I've already apologized, both in thread and privately, I'm not sure what else I can do other than reiterate it wasn't my intention?
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read in a WW game
I remember multiple things from him.
Well why didn't you submit the latter?
Now I keep reading Pop Tarts as Poop Tart. Jay has poisoned my brain.
I mean in the last day ish
Yeah that's what I'm referring to. He just hasn't checked in since midnight.
Think whatever you want, if you didn't keep up that's on you. Do I get that it's hard in a game this long? Yes. Was Dubz status brought up numerous times by multiple people? Yes. ls it possible that you pretended to "miss" that information and then waste a vig shot or pretend to take a vig shot on someone where we have no way to confirm? Yes. Does it seem like it would be a dumb scum move too, probably. But I've seen plenty of people make claims that can't be confirmed to try and maintain a role for cred and I'd be stupid not to at least consider this.
A little. This actually does feel like frustrated town trying to vent/explain. However, to the bolded: we have not been "yeeting villagers left and right". We've had literally one misyeet on Veggie. Yes, we were wrong about mkg, but that was a night kill. Clearly this is an atypical game and people need to chill that we're somehow already screwed on D3.
It gives us the info that she couldn't be NK'd that night, but what does it really tell us? Is she almost certainly a sandbag? Yes. I believe this. Is it still possible that she's some kind of sandbag cult leader that has to be yeeted? Sure. Is it possible that she's some kind of alpha wolf? I guess. Are these avenues worth pursuing? Imo absolutely not, and imo trying to NK her was unnecessary too given we've already had people (I believe at least 2) confirm that she couldn't be acted on at night. It feels like another wasted vig shot when we have at least 3-5 other people where we could have gotten more info where it would have been better placed.
You didn't kill Dubz. She is still here. You're telling me I shouldn't consider a very real possibility that you're fake claiming JOAT? If anyone is seriously just taking your word for it without question then imo that's just bad play. Again, sorry not sorry.
Lol, you should go back and read some past games on here (mine are a good example) of how little "shame" wolves can have. Is it more than likely that you screwed up as a villager? Probably. Is there a real possibility that there is another explanation? Yes. Have you all seriously never played in a game where villagers push like this for information? If not, then I'm honestly shocked if that's the case for someone unless they're a noob....
What red herrings am I chasing and how is this different from what you were doing earlier. You were the one who brought up having to reassess game state earlier. I have been transparent with my reads, been voting where I'm reading scum, and pushing people I read as scum or leaning sus to try and clarify my reads when others have not. Dy and Boq for some reason think I'm tunneling them despite the fact that I'm still leaning Boq most likely village and have only said earlier that Dy was sus and have actually agreed with them multiple times and that I've never voted for them. I honestly don't understand where their level of defensiveness is coming from after getting pushed (I get it a bit with Boq, absolutely don't understand with Dy).
Because Boq made a major mistake as towncore if he is towncore which made me question his previous claims. Why are you comparing this to Marmot and how is Marmot relevant to this conversation? Marmot has been and still is in my sus leans and I don't trust Marmot. I would like to see Marmot flip, but I think there are others that are higher priorities.
Santy picked up on it and has openly referenced it on thread at least twice using my name in the statements and one part of my role/ability was straight up outed. Santy, Chic, and Samac all know.
You're giving marmot none of your attention. More than ten posts have been dedicated to one action of Boq and zero questioning, votes, or any sort of pressure has been applied to marmot. They're voting dubz for the second time. You think shooting dubz once is worse than deliberately voting her twice?
Quote those for me.
I'm aware. Are you suggesting we should all be voting for Marmot today?
No, since we've got a Clem/genny issue currently. But I think they should be in the spotlight because I can't think of a village reason for this progression.
You were lie detected?
Okay. @Stagg737 why did your item have such a low success rate? And why'd you send it to JJJ?
Jesus AM, I made the lie detector.
If Stagg's role has the same mechanics mine does, our item success rates are some level of RNG.
I'm assuming that all tinkerers items have a decreased success rate d/t multiple tinkerer roles. I thought that items having a lower success rate meant that there was a chance they just wouldn't work. Not something like "there's a 75% chance that this person was telling the truth". I gave it to JJJ because N0 I made a phone out of tin cans and string and had a PM with Samac. Samac was planning to open a PM with JJJ the night Santy acted on her, so I gave it to JJJ so Samac could tell him where the item came from and we could expand townblocc.
This matches up with my PM explanation.
Usually the success rate is based on whether the item gets made or not. It's probably better to refrain from making any seering items if it's just going to break.
And no, I'm not going to pull the other quotes because a full reveal could be significantly detrimental to town if scum knows (which given the reading comprehension and how much people are skippping, I hope they missed it). If you want to dig for it you can, but I'm not volunteering that info. I've already made allusions to it enough.
I mean, you already claimed so I don't need those anecdotes anymore. I don't understand anything in this post.
Consider that when you carry on multi-paragraph debates all day long (sometimes for multiple days), you don't give the impression that you "still lean most likely village" for people. I understand that may not be your intention, but appearances matter. Sometimes it's ideal to just let the conversation rest until it becomes truly pertinent once you have said your piece.
Keep hammering in an already hammered in nail, beat on a dead horse, etc. if that makes you feel better. You think my play was bad. Duly noted. I am noting that you are still ignoring the given reasons I have posted to why I shot Dubz. The reason why I am calling your outrage fake is because you literally quoted those reasons and asked "why did Boq target Dubz?"
AM's post is consistent with what I've always seen as 3P. In Gladiator I was 3P who ruined it for village at endgame so everyone but village won.
This is also not necessary to post
Pics or it didn't happen
In progress.
@supershorty and @Zenge142 , sounds like it was a legit mistake. Just quoting this so it's not missed.
I acted on you last night to make you "bouncier' to try and redirect attacks off of you. When I told Chic that I was "75%" sure that what she thought happened to the item wasn't what she thought, I was referencing that I think she tried to send it to you and it was bounced off of you and redirected to Clem, where actions on you were supposed to be redirected to.
I see.
As I said before, the back and forth with AM is something that often happens with us, because historically it's been part of how I read her. I'm sure it seems meaningless and frustrating to others, but it is actually relevant to my read on her.
My role pm is basically “you’re genny. Just do your best”
For full transparency , I think if scum wants to know they can certainly look and put the dots together.
