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303K said:
Hey all,

My options are in order of interview: UIC, Kansas, Oklahoma, Wake Forest, Wisconsin, Indiana, Case Western, Cleveland Clinic, SLU, Rush.

Only potential interest in subspecialty currently is in cards.
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Personally I'd put case/wisc 1 or 2. the others I dunno maybe indiana/uic/wake/rush ??
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Cards hopeful... how would you rank

UCSF
UChicago
Colorado
Utah
U of Washington
Wisconsin
Minnesota
UCSD
 
ABatOutofHeck said:
I'm have friends at all these programs and based on their experiences (can expand if anyone is interested), I would go as follows after your #1:
1) UCSF
2) MGH vs Penn
4) Stanford
5) Hopkins vs Columbia
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Hey, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind this ranking. I can PM you if you want but figure many people are deciding between the same programs so it may be more beneficial if you post it here.
 
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Hey, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind this ranking. I can PM you if you want but figure many people are deciding between the same programs so it may be more beneficial if you post it here.
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I'm going to caveat this by saying this is all my personal opinion, so take it with a whole shaker of salt.

Let me start by saying that I think the top 4 programs (BWH/MGH/UCSF/Hopkins) are a level of elite above the others. I know the conventional wisdom here is to minimize the differences between the top 10 - 20 academic medical centers as not being a hindrance to a competitive fellowship, which is not wrong if all you're interested is getting into a good fellowship, but I think it's wrong to say your career trajectory is going to be the same coming out of a Vanderbilt as it would be out of a MGH, especially if you're interested in academia and definitely if you're interested in public policy, global health, or anything nontraditional. For the people who are able to go to one of these programs, I think you should strongly consider doing so and think advice to treat the top 10 - 15 programs as a homogeneous group where how you rank them doesn't matter is misguided at best. Within this group, my general sense of people's happiness is BWH = UCSF > MGH >>> JHU, so I recommend ranking in that order unless you have a specific areas of interest or geographic preferences that change your personal preferences. I think Penn, Columbia, Duke, and U Washington are in the next tier and okay to bump ahead of the first tier based on personal preferences; that being said, my friends at Columbia and Duke hate their lives - they work you hard - so I was advising that poster not to put Columbia ahead of UCSF and MGH for lifestyle reasons. Stanford's a great program but it's necessarily limited by being located in suburbia as opposed to a major city and just doesn't have the same patient population as these other programs. I would recommend it for those who are more basic science minded.
 
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GI hopeful...what do you guys think? I'm not really worried about fellowship placement but curious as to how you guys would rank em.

Johns Hopkins, Stanford, NYU, Mt. Sinai, Beth Israel Deaconess, UCLA

Thanks!
 
Anyone have any thoughts on Virginia Commonwealth vs UW-Madison vs University of Cincinnati? I really liked all three and am struggling to find a way to differentiate them. Geography doesn't really matter to me, quality of training is all I really care about.
 
filthyd said:
GI hopeful...what do you guys think? I'm not really worried about fellowship placement but curious as to how you guys would rank em.

Johns Hopkins, Stanford, NYU, Mt. Sinai, Beth Israel Deaconess, UCLA

Thanks!
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Congrats on all the great interviews. I would personally rank Hopkins, UCLA, Stanford, sinai, bid, NYU. My reasoning Is Hopkins is above the rest and I would rather be in Cali than New York. And while sinai does have an excellent GI program, I just feel like Stanford and UCLA are a step above. All excellent programs though and you can't go wrong with any of them!
 
filthyd said:
GI hopeful...what do you guys think? I'm not really worried about fellowship placement but curious as to how you guys would rank em.

Johns Hopkins, Stanford, NYU, Mt. Sinai, Beth Israel Deaconess, UCLA

Thanks!
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Congrats on a great list of options.

Depends on what kind of a place you're looking for, and obviously geography. Personally I would go Stanford, UCLA, Hopkins, BIDMC, Sinai, NYU, but different people look for different things. If you have any specific q's feel free to PM me.

Good luck!
 
Hi guys,

I was having some trouble ranking these programs. I'm considering reputation, training ect. not so much location. I plan to go into pulm/cc for fellowship and was wondering which may have help the most with getting me set up. I know UPMC has a reputation for pulm/cc but wanted to hear anyone's thoughts about brown vs ucla harbor

Brown, UPMC, USC, UCLA-harbor, UCLA-Olive View, Cleveland Clinic, Utah, University of Arizona, Georgetown

Thanks in advance!
 
Joker88 said:
Hi guys,

I was having some trouble ranking these programs. I'm considering reputation, training ect. not so much location. I plan to go into pulm/cc for fellowship and was wondering which may have help the most with getting me set up. I know UPMC has a reputation for pulm/cc but wanted to hear anyone's thoughts about brown vs ucla harbor

Brown, UPMC, USC, UCLA-harbor, UCLA-Olive View, Cleveland Clinic, Utah, University of Arizona, Georgetown

Thanks in advance!
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UPMC way above the rest. Then maybe Brown, Utah, Cleveland and the rest after that
 
filthyd said:
GI hopeful...what do you guys think? I'm not really worried about fellowship placement but curious as to how you guys would rank em.

Johns Hopkins, Stanford, NYU, Mt. Sinai, Beth Israel Deaconess, UCLA

Thanks!
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If you are not concerned about fellowship placement then I would just rank them based on how you liked it and the location, which is purely subjective, as they will all provide solid training and you'll probably match into GI from any of those programs.

Where do you see yourself wanting to live in the future? This can be a factor as often residency location can affect fellowship location which would in turn affect job location.
 
any input on my first 5?

right now stands at

UPMC
UVa
WashU
Hopkins
Duke

the rest

My reasoning -> Hopkins not as family friendly vs UVa/UPMC/WashU (have kids + wife), Baltimore surprisingly expensive, school system is pretty much ****. If I was single/sans kids, Hopkins would be #1 no doubt. PD seemed very approachable, residents love him. Similar feelings regarding Duke, but may move up as I think about it more. Loved UPMC focus on residents, good teaching, PD seems nice, but ?autonomy, rigor of schedule (some weird hybrid of 4+4). Loved UVa + area, may move into #1 spot, 3+1 seems like a good balance between rigor and burn-out prevention. WashU, great program, St. Louis has some problems but overall decent city. May move into the #1 spot as well, depending on my mood.

questions -> am I stupid not putting Hopkins, Duke, WashU as 1, 2, 3? No lofty ambitions beyond possible fellowship but going to any one of those institutions will not close many (if any) doors. Ideally looking for program that takes it own, which doesn't seem like a problem at any of those institutions, however, cards at Duke may be very difficult to match into regardless.

thanks all.
 
Interesting question here. Family wise, Pittsburgh, Charlottesville, and the Durham/Raleigh area absolutely over St. Louis and Baltimore as you have mentioned.

UPMC is indeed a fantastic program and has a better balance of work/life overall than did UVa and Duke from what I gathered on my interview days and what I hear now from my colleagues at each of these.

I think trying to balance your priorities I would be choosing between UPMC and Duke for #1. Hopkins >> WashU (my 2 cents) since you can pick based on program quality as the family situation won't be drastically different between Baltimore and St. Louis.

UVa is a bit of a head scratcher as to where to place given arguably one of the best areas in the country to raise a family but trading off for a bit of a barn burner program that doesn't carry with it what the other barn burner (Hopkins, academic oomph) does.

Again, very interesting Q and ultimately I would think:

#1 UPMC vs Duke (seems like UPMC has the edge for you since Duke is #5)
#3 Hopkins vs UVa
#5 WashU

throwaway1939 said:
any input on my first 5?

right now stands at

UPMC
UVa
WashU
Hopkins
Duke

the rest

My reasoning -> Hopkins not as family friendly vs UVa/UPMC/WashU (have kids + wife), Baltimore surprisingly expensive, school system is pretty much ****. If I was single/sans kids, Hopkins would be #1 no doubt. PD seemed very approachable, residents love him. Similar feelings regarding Duke, but may move up as I think about it more. Loved UPMC focus on residents, good teaching, PD seems nice, but ?autonomy, rigor of schedule (some weird hybrid of 4+4). Loved UVa + area, may move into #1 spot, 3+1 seems like a good balance between rigor and burn-out prevention. WashU, great program, St. Louis has some problems but overall decent city. May move into the #1 spot as well, depending on my mood.

questions -> am I stupid not putting Hopkins, Duke, WashU as 1, 2, 3? No lofty ambitions beyond possible fellowship but going to any one of those institutions will not close many (if any) doors. Ideally looking for program that takes it own, which doesn't seem like a problem at any of those institutions, however, cards at Duke may be very difficult to match into regardless.

thanks all.
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Interesting question here. Family wise, Pittsburgh, Charlottesville, and the Durham/Raleigh area absolutely over St. Louis and Baltimore as you have mentioned.

UPMC is indeed a fantastic program and has a better balance of work/life overall than did UVa and Duke from what I gathered on my interview days and what I hear now from my colleagues at each of these.

I think trying to balance your priorities I would be choosing between UPMC and Duke for #1. Hopkins >> WashU (my 2 cents) since you can pick based on program quality as the family situation won't be drastically different between Baltimore and St. Louis.

UVa is a bit of a head scratcher as to where to place given arguably one of the best areas in the country to raise a family but trading off for a bit of a barn burner program that doesn't carry with it what the other barn burner (Hopkins, academic oomph) does.

Again, very interesting Q and ultimately I would think:

#1 UPMC vs Duke (seems like UPMC has the edge for you since Duke is #5)
#3 Hopkins vs UVa
#5 WashU
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Very interesting discussion. Based on what I have seen at these places, the workload at JHH seems to be dramatically higher than WashU. You may want to take this into consideration re: family friendliness. I may give St Louis an edge over Baltimore when considering cost of living, inner city quality of life. But that's just me.
 
Anyone have an opinion between Harbor-UCLA Versus Cedars Versus UCI?

Currently:
1. Harbor-UCLA
2. UCI
3. Cedars-Sinai
4. Montefiore
5. Olive View
 
Any recommendations? Will likely specialize but currently undifferentiated.

Currently:
1) Michigan
2) UTSW
3) UChicago
4) Yale
5) Pitt

I'm struggling mainly with UTSW v. UChicago for #2. I'm from the midwest and think I'd enjoy Chicago a lot more than Dallas. On the other hand it seems like UTSW might have the slight edge in clinical training/fellowship opportunities.
 
barristan said:
Any recommendations? Will likely specialize but currently undifferentiated.

Currently:
1) Michigan
2) UTSW
3) UChicago
4) Yale
5) Pitt

I'm struggling mainly with UTSW v. UChicago for #2. I'm from the midwest and think I'd enjoy Chicago a lot more than Dallas. On the other hand it seems like UTSW might have the slight edge in clinical training/fellowship opportunities.
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For what it's worth, I applied to heme/onc this year, interviewed at most of the super highly regarded places, and saw people from your 1-4 all over. So I think all those places keep the doors open. I didn't see that many Pitt people but that's probably just sample size cause they're pretty good too.
 
medstar2330 said:
From my understanding, Case and Minnesota have a comparable reputation, correct? If I already have Case scheduled and have the opportunity to nab a last minute Minn IV - thus having to scramble and change my travel plans, miss Case's dinner, and spend a few extra hundred $$$ on flights - should I take it?

I'm interested in fellowship and academics. I don't have many interviews otherwise. <8 including both.
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Yes. Minnesota is a solid program and given your relatively low numbers I would do this if I were you. Good luck!
 
Cards hopeful... How would you rank these?

1) Oklahoma
2) Texas A&M Scott and White
3) UTMB Galveston (havent interviewed here yet so that's why it's currently #3)

Also, how can you check results for the fellowship match for specific programs?

Thanks!
 
Hi all,

Cornell vs Case Western Reserve/University Hospitals?

Thinking of a cardiology fellowship in the future. I interviewed at and loved both places immensely, but felt that Case was slightly stronger overall (training, education, research). Case PD (Dr. Armitage) was phenomenal as well. I could live in Cleveland, but NYC has a special place in my heart which makes this so tough!

Thanks for your input!
 
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GI hopeful

Trying to figure out the top of my list, I'm all over the place.

UAB, Iowa, Utah, Maryland, MUSC, Cincinnati, Wake

thanks guys
 
Cards hopeful. Please help me rank. Brief thoughts below - feedback welcome and appreciated --> initiate SDN neuroticism.

Cornell: Would love living in NYC. Perceived good morale among residents. Work/life balance seems relatively good.

Northwestern: PD seems very approachable. Didn't really click with my interviewers, but that's not a huge detractor as I know you can just get unlucky sometimes. Residents here seemed to be among the most happy. Program has upward momentum and growth. Chicago is a cool city, but COLD. Reputation for being too "cushy", though I often wonder how quickly one reaches diminishing returns on training hours vs training quality.

Johns Hopkins: Great reputation. PD seemed very supportive and responsive to resident feedback. Baltimore is underrated though its not NYC/Chicago/LA. Endless research opportunity. Residents here seem to be very tight knit. Interns seem to really get worked hard, which is apparently a point of pride though I wonder how much of this results in enhancing clinical training vs just being some kind of sick hazing ritual. Regardless, I was impressed with the clinical knowledge of the residents.

Yale: Didn't love New Haven, but plus side is cost of living. Among all places interviewed, they seemed to strike a great balance of resident autonomy vs still having a focus on education. They also make more effort to market themselves, which I like.

Mayo Clinic: Rochester is pretty rough. There really doesn't seem to be anything there other than the hospital. That said, I think location is the only detractor. Clicked well with residents here, and I think they foster a collegial culture. 4+4 is pretty awesome, and they throw in a lot of perks you won't find elsewhere. Work life here seems amazing, but recreational life would take some adjustment.

University of Washington: Happiest residents and nicest PD in the world. Seattle is awesome. Not sure how their cards matching record compares to others listed.

Thanks!
 
Hey guys. I was thinking about cards or pulm/critical care. Not 100% sure yet. I was wondering what your input was on the places I've narrowed it down to. Location plays a pretty minimal part for me.

Mayo- I liked mayo a lot. I thought the residents were very happy and the research they did was great. Like bigwerm said, location isn't great, but that isn't too much of a deal breaker for me. The only thing that keeps me from 100% commiting to wanting to go there is that maybe the rep isn't as good as some other places I am considering. Also, they don't have nearly as many residents coming from top tier Med schools like other places.

Northwestern- really like the program, the city, and the PD. All around great place. Even though it has that "Cush" stigma or that all their patients have money, I don't think that is necessarily the case. City has the best appeal compared to the other programs

WashU-on paper it is a great program. I think I would get great training and research done there, but I just wasn't as impressed as some of the others on interview day.

Duke-another great program on paper, but I feel like the residents were really overworked

Michigan- program that I saw had the residents that were most fun. Solid training and research opportunities.

UTSW- autonomy here seemed unparrelled to any where else I looked at.

Pitt-thought it was a great place as well. Felt like residents didn't do as much on the ICU since their pulm/crit program is so strong.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
 
Yipyip said:
Hey guys. I was thinking about cards or pulm/critical care. Not 100% sure yet. I was wondering what your input was on the places I've narrowed it down to. Location plays a pretty minimal part for me.

Mayo- I liked mayo a lot. I thought the residents were very happy and the research they did was great. Like bigwerm said, location isn't great, but that isn't too much of a deal breaker for me. The only thing that keeps me from 100% commiting to wanting to go there is that maybe the rep isn't as good as some other places I am considering. Also, they don't have nearly as many residents coming from top tier Med schools like other places.

Northwestern- really like the program, the city, and the PD. All around great place. Even though it has that "Cush" stigma or that all their patients have money, I don't think that is necessarily the case. City has the best appeal compared to the other programs

WashU-on paper it is a great program. I think I would get great training and research done there, but I just wasn't as impressed as some of the others on interview day.

Duke-another great program on paper, but I feel like the residents were really overworked

Michigan- program that I saw had the residents that were most fun. Solid training and research opportunities.

UTSW- autonomy here seemed unparrelled to any where else I looked at.

Pitt-thought it was a great place as well. Felt like residents didn't do as much on the ICU since their pulm/crit program is so strong.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Pick where you like the most and stick with it. Literally none of these will prevent you from going to a good PCCM fellowship or cards fellowship.
 
Yipyip said:
Hey guys. I was thinking about cards or pulm/critical care. Not 100% sure yet. I was wondering what your input was on the places I've narrowed it down to. Location plays a pretty minimal part for me.

Mayo- I liked mayo a lot. I thought the residents were very happy and the research they did was great. Like bigwerm said, location isn't great, but that isn't too much of a deal breaker for me. The only thing that keeps me from 100% commiting to wanting to go there is that maybe the rep isn't as good as some other places I am considering. Also, they don't have nearly as many residents coming from top tier Med schools like other places.

Northwestern- really like the program, the city, and the PD. All around great place. Even though it has that "Cush" stigma or that all their patients have money, I don't think that is necessarily the case. City has the best appeal compared to the other programs

WashU-on paper it is a great program. I think I would get great training and research done there, but I just wasn't as impressed as some of the others on interview day.

Duke-another great program on paper, but I feel like the residents were really overworked

Michigan- program that I saw had the residents that were most fun. Solid training and research opportunities.

UTSW- autonomy here seemed unparrelled to any where else I looked at.

Pitt-thought it was a great place as well. Felt like residents didn't do as much on the ICU since their pulm/crit program is so strong.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: not having students from top tier schools - I noticed the same thing about WashU, most residents are from mid-low tier Midwestern / Southern schools. Many interviewees from schools I'd never heard of. Wondering if this is because of location? Or something else?
 
tryptophan321 said:
Re: not having students from top tier schools - I noticed the same thing about WashU, most residents are from mid-low tier Midwestern / Southern schools. Many interviewees from schools I'd never heard of. Wondering if this is because of location? Or something else?
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I have seen several comments like this before and always thought that this metric tells you very little about the strength of a specific program, unless you have insight into the philosophy of each place. There are programs that like to fill with graduates from big name schools, even if they are middle or bottom of the class, while others believe in getting the best graduates from any top-30 or 50 schools that fall to them (as they are possibly stronger candidates). Otherwise, Hopkins would fill its class with JHU and HSM students only. So, just relax and trust your gut.

Same with fellowship match lists. I think it is ridiculous to assume that program X is stronger than Y for cards/GI/heme-onc (whatever you desire) placement. This is likely just confounded by the fact that people that want to do subspecialty X go into the programs with the strongest recent match list, not realizing that they would have gotten in also from any other program in the same tier. If you are good, you will get into your fellowship of choice (at your program of choice).
 
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I have seen several comments like this before and always thought that this metric tells you very little about the strength of a specific program, unless you have insight into the philosophy of each place. There are programs that like to fill with graduates from big name schools, even if they are middle or bottom of the class, while others believe in getting the best graduates from any top-30 or 50 schools that fall to them (as they are possibly stronger candidates). Otherwise, Hopkins would fill its class with JHU and HSM students only. So, just relax and trust your gut.

Same with fellowship match lists. I think it is ridiculous to assume that program X is stronger than Y for cards/GI/heme-onc (whatever you desire) placement. This is likely just confounded by the fact that people that want to do subspecialty X go into the programs with the strongest recent match list, not realizing that they would have gotten in also from any other program in the same tier. If you are good, you will get into your fellowship of choice (at your program of choice).
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Yeah agreed I don't think the school that residents come from is a big deal, just a thing that I noticed at that particular "elite" school and was curious about. But I do think fellowship match lists are a useful metric, not so much within tiers but to distinguish between programs that are notably different in strength
 
I plan on doing GI. My top 5 are:
1. Minnesota
2. UAB
3. Indiana
4. MUSC
5. Thomas Jefferson

Thoughts? I keep rearranging 1-3 as based on my interview experience I think I would be happy at any of them, but I'm not sure if reputation wise one of these is significantly better than the other. I'd like to stay in the Midwest or South.
 
Please help me rank these programs:
IMG on J1 Visa planning on going into Cardio or GI. This is my tentative rank order list:

1. Baystate Medical Center, Springfield MA
2. Mount Auburn Hospital, Cambridge MA
3. Steward St. Elizabeth Medical Center, Boston MA
4. University of Arizona South Campus, Tucson AZ
5. St. Vincent Hospital, Worcester MA
6. University of Miami Palm Beach Regional/JFK Medical Center, West Palm Beach FL
7. University of Miami Holy Cross Hospital, Fort Lauderdale FL
8. Unity Hospital/Rochester Regional Health, Rochester NY
9. Crozer Medical Center, Philadelphia PA

Thanks.
 
I can see this year's thread is not different than the last 10.

I even note the same arguments about the elite programs and just how very very very important they all are.
 
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I plan on doing GI. My top 5 are:
1. Minnesota
2. UAB
3. Indiana
4. MUSC
5. Thomas Jefferson

Thoughts? I keep rearranging 1-3 as based on my interview experience I think I would be happy at any of them, but I'm not sure if reputation wise one of these is significantly better than the other. I'd like to stay in the Midwest or South.
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I like the order you have them but you really could put any of those top 3 in any order and be just fine. None of them has a significantly better reputation, or opportunities, than the others.
 
jdh71 said:
I can see this year's thread is not different than the last 10.

I even note the same arguments about the elite programs and just how very very very important they all are.
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Well yeah. Apparently God forbid someone end up at a mid tier decent medicine program that trains good doctors. what kind of neurotics would people here be if there wasn't a concern about the degree to which their ego needed to be stroked?

(Again not a knock on elite programs, just the idea that success = only the elite)
 
PatNanym said:
Please help me rank these programs:
IMG on J1 Visa planning on going into Cardio or GI. This is my tentative rank order list:

1. Baystate Medical Center, Springfield MA
2. Mount Auburn Hospital, Cambridge MA
3. Steward St. Elizabeth Medical Center, Boston MA
4. University of Arizona South Campus, Tucson AZ
5. St. Vincent Hospital, Worcester MA
6. University of Miami Palm Beach Regional/JFK Medical Center, West Palm Beach FL
7. University of Miami Holy Cross Hospital, Fort Lauderdale FL
8. Unity Hospital/Rochester Regional Health, Rochester NY
9. Crozer Medical Center, Philadelphia PA

Thanks.
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I've heard great things about Baystate, St. Elizabeth, and St. Vincent's. Met a few of their residents on the cards trail.
 
bigwerm said:
Cards hopeful. Please help me rank. Brief thoughts below - feedback welcome and appreciated --> initiate SDN neuroticism.

Cornell: Would love living in NYC. Perceived good morale among residents. Work/life balance seems relatively good.

Northwestern: PD seems very approachable. Didn't really click with my interviewers, but that's not a huge detractor as I know you can just get unlucky sometimes. Residents here seemed to be among the most happy. Program has upward momentum and growth. Chicago is a cool city, but COLD. Reputation for being too "cushy", though I often wonder how quickly one reaches diminishing returns on training hours vs training quality.

Johns Hopkins: Great reputation. PD seemed very supportive and responsive to resident feedback. Baltimore is underrated though its not NYC/Chicago/LA. Endless research opportunity. Residents here seem to be very tight knit. Interns seem to really get worked hard, which is apparently a point of pride though I wonder how much of this results in enhancing clinical training vs just being some kind of sick hazing ritual. Regardless, I was impressed with the clinical knowledge of the residents.

Yale: Didn't love New Haven, but plus side is cost of living. Among all places interviewed, they seemed to strike a great balance of resident autonomy vs still having a focus on education. They also make more effort to market themselves, which I like.

Mayo Clinic: Rochester is pretty rough. There really doesn't seem to be anything there other than the hospital. That said, I think location is the only detractor. Clicked well with residents here, and I think they foster a collegial culture. 4+4 is pretty awesome, and they throw in a lot of perks you won't find elsewhere. Work life here seems amazing, but recreational life would take some adjustment.

University of Washington: Happiest residents and nicest PD in the world. Seattle is awesome. Not sure how their cards matching record compares to others listed.

Thanks!
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Hopkins, followed by Cornell/NW/UW. If you think you may want to stay in NYC for fellowship, maybe lean towards Cornell, same thing for west coast and UW. NW seems to have a slightly wider network than the other 2. Last would be Yale then mayo. I agree with you on rochester and it doesn't seem that many residents leave Mayo for fellowship so that could be a concern if you're interested in doing fellowship elsewhere.
 
I've been a long time lurker. Used to use the forums a lot when I first applied to med school and now again with this whole residency process. I'm interested in cardiology or pulm/cc and have an interest in quality improvement. If you can't tell from my list of schools I'm from the SDN hated state of Texas (I like it though, but am open to moving). What does everyone think about the placement of my 1 vs 2 and then my 3 vs 4? I don't know how to compare places like UTSW and UCSD against one another.. Also, am I selling any lower ranked places short?

1. UTSW
2. UCSD
3. Emory
4. OHSU
5. UVA
6. UAB
7. Baylor
8. Wisconsin
9. Tulane
10. Case Western University Hospitals
11. Georgetown
12. UT-Houston
13. UTHSCSA
14. UTMB
15. UT Austin
 
medstudent_101 said:
I've been a long time lurker. Used to use the forums a lot when I first applied to med school and now again with this whole residency process. I'm interested in cardiology or pulm/cc and have an interest in quality improvement. If you can't tell from my list of schools I'm from the SDN hated state of Texas (I like it though, but am open to moving). What does everyone think about the placement of my 1 vs 2 and then my 3 vs 4? I don't know how to compare places like UTSW and UCSD against one another.. Also, am I selling any lower ranked places short?

1. UTSW
2. UCSD
3. Emory
4. OHSU
5. UVA
6. UAB
7. Baylor
8. Wisconsin
9. Tulane
10. Case Western University Hospitals
11. Georgetown
12. UT-Houston
13. UTHSCSA
14. UTMB
15. UT Austin
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I think that list looks fine. I'd put Wisco higher, but I'm not a big fan of the South so that's mostly geography.

And it's not SDN that hates Texas. Just me.
 
gutonc said:
I think that list looks fine. I'd put Wisco higher, but I'm not a big fan of the South so that's mostly geography.

And it's not SDN that hates Texas. Just me.
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Thanks for your feedback. I've never lived in a place that gets as cold as Wisconsin does so I don't know if I can handle that. And even though Wisconsin has a 100% match rate into fellowship year after year the majority of people stay on at Wisconsin for fellowship.

Any thoughts on if UTSW UCSD Emory or OHSU have significant differences between them in terms of fellowship chances? I realize it's going to be what I put into the residency that will impact my chances the most but if I go to Oregon or San Diego are my chances to come back to the South still good for fellowship?
 
medstudent_101 said:
Any thoughts on if UTSW UCSD Emory or OHSU have significant differences between them in terms of fellowship chances? I realize it's going to be what I put into the residency that will impact my chances the most but if I go to Oregon or San Diego are my chances to come back to the South still good for fellowship?
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You'll be fine.
 
Yipyip said:
Hey guys. I was thinking about cards or pulm/critical care. Not 100% sure yet. I was wondering what your input was on the places I've narrowed it down to. Location plays a pretty minimal part for me.

Mayo- I liked mayo a lot. I thought the residents were very happy and the research they did was great. Like bigwerm said, location isn't great, but that isn't too much of a deal breaker for me. The only thing that keeps me from 100% commiting to wanting to go there is that maybe the rep isn't as good as some other places I am considering. Also, they don't have nearly as many residents coming from top tier Med schools like other places.

Northwestern- really like the program, the city, and the PD. All around great place. Even though it has that "Cush" stigma or that all their patients have money, I don't think that is necessarily the case. City has the best appeal compared to the other programs

WashU-on paper it is a great program. I think I would get great training and research done there, but I just wasn't as impressed as some of the others on interview day.

Duke-another great program on paper, but I feel like the residents were really overworked

Michigan- program that I saw had the residents that were most fun. Solid training and research opportunities.

UTSW- autonomy here seemed unparrelled to any where else I looked at.

Pitt-thought it was a great place as well. Felt like residents didn't do as much on the ICU since their pulm/crit program is so strong.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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If you're interested in putting yourself in the best position for fellowship, I would put duke first, then pitt/mayo last. NW/WashU/Michigan/UTSW are more or less on the same level and I would choose based on how you felt about each program. Pitt I heard the same thing about autonomy on ICU and I don't think the reputation is quite up to the level of the other programs, same with mayo. In the end, all of these programs will train you well and you'll likely match coming out of any of them.

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Thanks for your feedback. I've never lived in a place that gets as cold as Wisconsin does so I don't know if I can handle that. And even though Wisconsin has a 100% match rate into fellowship year after year the majority of people stay on at Wisconsin for fellowship.

Any thoughts on if UTSW UCSD Emory or OHSU have significant differences between them in terms of fellowship chances? I realize it's going to be what I put into the residency that will impact my chances the most but if I go to Oregon or San Diego are my chances to come back to the South still good for fellowship?
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If you think you'd want to go to the south for fellowship, you may want to favor the southern programs more than the west coast programs. UCSD is a little stronger in reputation than OHSU, however, I've heard a few times that it's harder for west coast residents to go east for fellowship as compared to the opposite.
 
Interested in cards or pulm/CC. Programs are listed in the order I like them, but it keeps changing. I would appreciate any advice on ranking these or opinions from people who interviewed at these programs.

1. USC: Gut feeling here.
2. Loyola: Gut feeling. Love the PD. Like that it’s 4+1. Don’t like the weather
3. Wake Forest: Good impression of the program but no gut feeling. Considering making it #2 because I don’t like Chicago weather.
4. Baylor: I tried to like it but I didn’t. My impression is that it’s one of the stronger programs on my list so I can’t justify moving it lower than this.
5. Mayo Jacksonville
6. USF
7. UT Houston
8. Cedars-Sinai
9. Houston Methodist
10. UF: Like the program. Don’t want to live in Gainesville.
11. RWJ
12. LSU
 
Long time lurker... any help would be appreciated.
Interested in heme/onc vs. cards
Vanderbilt, UTSW, Duke, Mayo Rochester, Mayo FL, UNC
 
I'd appreciate some feedback. These are all IM program. Current aspirations Heme/Onc. I'm Canadian, so I'll have a break between residency and fellowship and so obviously a place that will give me the most exposure or research opportunities would be best.

My list is nothing like the lists I've seen above... Lol


Current ranking:

SUNY upstate
Maimonides medical center
St. Marys hospital, CT
Jewish hospital Cincinnati, OH
St. Barnabas hospital, NJ
Uni Alabama Montgomery
St. Elizabeth Youngstown
Redmond regional mc, Rome
Mercy Catholic Medical Center, Darby, PA
Mercy St. Vincent Toledo

Feedback is very much appreciated!!
 
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