Whichever one of you/vamp is not scum needs to stop this bad read echo chamber. I really hope this isn’t blind leading the blind into a dark tunnel you can’t find your ways out of because this has turned into a night-long distraction and it feels purposeful and wildly unhelpful.
thank you chic.
What were you hoping to gain from that exactly?
Because she’s admitted to townreading me and scumreading greedy. It shouldn’t matter whether greedy is scum or miller, he’s a better lim in that world than town that isn’t claimed negative utility. Especially as an attempt at a counterwagon to Clem and not wanting to vote SAR. It feels really weird. It feels like she crafted her reasoning for the vote after the fact and it didn’t really line up with what she said her reads were and she’s trying to double down on it now by giving every different world where voting me made sense when it didn’t. What info would me flipping town give her if she already thinks greedy is more likely scum? She’d just say “ah okay I must be right, greedy is scum pocketing Kay!” But then why not just lim greedy at that point? It’s not adding up.
Careful vampy the populace is going to scum/sus pair us for being supportive in public chat 😔
Mkg was the first person to say something about anyone being missing. I thought I caught something to do with their relation to specifically SAR or vampy.
You mean like you’re both doing to me and greedy all night?
She townread you well before the EoD shenanigans happened and opinions can change. If you’ve fallen down her townie list to the point where you’re below the supposedly miller, this makes total sense to me. Greedy at least made a clear claim to his negative utility role. You are still more of an unknown at this point.
This implies she still thinks you will flip town. What info does it give us if you flip scum though? 🤔
I do understand this line of thought though, and if vampy is scum then yes, this is likely what happened.
She literally claimed tonight, during night phase, that she still believed it was more likely greedy and that she was leaning me as town. That’s where my confusion is coming from.
Can you look at the Clem/vamp interactions I just posted as well as my EoD theory about vamp’s vote that I recently posted and let me know how likely you think that pairing might be from your perspective?
It means a lot to me that I’m purple 💜 it’s the little things lol
Anyone else can also do this and it would be very helpful to get other opinions, I just believe greedy will interact with me in good faith and I prefer good faith.
so you're telling me if i voted SAR i would be cleared? because i said i did not agree with the people being upped?
I mean, you GTH SAR as scum and me as scum. (which you walked back tonight, it feels like you didn’t reference you gth reads when saying you thought I was probably town when that could’ve been a built in excuse for you to use) You GTH Clem as town. I don’t understand why you vote me there unless you didn’t see the switch to SAR and thought MKG was still voting me. That would make me the next most viable wagon after Clem for you. I don’t know what votes you saw and which you didn’t when casting your vote. I’m assuming at EoD you’re voting in the poll first and posting your vote after to make sure it’s counted at the last second since poll vote matters over a posted vote. So I think it’s very possible you voted in the poll and were then typing your post while other votes were happening simultaneously. I think I’m fully in the camp that at minimum didn’t see mkg switch to Clem when you voted me.
Never, but I would before making a claim that had the distinct possibility to result in my death tbh
my response wasnt stitched to this reply oops. please read above
For the record, if you’re town and just wanted someone besides your townread Clem to be limmed and didn’t see the EoD votes switch, I’d fully believe that progression for voting me if you were town. But since you’re completely denying it, I can’t see the town reason for your actions without squinting and ignoring some things.
It’s equal now why? Because I’m pushing back on a read on me I know is wrong? Because I don’t think your reasoning makes sense? You’re basically saying you knew Clem was going to die and instead of doing anything to stop that you did a last minute reaction test that would yield no reaction because there was less than a minute to go before EoD? I just don’t think that makes any sense. Whatsoever.
so am i supposed to lie and say "no i didn't read them :c clear me please now!" no lol,
my SAR read never changed? when did i say that? but SAR hasn't done anything for me to confidently vote for them, so if they're town and i'm just going on a gut feeling, then they get D1 elim for no reason?
who said the reaction was for t-minus 1 minute left in the round? we're still talking about my EOD vote, this a reaction.
I just assumed you’d rather lim a scumread over just sitting by and watching a townread get limmed. And I wasn’t a viable option at the point, if you really had seen all the votes - and since you claimed it was a reaction test, it means you know I wasn’t dying.
You wanted greedy to react to one meaningless vote on me that wasn’t going to do anything?
i knew you weren't dying, i read all the votes up until i made my vote at 8:59pm. there was no eliminating you, nor did I truly want you gone D1. i wanted to see how greedy would react to the possibility of losing the only person who undoubtedly believes their claim.
yup.
What reaction are you expecting once day ends with one vote on me? Was I in real danger? Why would greedy react to “potentially losing me” when it didn’t happen? Did you get anything useful from your reaction test?
So you’re admitting you saw SAR at 3 votes and Clem at 4. And instead of tying the vote to potentially save a townread (Clem) and lim a scumread(SAR), you decided it was a better use of your vote to reaction test greedy.
Thoughts on the last page or so please
Yeah I really think its vamp at this point. Chic at least has a lot more reasoning and seem in the wrong world. Vamp has chosen to push something that looks pushable
I really hope you die, no offense lol but tbh I think even if you flip miller, I will still be pushed even though you’re the one that apparently is (or was) more sus.
no, i wasted my time by remotely trying to think on my own. noted.
You know I don’t react well to bad reads on me. I’m trying not to overreact and tunnel but it’s really hard to not believe there are bad intentions behind it when I can’t reconcile a town perspective within these moves/reads. I’m trying to find it, I really am.
I was genuinely asking if you got a read from your reaction test. I wasn’t asking rhetorically and I’m sorry if you’re town and you think that I’m saying you shouldn’t think on your own. That’s not at all my intention. I’m just finding it difficult to understand your progression with the moves you made and reads you had stated. But this reaction feels AtE-y. Which I don’t think is necessarily indicative as it can be genuine town frustration but it can easily be scum frustration as well.
Did you have any updated thoughts on the game?
Not sure if you knew we could talk at night this game unlike last game. I just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on what’s happened tonight (including the Clem flip) and if any of your reads have changed.
How likely are each of these worlds based on whatever it is you have insight to from your role:
