PaWWsta - The Game that WWrites Itself (Game Thread)

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SARdoghandler said:
Because

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Obvs
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Nope, not even gonna fix it. People can quote it if they feel invested enough to see it
 
VeggieTrex said:
Does anyone have a count of what votes have moved around? I could a little later, but was curious if anyone is more on top of that.
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Curious why you want to highlight this. What are you looking for or hoping to find?

(Genuine question about your thoughts process, in case it comes off as sassy since I've vote hopped)
 
Since Dina has moved her vote off me and has offered very reasonable and productive feedback, I'll abandon my vote against her.

There are still 3 people who have not yet offered a vote. Miranda has been making good points today and has still been catching up, so ill let her off the hook. Wonda already has a decent amount of sus in their direction, so I don't think my vote would be helpful in causing more action.

That just leaves @mkg323. Besides offering some theories about 3P, they have not contributed much of substance to the wolfhunt. I don't really have a reason to find them sus, besides lack of activity, so I hope this vote will help change that.

Unyeet Dina yeet mkg323 @supershorty
 
SARdoghandler said:
Curious why you want to highlight this. What are you looking for or hoping to find?

(Genuine question about your thoughts process, in case it comes off as sassy since I've vote hopped)
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I just wanted to see trends throughout the day, it's hard for me to keep track as the thread goes. It's mostly curiosity at this point.
 
Dinashadow said:
But can you understand why a self-vote is sus?
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I have some general ideas but explain it to me.

Dinashadow said:
Why?
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I liked the callout of veggie for 3P, generally they seem to agree about the self vote by matt.

Dinashadow said:
You feel decent about AM even though she's the one who has probably pushed matt the hardest, but everyone else who has found matt sus is sus?
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AM just seems to be playing the same as last game, going after someone for any and all sus. That seems to be consistent.

Dinashadow said:
What? You don't think matt is village-y, but people sussing him are wolfy? I'm having trouble following your logic.

Your entire logic surrounding this seems to be operating under an assumption that matt is village if everyone voting for him/sussing him is wolfy, but you're also calling it NAI which is why I'm not really following your logic. I guess overall it's feeling very hedgy to me
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*sigh* I don't have matt in the village category. Matt is currently neutral for me as he is the focal point for this entire explanation. I don't think what matt did or has said (the vote or thereafter) is village or wolf indicative. Yet other people claim it was wolf indicative. I do not agree. There's not much else to go on (from my perspective), so one of my trains of thought is to think it's a purposeful yeet from wolves. This would put matt in the village leaning category, yes. But I also don't think it's out of the question, if Matt is a wolf, other wolves would also lightly sus/bonk Matt for doing such a thing & bring attention to himself. I.e. Matt could be wolf or village.

Either way, the main thing is I don't agree with the reasoning behind the votes. So I focus on them. This is why chic, mkg, and SAR are in my less sus category, they didn't think it was sus/didn't comment.
 
mightyrunner7 said:
Since Dina has moved her vote off me and has offered very reasonable and productive feedback, I'll abandon my vote against her.

There are still 3 people who have not yet offered a vote. Miranda has been making good points today and has still been catching up, so ill let her off the hook. Wonda already has a decent amount of sus in their direction, so I don't think my vote would be helpful in causing more action.

That just leaves @mkg323. Besides offering some theories about 3P, they have not contributed much of substance to the wolfhunt. I don't really have a reason to find them sus, besides lack of activity, so I hope this vote will help change that.

Unyeet Dina yeet mkg323 @supershorty
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I actually thought mkg's posts so far have felt more on the okay side of things for her lol


Although I'm not sure I've ever read her correctly so :thinking:
 
WildZoo said:
I actually thought mkg's posts so far have felt more on the okay side of things for her lol


Although I'm not sure I've ever read her correctly so :thinking:
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I could still see more there. She mainly said she wanted to hear from Clem, genny, and Santy and that she was village reading matt.
 
No need to be ravilonely when we're all together - Day 1 Tagliatally

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chic (1) - genny
AM (1) - matt
Veggie (1) - chic
matt (4) - Clem, Veggie, AM, Dina
genny ()
mighty ()
Clem (4) - Dubz, Vis, samac, Wondalfy
Dina ()
samac ()
Vis (1) - Santy
Wondalfy (1) - SAR
mkg (1) - mighty

@matthirten13 and @Clem J, you are in the lead!
A tieeeeeeeee :corny:
14/16 voting
Missing: @miranda920, @mkg323

Vote closes tonight at 12am Mermaid Time/10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm Fantasyland (~7.5 hours).
 
Dinashadow said:
okay the only thing I'm seeing about clem is they unvoted veggie to naked vote matt and it was assumed it was because of the self-vote? But clem came back and said they didn't even realize that it was a self-vote and it was because of Matt's opening? Which I'm not sure what to read from just that tbh

I am seeing a reasoning why dubz voted clem, but @Wondalfy how does your read on clem change knowing that they didn't vote matt because of matt's self-vote?
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It doesn't. I don’t really believe it lol (sorry clem). Matt's first message was literally the self vote
 
Honestly this game has been way more chill than the last two and that's been super nice tbh.

I think AM, Dubz, and SAR have been providing some good thoughts and questions.

Miranda made a pretty late entrance and has a good cover, but I'd still like to see some more from her.

Clem has been quite but that seems normal, still not sure what to do there.

I feel like chic is always a good player even though she's got a vote on me rn.

I probably have more thoughts, but I have a meeting with one of my advisors coming up in a few and I should probably get ready for that.
 
mightyrunner7 said:
Matt, I'm not fully following this reasoning. If this is what you truly believe, why wouldn't you move your vote to Clem? Keeping it alone on AM isn't doing much good, but voting against Clem would help reduce this concern of appearing to be a pack.

I didn't want to comment regarding the self yeet, since this was clearly intended as a joke to me. I also didn't appreciate the flak you were getting for abandoning a self-yeet position (what were you supposed to say? "Please yeet me!"). However, The interactions since appear counterproductive and lack much obvious rationale. For example, Dina is accusing you of focusing on self preservation, but as I just identified, you're not taking the logical steps to follow through with that framework
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Sus post
 
Wondalfy said:
I have some general ideas but explain it to me.
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Dinashadow said:
Additionally, re: self-voting, I know this has already been discussed, but it boils down to this - when you self-vote you are either village and making an anti-village play or you're a wolf feeling some guilt
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Dinashadow said:
Because they want to place a vote D1 and look villagey but feel guilty

Because they want to seem joking and carefree when they're really terrified on the inside

Because they're pulling a WIFOM and hope people will not expect a wolf to do it

Should I go on?
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^^^^

Wondalfy said:
I liked the callout of veggie for 3P, generally they seem to agree about the self vote by matt.


AM just seems to be playing the same as last game, going after someone for any and all sus. That seems to be consistent.


*sigh* I don't have matt in the village category. Matt is currently neutral for me as he is the focal point for this entire explanation. I don't think what matt did or has said (the vote or thereafter) is village or wolf indicative. Yet other people claim it was wolf indicative. I do not agree. There's not much else to go on (from my perspective), so one of my trains of thought is to think it's a purposeful yeet from wolves. This would put matt in the village leaning category, yes. But I also don't think it's out of the question, if Matt is a wolf, other wolves would also lightly sus/bonk Matt for doing such a thing & bring attention to himself. I.e. Matt could be wolf or village.

Either way, the main thing is I don't agree with the reasoning behind the votes. So I focus on them. This is why chic, mkg, and SAR are in my less sus category, they didn't think it was sus/didn't comment.
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There are plenty of times I don't agree with someone's vote but can follow the logic behind it and feel like it's coming from a village mindset, which is why I asked you if you understood why people might find Matt sus.

It just seems like you're putting a lot of your reads on people's opinion's of Matt which doesn't really line up with you just reading Matt's actions NAI, so that's where I'm really getting stuck
 
mightyrunner7 said:
I agree that people should use votes to wolf hunt, and about half of us (myself included) have so far failed to do that.

My point is if a person was so afraid of a packmate accusation that they spent the time to explicitly lay out the concern, I find it odd that they wouldn't use the vote to help alleviate that concern.

It's the first day, and we all have no actual evidence to go on. Everyone's confidence on votes should be near-zero, and strongly defending any position at this point seems to me to be a little sus, since the only people who have knowledge are the wolves.
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This one also feels off.
 
Sounds like mighty’s looking for places to throw shade that looks like original reasoning, and doesn’t care if the reasoning doesn’t make much sense for wolfhunting (“why would you not vote someone you’re not necessarily wolfreading just because you’re concerned people will think you’re in a pack” [that’s a purely wolf thought process and also makes me wonder if the reason it was what mighty came up with was because he’s in that mindframe], “it’s weird to push someone for unvoting themselves” [when the context is that they were basically told “that’s a wolfy thing to do” and they immediately folded and were like LOOK NO IM BEING VILLAGEY], and “kinda sus to push anyone hard D1”)

Vote mightyrunner
 
Santygrass said:
Unyeet Viscernable

Yeet Mightyrunner


I liked those last post ngl
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I actually have other stuff to say, but that'll be later sinc Im kinda busy rn :^)

But I have pings on the Dina-Mighty interactios that felt weird? And I think Vis post about Mighty made me more comfy exploring Mighty for now hmmmyes
 
Dinashadow said:
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Hmm I didn't consider the guilt thing, but I still think it easily leans either way (village or wolf), especially with a noob. Yes, ultimately it would be anti-village to vote yourself as a village, but I'm not sure a noob would see it that way (I did not).

Dinashadow said:
There are plenty of times I don't agree with someone's vote but can follow the logic behind it and feel like it's coming from a village mindset, which is why I asked you if you understood why people might find Matt sus.

It just seems like you're putting a lot of your reads on people's opinion's of Matt which doesn't really line up with you just reading Matt's actions NAI, so that's where I'm really getting stuck
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I think I explained it as best I could in my previous post, I can see it going either way. Matt = village -> wolves misyeet. Matt = wolf -> wolves mad that Matt would do that/call him out. I don't see wolves defending Matt if Matt is a wolf (I know I would be included in this category), which is why my less sus category is what it is.
 
Who's dying friendos
 
Dinashadow said:
okay the only thing I'm seeing about clem is they unvoted veggie to naked vote matt and it was assumed it was because of the self-vote? But clem came back and said they didn't even realize that it was a self-vote and it was because of Matt's opening? Which I'm not sure what to read from just that tbh

I am seeing a reasoning why dubz voted clem, but @Wondalfy how does your read on clem change knowing that they didn't vote matt because of matt's self-vote?
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I wanted to see what happened if votes moved around a bit and dubz asked for someone on his vote so I obliged. I do find it interesting that he somehow managed to jump in the lead above matt without ever being here.
 
Wondalfy said:
I have some general ideas but explain it to me.


I liked the callout of veggie for 3P, generally they seem to agree about the self vote by matt.


AM just seems to be playing the same as last game, going after someone for any and all sus. That seems to be consistent.


*sigh* I don't have matt in the village category. Matt is currently neutral for me as he is the focal point for this entire explanation. I don't think what matt did or has said (the vote or thereafter) is village or wolf indicative. Yet other people claim it was wolf indicative. I do not agree. There's not much else to go on (from my perspective), so one of my trains of thought is to think it's a purposeful yeet from wolves. This would put matt in the village leaning category, yes. But I also don't think it's out of the question, if Matt is a wolf, other wolves would also lightly sus/bonk Matt for doing such a thing & bring attention to himself. I.e. Matt could be wolf or village.

Either way, the main thing is I don't agree with the reasoning behind the votes. So I focus on them. This is why chic, mkg, and SAR are in my less sus category, they didn't think it was sus/didn't comment.
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You are so dang on hedgey. All the talk about Matt being a misyeet and defending that but then calling him neutral doesn’t make sense.
 
VeggieTrex said:
Honestly this game has been way more chill than the last two and that's been super nice tbh.

I think AM, Dubz, and SAR have been providing some good thoughts and questions.

Miranda made a pretty late entrance and has a good cover, but I'd still like to see some more from her.

Clem has been quite but that seems normal, still not sure what to do there.

I feel like chic is always a good player even though she's got a vote on me rn.

I probably have more thoughts, but I have a meeting with one of my advisors coming up in a few and I should probably get ready for that.
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So 4 village reads and 2 neutrals?
Any evolving wolf reads?
 
Santygrass said:
I actually have other stuff to say, but that'll be later sinc Im kinda busy rn :^)

But I have pings on the Dina-Mighty interactios that felt weird? And I think Vis post about Mighty made me more comfy exploring Mighty for now hmmmyes
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Pings that Dina and mighty are wolfing together?
 
samac said:
Is hopping around a lot a villagey or wolfy trait?
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Depends who's doing it and why. In general I would think more village on D1, but maybe if patterns continue through other days more wolfy.

Edit:word ->wolfy because autocorrect is fun!
 
samac said:
You are so dang on hedgey. All the talk about Matt being a misyeet and defending that but then calling him neutral doesn’t make sense.
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Kinda tired of explaining this. I think a misyeet is likely, but it's possible it's not, and even if it's not and Matt is a wolf, I find those who threw heavy/light sus more wolfy than those who defended him. Because I don't see wolves being likely to defend him after he said all that. So Matt could be either, and either way wolves would be in with those who threw sus.

As far as being hedgey, I'm lining out everyone I think is sus with my reasoning. And those who I think are less sus. And I'm like the only one with my opinion on this it seems. Do I specifically know what Matt is? No. Because I find either possibility likely. I have lined out multiple possibilities before about a specific person in both of my games, and called hedgey my last game. It is how I play
 
Wondalfy said:
Kinda tired of explaining this. I think a misyeet is likely, but it's possible it's not, and even if it's not and Matt is a wolf, I find those who threw heavy/light sus more wolfy than those who defended him. Because I don't see wolves being likely to defend him after he said all that. So Matt could be either, and either way wolves would be in with those who threw sus.
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I wholeheartedly disagree, it makes sense for us to question matt. It was a weird move, it's not surprising to suss them out.
I would find it more odd to defend someone when you in theory don't know their affiliation.

But that's just my opinion.
 
Wondalfy said:
Kinda tired of explaining this. I think a misyeet is likely, but it's possible it's not, and even if it's not and Matt is a wolf, I find those who threw heavy/light sus more wolfy than those who defended him. Because I don't see wolves being likely to defend him after he said all that. So Matt could be either, and either way wolves would be in with those who threw sus.

As far as being hedgey, I'm lining out everyone I think is sus with my reasoning. And those who I think are less sus. And I'm like the only one with my opinion on this it seems. Do I specifically know what Matt is? No. Because I find either possibility likely. I have lined out multiple possibilities before about a specific person in both of my games, and called hedgey my last game. It is how I play
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It just doesn’t make sense to me at all. It feels so defend-y while trying to also convey you’d be okay with him being yeeted.

So I’m gonna see what happens if I do this


Unyeet Clem
Yeet wonda
 
miranda920 said:
I wholeheartedly disagree, it makes sense for us to question matt. It was a weird move, it's not surprising to suss them out.
I would find it more odd to defend someone when you in theory don't know their affiliation.

But that's just my opinion.
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So, what do you think of the very few people who defended Matt in some way? It's about the perfect number to make a wolf pack. I see you voted for me. If wolves decided to defend Matt, either because he is also a wolf or because they wanted to look good for defending village, game is over. They've been found out, revealed themselves to the entire thread. Why would wolves do that?
 
samac said:
It just doesn’t make sense to me at all. It feels so defend-y while trying to also convey you’d be okay with him being yeeted.

So I’m gonna see what happens if I do this


Unyeet Clem
Yeet wonda
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Okay. I'm going to step away because honestly, I have done this every single game where I've made cases both for and against the same person within the same message. It is my play style, I've explained before I like to give multiple possibilities for a single person, see who likes what and who doesn't, and who ignores it. Theoretically, I hope to successfully do it as a wolf as well, but it being how I play is not indicative of anything. And I don't want to get frustrated for people thinking it's wolfy. So I will be off for several hours.
 
Wondalfy said:
So, what do you think of the very few people who defended Matt in some way? It's about the perfect number to make a wolf pack. I see you voted for me. If wolves decided to defend Matt, either because he is also a wolf or because they wanted to look good for defending village, game is over. They've been found out, revealed themselves to the entire thread. Why would wolves do that?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think anyone else has really defended Matt?

I think from what I can tell his self-vote was a very poorly received joke, which I agree. It isn't so much that he voted himself, but when pushed got defensive and backtracked.

I would find it strange if anyone truly defended Matt, which it seems like you did at first, because how do we know matt can be trusted? We don't. We haven't flipped anyone, the only noodles that know who each other is is the pack.

You said that you think people who have defended matt seem less sus to you, but that completely contradicts what you just said!
 
Like obviously jts different, but just the comfort level abd tone is totally different, its not a lock read but jts >rand mafia ime
 
mightyrunner7 said:
True, and I probably overstated my position. I was just trying to point out that after every post, evidence builds and confidence levels increase. Short of a rojo, the chance of finding a wolf call in the first few hours of a game are very low.

However, I've not played 48 hour cycles before. Given we are already on 8 pages of messages, I will conceed that interesting conclusions can be made before the first night
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Who did you find sus for pushing “too confidently” for the time?
 
I feel a little bad piling on Wonda but they are pinging on the sketchy meter. I don't think they're in a pack with Matt rn, but I won't close that door. I do think Wonda is a good player though.

I think Miranda's questioning has been pretty good on them so far. Leaning more village on her rn.
 
Clem J said:
Post in: 'Cthulhu & Friends: A Lovecraftian Tale - 9th Annual Noob WW Game' Cthulhu & Friends: A Lovecraftian Tale - 9th Annual Noob WW Game

This was their entry in the noob game, look how different it is
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Clem J said:
Like obviously jts different, but just the comfort level abd tone is totally different, its not a lock read but jts >rand mafia ime
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I'm at the lab atm irl and still haven't done my re-dive of the posts from yesterday, but I have been somewhat keeping up with the chats of today.

I think still haven't seen you give a great reason for voting me besides ">rand scum" (which I'm not quite sure what that means and I'm assuming it just means likely scum) but the reasoning here feels flawed in the sense that you are referring to my first post ever in a game of this format and using that as evidence of anything. I'd appreciate it if you looked at my later posts in that game and see if you still feel it is much different.
 
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