PaWWsta - The Game that WWrites Itself (Game Thread)

[SportPonies]

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Why you feel that way?

She’s said a couple things and I can’t decide if it’s my normal dubz paranoia or if she’s doing the thing she does when she’s a wolf, so I need to dive deeper

 

[SportPonies]

How about people with the tiny isos instead then?

No it wasn’t the length of the iso, it was the iso thing in general. I need to finish my charts first

 

[SportPonies]

Ok bye I’m grounding myself until the charts are done

 

[WildZoo]

She’s said a couple things and I can’t decide if it’s my normal dubz paranoia or if she’s doing the thing she does when she’s a wolf, so I need to dive deeper

samac already said she found a village tell for me, what does it mean if I do a wolf tell this game too

 

[Santygrass]

samac already said she found a village tell for me, what does it mean if I do a wolf tell this game too

That you are a phasing wolf hmmyes

 

[WildZoo]

That you are a phasing wolf hmmyes

If I had a nickel for every time I've been a phasing wolf...

I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

 

[supershorty]

I'm afraid to think of how hard Mommy would whip me if I put a phasing wolf in a game I advertised as "more on the basics side of things."

although I did say that in comparison to FE3H and that game was very complex, so I can see an argument that a phasing wolf is still more on the basics side of things than that

sounds more like an argument Zenge would make than I would, though.

 

[Santygrass]

I'm afraid to think of how hard Mommy would whip me if I put a phasing wolf in a game I advertised as "more on the basics side of things."

although I did say that in comparison to FE3H and that game was very complex, so I can see an argument that a phasing wolf is still more on the basics side of things than that

sounds more like an argument Zenge would make than I would, though.

Its perfect to basicamly teach how someone would play a game as villager in one phase and then as a wolf in the next one.

Hire me for more bad WW tips

 

[SportPonies]

I'm afraid to think of how hard Mommy would whip me if I put a phasing wolf in a game I advertised as "more on the basics side of things."

although I did say that in comparison to FE3H and that game was very complex, so I can see an argument that a phasing wolf is still more on the basics side of things than that

sounds more like an argument Zenge would make than I would, though.

Literally anything is basic compared to FE, a phasing wolf still counts as basic this time 😂

*squints*

Which means I won’t put anything past you

 

[WildZoo]

Its perfect to basicamly teach how someone would play a game as villager in one phase and then as a wolf in the next one.

Hire me for more bad WW tips

Or you could do what I did, play like a wolf the whole time but win as a villager anyway

 

[supershorty]

Its perfect to basicamly teach how someone would play a game as villager in one phase and then as a wolf in the next one.

Hire me for more bad WW tips

god, imagine you and @Lawpy modding together...

 

[supershorty]

Literally anything is basic compared to FE, a phasing wolf still counts as basic this time 😂

*squints*

Which means I won’t put anything past you

Sporty pls I don't like being spanked, I'm not going to seek it out 🥺

 

[SportPonies]

Oh also

Unyeet samac reluctantly
Yeet I think Wonda is my self prez?

Yeets self out of thread

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh also

Unyeet samac reluctantly
Yeet I think Wonda is my self prez?

Yeets self out of thread

 

[mightyrunner7]

#Manator mode start#
For 1. I think your opinion always is important and will have a sort of uniqueness tbh. Even if its a mix of things already said by other people.
So like, there isnt a need to say things that are new, focus on sharing your perspective and what feel with more weight on your mind.
#Manator mode end#

2. Self-pres is NAI. Is the correct move regardless of aff. And doing things like voting your defender, or voting for someone you've been defending (tho wonda says they arent defending them for example, so thats stuff you should talk about! ) Are valid.

And like, do you think the votes on the Clem wagon are damning if both Matt and Wondalfy are village? In that scenario the wolves had like 3 wagons to choose from, and had no one really in danger, so they didnt care much, right.
Clem wagon votes I think could be more sus if one in Wonda/Matt is actually a wolf, because then there would be more motivation to vote Clem . Those type of stuff feels a little like too 'Elephant in the room' to me, and missing them while doing an analysis and being okay with giving the less importance in an analysis in two of the key slots to analyze is what weirded me . (Weirds ig is a nice way to say its the reason on why I think your analysis comes off more as wolfy agenda to me ehe)

*Thanks for the manator advice, it's pretty helpful*

Regarding elephant in the room, you are correct, if all three of the leaders were village, then my model fundamentally falls apart. There would be no motivation for a wolf to be on the winner since they couldn't really care which villager gets yeeted. I should have stated that as a key assumption.

Regarding self preservation being NAI, I agree. That's why I've been arguing that my framework could not really analyze Wonda and Matt (sporty) because the NAI action overwhelms any alignment conclusions

 

[WildZoo]

View attachment 365766

I don't think any image has ever captured the depths of AM's displeasure so well before

 

[miranda920]

Good evening friends! I'm exhausted from this long day, but I am here and ready to be engaged.

I skimmed through the posts since last night and I am going to stick to my guns.

 

[supershorty]

Pasta that sticks to everything is called clinguine - Day 2 Tagliatally

genny (1) - mighty
matt --> Sporty (4) - genny, Vis, Samac, Santy
Dubz ()
Veggie (2) - Dubz, chic
mighty ()
mkg (1) - AM
samac ()
miranda (1) - Wondalfy
Wondalfy (4) - miranda, Veggie, Dina, Sporty

13/14 voting
@SportPonies and @Wondalfy, you are [narrowly] in the lead!
A tie!
Missing: @mkg323

Vote closes today, 2/8 at 10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm FST (~2.25 hours)

 

[Santygrass]

@mightyrunner7 where would you vote if you had to break the tie rn?

 

[miranda920]

A wolf literally voted zuri though. And wolves were defending and shading different people not as a monolith. Like Santy defending fluff while Miranda and Zenge shaded her on D1, for instance.

Heck, Santy shaded me multiple times last game lol

 

[Santygrass]

Heck, Santy shaded me multiple times last game lol

😇

 

[samac]

A wolf literally voted zuri though. And wolves were defending and shading different people not as a monolith. Like Santy defending fluff while Miranda and Zenge shaded her on D1, for instance.

Where did I say no strategy was being used? Hint: I didn't. The wolves are a team, not a monolith who have to have identical reads and votes.

I watched the noob game. They often stacked to save partners. They even powerwolfed. A lot did openly suspicious things and got away with it to win the entire game. So no, still no evidence of this scenario you're describing.

Tell me right here, what evidence you have that wolves could not have both shaded and defended matt?

Also, are you familiar with WIFOM?

AM did you gain anything with all this back and forth with wonda?

Something about this post spooks me

Ooooh what?

You can still do it in your role PM!

You can’t quote which is hard. That’s why I had links in my post I copied from my role PM

 

[samac]

Tbh I do think you’re likely a wolf but I want to give you at least some time after subbing in.

WAIT THEN WHY DID I SPOOK YOU? Was it a good haha boo spook or something?

 

[samac]

Well, good thing Tone hasn’t been seen in a decade.

I hope to see a read or 2 eventually damn

 

[samac]

I feel like every time he brings you up he's flipped his read... its just a whole lot of bleh for me.

Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz, no, of course not I'm wolfing with samac duhhhh

freshly cooked reads list
hand made noods: dubz, samac
fresh pot o' spaget: Miranda, AM
uncooked: genny, dina, vis, chic
left overs: santy, mighty
suspicious-length-of-time left overs: Veggie, matt/sporty, wonda

edit: bc i forgot chic sorry, shoulda looked at a roster

Who do you think is compatible in your sus pile?

 

[WildZoo]

WAIT i missed mkg's post

 

[samac]

samac already said she found a village tell for me, what does it mean if I do a wolf tell this game too

Do you have a wolf tell too?
I get to use the village tell one time to catch you wolfing then I’ll tell you, scouts honor.

 

[samac]

If I had a nickel for every time I've been a phasing wolf...

I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?

Dont **** with me like that lol

 

[WildZoo]

Do you have a wolf tell too?

Not one that I'm aware of but Sporty said there's a thing I do when I'm wolfing

 

[samac]

*Thanks for the manator advice, it's pretty helpful*

Regarding elephant in the room, you are correct, if all three of the leaders were village, then my model fundamentally falls apart. There would be no motivation for a wolf to be on the winner since they couldn't really care which villager gets yeeted. I should have stated that as a key assumption.

Regarding self preservation being NAI, I agree. That's why I've been arguing that my framework could not really analyze Wonda and Matt (sporty) because the NAI action overwhelms any alignment conclusions

If you assume one of the other wagons is wolf why would you ignore them as options then?

 

[samac]

@mkg323 gonna put a vote down bud

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz Dubz, no, of course not I'm wolfing with samac duhhhh

Spoiler

 

[samac]

Spoiler

Lmao
My brain didn’t even register my own name in that post I honed into the reads list
Too bad it’s actually me and you, she just wants to fit in

 

[mkg323]

Who do you think is compatible in your sus pile?

I dont think my bottom 3 are super compatible so I'll worry about that once we flip a wolf. I'd have to take time to iso some peeps in my other groups to see whos compatible its not really something I actively take notes on

 

[mkg323]

Lmao
My brain didn’t even register my own name in that post I honed into the reads list
Too bad it’s actually me and you, she just wants to fit in

well of course, I gotta keep my pack at the top!

 

[mkg323]

@mkg323 gonna put a vote down bud

but the tie... its so pretty

 

[Animal Midwife]

I dont think my bottom 3 are super compatible so I'll worry about that once we flip a wolf. I'd have to take time to iso some peeps in my other groups to see whos compatible its not really something I actively take notes on

tbh incompatibility seems more serious than compatibility

It means you have villagers in your immediate POE

 

[samac]

but the tie... its so pretty

VOTE

 

[mkg323]

also tangent: I know someone asked why I like ties (or maybe I'm just making that up) so heres a little chit-chat about why I like ties. Ties are a gamble, but if theres two people people want to yeet, make a tie, and theres a chance you can yeet them both. That sounds pretty good to me! whats the worst that could happen? well I guess no one dying is bad, i mean that benefitted me once in last years noob game, so just maybe dont do them at the end of the game when things are high stakes. honestly though, odds are someones gonna die, and I fear no mod so if it backfires and the person who made a tie dies (me) its whatever. it keeps things spicy, and as a frequently wolf read person it doesnt really impact village, like I'd just get misyeeted later so might as well go out trying to murder two other people that are sus. also it makes everyone huffy on thread which I enjoy

 

[Zenge142]

whats the worst that could happen

 

[supershorty]

whats the worst that could happen?

 

[supershorty]

GOD DAMN IT ZENGE

 

[mkg323]

tbh incompatibility seems more serious than compatibility

It means you have villagers in your immediate POE

well veggie and wonda are currently voting for each other idk what you want me to do about it, theyre both sketch. i guess wonda could be compatible with matt/sporty

 

[samac]

well veggie and wonda are currently voting for each other idk what you want me to do about it, theyre both sketch. i guess wonda could be compatible with matt/sporty

Do you think veggie and Matt/sporty could be compatible?

 

[Animal Midwife]

well veggie and wonda are currently voting for each other idk what you want me to do about it, theyre both sketch. i guess wonda could be compatible with matt/sporty

They're not voting each other. What are you talking about?

 

[mkg323]

They're not voting each other. What are you talking about?

whoops! clearly I dont know what I'm talking about. i guess they could be compatible then

 

[mkg323]

yeet veggie

 

[Animal Midwife]

whoops! clearly I dont know what I'm talking about. i guess they could be compatible then

How much of today have you read?

 

[VeggieTrex]

I can hang around on thread for a little bit. I'm caught up and will try to make an deeper post before close, but brain has closed up shop for the day so we'll see how that goes.

 

[mkg323]

How much of today have you read?

i've read all of it, but clearly I haven't retained all of it