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Huh. I don't think I've ever seen mk boil over about AM pushing her before, especially when she's not voting for her right now.
She's busy howling
I was sound asleep after a big day of job interview where they basically offered to fire their current dingus psychiatrist if he wouldn’t work with me lolWhere are all our fellow noodles?!
I’ll bus if I have to with a mechanically outted partner, not on D2 on a noob.Sdn people , are Mkg/samac a never bus kindof player or no?
This. Looking back at other games wolf!Dubz powerwolfs but doesn’t try to get people on the yeet that hard from what I could find.Sporty pls. Village!Dubz confidently leads misyeets D1 all the time.
Oh no.Think I'll just
Yeet Dinashadow
And think more about it tomorrow.
Just did a quick glance at Dina/Vis ISOs since I feel are the players I felt the most vague (specially Dina, Vis I had some stuff but still conflicting) . I have a dumb reason to trust Vis kindof. Feels stupid enough as to not share it.
Reading Dina's post I think the way they refer to Veggie is like someone who doesn't want to look bad when they flip, but also making sure to not push them . Like... 'Oh yeah I'm sussing Veggie. Anyways let's get back onto wonda guys' sort of deal? Maybe attention shifting is the word I'm looking for.
Santy was on a wolf?I never said that the only thing you've done is push me, idk where you're getting that from but I dont appreciate you changing the context of our argument yesterday. I know you said that I wasn't wolf hunting in one post, after you yeeted me. I was fine with that. however yesterday, when i asked about it, for CLARIFICATION, you said there was way more discussion on your part than just that one post, and then refused to quote it or explain further.
here, I read the thread & and pulled the quotes so you can stop bull ****ting me about this and we stop talking in circles.
Starting with your response to Mighty asking about your read on me:
"quite a bit today" implies more than one ****ing sentence FYI
maybe dont exaggerate next time, or at least admit to it when someone asks?
I'm referencing the "she's not wolf hunting" post here
so your saying theres more than that... got it... but today you're not. Maybe you should take notes to keep up with your BS.
Oh, and Santy wasn't on my at EOD, he was voting for a legitimate wagon, you know, on a wolf?
AM at this point just stop trying to read me. if you are actually village, rely on other villager's reads of me, because the last thing I want to do is waste my friday thunderdoming with you, where you act intentionally obtuse about what I am saying, and talk in circles. actually you know what **** that, I refuse to. enjoy the ignore function for the rest of this game
Because they want to place a vote D1 and look villagey but feel guilty
Because they want to seem joking and carefree when they're really terrified on the inside
Because they're pulling a WIFOM and hope people will not expect a wolf to do it
Should I go on?
My joke on mighty is partially a joke (because I'm his irl partner) and I like to poke him, but also wanted to pressure him a bit (because I was also his manator) and was frustrated by his early game lack of participation in the noob game
Overall deep dives into reflecting on 3ps and distracting and wolfy. I've also found some noobs get really caught up in their existence despite their affiliation, so yeah veggie's comment about that was a head-scratcher
I guess my thoughts right now are this -
I'm most interested in wonda or matt rn. I have to go look back at clem because I haven't really developed an opinion yet. Veggie's 3p comment gave me an initial knee-jerk reaction but less interested, but would like to see some more from them.
samac and AM feel pretty good overall, I'm also agreeing with a lot of stuff dubz has said, so I guess I'm ok with her rn too. I've liked miranda's recent posts and SAR's as well despite our differing opinions about matt
okay the only thing I'm seeing about clem is they unvoted veggie to naked vote matt and it was assumed it was because of the self-vote? But clem came back and said they didn't even realize that it was a self-vote and it was because of Matt's opening? Which I'm not sure what to read from just that tbh
I am seeing a reasoning why dubz voted clem, but @Wondalfy how does your read on clem change knowing that they didn't vote matt because of matt's self-vote?
Agreed
Agree veggie's posts are very vague and I'm not really seeing continuity of thoughts. Has she wolfed yet? I can't really remember what her posts were like in the noob game either
Okay so I've been pretty busy today but have some thoughts on Wonda. I've also not saved properly a couple times so I'm rewriting for a third time. First their thread entrance was odd.
That wasn't how Matt entered the noob game, and set off a few alarm bells for me. In general it seems self-votes are a little unusual (correct me if I'm wrong here) so reading it as a joke seems like a bit of a jump.
The bias is interesting here, because I don't know if I would implicitly trust my friends in a game like this. It feels naive at best. It would be easier to trust a 'joke vote' if you were in a pack together.
There's a lot of defending against misyeets but not trying to find the right yeet. Misyeets suck, but if you're not trying to hunt wolves then its easier for them. On that note...
This isn't as much thought into avoiding an actual misyeet, as we get on the Matt situation. I would expect a little more sureness from someone trying to avoid misyeets at all cost. Maybe Wonda was feeling pressured to make a choice, but the timing is curious to me.
This feels a bit like setting up the vote for Miranda, which happened later in the day and seemed to hinge on Miranda linking Wonda to SAR. Dina also asked some follow up questions in the thread, but Wonda only went after Miranda. I still think Wonda is high on my list of wolves, but I want to sit with my thoughts for a little longer before I vote.
Here's where I'm at right now
Wonda
Sport/Matt
Mighty
Mkg
Dina
Chic
Samac
Vis
Santy
Dubz
genny
AM
Miranda
I'm feeling okay with this so far.
I'm stuck whether I want to vote matt/sporty or wonda. Originally I was going to vote matt this cycle, but I have mixed feelings about voting a recent sub in
And I'm not feeling any differently about wonda and her logic after her posts this cycle, but not sure how I feel voting with veggie who is in my POE right now
For now I think I'm going to
vote wonda
wonda, sporty/matt, veggie, mkg, maybe +/- mighty, but I feel very hedgey about him to completely throw him in the POE
Mkg's reads list was also a bit confounding unless she threw all her packmates in the sus pile, she's not the most compatible with the rest of my POE tbh
Matt's self yeet to unyeet was interesting. The most of the village phrase makes me curious how he knows that. Maybe he's 3p?
Tbh I have mostly been reading your quotes and should focus on the rest of the chat a bit more, I'll read through it again in a sec. I've just been trying to keep up with people calling me out before I can respond to the last one.
I think veggies statement that wolves know village is incredibly odd but based on them being a noob, makes sense, and I think it was the truth, which means they would not be wolf. This next one doesn't really help the game, but I am reading you as village/neutral because I think it'd be an incredibly dumb move to focus me this hard if you knew I wasn't wolf.
I liked Dubz callout of Veggie jumping to the conclusion that I am 3p rather than wolf, if they found my "the village" post suspicious.
Veggie responded that they thought wolves know the villagers. I have played the noob game here, sc2 maf, and town of salem, in all of them, the mafia/wolves do not know the town/village.
If I was veggie in this situation AND I was a wolf, I would have never thought of this as a defense even, as it seems too outlandish. Therefore, I am guessing it was the truth. This would imply veggie does not know how wolves work, and is not a wolf.
Yeet Matt
Only one Ive gotten vives from so far.
Current thoughts/susses (might be a couple posts behind cuz writing this/thinking)
Current thoughts:
Wonda defense of me slightly sus
Possible Samac/AM wolf combo because Samac did not call out any of AMs questioning of me, some of which felt irrelevant, but Samac did call out vis.
I still don't understand clem's vote on me fully but doesn't seem super sus to me currently. Would still like more info.
Veggie's assumption of me as 3p was sus but the wolves-know-villagers train of thought seemed okay and veggie is noob, so bit of a wash for me.
Chic's only post of substance was on the veggie thing, and I think seeing it another way is fair. Perhaps an easy vote to hide behind later.
Genny left a yeet vote and nothing else
Dinashadow's posts seem ok. I think unvoting myself is a fair reason to sus me after reading what has been said. Dubz had same thoughts about this. Samac also commented about flipping.
Mighty nothing of value other than retaliatory vote
Dubz playing somewhat passively I feel and idk if that is normal playstyle, not trying to push me too hard when I'm already in hot water (got one in), or wolf signifying. I tend to think of passiveness as wolf.
SAR only has a couple posts that feel focused on the game and tbh I don't think I'm fully comprehending all the mechanics talk.
I think santy's reason for voting me to see reaction was fair. Once again same thing as with samac, I don't understand why flack for vis post but not any of AMs
mkg passive (re: what I said about Dubz)
Vis I do agree had some questions that would not really result in value.
AM idk anymore, but the others not calling out some of AMs more weird questions bothers me. Also a lack of AM calling out others seems weird to me. If it was for info gathering and not to strictly put on pressure, I feel like others warranted some questions as well once the assault on me was done.1. AM
2. Samac
3. wonda
4. chic
5. mkg
6. Dubz
7. mighty
8. genny
9. miranda
10. clem
11. vis
12. santy
13. SAR
14. veggie
15. dina
After re reading I'm not sure I was making much sense. My thoughts when posting this was that veggie's initial sus of me was as 3P because of wolves knowing the village.
However after thinking further, the change into thinking I'm wolf now is consistent with the updated knowledge about wolves not necessarily knowing all village.
My thoughts at the time of list @Animal Midwife
Some sus
1. AM
2. Samac
3. wonda
4. chic
Some sus but only because passive
5. mkg
6. Dubz
mostly afk
7. mighty
8. genny
9. miranda
chatting but not sus
10. clem
11. vis
12. santy
13. SAR
possible village
14. veggie
15. dina
Edit: Originally kept the spoiler text for the initial post, but it says currently which is confusing, so edited spoiler
I feel a little bad piling on Wonda but they are pinging on the sketchy meter. I don't think they're in a pack with Matt rn, but I won't close that door. I do think Wonda is a good player though.
I think Miranda's questioning has been pretty good on them so far. Leaning more village on her rn.
They're different types of sketchy to me. Matt was more obvious and intriguing, where as Wonda has been a little more forward than in past games. Wonda has also been a little defensive when questioned but that's probably NAI.
I'm thinking Wonda is the most wolf. Mighty may also be wolf. I don't think Wonda and Matt are in a pack together, which is why I don't necessarily think Matt is a wolf. I don't want to reboil old water on Matt, but Matt is sus to me as well.
unyeet Matt
Yeet Wonda
That is a great question that I am not entirely sure of because I don't trust any of my reads. But Tbh that whole veggie thing I explained about how I never would have thought of using the reasoning "wolves know all the villagers" has me basically ignoring everything veggie has done otherwise because I put them firmly in village land then. Obvi strong evidence would change that, but haven't seen strong evidence against veggie
Hmm perhaps I should read veggie's quotes more if y'all are thinking they're sus because I've basically been ignoring. 🤔
Okay so I've been pretty busy today but have some thoughts on Wonda. I've also not saved properly a couple times so I'm rewriting for a third time. First their thread entrance was odd.
That wasn't how Matt entered the noob game, and set off a few alarm bells for me. In general it seems self-votes are a little unusual (correct me if I'm wrong here) so reading it as a joke seems like a bit of a jump.
The bias is interesting here, because I don't know if I would implicitly trust my friends in a game like this. It feels naive at best. It would be easier to trust a 'joke vote' if you were in a pack together.
There's a lot of defending against misyeets but not trying to find the right yeet. Misyeets suck, but if you're not trying to hunt wolves then its easier for them. On that note...
This isn't as much thought into avoiding an actual misyeet, as we get on the Matt situation. I would expect a little more sureness from someone trying to avoid misyeets at all cost. Maybe Wonda was feeling pressured to make a choice, but the timing is curious to me.
This feels a bit like setting up the vote for Miranda, which happened later in the day and seemed to hinge on Miranda linking Wonda to SAR. Dina also asked some follow up questions in the thread, but Wonda only went after Miranda. I still think Wonda is high on my list of wolves, but I want to sit with my thoughts for a little longer before I vote.
A big one is that it's been pretty quiet. That could be a weekday thing, but it is still a bit unusual. I want to put Miranda in village but I want to see a little more first. I also want to see if the vibe changes with Sport from Matt. That would make me reconsider having them in the SusZone. It's harder for me with the more experienced players, so I'll try to have someone tomorrow morning ish.
I still don't understand why you find me suspicious.I kind of want to yeet AM as well as Dina which is why it’s awkward that AM is on Dina.
I’m very very tired cuz I stayed up way too late reading.
I just think the way you’ve responded to some dubz questioning seems unusualI still don't understand why you find me suspicious.
In what way?I just think the way you’ve responded to some dubz questioning seems unusual
Things are gluten good. I think AM is just doing her thing. Going through her cross-examination for the first time is intense.
Which ones?
Honestly this game has been way more chill than the last two and that's been super nice tbh.
I think AM, Dubz, and SAR have been providing some good thoughts and questions.
Miranda made a pretty late entrance and has a good cover, but I'd still like to see some more from her.
Clem has been quite but that seems normal, still not sure what to do there.
I feel like chic is always a good player even though she's got a vote on me rn.
I probably have more thoughts, but I have a meeting with one of my advisors coming up in a few and I should probably get ready for that.
She played identically last game. The only way I came to a read on her was due to the specific circumstances surrounding her wagon.
Sporty, mighty, +/- veggie.
Wonda is the more interesting vote or veggie?
They're not voting each other. What are you talking about?
I'm sorry, I think I was wrong about you... I didn't really have a great read on Veggie and honestly was pretty shocked at the flip. Now that Veggie has flipped wolf, my suspicion of you is pretty much gonepersonally I think dina/AM/santy are the most sus. I don't really have the time or energy to explain much bc I have an exam tomorrow that I have pushed off studying for lmao
miranda still has sus imo but not quite as much due to throwing some unnecessary sus at veggie (although I searched quite a bit last night and apparently literally everyone in the game has thrown shade at veggie at some point, directly or indirectly, so...that was not as helpful as I was expecting). maybe I'm a bit in my feels about this one though still
then genny but less so than the others
I'll tone it down, sorry!I do think that Miranda's blatant taunting of Wonda is wolfy as heck. But my jimmies might also be getting rustled because it's getting to the level of snark I don't like.
We're only 7 pages in and I feel overwhelmed, but here we go...
So given that I was sus about mightyrunner early in our noob game (while he didn't originally start as a wolf, he became a wolf) I am naturally cautious of them. Especially because they are very good at expressing opinions that seem neutral. I won't go down this route now, because if they are village in this game, they will be a great asset in sleuthing out wolves.
As a noob wolf in the previous game, this tracks. Ultimately my sussing of Fluff for being 3p eventually led me to get outed as a wolf. Chic pretty much nails it in this summary. So this definitely makes me a little more concerned about Veggie, but again more of a yellow/orange flag rather than an immediate red.
Maybe veggie and matt are in a pack together? 👀
Stay tuned for my deep dive on Matt, because oh boy... I have thoughts now
Honestly this game has been way more chill than the last two and that's been super nice tbh.
I think AM, Dubz, and SAR have been providing some good thoughts and questions.
Miranda made a pretty late entrance and has a good cover, but I'd still like to see some more from her.
Clem has been quite but that seems normal, still not sure what to do there.
I feel like chic is always a good player even though she's got a vote on me rn.
I probably have more thoughts, but I have a meeting with one of my advisors coming up in a few and I should probably get ready for that.
I feel a little bad piling on Wonda but they are pinging on the sketchy meter. I don't think they're in a pack with Matt rn, but I won't close that door. I do think Wonda is a good player though.
I think Miranda's questioning has been pretty good on them so far. Leaning more village on her rn.
I don't have well developed thoughts because I just caught up on what I missed. I think Wonda being resistant to voting Miranda despite having a full write up interesting. I think there are a couple of points I like (feeling a little like a wagon, clarified a point from D1). It moves the needle for me a little but not much right now.
Okay so I've been pretty busy today but have some thoughts on Wonda. I've also not saved properly a couple times so I'm rewriting for a third time. First their thread entrance was odd.
That wasn't how Matt entered the noob game, and set off a few alarm bells for me. In general it seems self-votes are a little unusual (correct me if I'm wrong here) so reading it as a joke seems like a bit of a jump.
The bias is interesting here, because I don't know if I would implicitly trust my friends in a game like this. It feels naive at best. It would be easier to trust a 'joke vote' if you were in a pack together.
There's a lot of defending against misyeets but not trying to find the right yeet. Misyeets suck, but if you're not trying to hunt wolves then its easier for them. On that note...
This isn't as much thought into avoiding an actual misyeet, as we get on the Matt situation. I would expect a little more sureness from someone trying to avoid misyeets at all cost. Maybe Wonda was feeling pressured to make a choice, but the timing is curious to me.
This feels a bit like setting up the vote for Miranda, which happened later in the day and seemed to hinge on Miranda linking Wonda to SAR. Dina also asked some follow up questions in the thread, but Wonda only went after Miranda. I still think Wonda is high on my list of wolves, but I want to sit with my thoughts for a little longer before I vote.
A big one is that it's been pretty quiet. That could be a weekday thing, but it is still a bit unusual. I want to put Miranda in village but I want to see a little more first. I also want to see if the vibe changes with Sport from Matt. That would make me reconsider having them in the SusZone. It's harder for me with the more experienced players, so I'll try to have someone tomorrow morning ish.
This is it with veggie.I FORGOT THE GAME but I’m okay with veggie yeet so okay
It's because I'm "dead" probablyThread seems slow today…..
Why?yeet miranda
we can't all vote dinaWhy?
You think Dina is a wolf?we can't all vote dina
i think there's an above-average chance.You think Dina is a wolf?
Is Miranda the only one you see compatible with her?i think there's an above-average chance.
no, mighty would work tooIs Miranda the only one you see compatible with her?
Not Vis or mkg?no, mighty would work too
I think I’m more okay with this now than I was yesterday.yeet Vis
Ironically, these reads seem like a jump to me. It was sus and unusual to self-vote, but it was also obviously a joke. For the second part, I don’t see what “it wouldn’t be weird to me for a friend to joke around with me putting a snap joke vote on me” has to do with “I trust my friends aren’t wolves”?
I’m not totally clear on your reasoning here. What do you mean by setting up the vote on miranda? She’s openly suspecting miranda in this post, not sneakily setting up something for someone else to suspect her on. Is her “setting up the vote on miranda” sus to you? Why? How do you feel about Dina’s follow-up questions/why do you mention them here?
mkg over vis, but they're not my priority today.Not Vis or mkg?
Welp I’m apparently an idiot.the reason I found vis less sus than the others I've listed were because of these two posts:
If a veggie and vis were wolves together, these seemed a bit unnecessary to point out against veggie, especially since no one else brought them up, and veggie was one vote away from being tied for the lead. I get a wolf may say say slightly sus things about a partner over the course of a game to seem less sus if the partner dies, but this seemed a bit more than that imo
How do you feel about Miranda's tone being different in this game than last game?mkg over vis, but they're not my priority today.
there I fixed itThe Battle of Spaghettisburg - Day 3 Tagliatally
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Dina (3) - Santy, AM, Sporty
miranda (1) - genny
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@Dinashadow, you are in the lead!
4/11 voting
Missing: @Dinashadow, @miranda920, @mightyrunner7, @mkg323, @Wondalfy, @Viscernable, @samac
Vote closes tomorrow, 2/11, at 10pm EST/9pm CST/8pm MST/7pm FST (~26 hours).
How do you feel about Miranda's tone being different in this game than last game?
Alright. I just thought you noticed it too after playing the last game.
i don't put much stock in tone reads that i didn't make
Idk just tone. Mostly the repeating of “It’s going to take an act of god to convince me that that’s not a wolf” sounded like the post was in the middle of being revised more than I would expect a post like that to need revision from a village standpointOoooh what?
Oooo this ain’t the mod to try that withalso tangent: I know someone asked why I like ties (or maybe I'm just making that up) so heres a little chit-chat about why I like ties. Ties are a gamble, but if theres two people people want to yeet, make a tie, and theres a chance you can yeet them both. That sounds pretty good to me! whats the worst that could happen? well I guess no one dying is bad, i mean that benefitted me once in last years noob game, so just maybe dont do them at the end of the game when things are high stakes. honestly though, odds are someones gonna die, and I fear no mod so if it backfires and the person who made a tie dies (me) its whatever. it keeps things spicy, and as a frequently wolf read person it doesnt really impact village, like I'd just get misyeeted later so might as well go out trying to murder two other people that are sus. also it makes everyone huffy on thread which I enjoy![]()
Oooo nice look for mightySorry, althought im leaning sus on both of them, this actually feels so much better than either wonda or Sporty:
unyeet genny yeet veggie @supershorty
The only way I see veggie and mighty together is if sporty is also a wolf (ie. when it looked like Sporty would likely be yeeted, mighty decided the smartest way to bus would be to put Veggie into the running, since there’s a lot more village cred in putting a wolf into a tie than on voting one who already seems to be going over). And this reads list makes that unlikely. So currently feeling good about mightyHere's where I'm at right now
Wonda
Sport/Matt
Mighty
Mkg
Dina
Chic
Samac
Vis
Santy
Dubz
genny
AM
Miranda
I'm feeling okay with this so far.
i don't talk to vegetables.There's not a single god damn interaction between genny and veggie. I went through every single one of their posts since there's not many to be sure.