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[WildZoo]

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Zenge (that’s me)

Oh is that who you are?? I was convinced you were lawpy...

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray (1) - April
Zenge (1) - alley
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (1) - Cray
alley (1) - Mel
Pippy (1) - sunshine

9/13
yeet close in ~2.5 hours

 

[PippyPony]

How are you feeling about Mel?

I said earlier today. I am feeling slightly better about him for reasons I cannot explain.

I do still think he would be a valuable yeet candidate information-wise, at least for me. Most particularly because I absolutely cannot put Sunshine & Mel in the same pack based off of their interactions earlier. Not least because I think Mel would have driven the bus right over her (and vice versa) by this point if that was actual salt vs fake salt.

 

[sunshinefl]

Where did I ever say that? I did that exact calculation on an earlier page.

But your use of that statistic didn't really match the context for your other statement, in my opinion. It kinda looks to me like you went back later to find an explanation because someone noticed it was sketchy and you can't edit it.

Yeah no. I felt like it didn’t need any explanation in the first post because duh! That info is right in post #1. But then low and behold the 2 players I have voted for this cycle decided they had a “gotcha moment”.

You definitely have done something similar as a wolf in the past and you got equally angry at me for pointing out "right wolf wrong (?) reason"... although I maintain that time it was not a wrong reason.

I don’t even know what this references. And I’m not angry right now. I’m just seeing the manufactured sus from you.

I dunno Sunny. Overall you just seem to be giving explanations for your logic in this game that I am really not following. Last time -- when you were a villager -- I saw a lot more driving energy from you and I agreed with a lot of your posts. This game you seem to be expending way more energy acting rankled about people nitpicking your words instead of spending that energy looking for wolves.

Well from my end, I’m actually out more effort into this game than the last one. Maybe because the village was more solid last time. Or maybe because I died night 1

I interpreted your post as claiming that it was TMI for sunny to say there were 80% villagers, implying you had forgotten there was an open setup

As did I. And still do.

 

[PippyPony]

Oh is that who you are?? I was convinced you were lawpy...

Lottttta jokes and "hey fellow villagers wolf focus group, what do you think about this pack?" posts coming from your direction today

 

[PippyPony]

Yeah no. I felt like it didn’t need any explanation in the first post because duh! That info is right in post #1.

As did I. And still do.

Ok well... that is just wrong

 

[Aprilthearab]

Nope, not what I was saying at all, and also not how I interpreted the post she made.

It sounded like she said 2/3 of the people voting for the leading wagons were villagers. And I don't know how she would know that particular statistic.

I mean maybe I'm a dummy but it seems strange to me to extrapolate a game-wide breakdown -- and not even the right one (2/3 ≠ 80%, last time I checked) to a specific voting set. How does she know all 3 wolves weren't on the genny vote, for example? Idk it just struck me as kinda weird.

Although to be transparent, Sporty "hmmm" reacting my popcorn emoji also felt weird to me, so. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

Yeah, that's the impression I got initially too and I was also confused but with explanation it makes more sense

 

[sunshinefl]

I don’t have a read on mkg but given that 80% of the roster was village for yeet 1, I could buy that she really was completely uninformed at all and didn’t want to risk voting a villager. Not because of how a vote on the villager would be perceived, but because she could contribute to/cause the loss of a villager blindly.

...what

How is that confusing? It’s an open setup game. All 15 players were still alive before yeet 1. 12 out of 15 are village. 12/15= 0.8=80% village

Wth would you need popcorn for that? Seems weird you’re trying to make it into something more than it is.

Yeah but it’s not just when he knows stuff others don’t. He himself thinks in elaborate ways that aren’t always helpful because no one else is doing that so what he thinks other people are doing isn’t accurate.

I too like to use math to try to cover up sketchy statements I can't edit. Looks professional!

Guys this is literal open set up. There are no 3P.

which reminds me, further strengthening my Pippy sus..... she has used this game setup argument any time someone gets a whiff that she could maybe might be 3P, but “suddenly” she doesn’t know how a villager could know there were 80% villagers at the start of the game.

Where did I ever say that? I did that exact calculation on an earlier page.

But your use of that statistic didn't really match the context for your other statement, in my opinion. It kinda looks to me like you went back later to find an explanation because someone noticed it was sketchy and you can't edit it.

You definitely have done something similar as a wolf in the past and you got equally angry at me for pointing out "right wolf wrong (?) reason"... although I maintain that time it was not a wrong reason.

I dunno Sunny. Overall you just seem to be giving explanations for your logic in this game that I am really not following. Last time -- when you were a villager -- I saw a lot more driving energy from you and I agreed with a lot of your posts. This game you seem to be expending way more energy acting rankled about people nitpicking your words instead of spending that energy looking for wolves.

Nope, not what I was saying at all, and also not how I interpreted the post she made.

It sounded like she said 2/3 of the people voting for the leading wagons were villagers. And I don't know how she would know that particular statistic.

I mean maybe I'm a dummy but it seems strange to me to extrapolate a game-wide breakdown -- and not even the right one (2/3 ≠ 80%, last time I checked) to a specific voting set. How does she know all 3 wolves weren't on the genny vote, for example? Idk it just struck me as kinda weird.

Although to be transparent, Sporty "hmmm" reacting my popcorn emoji also felt weird to me, so. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

I never said anything you’re saying I did. And yeah 2/3 doesn’t equal 80. But now you’re erecting straw men saying I was referencing “leading wagons” and then later in the same post saying I was referencing people voting Genny, pick a lie pip. I was referring to the entire roster. And btw while making a comment about a third party to a different third party. None of this was the crux of any decision making.

 

[sunshinefl]

Yeah, that's the impression I got initially too and I was also confused but with explanation it makes more sense

Who’s impression and explanation are you referring to here?

 

[alleycat03]

I never said anything you’re saying I did. And yeah 2/3 doesn’t equal 80. But now you’re erecting straw men saying I was referencing “leading wagons” and then later in the same post saying I was referencing people voting Genny, pick a lie pip. I was referring to the entire roster. And btw while making a comment about a third party to a different third party. None of this was the crux of any decision making.

Thank you for pulling all of the relevant quotes and putting them into one post. I was also confused and I interpreted it in a similar way to how Pippy did. I think I understand what you’re saying now, but I was confused for a bit there

 

[sunshinefl]

For anyone who isn’t trying to twist everything I do to manufacture a case against me, please explain in what world “80% of the roster” could be interpreted as “80% the leading wagons” or “80% of the votes on genny’s wagon”

 

[Zenge142]

How do you feel about his D2 posts? Not asking for a full iso unless you want to, just point me to posts you’ve already talked about them if you have

Not any better. There’s been nothing today that makes me want to give Bread village cred. He’s walked back his read of me in a wishy-washy kind of way, mostly for defending sunny, but then is also suspicious of sunny.

Not sure how I feel about targeting Dubz because I am not sure when she is driving back home but will definitely start looking into her after looking at Sunshine and Mel. So far Mel has not really pinged me though but rereads always help.

Although this does make me feel a little better about Zenge because when we wolfed together last game he did point out that Sunny can be an easy misyeet. At the moment I think I might interpret this as more village unless he is a wolf trying to save Sunny for a future misyeet(I feel like this may be more suspicious if he does this though because that would be back tracking)

Like does some of it kind of track, logically? Sure. But overall, like these are kind of the most comprehensive reads we’ve gotten. Kind of sort of back tracking on me. And looking kind of sort of looking into Sunny and Mel, but not really committed to Mel as a potential candidate. And will maybe look at Dubz later.

I don’t see how this could be called wolf hunting, and with the inconsistencies of D1 that pinged me, D2 hasn’t changed anything.

 

[WildZoo]

Lottttta jokes and "hey fellow villagers wolf focus group, what do you think about this pack?" posts coming from your direction today

No fun police up in here

I have posted far more content than my single post asking what people thought about a sunny/bread pack.

 

[Viscernable]

Nope, not what I was saying at all, and also not how I interpreted the post she made.

It sounded like she said 2/3 of the people voting for the leading wagons were villagers. And I don't know how she would know that particular statistic.

I mean maybe I'm a dummy but it seems strange to me to extrapolate a game-wide breakdown -- and not even the right one (2/3 ≠ 80%, last time I checked) to a specific voting set. How does she know all 3 wolves weren't on the genny vote, for example? Idk it just struck me as kinda weird.

Although to be transparent, Sporty "hmmm" reacting my popcorn emoji also felt weird to me, so. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

Not gonna lie I have no idea where you got 2/3 from nor how you interpreted her post as saying anything about the wagon composition

 

[alleycat03]

For anyone who isn’t trying to twist everything I do to manufacture a case against me, please explain in what world “80% of the roster” could be interpreted as “80% the leading wagons” or “80% of the votes on genny’s wagon”

“given that 80% of the roster was village for yeet 1”
I’m pretty sure I skipped some words when I was reading over this sentence. Because I thought it said something along the lines of 80% of the people going to get a yeet and not 80% of the people like overall in the game on day one overall are village

 

[PippyPony]

I never said anything you’re saying I did. And yeah 2/3 doesn’t equal 80. But now you’re erecting straw men saying I was referencing “leading wagons” and then later in the same post saying I was referencing people voting Genny, pick a lie pip. I was referring to the entire roster. And btw while making a comment about a third party to a different third party. None of this was the crux of any decision making.

How can I possibly know what is inside your head? I might have read it wrong, but that's how I read it. It's NOT a lie for me to say "this is how I interpreted your post." It's my own opinion.

I don't know what else you want me to say.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Who’s impression and explanation are you referring to here?

The first time I read your 80% thing, I thought you meant like 80% of the people on the leading vote were village with the way you said "was village for yeet 1." That did not make sense though so I kept reading and now it does make sense and I understand what you meant

 

[The_Breadmann]

I think that I am going to go with

###Vote Mel###

to shake it up a bit. Not really feeling wolfy vibes from Alley. Still looking at Zenge a little but I feel a little bit better about him and also feel like he would jump to the fact that my vote could be seen as more of a retaliatory vote.

 

[PippyPony]

Not gonna lie I have no idea where you got 2/3 from nor how you interpreted her post as saying anything about the wagon composition

Honestly I don't even know where I got that number, because I thought that's what she said but people can't edit posts, so I guess I misread it.

I was in the clinic for 10 hours today trying to answer rapid fire on-the-spot questions about experimental chemo protocols 🤷🏼‍♀️

 

[sunshinefl]

“given that 80% of the roster was village for yeet 1”
I’m pretty sure I skipped some words when I was reading over this sentence. Because I thought it said something along the lines of 80% of the people going to get a yeet and not 80% of the people like overall in the game on day one overall are village

The context was mkg saying she literally knew nothing and was worried about RNG and hitting a villager by voting blindly on the *entire eligible voting pool* which includes the entire roster. And why I said “for yeet 1”? Because there were 2 deaths since that time, and that was the situation that was being discussed.

 

[The_Breadmann]

Otherwise Cray does seem a little more off this game than other games I have seen her in (I am well aware that I have never seen her wolf) I still have a bit of a base line from seeing some of her play though. But piece out, I might be back later but my die has been cast.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think that I am going to go with

###Vote Mel###

to shake it up a bit. Not really feeling wolfy vibes from Alley. Still looking at Zenge a little but I feel a little bit better about him and also feel like he would jump to the fact that my vote could be seen as more of a retaliatory vote.

Do you think Mel is wolfy or are you just seeing what happens if you put a vote there?

 

[Viscernable]

Vote mkg

I’m stuck on how her posts sound like struggling-to-catch-up wolf

 

[PippyPony]

No fun police up in here

I have posted far more content than my single post asking what people thought about a sunny/bread pack.

I'm less concerned by the joking, more concerned by the "hey y'all who should we vote next" approach.

Feels touchy feely like friendly neighborhood wolf Dubz.

 

[sunshinefl]

Not gonna lie I have no idea where you got 2/3 from nor how you interpreted her post as saying anything about the wagon composition

Exactly.

I think that I am going to go with

###Vote Mel###

to shake it up a bit. Not really feeling wolfy vibes from Alley. Still looking at Zenge a little but I feel a little bit better about him and also feel like he would jump to the fact that my vote could be seen as more of a retaliatory vote.

Bread you’re mystery behind the scenes searches and decision making process aren’t really helping. You just kinda name random people in your posts and never really follow up with substance.

Honestly I don't even know where I got that number, because I thought that's what she said but people can't edit posts, so I guess I misread it.

I was in the clinic for 10 hours today trying to answer rapid fire on-the-spot questions about experimental chemo protocols 🤷🏼‍♀️

Well wasn’t it you who didn’t want to give people a pass for routine IRL stuff like driving and work?

 

[PippyPony]

Also @WildZoo I hate your April read & I'm mildly worried that Zenge may be trying to pocket you by mimicking your reads list.

 

[alleycat03]

Well I really don’t think that bread and Z are w/w

I also really don’t think that sunny and Pippy are w/w

All of these back-and-forth interactions seem genuine to me and I wanted to make note of it

 

[Viscernable]

Well wasn’t it you who didn’t want to give people a pass for routine IRL stuff like driving and work?

She said she doesn’t want it used as a reason on its own not to vote for someone, not that it can never explain why someone misread something

 

[Aprilthearab]

Also @WildZoo I hate your April read & I'm mildly worried that Zenge may be trying to pocket you by mimicking your reads list.

Curious about this because you were just thinking Dubz might be woof?

 

[PippyPony]

Well wasn’t it you who didn’t want to give people a pass for routine IRL stuff like driving and work?

For VOTING THEM.

Someone saying "I will be MIA for the next 11 hours" is not a free pass/is not a reason why they should not get attention.

I'm not even asking for anyone to cut me a break -- I'm just explaining why I might be spitting out imaginary numbers right now. Maybe you've forgotten, but me dying right about now-ish is a win for me in terms of school.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Bread (1) - Zenge
Cray ()
Zenge (1) - alley
sunshine (2) - Pippy, Sporty
April (1) - DubZ
Sporty (1) - Cray
alley (1) - Mel
Pippy (1) - sunshine
mkg (2) - April, Visc
Mel (1) - Bread

11/13
yeet close in ~1.75 hours

 

[PippyPony]

Curious about this because you were just thinking Dubz might be woof?

I have her smack dab in the middle of neutral right now and I don't want to bite the dust before I got that icky feeling on record.

 

[PippyPony]

I do think that Dubz would be a useful info candidate, in part because it would personally help me figure out where to put Zenge. Which is the same thing I said like 30 hours ago.

Sunshine/Dubz/Mel --> useful info triad, there is a wolf in there somewhere.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I have her smack dab in the middle of neutral right now and I don't want to bite the dust before I got that icky feeling on record.

Honestly I'd be more concerned about Dubz being wolf than Zenge if we were thinking w/v with them. I feel like I can't get a good read of Dubz until it comes down to panic time towards the later half of a game.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm less concerned by the joking, more concerned by the "hey y'all who should we vote next" approach.

Feels touchy feely like friendly neighborhood wolf Dubz.

Where did I even say that? I can't remember the last time I didn't ask for other people's opinions when I'm forming reads and packs. What's the point in having village reads if I can't ask for their opinions on stuff?

 

[alleycat03]

Unyeet zenge
Yeet mkg

So I really hate just how spread out we all are on the board. Right now the leading wagons are tied with two votes each and most people are voting. I don’t think anybody is going to join me on Z, so I am comfortable voting for MKG as I also have her in my POE. And if she is genuinely too busy to contribute then we might as well mercy yeet her? I haven’t counted her posts recently but if she is close to getting mod killed then I am willing to switch my vote again

 

[PippyPony]

I also feel like either mkg or sunshine is wolf because votes are moving like molasses today & there is a very wide split right now.

 

[sunshinefl]

How is WZ reading April?

 

[PippyPony]

Where did I even say that? I can't remember the last time I didn't ask for other people's opinions when I'm forming reads and packs. What's the point in having village reads if I can't ask for their opinions on stuff?

You didn't say that. It's just a feeling I got from your posts today.

 

[PippyPony]

How is WZ reading April?

You wanna like, ask WZ this or look at her posts maybe?

 

[WildZoo]

How is WZ reading April?

Well I'm voting for her so

 

[sunshinefl]

I also feel like either mkg or sunshine is wolf because votes are moving like molasses today & there is a very wide split right now.

Not sure the correlation between mkg and I, and between the slow votes and either of us. In fact, wouldn’t it be more likely the pack would control the board since everyone is so spread out but we’re the leading wagons?

 

[alleycat03]

Vote mkg

I’m stuck on how her posts sound like struggling-to-catch-up wolf

I think vis described well in this post how I’m feeling about MKG as well

 

[Aprilthearab]

How is WZ reading April?

Wolfy

 

[sunshinefl]

Well I'm voting for her so

Well in that case, I agree with your read. 🙂

 

[sunshinefl]

You wanna like, ask WZ this or look at her posts maybe?

She like, answered me.

 

[PippyPony]

Not sure the correlation between mkg and I, and between the slow votes and either of us. In fact, wouldn’t it be more likely the pack would control the board since everyone is so spread out but we’re the leading wagons?

Not if both of you are wolves, no.

Wolves don't have high numbers in the first place in this game so I don't know why you keep bringing up the idea that 3 people can control this situation. They can't all vote together every time -- that's wolf suicide.

 

[sunshinefl]

Updated reads. And I actually took the time to put them into order in my note app, which is annoying on the phone.


5. @sunshinefl village!

8. @Viscernable village?

makes sense, analyzing

6. @Crayola227 village?

Seems okay, usual self

13. @holdthemayo okay?

Good explanation and sincere frustration for tone change, when here seems to have good insights

10. @alleycat03 mixed to okay

Weird post trying to say Zenge was “more village” on some of his posts today, when he had only made 1 at that point (but Visc posted quotes where now she is voting for him? Which is odd)—since kind of explained, POE okay, making more sense now

9. @mkg323 ????

Plausible explanations for things but still don’t know what to make of her yet

2. @Zenge142 mixed to concerned

Pocketing me with the village read? Agree with some of his reads, didn’t really follow the fight with Mayo?, 3rd person got me, reads improved today, was 3rd in danger (other 2 flipped village already), lurking but that’s typical

3. @Melchizedek mixed to concerned

Sarcastic troll-makes himself unreadable by doing all these individual little tests like he’s a philosopher-ruler, good reason for switching off bob, now kinda not doing anything, can see him compatible with lots of people

15. @The_Breadmann absent / weak/ sus

mystery behind the scenes searches and decision making process aren’t really helping. You just kinda name random people in your posts and never really follow up with substance.

7. @WildZoo sus

weird comment and emoji, trying to shade Genny voters when she led the wagon, soft defense of cray,

11. @Aprilthearab sus

Bread “jokes”, trying to shade me, really bad reads list, clearing sporty based on ??reasons??, tunneling me

14. @SportPonies sus

Absent, comes on just to vote me based on nothing and dips while being the only vote on me, typical for wolf sporty

4. @PippyPony sus

Wants to die, claims April isn’t a wolf, making more sense (2nd calendar day) but now manufacturing sus (3rd calendar day), and now completely twisting things (4th calendar day)

 

[PippyPony]

Gonna backfire on you when you have me in the bottom of your wolf reads and I die & flip village, Sunshine.

Don't say you weren't warned.

 

[sunshinefl]

Not if both of you are wolves, no.

Wolves don't have high numbers in the first place in this game so I don't know why you keep bringing up the idea that 3 people can control this situation. They can't all vote together every time -- that's wolf suicide.

3 people could control the board when the highest votes are 2 on us.

and I disagree it would be wolf suicide, because villagers are often wrong and can vote for a villager, even with unknown wolves on that villager. So it’s not like if 3 people are on a villager yeet, we just waste the next 3 days yeet them one by one.