If there was a gun to my head maybe dubz or shorty but i couldnt articulate why
I guess to me (because i am not following as closely/intently?) the high posts = a bit straw grabby, trying to point fingers where i’m not really seeing a lot of evidence to point at and a way to misdirect. But that could also be me!
I will say after seeing someone consolidate all of the fruit flip flop votes that did ping me pretty hard as scummy, as someone who doesnt like to change votes and flop around
I havent decided who i am voting on tomorrow yet. (If i make it through tonight lol)
bolding mineI think i feel most confident in thinking PSV is village. I think rae may be as welli also need to go back and find a list of everyone in the game lol
I feel like i havent seen enough of barks or beans to make foo much of an informed decision, but trying to not weigh that too much cause im also not on here a ton i feel lol
Man this thinking sheet is hard lol
Lmao i feel like im taking a failing test
Vibes. PSV seems pure lol
Rae idk. Again vibe
Aaaand now i have to go to class rip
So I've gone back and thought about this a lot, I had inklings yesterday, and I kept digging and I have a really bad feeling about PSV.
Lets look at the facts:
1. She's one of the players who could in theory have not been given any town options at all.
2. She's one of the players who claimed Vanilla Townie for affiliation, which is where scum likes to hide.
3. For being fairly Town read, she's not dead.
4. I really didn't like the way she kind of tried pushing Samac yesterday. It felt a little like a manufactured "got ya" moment to try and get Samac out early.
5. I also really didn't like how she handled my slot at all. She was bandwagoning and hopping on the vote when it was convenient. Village!PSV wouldn't do that. She wanted a player she knows is a good scum hunter out early on a misyeet. Same way she tried to handle Samac's slot.
6. She's really been pretty lackluster in her posts and just sort of floating in the background. And it goes beyond not just being here as much. Her thoughts feel crowdsourced from ideas on the consensus rise.
7. Whatever arguments you have related to how you think she "sounds village" because you think she's scum hunting - THIS IS MULTIBALL - Scum hunts Scum. Of course she sounds like she's scum hunting, she is, kind of - scum is a threat to her just as much as it is to village. But not hard enough to get night killed. PSV is not village here - I feel it in my bones.
I've read village PSV, I have a nose for village PSV. This isn't it. She's scum hunting, sure, kind of... But she's not on our side. She's not town.
Ngl head empty and havent even been thinking about that since i didnt have that ability this game
After sleep i am leaning more towards voting fruit or beans or barks. I didnt like all of fruits vote flips but he did explain his thought process if i recall
Yeet fruits
Just to have something on the board since who in the heck knows how much i will be on today/night (birthday dayyy 🎉)
For me, i dont like the random voting but i appreciate the insight he gave for later votes with reasonings. Its just a very different style from me which may be why it bothers me.
Also, tone reminds me a bit of spurs right before vote close. Which could be nothing (since i know i was getting frustrated getting grilled by shorty the other day when idk how to answer more clearly other than trust me bro lol)
So suffice to say not a super confident vote, but a couple things that bothered me
Unyeet fruit
Yeet zenge
All of this post was weird to me at the time it was made. I put in a SIGNIFICANT effort to give PSV a fair chance to help me find her, if town. It was hardly participating in a pile-on.I dont like their strong push (or what it seems to be to me) to PSV who is one of my stronger town reads. And i feel like they started a snowball that shorty is also participating in that will end with PSV being misyeeted
Unyeet zenge
Yeet beans
Unyeet beans
Yeet barks
Finally home and scarfing down bday dinner and remembered its almost closing time
I think psv is town and my vote wasnt gonna be useful otherwise. And i could get behind barks
I cant believe PSV was actually wolf. I was so convinced on town
Can you answer the question I asked you earlier about how your reads have changed now following PSV's flip, please?I guess because of the lower posting (as ive already said i found high posters make me wary but clearly that doesnt mean anything) and seemed genuine. Idk im **** at read’s apparently lol
Reevaluate what exactly?kitz's first post calling PSV pure is before Zenge's push there even started, so her response to me that it was related to the AtE isn't true.
Any bolding in these quotes is my own. This isn't quite her full ISO, and I didn't do a full analysis like I did earlier on beans because I'm actually trying to go to bed, but I wasn't going to be able to sleep if I didn't compile these and look at them, even if it means I go back later and look at it again to add more thoughts.
bolding mine
Here's the start of Zenge's PSV push. I just included this in here because all of these are in chronological order.
All of this post was weird to me at the time it was made. I put in a SIGNIFICANT effort to give PSV a fair chance to help me find her, if town. It was hardly participating in a pile-on.
I'm starting to get a little worried about the possibility that I need to reevaluate here.
My read on you.Reevaluate what exactly?
What page is it on (im also getting reDy for bed)Can you answer the question I asked you earlier about how your reads have changed now following PSV's flip, please?
It's this with the bolded word added bc I don't feel like going back to find it either lolhow have your reads have changed now following PSV's flip, please?
Do you think they're paired? Bc it seemed like she was village reading psv around bussing time, rather than pairing timekitz's first post calling PSV pure is before Zenge's push there even started, so her response to me that it was related to the AtE isn't true.
I'm starting to get a little worried about the possibility that I need to reevaluate here.
I don't know, and I'm not sure I can put much stock in that either way because kitz hasn't been around on the thread very much. I'm just concerned I cleared the slot for the wrong reasons and am not sure she's been all that towny since.Do you think they're paired? Bc it seemed like she was village reading psv around bussing time, rather than pairing time
I see a zenge/samac pair now and idk if thats a good or bad thing. I could still see clem involved in that trio, or separatelyIt's this with the bolded word added bc I don't feel like going back to find it either lol
Has dubz even posted anything before she died?Did le nooblet just call me MIA
Idk my eyes glaze over you hahaDid le nooblet just call me MIA
To add: i fear i am too trusting and that will be my downfall. The only reason i aint dead i feel is because im not really contributing anything useful i feelI see a zenge/samac pair now and idk if thats a good or bad thing. I could still see clem involved in that trio, or separately
Dubz/sar = MIA. havent seen enough to see anything particularly useful
You are more town to me now, or at minimum a different faction than PSV. again if good or bad, idk.
Beans/barks are paired in my mind
How common are pairs? Its unlikely that if there are multiple scums/wolf factions they are lone correct?
Also did PSV’s ability do anything useful/can you tell if she used it?
And tbh i still find fruits day killing very troublesome but i am not sure who would hVe done it
Im sorryyyyyAm I hurt? Yes
Am I offended? Yes
Am I surprised that someone else is admitting to not reading my posts after how Spurs paid for saying such things? Also yes
Am I hurt? Yes
Am I offended? Yes
Am I surprised that someone else is admitting to not reading my posts after how Spurs paid for saying such things? Also yes
1) not forgiven, probablyIm sorryyyyy
Is that a threat
I was sbout to double check but i was fairly certain you were jokingShould I tell le nooblet I'm joking or
That's my secret, I'm always jokingI was sbout to double check but i was fairly certain you were joking
Thank you for this.I see a zenge/samac pair now and idk if thats a good or bad thing. I could still see clem involved in that trio, or separately
Dubz/sar = MIA. havent seen enough to see anything particularly useful
You are more town to me now, or at minimum a different faction than PSV. again if good or bad, idk.
Beans/barks are paired in my mind
How common are pairs? Its unlikely that if there are multiple scums/wolf factions they are lone correct?
Also did PSV’s ability do anything useful/can you tell if she used it?
And tbh i still find fruits day killing very troublesome but i am not sure who would hVe done it

Town -> scumThank you for this.
My final question for you tonight bc I'm breaking my own rule and posting this from bed, is if you could organize your reads from towny to scummy. Forget about trying to pair people, just based on the flips we've had so far, where would you put them? It's okay to have a neutrals where you're not sure, but it would be helpful to know where you're at on a more linear scale.
It doesn't have to be in categories of gum flavor like I did lol
Wait what happened to all the other people you mentioned?Town -> scum
Sar
Dubz
Beans
Barks
Samac
Zenge
Bed time 😴
You forgor meTown -> scum
Sar
Dubz
Beans
Barks
Samac
Zenge
Bed time 😴
I guess this is really just me and Clem and apop.Wait what happened to all the other people you mentioned?
I think kitz is village simply bc this is probably exactly reversed to what I would pickTown -> scum
Sar
Dubz
Beans
Barks
Samac
Zenge
Bed time 😴
Have you even posted?You forgor me
r u sayin ur not village 🤨I think kitz is village simply bc this is probably exactly reversed to what I would pick
You know what I don't think I haveHave you even posted?
You would have me below barks and beans?!I think kitz is village simply bc this is probably exactly reversed to what I would pick
Well. Then you'll be top town in kitz's next list!You know what I don't think I have
👀 👀 👀 👀r u sayin ur not village 🤨
BUSTED👀 👀 👀 👀
Who's gonna get me? The cop? Too late!BUSTED
Besides that part. I think you're village. Idk why PSV would clear you if notYou would have me below barks and beans?!
Why on earth is zenge your scummiest??
I knew it. He's the aliens, guys!!
Put the phone away!I really should not be WWing from bed. I'm going to regret it so much when I can't turn my brain off and get any sleep.
Well, she didn't clear me, she just said I'm not mafia. Obviously I'm not a wolf either. But there's nothing stopping me from being a serial killer I guess.Besides that part. I think you're village. Idk why PSV would clear you if not
The last thing I want is to be 3amISO!shorty again.
shorty pls it's only N2View attachment 412688
3amISO!shorty made this back in the day before I got more of a reputation for being good at endgame and stopped living to endgame