PaWWsta - The Game that WWrites Itself (Game Thread)

[WildZoo]

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I like it when you question people who village read you early. It gives me warm and fuzzies.

Well you get village points for not village reading me too quickly so

unyeet samac
yeet Clem

 

[WildZoo]

Gotta try harder to be sus, smh

 

[samac]

Well you get village points for not village reading me too quickly so

unyeet samac
yeet Clem

Gotta try harder to be sus, smh

NO BAD

 

[WildZoo]

NO BAD

My deepest apologies

Now I must reread everything I skimmed while I was chopping up newts

 

[matthirten13]

How is this AM different from the AM that zuri found frustrating last game? I feel like your response to AM is pretty much what happens when someone gets in her focus for the first time, especially early in the game.

My main concern is that AM pushed me, stopped, and didn't seem to try at all with anyone else. at the time of my post. And I stopped seeing the posts as villagey following confirmation that AM does this regardless of affiliation

 

[matthirten13]

Tell me more about this AM sus. She's a little high on my list right now but I'm curious about your concern. Is it just because she put you under the microscope

My main concern is that AM pushed me, stopped, and didn't seem to try at all with anyone else. at the time of my post. And I stopped seeing the posts as villagey following confirmation that AM does this regardless of affiliation

I got my vote out to show where my current thoughts were at the time.

 

[SARdoghandler]

What if I don't like it? Are you gonna yeet me SAR? 🥺

Laugh react good enough haha. No yotening tonight

 

[WildZoo]

Laugh react good enough haha. No yotening tonight

Welp I forgot I laugh reacted it, oops

 

[Wondalfy]

What has Matt done other than say he’s vote you that you’ve found to be village-y?

He hasn't. I don't think he is necessarily village-y. It's more along the lines of I don't like the logic behind others voting him for his self-vote, that's more sus to me than his actual self vote.

 

[supershorty]

No need to be ravilonely when we're all together - Day 1 Tagliatally

chic (1) - genny
AM (1) - matt
Veggie (2) - chic, SAR
matt (4) - Clem, Santy, samac, Veggie
genny ()
mighty (1) - Dina
Clem (1) - Dubz
Dina (1) - mighty
samac ()

@matthirten13, you are in the lead!
11/16 voting
Missing: @Animal Midwife, @miranda920, @mkg323, @Wondalfy, @Viscernable

Vote closes tomorrow at 12am? Mermaid Time/10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm Fantasyland (~24.75 hours).

 

[chicandtoughness]

(The heck is mermaid time)

 

[supershorty]

(The heck is mermaid time)

The time zone for magical mermaids, of course.

 

[Animal Midwife]

My main concern is that AM pushed me, stopped, and didn't seem to try at all with anyone else. at the time of my post. And I stopped seeing the posts as villagey following confirmation that AM does this regardless of affiliation

When did I stop pushing you? And it's a straight up lie to say I haven't questioned anyone else. I don't like this lying and am very close to voting you.

 

[Santygrass]

But for an actual explanation: I wanted to see if he would be awkward and hedgey about picking an opening vote (kinda) and make him give that info, for if he is wolf and flips. Opening votes from a wolf aren’t a huge source of info on packmates, but it’s still something.

Hmmming this. Think its seems like a reasonable enough explanation?
But also no conclusion or following on the train of thought + the own dismissal at the end of the possible info gathered from that makes me hmmm still in the sus.

Okay I see this was answered. Personally I don’t really see it as evidence against w/v though

Hmmm I dont know if I am explaining myself enough.
My point is mostly. W!Wondalfy / W!Matt ,>> Dont think its the case and both are unpaired.

W!Wondalfy / V!Matt > Didnt felt it like whiteknighty , mostly on a tonal level. Thats why I said I was munching over it and stuff. Like, if I reread Wonda posts on Matt, I think they come from a villager? Mostly because I just dig up pretty much the going at flawed logic arguments type of shield? .

Mostly re explaining because it could perfectly be W!Matt / V!Wonda interaction, and my analysis in the interactios are mostly clearing for Wonda atm.

 

[Santygrass]

Also I thought I had it quoted but @matthirten13 can you walk me through your progression on AM?

Like , you are phrasing things as if your progression was

> AM pushes you
> You think that is villagery because why a wolf would get so stuck on you
> People say that is normal for AM regardless of aff
> You now wolfread AM for that reason now.

If someone tells you something is NAI (Not alignment indicative) , why you flip a read on that something from village to scummy? Like, I dont get it.


AndI saw you asked Samac about the difference in Vis and AM questions, and I think its kinda evident AM was inquisitivre and pushing a specific topic to see if you were slipping up and if your wording added up imo. So while Vis felt kindof a random question,AM felt like trying to pick aparat your brain if it makes sense(?)

 

[matthirten13]

When did I stop pushing you? And it's a straight up lie to say I haven't questioned anyone else. I don't like this lying and am very close to voting you.

Ok, this is fair I had done not a great look at your posts separately. You did ask wondalfy a few questions. Probably a bit of bias on my part feeling like you were going against me harder than anyone else since it was me you were going against, and the stop pushing me was likely related to you just posting less. As opposed to me earlier feeling like I was constantly needing to respond to something from you.

Although even your questions to wondalfy at the time of my recap post/voting for you were related to me, it does fit the general trend of this chat where a lot of people are discussing my actions and people's responses to them.

Don't hold your vote if you think I am sus though. Play it on the table.

 

[Santygrass]

My main concern is that AM pushed me, stopped, and didn't seem to try at all with anyone else. at the time of my post. And I stopped seeing the posts as villagey following confirmation that AM does this regardless of affiliation

I just reread this post and I think my question is moot. I am very good at readingn't.


But oh well. I still think as rest of thread i saying you are getting hung up on something that is more playstyle indicative from AM here. Did you spectate last game ? The 3H one ? If so, do you remember something from AM play?

 

[matthirten13]

I just reread this post and I think my question is moot. I am very good at readingn't.


But oh well. I still think as rest of thread i saying you are getting hung up on something that is more playstyle indicative from AM here. Did you spectate last game ? The 3H one ? If so, do you remember something from AM play?

I was mostly spectating the tot chat and didn't really read much of the actual game besides some of the first day tbh. Idk what really happened tbh

 

[Santygrass]

Also, @WildZoo what do you expect of your vote on Clem? Like, you expect that it will make them magicalt post more or say something more relevant?

I'd expect that you know how they roll by now /?

 

[Animal Midwife]

The thing that bother me even more than invented reasoning to push on me though is that matt's done stuff only after someone say "I expected a villager to do x, y ,z" and then he does x, y, z. Like when people asked him why he unvoted and conceded without even questioning his voters then, hours later, questions his voters and paints them as suspicious.

 

[Santygrass]

I was mostly spectating the tot chat and didn't really read much of the actual game besides some of the first day tbh. Idk what really happened tbh

Oh its alr. It was mostly to see if it was your first time experiencing AM focus tbh.

Like, last game even tho I was the woof AM was obtuse and stubborn on some topics . So like, if you had spectated it you wouldn't be so taken aback by AM I think lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

Ok, this is fair I had done not a great look at your posts separately. You did ask wondalfy a few questions. Probably a bit of bias on my part feeling like you were going against me harder than anyone else since it was me you were going against, and the stop pushing me was likely related to you just posting less. As opposed to me earlier feeling like I was constantly needing to respond to something from you.

Although even your questions to wondalfy at the time of my recap post/voting for you were related to me, it does fit the general trend of this chat where a lot of people are discussing my actions and people's responses to them.

Don't hold your vote if you think I am sus though. Play it on the table.

You know you're allowed to talk to others while you're talking to me too, right? I've talked to mkg as well and I'd like to know where her head's at when she gets back.

Yeet matt

 

[Animal Midwife]

I was mostly spectating the tot chat and didn't really read much of the actual game besides some of the first day tbh. Idk what really happened tbh

I had a large portion of the D1 friction so I don't know how you missed that.

 

[WildZoo]

Also, @WildZoo what do you expect of your vote on Clem? Like, you expect that it will make them magicalt post more or say something more relevant?

I'd expect that you know how they roll by now /?

No, I don't expect Clem to react to a single vote much if at all

 

[matthirten13]

The thing that bother me even more than invented reasoning to push on me though is that matt's done stuff only after someone say "I expected a villager to do x, y ,z" and then he does x, y, z. Like when people asked him why he unvoted and conceded without even questioning his voters then, hours later, questions his voters and paints them as suspicious.

I decided to do what the posts suggested as I felt it was in the best interests to keep myself alive.


I did not intend to paint them as suspicious, I just wanted to know thoughts. I am pretty sure the two people that voted me initially were towards the bottom of my sus list.

 

[Santygrass]

Unyeet Matt
Yeet Vis

 

[matthirten13]

I had a large portion of the D1 friction so I don't know how you missed that.

I don't really know how to respond to this other than I just read some random messages mostly out of context and I don't know what happened that game really.

 

[Santygrass]

Unyeet Matt
Yeet Vis

For full transparency, I almost voted Dubz there but decided it was too dumb to do and now I am waiting and judging still like someone smart would do and simpli stating that I am hmmm-ing Dubz vote on Clem.


Like, the first time it felt like and empty kinda RVS-ish stuff and it was alright. Then they have a whole dance with Samac where they vote samac but then back at Clem so it feels more like a comfy vote to maintain status or just kee it there doing nothing than a Village Dubz interested in the game and doing something.

But I also think that if Dubz is villa they dont need pressure or my vote to obvtown so wowee

 

[Animal Midwife]

I decided to do what the posts suggested as I felt it was in the best interests to keep myself alive.

That's something every affiliation needs. Again, my problem is that these weren't innate thought processes and I have to wonder why.

I did not intend to paint them as suspicious, I just wanted to know thoughts. I am pretty sure the two people that voted me initially were towards the bottom of my sus list.

Could you remind me why Vis is sandwiched between them when your notes on her is "she didn't ask questions of value"?

 

[WildZoo]

For full transparency, I almost voted Dubz there but decided it was too dumb to do and now I am waiting and judging still like someone smart would do and simpli stating that I am hmmm-ing Dubz vote on Clem.


Like, the first time it felt like and empty kinda RVS-ish stuff and it was alright. Then they have a whole dance with Samac where they vote samac but then back at Clem so it feels more like a comfy vote to maintain status or just kee it there doing nothing than a Village Dubz interested in the game and doing something.

But I also think that if Dubz is villa they dont need pressure or my vote to obvtown so wowee

How boring, much more exciting if you actually vote for me. In any case, did I not say "what if matt/Clem pack" or something to that effect earlier? The samac stuff was fully joking, she was never sus. She just wishes she was so she could stop dying n1.

You are correct on the last bit. I plan to do more things tomorrow. Just wiped out today. Taking advantage of the long cycles lol

 

[Santygrass]

And maybe I should clarify that I am switching votes mostly because I dont think my vote is doing much in adding pressure and would be of more worth on another slot that I want to poke at. Vis fits that mental description.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't really know how to respond to this other than I just read some random messages mostly out of context and I don't know what happened that game really.

Okay. Can you explain what event this post is referring to then?

But I do recall from tot chat or the main game that someone was going off on a noob for not trying to do things day 1, despite all the vets doing it.

 

[Santygrass]

How boring, much more exciting if you actually vote for me. In any case, did I not say "what if matt/Clem pack" or something to that effect earlier? The samac stuff was fully joking, she was never sus. She just wishes she was so she could stop dying n1.

You are correct on the last bit. I plan to do more things tomorrow. Just wiped out today. Taking advantage of the long cycles lol

I mean, you said it but it still got the lazy vibe to it . Like, I dont trust Clem to be villa either. But the energy of the push doesnt exist, and as you said, its a vote that will probably do... Nothing. So yeh just feels like doing a no-vote without actually no voting if it makes sense

 

[WildZoo]

I mean, you said it but it still got the lazy vibe to it . Like, I dont trust Clem to be villa either. But the energy of the push doesnt exist, and as you said, its a vote that will probably do... Nothing. So yeh just feels like doing a no-vote without actually no voting if it makes sense

What do you do if you're suspicious of Clem then? Just not vote there because he's not going to react? Like I don't know what you expect me to do if I've got a ping there.

And no, I currently don't have much energy to spare, so that's a fair assessment of my general vibes right now.

 

[Viscernable]

I personally agree with samac on the issue. Yes busy, but still haven't done anything particularly villagey that I'm aware of.

Sorry, on what issue? I’m lost

 

[matthirten13]

That's something every affiliation needs. Again, my problem is that these weren't innate thought processes and I have to wonder why.

Could you remind me why Vis is sandwiched between them when your notes on her is "she didn't ask questions of value"?

The players on top of list are my had some sus on, under that is afks, then it is the I'm not sus but they chatted, and then at the bottom is leaning villager. I wanted to rank everyone but some of them were def pretty equal. Although vis asked questions that didn't yield a ton, I did not feel it was sus, so they went in the chatters who didn't seem sus group.

 

[WildZoo]

Sorry, on what issue? I’m lost

On the issue of whether I seem villagey

i.e. idk where genny's read is coming from, because I haven't done anything to earn a village read yet

 

[matthirten13]

Okay. Can you explain what event this post is referring to then?

I had no idea who said it tbh, I just vaguely recalled reading some posts about it. I'm guessing it was you given the context. I literally couldn't remember which chat it was in as the post suggests.

 

[Animal Midwife]

The players on top of list are my had some sus on, under that is afks, then it is the I'm not sus but they chatted, and then at the bottom is leaning villager. I wanted to rank everyone but some of them were def pretty equal. Although vis asked questions that didn't yield a ton, I did not feel it was sus, so they went in the chatters who didn't seem sus group.

Could you add some separation to the readslist so I can visually see these differences? It's difficult to gauge by looking at the associated reasoning.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I had no idea who said it tbh, I just vaguely recalled reading some posts about it. I'm guessing it was you given the context. I literally couldn't remember which chat it was in as the post suggests.

No, as I'm neither multiple vets nor am I a noob. Why did you give that as reasoning for your unvote if you don't even know what it's referring to?

 

[matthirten13]

My thoughts at the time of list @Animal Midwife

Spoiler: Most sus to least sus at time of list creation

Some sus
1. AM
2. Samac
3. wonda
4. chic
Some sus but only because passive
5. mkg
6. Dubz
mostly afk
7. mighty
8. genny
9. miranda
chatting but not sus
10. clem
11. vis
12. santy
13. SAR
possible village
14. veggie
15. dina

Edit: Originally kept the spoiler text for the initial post, but it says currently which is confusing, so edited spoiler

 

[Viscernable]

So while Vis felt kindof a random question

I get that I’m beating a dead horse and this isn’t productive, but it genuinely pisses me off that people are so certain my questioning, when someone looks like they’re trying to avoid making a decision/giving info, about the info that they would be trying to hide, is so stupid that I’m wolfy for it.

 

[matthirten13]

No, as I'm neither multiple vets nor am I a noob. Why did you give that as reasoning for your unvote if you don't even know what it's referring to?

All I had was the recollection of someone saying that, it was certainly enough to change my vote, as my vote was just for fun and it was no longer fun for me at that point to keep the vote on myself.

 

[Viscernable]

Also, @WildZoo what do you expect of your vote on Clem? Like, you expect that it will make them magicalt post more or say something more relevant?

I'd expect that you know how they roll by now /?

Why do you assume it’s just a pressure vote?

 

[genny]

chatting but not sus
10. clem

i'm sorry, what? are we reading the same game? clem was chatting?

 

[Animal Midwife]

My thoughts at the time of list @Animal Midwife

Spoiler: Most sus to least sus at time of list creation

Some sus
1. AM
2. Samac
3. wonda
4. chic
Some sus but only because passive
5. mkg
6. Dubz
mostly afk
7. mighty
8. genny
9. miranda
chatting but not sus
10. clem
11. vis
12. santy
13. SAR
possible village
14. veggie
15. dina

Edit: Originally kept the spoiler text for the initial post, but it says currently which is confusing, so edited spoiler

Okay I'm still really confused by this collection but at least I have the categories. Like I definitely wouldn't call Clem "chatting" at the bare minimum.

 

[Santygrass]

What do you do if you're suspicious of Clem then? Just not vote there because he's not going to react? Like I don't know what you expect me to do if I've got a ping there.

And no, I currently don't have much energy to spare, so that's a fair assessment of my general vibes right now.

You can vote there and kinda campaign about it so it gets more... Attention. I think that even tho it is hard for a vote to get Clem attention, just kinda nakedly voting there is what makes me lean on it being mostly an... Uninterested sortof vote.

Like, I can maybe naked vote Vis and probably Vis will poke at me or mention it and form some sort of interaction. Clem will not. So if I vote Clem for it yo be productive I would try to have an argument that at least interest other players or do it while Clem is already catching heat for something else? That sort of thing.

 

[Santygrass]

Why do you assume it’s just a pressure vote?

Why would I assume otherwise?

 

[Santygrass]

Why would I assume otherwise?

Maybe it is preemptive semantics.

But someone doing a pressure vote isnt exclusive with that person sussing them. You make pressure votes on people you want to solve / know more of, after all

 

[WildZoo]

You can vote there and kinda campaign about it so it gets more... Attention. I think that even tho it is hard for a vote to get Clem attention, just kinda nakedly voting there is what makes me lean on it being mostly an... Uninterested sortof vote.

Like, I can maybe naked vote Vis and probably Vis will poke at me or mention it and form some sort of interaction. Clem will not. So if I vote Clem for it yo be productive I would try to have an argument that at least interest other players or do it while Clem is already catching heat for something else? That sort of thing.

I'll take this under advisement