MaWWke YoWWr OWWn WW - Game Thread

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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Literary was in March last year.

1.5 years, like March 2022? Okee dokee.

I suppose the question would be: have they played together often enough (and had enough samac-town-reads-mayo situations) consecutively since that incident for samac to develop this impression of her read on him?

There is at least a precedent for her believing this as town (not just having the read, but believing in her ability to make the read): clicky

 

[samac]

yeah please do, because based on what I remember, you don't actually have a good rate of catching him when he's scum and you vouching for him in early game is very uncomfortable to me as a result.

Pls note I also did it in Kirby
I think

 

[samac]

Those don't really count tbh, it's different when you're actually in it and playing, which is why I can't claim to have an AM reading card despite being quite good at reading her. I need to actually catch her wolfing when I'm IN it first.

Fair enough
I don’t know if we’ve played together enough to claim anything then

 

[supershorty]

Pls note I also did it in Kirby
I think

SAMAC.

I AM MAKING THE POINT THAT YOU TEND TO TOWN READ MAYO EARLY REGARDLESS.

YOU PROVIDING EXAMPLES OF YOU DOING IT WHEN HE WAS TOWN DOES NOT NEGATE MY POINT IN ANY WAY.

 

[samac]

SAMAC.

I AM MAKING THE POINT THAT YOU TEND TO TOWN READ MAYO EARLY REGARDLESS.

YOU PROVIDING EXAMPLES OF YOU DOING IT WHEN HE WAS TOWN DOES NOT NEGATE MY POINT IN ANY WAY.

OKAY FINE

 

[Boquise]

CAUSE I DONT HAVE ANY GOOD ANSWERS AND IM 5 DRINKS IN

shouldnt 5 drinks in make it easier for you to talk about tbh, or feel looser with the words, not the opposite tbh

 

[samac]

shouldnt 5 drinks in make it easier for you to talk about tbh, or feel looser with the words, not the opposite tbh

Oh I just don’t remember

 

[Boquise]

i may talk from experience tbh

 

[supershorty]

i may talk from experience tbh

Stay away from knives

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

SAMAC.

I AM MAKING THE POINT THAT YOU TEND TO TOWN READ MAYO EARLY REGARDLESS.

YOU PROVIDING EXAMPLES OF YOU DOING IT WHEN HE WAS TOWN DOES NOT NEGATE MY POINT IN ANY WAY.

What about samac doing it when samac is town? Isn't that the more important thing?

 

[supershorty]

What about samac doing it when samac is town? Isn't that the more important thing?

No. Because my point is that there is absolutely nothing stopping samac from doing this as a wolf.

I have no reason to trust her read on mayo.
I have no reason to trust that her doing this is town because I don't know that she's ever played with him when she was wolfing.

I do not like when people have a level of bravado and confidence in their read that isn't warranted. I further do not like it when that person is not particularly easy to read (for me) in early game.

 

[Boquise]

Oh I just don’t remember

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No. Because my point is that there is absolutely nothing stopping samac from doing this as a wolf.

I have no reason to trust her read on mayo.
I have no reason to trust that her doing this is town because I don't know that she's ever played with him when she was wolfing.

I do not like when people have a level of bravado and confidence in their read that isn't warranted. I further do not like it when that person is not particularly easy to read (for me) in early game.

Okay but here's the problem.

She can be wolf. Because wolves exist and they do the things they do as town sometimes. That is always true. Does this mean samac is a wolf? There is a precedent established for this very thing to exist when samac is town. Is it then at worst NAI?

I don't follow.

 

[Boquise]

Stay away from knives

im as sober as a cucumber tbh

 

[holdthemayo]

@holdthemayo youve said the developing reading card goes both ways
How you reading me

It's too early to say.

In the half of the game I've read so far? you seem fine.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You know, I don't believe there's ever been a w!samac/v!mayo game so I don't know how they'd respond in that.

 

[Stagg737]

Has he done anything in particular to set you off?

Is there a particular characteristic of my posts that reminds you of Stardeww 2?

Mostly just feels, there’s one or two things I’d rather hold onto for now. Nothing that would make me want to see a flip yet.

 

[Boquise]

i think shorty is town tbh

 

[supershorty]

Okay but here's the problem.

She can be wolf. Because wolves exist and they do the things they do as town sometimes. That is always true. Does this mean samac is a wolf? There is a precedent established for this very thing to exist when samac is town. Is it then at worst NAI?

I don't follow.

It means that her read on mayo right now should not be trusted regardless of her affiliation.

Why are you defending her so hard, Jay?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It means that her read on mayo right now should not be trusted regardless of her affiliation.

Why are you defending her so hard, Jay?

I'm trying to determine your precise intention, and perhaps you have just clarified. What is more important to shorty: "samac's mayo read is not necessarily solid" or "samac is wolfy"

I think the former is perfectly reasonable. The latter, given the dialogue that just occurred, would require broken logic. Digging into that inherently equates to "defending", but it's evident you two were struggling to communicate, and I decided to add my input.

I have no read on mayo, and I don't think this situation makes samac look better or worse. I'd town lean her on the basis of other things.

 

[supershorty]

What is more important to shorty: "samac's mayo read is not necessarily solid" or "samac is wolfy"

 

[Zenge142]

Day 0 Electoral Tally:

shorty (9) - shorty, AM, Dubz, Dina, Boq, Chic, PSV, shelter, Veggie
mkg (1) - mkg
SAR/Penaut (3) - SAR, genny, Samac
Stagg (1) - Stagg
AM (1) - JJJ
Dubz () -
JJJ (1) - Santy

 

[supershorty]

ooooh the temptation to change my vote just because Zenge likes to vote right after I post tallies...

 

[Zenge142]

vote samac tbh

Not without unvoting shorty first.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm trying to determine your precise intention, and perhaps you have just clarified. What is more important to shorty: "samac's mayo read is not necessarily solid" or "samac is wolfy"

I think the former is perfectly reasonable. The latter, given the dialogue that just occurred, would require broken logic. Digging into that inherently equates to "defending", but it's evident you two were struggling to communicate, and I decided to add my input.

I have no read on mayo, and I don't think this situation makes samac look better or worse. I'd town lean her on the basis of other things.

I think the main point is we have no reason to assume that this is outside of samac's wolf range (with the unfortunate addition of also not being able to reflect on mayo's affiliation).

 

[samac]

I

No. Because my point is that there is absolutely nothing stopping samac from doing this as a wolf.

I have no reason to trust her read on mayo.
I have no reason to trust that her doing this is town because I don't know that she's ever played with him when she was wolfing.

I do not like when people have a level of bravado and confidence in their read that isn't warranted. I further do not like it when that person is not particularly easy to read (for me) in early game.

Ive played with him as wolf.
I defended him from misyeet.
I think.

 

[Boquise]

Not without unvoting shorty first.

i forgot these authoritarian laws tbh

unvote shorty smh
vote samac tbh

 

[samac]

You know, I don't believe there's ever been a w!samac/v!mayo game so I don't know how they'd respond in that.

There has.
Ggoats?

 

[supershorty]

Ive played with him as wolf.

Twice.

Once 3 years ago and you read him correctly. It was also his first time wolfing.
Once 1.5 years ago and you did not read him correctly.

 

[samac]

i forgot these authoritarian laws tbh

unvote shorty smh
vote samac tbh

I don’t want it again. I’ve had it too many times it’s someone else’s turn.

I do welcome any and all scrutiny though

 

[supershorty]

There has.
Ggoats?

I don't believe mayo played GGoats.

 

[Animal Midwife]

There has.
Ggoats?

Oh. That game. Yeah, I remember he thought you were village there well into deadchat there.

 

[Boquise]

I don’t want it again. I’ve had it too many times it’s someone else’s turn.

I do welcome any and all scrutiny though

arent i voting for you for the yeet, not mayor?

 

[samac]

Twice.

Once 3 years ago and you read him correctly. It was also his first time wolfing.
Once 1.5 years ago and you did not read him correctly.

Wait what game 1.5 years ago?!

 

[supershorty]

Huh, apparently he did.

 

[Boquise]

samac's role is Jon Snow tbh

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think the main point is we have no reason to assume that this is outside of samac's wolf range (with the unfortunate addition of also not being able to reflect on mayo's affiliation).

I am sure she's capable of making that read as mafia, yes. I don't think it's indicative, but it's a simple enough read that I'd call it NAI.

 

[supershorty]

Wait what game 1.5 years ago?!

LITERARY

 

[samac]

Oh. That game. Yeah, I remember he thought you were village there well into deadchat there.

Yeah and I defended him hard from misyeet for it for sweet sweet village cred

 

[supershorty]

arent i voting for you for the yeet, not mayor?

There's no yeet today you goon

 

[samac]

LITERARY

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING A GAME I WAS WOLF 1.5 YEARS AGO
AAAAAAAAHHHH

 

[samac]

arent i voting for you for the yeet, not mayor?

No you jerk face
Also don’t yeet me

 

[Boquise]

There's no yeet today you goon

oh
then why am i here tbh
unvote samac
vote shorty tbh

 

[Zenge142]

Someone’s wheezing give you a chill down your spine. The room feels colder than it did a second ago…

 

[Boquise]

Someone’s wheezing give you a chill down your spine. The room feels colder than it did a second ago…

sorry, been running a marathon tbh

 

[samac]

Someone’s wheezing give you a chill down your spine. The room feels colder than it did a second ago…

God ****ing dammit I don’t like this

 

[Boquise]

No you jerk face
Also don’t yeet me

Now thats not very nice of you to say doctor tbh

 

[supershorty]

Someone’s wheezing give you a chill down your spine. The room feels colder than it did a second ago…

give AM her inhaler??????

 

[supershorty]

sorry, been running a marathon tbh

why would you do that tbh

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm about to watch football. Y'all just keep being super, k?