Game Thread: Meats's Reading List: WWhat I Read in 2019

[mizchiefmanaged]

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Not confident with MsP, BC, or Jboo. Also moderately WZ. Those are my wolf leans right now.

Despite PMing BC a lot in the beginning I didn’t get strong village vibes from her. Nothing strikingly wolfy but nothing that made me comfortable.

I’m sorry Pip but you’re going to get wishy washy right now. I don’t get good information from my role. I pop on in between our appointments and breeding mares. Today is busy. I wasn’t busy yesterday at all but someone went and silenced me and then everyone and their mother decided I was at the top of their wolf reads (which is fun).

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Yes I can imagine that is frustrating lol

You literally have no idea.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not confident with MsP, BC, or Jboo. Also moderately WZ. Those are my wolf leans right now.

Despite PMing BC a lot in the beginning I didn’t get strong village vibes from her. Nothing strikingly wolfy but nothing that made me comfortable.

I’m sorry Pip but you’re going to get wishy washy right now. I don’t get good information from my role. I pop on in between our appointments and breeding mares. Today is busy. I wasn’t busy yesterday at all but someone went and silenced me and then everyone and their mother decided I was at the top of their wolf reads (which is fun).

Which one do you feel most strongly about? Because some of these reads are incompatible with the others. Also your role ability isn't necessary for solving the game/having strong reads. We just did Basics with no issue.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Which one do you feel most strongly about? Because some of these reads are incompatible with the others. Also your role ability isn't necessary for solving the game/having strong reads. We just did Basics with no issue.

That’s true but my village reads that game also wound up being wolves and I only changed those reads about 3/4 into the game. My reads are obviously better when I have information.

I feel most strongly about jboo and BC, I think. Why are they incompatible? Until someone flips any one of them, or multiple, could be wolves.

 

[Animal Midwife]

That’s true but my village reads that game also wound up being wolves and I only changed those reads about 3/4 into the game. My reads are obviously better when I have information.

I feel most strongly about jboo and BC, I think. Why are they incompatible? Until someone flips any one of them, or multiple, could be wolves.

JBOOSE has been pushing BC for days now. BC is now returning the favor, it seems. Still good to have a stance or at least question/pressure them to the point where they're further clarified as wolf or village.

 

[Coopah]

Probably no one because night was cancelled

Ah **** I forgot

 

[Coopah]

Which one do you feel most strongly about? Because some of these reads are incompatible with the others. Also your role ability isn't necessary for solving the game/having strong reads. We just did Basics with no issue.

Actually I used my seer ability to solve the game in the last few days 😛 otherwise I wouldn't have been able to push Genny so hard or get a lock on dolphin

 

[Coopah]

JBOOSE has been pushing BC for days now. BC is now returning the favor, it seems. Still good to have a stance or at least question/pressure them to the point where they're further clarified as wolf or village.

I mean I have them both wolfy, why can't they just be creating distance? Besides it sure hasn't been a firm push. Just a vote

 

[Animal Midwife]

Actually I used my seer ability to solve the game in the last few days 😛 otherwise I wouldn't have been able to push Genny so hard or get a lock on dolphin

smh I had all wolves even before your reveal. Y'all were a motion detector functionally. 😛

 

[Coopah]

smh I had all wolves even before your reveal. Y'all were a motion detector functionally. 😛

Ooooooh well sooooorry! To bad you didn't communicate that in any way before you died 😉 (ok shutting up now because not relevant)

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean I have them both wolfy, why can't they just be creating distance? Besides it sure hasn't been a firm push. Just a vote

Context as always. If MsP is village, why continue to draw attention away from her and onto a partner (and a damn valuable one at that)?

 

[Coopah]

Context as always. If MsP is village, why continue to draw attention away from her and onto a partner (and a damn valuable one at that)?

... What makes you think the partner is valuable?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ooooooh well sooooorry! To bad you didn't communicate that in any way before you died 😉 (ok shutting up now because not relevant)

Do my reads lists mean nothing now smh

Time to use giant purple text again, I guess.

 

[Coopah]

Also no guarantee that Ms P is village, your way isn't the only correct option is my point

 

[Animal Midwife]

... What makes you think the partner is valuable?

Double vote.

 

[Coopah]

Double vote.

Ah I thought you were talking about jboo

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also no guarantee that Ms P is village, your way isn't the only correct option is my point

And if MsP isn't village, then why is her partner hardbussing another partner locking, at the barest of minimums, w/w wagons?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ah I thought you were talking about jboo

Nah, don't know what she is, and she's only got one vote as opposed to BC being a serious contender.

 

[dolphin106258]

What's your read on BC?

I had her neutral for awhile Bc I agreed with some of her comments on people, but I couldn’t decide if she was village why wolves would leave a double voter alive this long. So I’d be okay voting her today, I just think MsP is more of my top Wolfy candidate at the moment, whether anyone agrees or not is not my problem.

Interesting, why do you think I am voting for Kitties? Because this sounds like a defense

I can leave whenever I like Pippy thank you very much. Also it isn’t a defense...it’s a question. Am I not allowed to ask or is that specifically reserved for AM?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I had her neutral for awhile Bc I agreed with some of her comments on people, but I couldn’t decide if she was village why wolves would leave a double voter alive this long. So I’d be okay voting her today, I just think MsP is more of my top Wolfy candidate at the moment, whether anyone agrees or not is not my problem.

Was just curious since you seem interested in the votes on her. How do you feel about those voting her?

 

[WildZoo]

I was walking out of school and had a thought that maybe I should be more concerned about pip than I have been. Perhaps been ruminating in my brain since she posted her reads and reasons, but it occured to me that she hasn't really been pushing her wolf reads in the way I would expect from village pip. Brings them up, makes a couple posts at them, and then just kind of makes general commentary at everybody without really putting effort into flipping those wolf reads. It's this weird backseat way of direction suspicions that she tends to take on as a wolf, rather than the more direct way that she leads things as a villager. I usually give her village points for getting on my case (she knows this so it becomes increasingly useless) but this game it doesn't feel like she's really invested in getting me (or coop, or any of the people she has briefly pushed) actually lynched.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I was walking out of school and had a thought that maybe I should be more concerned about pip than I have been. Perhaps been ruminating in my brain since she posted her reads and reasons, but it occured to me that she hasn't really been pushing her wolf reads in the way I would expect from village pip. Brings them up, makes a couple posts at them, and then just kind of makes general commentary at everybody without really putting effort into flipping those wolf reads. It's this weird backseat way of direction suspicions that she tends to take on as a wolf, rather than the more direct way that she leads things as a villager. I usually give her village points for getting on my case (she knows this so it becomes increasingly useless) but this game it doesn't feel like she's really invested in getting me (or coop, or any of the people she has briefly pushed) actually lynched.

And this makes me feel better about you. GAH.

When I wolfed with her in that one game that’s what happened. Shed often bring up other wolves as sketchy and then never push them. She’s brought me up for days as about her top wolf read and hasn’t voted there yet (I feel dumb for bringing this up since I feel like it’s essentially asking for a lynch vote).

 

[kaydubs]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (4) - SAR, dolph, alissa, Barks
BC (3) - jmoose, Pippy, Coops
miz (1) - Dubz
Barks (1) - genny
jmoose (2) - BC

10/14 voting
@Ms Procrastinator - you lead.
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[BigCats]

Ok I'm bored again. Yo BC is your defense just going to go after all the people on your lynch as wolfy?

On another note, besides jboo do you have anyone else as top wolf suspect and why? Can you put together potential packs. If jboo flips village what does that do to the rest of your reads?

I can see a dolphin/genny/jboo pack, +/- either WZ or Coop. There’s a weird vibe this game and the main three are all skirting under the radar, notably with both dolphin and genny posting just enough of their “village meta” early enough in the game to assuage suspicions from last game and then diving back down to wolfy levels. If jboo flips village, I would lean WZ more likely wolf than Coop.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I can see a dolphin/genny/jboo pack, +/- either WZ or Coop. There’s a weird vibe this game and the main three are all skirting under the radar, notably with both dolphin and genny posting just enough of their “village meta” early enough in the game to assuage suspicions from last game and then diving back down to wolfy levels. If jboo flips village, I would lean WZ more likely wolf than Coop.

If this is the case, you really have to address your crowd because you only have one wolf on you then.

 

[WildZoo]

I am an equal opportunity sniffer

Just keep giving yourself wolf points lol remember how you said it was wolfy that I was "PR hunting"?

 

[Coopah]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (4) - SAR, dolph, alissa, Barks
BC (3) - jmoose, Pippy, Coops
miz (1) - Dubz
Barks (1) - genny
jmoose (2) - BC

10/14 voting
@Ms Procrastinator - you lead.
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

Considering I'm wolf reading the two people on the BC lunch and jboo just became viable...
Unlynch BC lynch jboo

I really don't like that my wolf reads are all voting for each other

 

[BigCats]

If this is the case, you really have to address your crowd because you only have one wolf on you then.

I would be surprised if I had more than one wolf on me right now with only three people voting for me. It’s more likely that they’re off sitting on a worthless vote so they can stay off a villager lynch.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I would be surprised if I had more than one wolf on me right now with only three people voting for me. It’s more likely that they’re off sitting on a worthless vote so they can stay off a villager lynch.

My point is more that it means multiple villagers are genuinely finding you sketchy rather than wolves having to push it.

 

[PippyPony]

it occured to me that she hasn't really been pushing her wolf reads in the way I would expect from village pip. Brings them up, makes a couple posts at them, and then just kind of makes general commentary at everybody without really putting effort into flipping those wolf reads.
but this game it doesn't feel like she's really invested in getting me (or coop, or any of the people she has briefly pushed) actually lynched.

She’s brought me up for days as about her top wolf read and hasn’t voted there yet (I feel dumb for bringing this up since I feel like it’s essentially asking for a lynch vote).

Are you people on crack?

Welp I wanted to lynch Coop today but not when she can't respond

Lynch miz

Unlynch Miz
Lynch Dubz

Feels like a slip up that now she's trying to walk back

Don't you mean "but what if wolf?"

Then I think we still net a wolf today, and if Alissa turned out to be the more important wolf, it probably means we should lynch BigKitties

If he does flip village then I think I want to lynch Miz. But I don't think he will.

And I am currently lynching a wolf read:

Lynch BigKitties

Can't sheep that, so let's see what happens

So I don't know how that is "not going after my wolf reads," because I have voted for all of them except genny, and she got dropped down into wolf territory yesterday.

Also, reads can and should change. I was planning to vote for Coop the other day, but wanted to give her a chance to talk after being silenced, and then her anger over being silenced felt village to me, so I didn't lynch her.

And I'm happy to provide reasoning at any time if you think it is insubstantial or confusing. So before trying to use a boogeyman tag team act on me, I suggest you check your facts first.

 

[BigCats]

My point is more that it means villagers are genuinely finding you sketchy rather than wolves having to push it.

Unsurprising. I've been the prime D1 lynch target for the past three games in a row and been a villager every single time, which means people are genuinely finding me sketchy every single time I'm a villager. Tbh I'm surprised I haven't been lynched sooner this game.

 

[dolphin106258]

@alissa14 what is your read on dolphin as of now?

Wolf leaning but I have other people more wolfy. Miz and MsP

Okay so we’re talking about me here yes?

Why is she wolf-leaning if she's been pushing MsP since the beginning of this game?

The whole interaction with Nav seemed off to me. I have a hard time trusting either of them though tbh

Then the answer is this which is not talking about me (I think) but AM was asking about me...so I am confused.

What seemed off about Miz in particular? could you quote and explain for me?

Then coop seems to think it’s about Miz so I am much confusion I’ve reread this interaction like three times. Also @Animal Midwife did you notice she seemingly doesn’t answer your question???

 

[WildZoo]

Are you people on crack?






And I am currently lynching a wolf read:

So I don't know how that is "not going after my wolf reads," because I have voted for all of them except genny, and she got dropped down into wolf territory yesterday.

Also, reads can and should change. I was planning to vote for Coop the other day, but wanted to give her a chance to talk after being silenced, and then her anger over being silenced felt village to me, so I didn't lynch her.

And I'm happy to provide reasoning at any time if you think it is insubstantial or confusing. So before trying to use a boogeyman tag team act on me, I suggest you check your facts first.

I wasn't really talking about not voting for your reads, tbh. That would be too obvious. I was talking about not seeming to care if anyone votes with you/not really pushing for those votes. You're not really fighting for any of these lynches, which seems odd for you.

 

[PippyPony]

Nice redirect there though, Dubz. Send people down the lynch pip path, the best distraction of all

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unsurprising. I've been the prime D1 lynch target for the past three games in a row and been a villager every single time, which means people are genuinely finding me sketchy every single time I'm a villager. Tbh I'm surprised I haven't been lynched sooner this game.

...you've only been lynched once though

Also @Animal Midwife did you notice she seemingly doesn’t answer your question???

What do you mean by that?

 

[WildZoo]

Nice redirect there though, Dubz. Send people down the lynch pip path, the best distraction of all

Who do you think I'm trying to redirect away from? All my wolf reads?

 

[BigCats]

...you've only been lynched once though

Yeah, successfully. Soccer I was tied with barks and got saved by Sunbodi's tiebreaker ability, speed game I literally only survived by role revealing in the last 10 minutes, and then I was actually lynched last game. All D1. All village. It's- for better or for worse- a thing.

 

[PippyPony]

I wasn't really talking about not voting for your reads, tbh. That would be too obvious. I was talking about not seeming to care if anyone votes with you/not really pushing for those votes. You're not really fighting for any of these lynches, which seems odd for you.

I'm sitting on a lynch that I feel perfectly happy about based on how she reacted to the votes today, and there are already other people on that vote.

You, a wolf read, are voting for Miz, another wolf read. So I am not sure anymore that I want to be voting with you, so I am on one of my other wolf reads.

I'm not voting for you because that lynch is going to get no traction and result in a lot of bitching at me a la the other day, and if I'm wrong, you're one of the more vocal villagers and lynching you is bad for village. So you're right, I haven't been pushing it that hard yet because I don't feel much like putting up with you and the dubz fan club snapping at me until I go through some other wolf reads first.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yeah, successfully. Soccer I was tied with barks and got saved by Sunbodi's tiebreaker ability, speed game I literally only survived by role revealing in the last 10 minutes, and then I was actually lynched last game. All D1. All village. It's- for better or for worse- a thing.

Well, that's not really being a target so much as getting just pressured to form a better read since people, more often than not, seem to believe you and let you live.

 

[jaboo]

Who's echoing and with which reads? And does it bother you?

BC and Wondering. Could just be confirmation bias but the same names keep getting thrown around that we’re discussed very recently. Not a lot of original thoughts coming about.

 

[PippyPony]

Who do you think I'm trying to redirect away from? All my wolf reads?

Who are those again? Miz? BC? Jboo?

You dropped BC after some weak sauce suspicions on D1 and you're not lynching her today... you haven't voted for jboo... and your Miz vote seemed to materialize out of the ether this morning, but sure, I'm the one who is not pushing.

 

[Animal Midwife]

BC and Wondering. Could just be confirmation bias but the same names keep getting thrown around that we’re discussed very recently. Not a lot of original thoughts coming about.

Which reads were those? Do you disagree with them? How does that make you feel about Wondering?

 

[cubsrule4e]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (4) - SAR, dolph, alissa, Barks
BC (2) - jmoose, Pippy
miz (1) - Dubz
Barks (1) - genny
jmoose (3) - BC, Coop

10/14 voting
@Ms Procrastinator - you lead.
Missing: all the rest of y'all

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST


Glad I only operate one day a week... ****s nerve-wracking! ...and it gets in the way of tallies!!

 

[jaboo]

I can see a dolphin/genny/jboo pack, +/- either WZ or Coop.

I agree with... like none of this. Genny I’m always bad at reading, but dolphin has been striking me as having a different tone than last game (interacting more and contributing), while Dubz and Coop have been pretty actively pushing lynches.

 

[PippyPony]

Wait where is AM's vote?

@Animal Midwife are you not voting?

 

[WildZoo]

Who are those again? Miz? BC? Jboo?

You dropped BC after some weak sauce suspicions on D1 and you're not lynching her today... you haven't voted for jboo... and your Miz vote seemed to materialize out of the ether this morning, but sure, I'm the one who is not pushing.

Well this was yesterday...and I was voting for jboo all day until it looked like the nav lynch might not go through

Reeread quickly to try to give some structure to my POE and, without considering pack alignments, I'm at

Wolves for sure among:
nav
miz
jmoose
barks

And perhaps among:
BC
alissa
MsP

No I haven't had the chance to do much pushing today because I haven't been here, but you can't just ignore that everyone on the lynch docket today was in my POE yesterday

 

[Animal Midwife]

Wait where is AM's vote?

@Animal Midwife are you not voting?

In my back pocket still. It's turned into the waiting game with MsP.

 

[Coopah]

****, I'm really torn between BC and jboo. I need to do some research but also I need to do a butt load of school work...

 

[BigCats]

Well, that's not really being a target so much as getting just pressured to form a better read since people, more often than not, seem to believe you and let you live.

I mean, sure, I've survived getting lynched before, but only through mechanics- Sunbodi thought it was bs that I was getting lynched from old joke votes and saved me to flip a wolf, which was a pretty solid clear, and in the speed game people only started backing off once I was basically hitting a pan with a stick screaming "I'M A PR DON'T LYNCH ME"- again, mechanics. I wouldn't argue that I need to work on becoming a better villager so that people aren't constantly misreading me, since clearly it's a "me" thing if it's a pattern like this, but past history shows I am a very easy mislynch candidate. Easy to keep me around when I'm using my double vote to help kill villagers while also drawing attention off actual wolves with my general sketchiness, and very easy to get rid of me when I start sniffing in the right direction.

 

[WildZoo]

****, I'm really torn between BC and jboo. I need to do some research but also I need to do a butt load of school work...

I'd go jboo over BC I think. On a macro level there's more wolfhunting effort from BC than the hydra. I haven't read BC's posts from today yet though.