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[Santygrass]

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If the question is that if you were being panicky when we were scum together then I'd say the answer is no

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Perhaps my biggest hangup with chic is still their town reads on Clem and genny. Hard to reconcile given what's in the thread.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hi
Feels weird and I don’t like it

Thanks. @VeggieTrex perhaps you should clarify what you mean by "panicky"

 

[samac]

I dont understand the question

In the game the 3 of us wolfed together - was I panicky?

 

[samac]

I'd like to give us a shot at assessing some of the players that have been overwhelmed by the activity level (which is completely understandable, no judgment to anyone fitting that description). This might also give them something to work with instead of aimlessly shuffling through 36 pages with no hope of catching up. I'll start with sheltermed and just do a pure ISO review, both because I have no read and they were the first to come to mind when I asked myself "JJJ, who are you absolutely clueless about?"

genny, shield your eyes. Busywork in progress!

sheltermed ISO


These are the four posts that I thought were most game-relevant. Thoughts (colors have no bearing on affiliation; they're just reference):

Red - generally harmless Day 0 content, both mechanical speculation and deference of the mayor vote to shorty. The latter could be concerning from certain personalities, and I can't claim to know sheltermed's playing personality -- but I get the impression this is "fine" (like NAI fine). At this activity level and given enough self-doubt, a town player is capable of feeling this way (as is mafia player of just saying it).

Green - This is the first concrete read I have observed, and I think it should be a meaningful one. chicandtoughness seems like the game's most consensus suspect, so for sheltermed to join in that consensus is notable. The importance may depend on chic's affiliation (e.g., if town, I might view this with concern of opportunism).

Blue - I think I like this a bit? From an "I'm way behind and just trying to be a part of the game" perspective, this approach of having some vague notion of suspicion about mayo and chic, but in part deferring to the perspectives of others whose abilities you trust (e.g., shorty) -- I recognize that from myself. I handled AM's mayo suspicion in this way. I don't quite understand it, but I take it seriously because of the source. I think AM has a good bead on vibes, and so her word carries some weight for me.

This isn't a super concrete review, but that was unlikely anyway. If nothing else, it might give sheltermed something to interact with and find footing. The blue bit might be most telling to me, and that'd be a move in a positive direction. Overall there's still a need for more development.

I like this

 

[Santygrass]

If the question is that if you were being panicky when we were scum together then I'd say the answer is no

With a little more context, I'd say I would kinda agree with Veggie assesment. Instead of panicky I would say that your post feel less nuanced that when you are town ? Like it feels you are having less of a insight in how you see the game and are being more direct / base level idk

 

[samac]

If the question is that if you were being panicky when we were scum together then I'd say the answer is no

Oh you answered it.

Yeah.
I’m worried she may have had conversations with someone else about how I panic in another location now.
Cool.

 

[samac]

With a little more context, I'd say I would kinda agree with Veggie assesment. Instead of panicky I would say that your post feel less nuanced that when you are town ? Like it feels you are having less of a insight in how you see the game and are being more direct / base level idk

But you said I’m not panicky
I dunno I felt like I held it together real good that game and you all haven’t seen panicked wolf samac so it was just weird. Many others here have thought. PSV. AM. Dina.
Though the only one that might pair with Veggie in that setting is PSV

 

[Boquise]

You said I am a strong independent woman smh

Yes but I never said I was tbh

 

[Boquise]

I wrecked Samac tbh

 

[Santygrass]

But you said I’m not panicky
I dunno I felt like I held it together real good that game and you all haven’t seen panicked wolf samac so it was just weird. Many others here have thought. PSV. AM. Dina.
Though the only one that might pair with Veggie in that setting is PSV

Yes, you definetily held it together real good , good investment and very good wolf play. You had the kills planned and invested your bussing chips and had the victory in sight, so def not panicky

 

[genny]

genny, shield your eyes. Busywork in progress!

no no, busywork is what wolves assign to other players. when you do it yourself, it's just shadow magic.

 

[Stagg737]

What about her reads list was echo-y and had you publicly posted one?

Idr if I posted publicly, I think I did, felt off about Dy and JJJ early. AM felt (to a lesser extent still feels) off. Veggie posts below:

Well I'm on page two so far so not after just 10.

But from what I've read so far I'm feeling sus of JaggedJimmyJay and dyachei.

I agree with shorty re😛SLs.

I got nothing else so far though.

That's not much reading given how many pages there were to start posting sus "feels". Hedgey.

I need to go to sleep because I've had a very long and stressful week, and I have to go to work tomorrow.

I do want to say JJJ feels a bit 'how do you do fellow villager', but also hasn't interacted much with some of the other late posters.

A whole bunch of chics posts look wolfy to me. Especially regarding favorite roles.

I'm back and forth on PSV. The whole getting defensive about their first post is strange. But I'm too tired to commit to that yet.

I have other thoughts but not enough brain to make word good. I will try to be active tomorrow, but we will be very understaffed. Like super very understaffed.

All of these are fair reads, but mostly the people that others had been pushing as sus and echoing other people's arguments.

My most sketchy is chic. There really hasn't been a post from her that feels village yet. I don't remember enough of the noob game to say if this is how she was or not.

I'm wary of Santy, Stagg, PSV, and JJJ.

With PSV in particular I find it odd she wouldn't catch up. Maybe odd isn't the right word, but like half the thread at this point is samac talking about all of the (delicious sounding) drinks she's having.

I'm getting vibes from mayo, but I don't know what they are.

I have thoughts on other people, but don't know if I'm keeping everyone straight atm.

So same thing but added me and Santy to the list along with more talks of feels with Mayo. Basically just listing the people everyone feels are sus.

I actually have caught up.
Stagg hasn't done anything to outright make me say wolf, but overall I would lean more wolf than village. It's just the general vibe I get.

There were a couple of posts by santy that stood out, and I will find those tomorrow. I think there were a couple conversation loops that seemed non productive.

JJJ is all just vibes and stranger danger. Idk maybe I'll feel differently tomorrow.

More hedge and vibes. Statement that they'll look for Santy posts but no follow-through (yet).

Everything is hedgey and vaguely sheeping other people's reads/feelz. Could just be an alexithymic noob struggling to articulate their reasons and feelz, but also seems like a great way for scum to buy time/coast until more solid game direction develops.

 

[samac]

I wrecked Samac tbh

Wrecked?

 

[samac]

I think I also feel good about stagg.
Huh.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think I also feel good about stagg.
Huh.

I don't.

 

[samac]

Dina
AM
Shorty
Stagg
Are probably my top right now.

 

[samac]

I don't.

Why?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think it's fair for Stagg to bring the consensus nature of Veggie's reads into question (I have additional comments on that, but I'd prefer to let Veggie answer first).

It relates to a broader observation, however. I get the impression this game in general is working toward a pretty solid consensus. Most people that have stated reads have at least some overlap with each other (and some people have almost total overlap). I don't think that's concerning; I might even call it encouraging. It's just something I have noticed. There isn't a great deal of controversy about specific reads, with just a couple exceptions (maybe including myself, as some think I'm creepy and others think I'm towny).

 

[Stagg737]

I don't.

That's why you don't get any cake.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why?

He busses.

 

[samac]

I think it's fair for Stagg to bring the consensus nature of Veggie's reads into question (I have additional comments on that, but I'd prefer to let Veggie answer first).

It relates to a broader observation, however. I get the impression this game in general is working toward a pretty solid consensus. Most people that have stated reads have at least some overlap with each other (and some people have almost total overlap). I don't think that's concerning; I might even call it encouraging. It's just something I have noticed. There isn't a great deal of controversy about specific reads, with just a couple exceptions (maybe including myself, as some think I'm creepy and others think I'm towny).

I mean I think their contention over stagg, mayo, you, me. It doesn’t feel homogenous at all.
the fun thing is seeing how voted go down with a reported homogenous thread stare

 

[samac]

He busses.

So you think veggie is a wolf?

 

[Animal Midwife]

So you think veggie is a wolf?

Yes, I mentioned as such in a prior post.

 

[Stagg737]

He busses.

I don't need a bus this game, I got a shiny new tricycle. Gonna ride that bad boy all over the shelter.

 

[samac]

Yes, I mentioned as such in a prior post.

Eh
It’s not the susing of veggie that I think earns him village points. It’s the way he’s going about it and posting. He sounds good.

 

[samac]

I'm fine with mayo/Stagg/chic also being pressured.

I'm keeping my eye on Veggie as well because she seem really secure with the game state.

AM was this meant to say stagg and veggie are wolfing together?

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM was this meant to say stagg and veggie are wolfing together?

Yes.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'm pretty null on Stagg. I think his posts are generally okay; they just don't make me feel much. And the cards-close-to-chest method of developing reads (e.g., why suspecting me and then town reading me later) is, while a fair way to play the game, not amenable to me developing a clearer impression.

 

[Stagg737]

Yes.

So to be clear, you think I'm pulling a Sea Monsters where I start early bussing a wolf for no reason when no one else is voting there?

 

[Animal Midwife]

So to be clear, you think I'm pulling a Sea Monsters where I start early bussing a wolf for no reason when no one else is voting there?

We've been through this a million times so I am only saying this once. Sea Monsters was the first time you hard pushed a partner not the only time.

 

[Stagg737]

We've been through this a million times so I am only saying this once. Sea Monsters was the first time you hard pushed a partner not the only time.

It is the only time I started hard-bussing someone into oblivion with the sole purpose of gaining village cred though. Other episodes of bussing had many more reasons than that.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Animal Midwife are you able to describe just briefly why you find Stagg independently suspicious (without regard for VeggieTrex)?

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife are you able to describe just briefly why you find Stagg independently suspicious (without regard for VeggieTrex)?

Nothing he's said is outside of his wolfrange yet.

 

[samac]

Nothing he's said is outside of his wolfrange yet.

What’s his village range in your opinion?

 

[Animal Midwife]

What’s his village range in your opinion?

I'll let you know if I see it.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks, AM.

 

[Stagg737]

Since I'm bored and have time:

Sus list (ordered):
Veggie/Chic
PSV/Dy/JJJ
Clem

Towny feelz (mostly unordered):
Shorty
Peanut/SAR
Dina

Shelter
Santy

Squidgy feelz:
AM
Mayo

Idk feelz:
Boquise
Samac
Marmot
MKG
Nate

Wolf:
Dubz

Eta:
Genny:
Genny

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Stagg, your read on me is a roller coaster of emotions.

 

[Stagg737]

What’s his village range in your opinion?

For AM...when I flip village...

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Shelter
Santy

I'd love to hear more about these two in particular.

 

[samac]

Since I'm bored and have time:

Sus list (ordered):
Veggie/Chic
PSV/Dy/JJJ
Clem

Towny feelz (mostly unordered):
Shorty
Peanut/SAR
Dina

Shelter
Santy

Squidgy feelz:
AM
Mayo

Idk feelz:
Boquise
Samac
Marmot
MKG
Nate

Wolf:
Dubz

*squints*

Dubz?

 

[Stagg737]

I'd love to hear more about these two in particular.

They are slight village leans. I don't think I've ever seen Santy wolf or 3P and his reasoning seems fair and in interest of village. Shelter hasn't posted much and probably would be better in the idk pile, but I do think their most recent post was decent and will give some village credit there. Most of the Idk pile comes from me having no exposure to them and no strong feelz.

 

[Stagg737]

*squints*

Dubz?

Yes, Dubz is always a woof. I don't see a problem here.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Updated reads list, not ordered, also not caught up from D1 asdldkfjglkjask

Town: AM, shorty, SAR

Neutral with town lean: genny, Dina, samac, Santy

Idk: sheltermed, Boq, Dubz, Clem, marmot, Nate, mkg

Neutral with sus lean: dyachei, Veggie, JJJ, PSV

Sus: Stagg, mayo

EDIT: My autocorrect is AGGRESSIVE today

 

[samac]

Updated reads list, not ordered, also not caught up from D1 asdldkfjglkjask

Town: AM, shorty, SAR

Neutral with town lean: genny, Dina, samac, Santy

Idk: sheltermed, Boq, Dubz, Clem, marmot, Nate, mkg

Neutral with sus lean: dyachei, Veggie, JJJ, PSV

Sus: Stagg, mayo

EDIT: My autocorrect is AGGRESSIVE today

What has Sar done to get on the village end of things?

 

[samac]

They are slight village leans. I don't think I've ever seen Santy wolf or 3P and his reasoning seems fair and in interest of village. Shelter hasn't posted much and probably would be better in the idk pile, but I do think their most recent post was decent and will give some village credit there. Most of the Idk pile comes from me having no exposure to them and no strong feelz.

No exposure in the idk pile

I’m personally offended

 

[Stagg737]

No exposure in the idk pile

I’m personally offended

I said "Most" of the pile. You're the asterisk in the pile, kiddo.

 

[dyachei]

I'd love to know why I'm sus other than "defensive" because I still think responding to concerns is fine

I think I've been plenty village today and putting me with psv is laughable

 

[Stagg737]

Unofficial vote tally because fish brain needs reminding:

Chicandtough (2)- Samac, Mayo
PSV (2)- AM, Santy
Mayo (2) - Sheltermed, Chic
Veggie (1) - Stagg