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[NateTheLesser]

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I mean.

2 Jesters + Cult . Is a lot that town should have to take care of *quickly*

The double jester makes it likey that town wastes two yeet, so killing power heavy town is to be expected ? Though a Serial Killer in that balanced fits super nicely

Was your SK in Numbers a traditional SK, or was it a stumping thing?

 

[Boquise]

I paraphrased and ok yep I made it all up

Vote Shelter

 

[NateTheLesser]

Vote Shelter

(I think that was just her frustrated response to feeling like samac wouldn't believe anything she said)

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

a serial killer kind of is a flavor of vigilante in that the only difference is the affiliation

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Might I suggest "anti-town" or "anti-village" as a grab-all term for the evil factions rather than "scum"? Two reasons: many communities use "scum" as synonymous with "mafia" or "wolves". Also, it's a bit of an ugly term that many people don't like having stuck on them -- some places have phased it out on that basis.

This isn't intended as judgment on anyone for using the term. I grew up on it in my first 40-some games on RYM.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I can say anti-village.

 

[samac]

Might I suggest "anti-town" or "anti-village" as a grab-all term for the evil factions rather than "scum"? Two reasons: many communities use "scum" as synonymous with "mafia" or "wolves". Also, it's a bit of an ugly term that many people don't like having stuck on them -- some places have phased it out on that basis.

This isn't intended as judgment on anyone for using the term. I grew up on it in my first 40-some games on RYM.

I like this idea.

Can I vote for something like beasties or beasts or something that doesn’t have a dash in it since I play exclusively on mobile lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

I like this idea.

Can I vote for something like beasties or beasts or something that doesn’t have a dash in it since I play exclusively on mobile lol

I'd understand it without the dash too.

 

[samac]

I'd understand it without the dash too.

For ISO purposes having sometime standard without changing punctuation I think would be helpful

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I like this idea.

Can I vote for something like beasties or beasts or something that doesn’t have a dash in it since I play exclusively on mobile lol

The OG Syndicate term was “baddies”

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

However that leads to people calling each other “bad” which is ripe for misunderstanding

 

[Santygrass]

Was your SK in Numbers a traditional SK, or was it a stumping thing?

It was kindof traditional?

Like, it was killing+stumping . A bit less powerful than a traditional one

 

[NateTheLesser]

It's a vibe/perspective read, but I just have trouble seeing sk!shelter in how she's approached the day. But it's not that hard to read Clem as being in "the game's over but nobody else knows it" mode.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Blueberry Pop Tarts are a real cereal killer

 

[Santygrass]

In my home community we just have

Villa / Town
Wolves / Mafia
Neutrals (3p with inclusive wincon)
Independent (3p with exclusive wincon)

And we usually dont address the subgroup that would be wolves/mafia+independents , but we often use something like "threats to village" as in, people we need dead to reach our wincon

 

[Zenge142]

Day 4 Tally:

Stagg ()
Clem (5) - Stagg, Santy, Dy, SAR, AM
Shelter (3) - Samac, JJJ, BOQ

Vote Close in 6.333334 Hours

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In my home community we just have

Villa / Town
Wolves / Mafia
Neutrals (3p with inclusive wincon)
Independent (3p with exclusive wincon)

And we usually dont address the subgrouo that would be wolves/mafia+independents , but we often use something like "threats to village" as in, people we need dead to reach our wincon

I figured y'all would have just called the mafia "SilverKeiths"

 

[Animal Midwife]

I figured y'all would have just called the mafia "SilverKeiths"

Love that guy. Had multiple fun games with him.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Vote Close in 6.333334 Hours

I love this. The "4" digit suggests that Zenge didn't merely truncate and round (because if we assume the next digit is 3, we wouldn't round up to 4). Instead, this level of precision is deliberate. Let's give Zenge a hand for such dedicated efforts.

Spoiler

I haven't verified that's actually a correct representation of the time remaining, but shush

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Love that guy. Had multiple fun games with him.

He's great, and he's a champs institution. I only got to play with him once, and it was marred by mechanics bs.

 

[Santygrass]

Sadly he has been more busy with life stuff, but maybe I could convince him to play a game here on SDN 🤔 .

But only if boq also plays tbh

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sadly he has been more busy with life stuff, but maybe I could convince him to play a game here on SDN 🤔 .

But only if boq also plays tbh

I suspect he would find the vibe quite agreeable, and it with him.

 

[Santygrass]

But Silver playing here would mean beng with someone who is fairly accurate when they read me. Dangerous stuff tbh

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But Silver playing here would mean beng with someone who is fairly accurate when they read me. Dangerous stuff tbh

Next time there's a hyper-spammy high posting game like this one, bring Manny too.

 

[Stagg737]

I'd love to hear @Stagg737's perspective. That IC nametag is quite valuable.

I'm not really caught up, but my views haven't really changed from my previous statement. I still think Clem needs to go. Was there a post with who killed who last night/death pools? Shelter's kills do seem fairly pro-village, but again I haven't seen a game with an every night vig. I realize AM referenced one and depending on game set up it could be an appropriate game for village to have high firepower.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm not really caught up, but my views haven't really changed from my previous statement. I still think Clem needs to go. Was there a post with who killed who last night/death pools? Shelter's kills do seem fairly pro-village, but again I haven't seen a game with an every night vig. I realize AM referenced one and depending on game set up it could be an appropriate game for village to have high firepower.

I can just share:

sheltermed killed genny (cult leader)
dyachei killed chicandtoughness (hider/tinkerer)
I killed marmot (jester)

 

[Stagg737]

I can just share:

sheltermed killed genny (cult leader)
dyachei killed chicandtoughness (hider/tinkerer)
I killed marmot (jester)

You and Dy are claiming every other night vigs right? So you both kill on odd nights?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You and Dy are claiming every other night vigs right? So you both kill on odd nights?

Yes, and shelter kills every night. dyachei's role also features protections, so there's a sort of power gradient:

JJJ < dya < shelter

 

[Stagg737]

I can just share:

sheltermed killed genny (cult leader)
dyachei killed chicandtoughness (hider/tinkerer)
I killed marmot (jester)

And Shelter kill was a good one. I haven't played a cult game, but my understanding is that wolves would typically be just as invested in killing cult, correct?

 

[samac]

And Shelter kill was a good one. I haven't played a cult game, but my understanding is that wolves would typically be just as invested in killing cult, correct?

Cult and wolves are also against each other, raving towards parity.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

And Shelter kill was a good one. I haven't played a cult game, but my understanding is that wolves would typically be just as invested in killing cult, correct?

That depends on the nature of the cult and what the wolves know about it. Some cults just can't convert wolves, so in those cases they don't worry as much. But technically it is still an opposing faction and they can't both win (at least in my experience). SDN regulars might have better insight on the norms here.

I tend to believe killing the cult does not make sheltermed town, because serial killer or other killing anti-town affiliation other than cult is still possible.

 

[Santygrass]

And Shelter kill was a good one. I haven't played a cult game, but my understanding is that wolves would typically be just as invested in killing cult, correct?

Correct . It may depend based ln gamestate, but generally I'd say just yes

 

[Stagg737]

That depends on the nature of the cult and what the wolves know about it. Some cults just can't convert wolves, so in those cases they don't worry as much. But technically it is still an opposing faction and they can't both win (at least in my experience). SDN regulars might have better insight on the norms here.

I tend to believe killing the cult does not make sheltermed town, because serial killer or other killing anti-town affiliation other than cult is still possible.

Correct . It may depend based ln gamestate, but generally I'd say just yes

So then it seems like the genny kill was a good move but NAI.

 

[Santygrass]

For AI purposes, to me the MKG (that falls in believing shelter clam to kill there which I am inclined to) and mayo one are most Alignment Inidicative.

But still that still doesnt clear them. Specially if we think that the world of "shelter is serial killer whitout actually knowing they were scum and not provilla" is possible.

 

[dyachei]

@Santygrass

i got to choose what power to use first so i used protection first and now that happens on even nights. Because i have to cycle through both powers, that makes the vig odd night

 

[NateTheLesser]

Did Clem ever say what result he got from the box?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did Clem ever say what result he got from the box?

I believe he said it did nothing. I will verify.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I opened the box. There was nothing in it. I submitted samac's name.

 

[NateTheLesser]

I remember that part. Chic said she intended it to be investigative, so I'd expect some sort of feedback after putting samac's name in.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I remember that part. Chic said she intended it to be investigative, so I'd expect some sort of feedback after putting samac's name in.

@Clem J

 

[Santygrass]

I remember that part. Chic said she intended it to be investigative, so I'd expect some sort of feedback after putting samac's name in.

Yes, chic told that Clem should receive something on samac

 

[Clem J]

@Clem J

Idk what to tell you, I submitted samac's name and opened the box, zenge told me nothing happened

 

[Clem J]

I assume it's cause she was culted at the time?

 

[Santygrass]

Yep, adds up. The name submission is investigative. I'd like to hear his response before I share more about what the intended effect is.

Here

 

[Santygrass]

Chic wasnt culted. They flipped village

 

[Santygrass]

And still I dont get why you put samac's name and not mine there. That action doesnt match with what you were saying in thread at all wowee

And it wasnt much to begin with

 

[NateTheLesser]

Here

Hmm, "investigative" but she died before she could share what the "intended effect" was. So maybe not a straightforward role/alignment peek. Not sure it matters much.

 

[samac]

Hmm, "investigative" but she died before she could share what the "intended effect" was. So maybe not a straightforward role/alignment peek. Not sure it matters much.

She liked when Clem said it did nothing and neither of them touched it again so I’m guessing that made sense to her but I didn’t ask for any clarification given I was cult at the time

 

[NateTheLesser]

She liked when Clem said it did nothing and neither of them touched it again so I’m guessing that made sense to her but I didn’t ask for any clarification given I was cult at the time

Yeah that was the part where he said he opened it, it was empty, and he put your name in. He didn't say what happened after that (if anything) until just recently. It could be that none of that matters, but it was a loose end.

 

[Stagg737]

@Santygrass

i got to choose what power to use first so i used protection first and now that happens on even nights. Because i have to cycle through both powers, that makes the vig odd night

Sorry if you posted, but who have all your protections been? I think I recall you said AM on N0?