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that redhead said:
Not going to lie, third year makes me feel panicky. The fact that I have third midterms and a final the 10 days before I'm supposed to spay or neuter a real live creature for the first time ever makes me feel ten times worse. I could use a giant bolus of confidence any time now, universe...
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I'd kill to be in third year 😀
 
that redhead said:
Not going to lie, third year makes me feel panicky. The fact that I have third midterms and a final the 10 days before I'm supposed to spay or neuter a real live creature for the first time ever makes me feel ten times worse. I could use a giant bolus of confidence any time now, universe...
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we have our first castration tomorrow...and our nightmare of a class theriogenology exam fri😱:scared:
 
TooLove said:
I'd kill to be in third year 😀
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I'd rather be here than first year. But it's a pretty steep change, even from just second year!

jmo1012 said:
we have our first castration tomorrow...and our nightmare of a class theriogenology exam fri😱:scared:
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Good luck on both :luck: We start with feline castrations in...three(?) weeks.
 
TooLove said:
I assume your ultimate goal is to be a veterinarian? Maybe this will make more sense to you in practice...you do not want to have 2 clients waiting to be put in rooms while your techs are running bloods or preparing for surgery or otherwise running around and have an 18 year old right out of high school who doesn't know how to get a proper history, TPR, etc.
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Since you ask, I am interested in ultimately being a vet but I'm not in some early phase of the process. I'm at the end of an MPH and plan to pursue a career in public health or regulatory medicine.

While I don't see myself being a clinical veterinarian in the future, if I were to choose that path, having faced problems early on in my pre-vet career being passed over for not having extensive clinical experience for introductory positions, I would be more vigilant to take on less experienced, but still very capable students to train on the job. No one makes it in the veterinary world without someone giving them a chance and it would be my way of "paying it forward." I do not believe in unpaid positions/volunteering (outside of non-profits). I believe students have a right to a wage for their work.

When I was actively applying to positions in undergrad, I was not "inexperienced" in the veterinary field. I had thousands of hours of animal experience and, at the time, hundreds of veterinary hours that were largely non-clinical.

At the end of the day, I have never volunteered my time to a for-profit business and I have never had to "work" in the veterinary field without some kind of compensation, whether that be wages, school credit, stipends, or grants. Even my animal hours that were completed outside of non-profits have been compensated.

I don't see the "No Wage to Low Wage" model of working your way up to be the only acceptable way of tackling the need for veterinary experience. It might be more difficult for the clinical-oriented students to go a different path, but it's doable.

Also, even with two assistant jobs over 5 years at times working 60 hours a week there is no way I could have made a dent in the tuition payment - you will not pay your way through vet school on an assistant's wages.
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In vet school, it should be assumed that you won't be working, at least not outside of a few summers. In undergrad or grad school though, having a steady or periodic income, even if a low income, will give you financial resources to pay for books, rent, utilities, gas, part of tuition, etc. That money will certainly come from somewhere else (loans) if not supplemented through wages.
 
In my experience, the people who were hired as assistants did not last very long. Most of all the assistants that started as kennel assistants are still with us, they only leave when they graduate college and go on to work in their respective field (almost never vet med..so weird).

We only hire assistant positions when we are in a time crunch- ie we only have 1 FT assistant and need 2, but we can't steal anyone from kennels to train because we only have two kennel assistants and should really have 3-4.
 
Jess Monster said:
While I don't see myself being a clinical veterinarian in the future, if I were to choose that path, having faced problems early on in my pre-vet career being passed over for not having extensive clinical experience for introductory positions, I would be more vigilant to take on less experienced, but still very capable students to train on the job. No one makes it in the veterinary world without someone giving them a chance
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Yes, everyone needs that chance, but if you are not willing to be the "poop scooper" (i.e. work for minimum wage; I was making $5.75/hour when I started and I continued to make minimum wage until I had been a VET assistant for 2 years) as I did and many others here did, why should you be given that opportunity above the person who has spent months/years working hard doing the bottom of the ladder job?

I have no qualms with taking aside a dedicated 18 year old kennel assistant and training them into a vet assistant... I have helped do this numerous times. It is very rewarding to watch them grow and learn and since I was there before I can relate to them. I DO have a problem with someone scouring around to find experience but not wanting to or being willing to either work that entry level job (minimum wage or slightly more) or do the volunteer/shadowing work. If I am going to take my time, my patience, my experienced staff and put that energy into a person to train them into a vet assistant... you best damn well know I am going to give that opportunity to someone that I know has worked hard or is willing to work hard.

Jess Monster said:
I don't see the "No Wage to Low Wage" model of working your way up to be the only acceptable way of tackling the need for veterinary experience. It might be more difficult for the clinical-oriented students to go a different path, but it's doable.
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What is wrong with taking a low wage job or volunteering/shadowing for something that you want? It is one thing to be willing to work hard to gain experience and try to get where you need to be; it is another to expect that to be handed to you or that clinics "owe that to students". I see people on here asking quite often about finding experience and the answer has always been: kennel assistant, shadow/volunteer, receptionist... this isn't true in only vet medicine. This is true in any type of professional career. You start at the bottom, work hard, and then continue on. But expecting a place to hire someone who has little to no vet experience on as a vet assistant AND pay them similarly to someone who does have experience is overkill. That is having YOUR cake and eating it too.
 
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DVMDream said:
Yes, everyone needs that chance, but if you are not willing to be the "poop scooper" (i.e. work for minimum wage; I was making $5.75/hour when I started and I continued to make minimum wage until I had been a VET assistant for 2 years) as I did and many others here did, why should you be given that opportunity above the person who has spent months/years working hard doing the bottom of the ladder job?

I have no qualms with taking aside a dedicated 18 year old kennel assistant and training them into a vet assistant... I have helped do this numerous times. It is very rewarding to watch them grow and learn and since I was there before I can relate to them. I DO have a problem with someone scouring around to find experience but not wanting to or being willing to either work that entry level job (minimum wage or slightly more) or do the volunteer/shadowing work. If I am going to take my time, my patience, my experienced staff and put that energy into a person to train them into a vet assistant... you best damn well know I am going to give that opportunity to someone that I know has worked hard or is willing to work hard.



What is wrong with taking a low wage job or volunteering/shadowing for something that you want? It is one thing to be willing to work hard to gain experience and try to get where you need to be; it is another to expect that to be handed that to you or that clinics "owe that to students". I see people on here asking quite often about finding experience and the answer has always been: kennel assistant, shadow/volunteer, receptionist... this isn't true in only vet medicine. This is true in any type of professional career. You start at the bottom, work hard, and then continue on. But expecting a place to hire someone who has little to no vet experience on as a vet assistant AND pay them similarly to someone who does have experience is overkill. That is having YOUR cake and eating it too.
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Agreed. That is basic economics. You can't expect to be paid for a job you are not qualified for.

No one owes anyone anything. It's all nice and dandy to think that clinics should be hiring newbies with no experience to mentor them to be vets, but for many clinics that isn't feasible from either a money or time perspective.

You EARN chances. You should not expect them for free.

Jess, as someone who also got into and went through vet school with little to no clinical experience, I do get what you are saying on some level. Those of us with little clinical experience DO get passed over and sometimes even looked down upon. But like everyone has said, you need to start at the bottom if you are trying to break into a field you have no/little experience in (clinical med)

Think of it from a non-clinical vet's perspective. Would I hire a kid with no research experience to start as an assistant in my lab? No, if there are people more experienced for that position, I will hire them first. I would be happy to take the noob on as a glass washer or whatever until he learned the ropes and proved he really wanted to be there. That IS giving them a chance.
 
I agree with DVMD and WTF. You get your foot in the door anyway possible. I cleaned kennels, mopped floors and took out trash until there was opportunity to be trained in other, higher up duties. I shadowed at LA and equine vets to vary up my experience. Like was said on here, vet assistant isn't really an entry level position. Kennel assist IS the entry level position. While it seems nice to think that hospitals would see pre vets as an opportunity to, I don't know, pass the torch per se? It isn't really feasible to expect a clinic that is trying to be successful to invest time and energy into someone who has never done any of the tasks asked and might, let's be real, not be any good at it. If they hire someone with experience, there is at least the knowledge that they are familiar with the skills needed, and when promoting from within (or hiring someone who diligently showed up to shadow/volunteer), you know their work ethic and some of their learning capacity and in many many cases, they have assisted and at least been exposed to the tasks.
 
Jess Monster said:
While I don't see myself being a clinical veterinarian in the future, if I were to choose that path, having faced problems early on in my pre-vet career being passed over for not having extensive clinical experience for introductory positions, I would be more vigilant to take on less experienced, but still very capable students to train on the job. No one makes it in the veterinary world without someone giving them a chance and it would be my way of "paying it forward." I do not believe in unpaid positions/volunteering (outside of non-profits). I believe students have a right to a wage for their work.

When I was actively applying to positions in undergrad, I was not "inexperienced" in the veterinary field. I had thousands of hours of animal experience and, at the time, hundreds of veterinary hours that were largely non-clinical.

At the end of the day, I have never volunteered my time to a for-profit business and I have never had to "work" in the veterinary field without some kind of compensation, whether that be wages, school credit, stipends, or grants. Even my animal hours that were completed outside of non-profits have been compensated.

I don't see the "No Wage to Low Wage" model of working your way up to be the only acceptable way of tackling the need for veterinary experience. It might be more difficult for the clinical-oriented students to go a different path, but it's doable.
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You may believe that students have a right to compensation for their work, but sorry, that's not the way all of these things work. Sure you can harp on how you think they should be changed, but guess what - that's the way they are. In a way, I suppose you could say its modeled after the profession. You will not be rolling in the dough as a veterinarian. The people who think they will be are weeded out very quickly when they find out how much a kennel assistant or veterinary assistant actually makes and how tough it can be to even get there. In the end, only the people who are there because they truly love it are left. Even if that means you shovel poo for the glimmer of an opportunity to do more. I never said this was the only acceptable way to get experience, but for a lot of people, that is the path they take.

If you want to go into public health, that's great, but why get so fired up about something that doesn't directly relate to your chosen career path? You should "pay it forward" but like I said before, you may be singing a different tune when you have a payroll to sign and all your trained staff is busy and you have students who have no idea how to help you getting paid to stand there and stare. And that's all fine and dandy that you've always been compensated for your experiences; your'e either very lucky, or stubborn depending upon how you look at it. You might have missed out on some awesome and valuable experiences because you were too hardheaded, proud, or whatever to donate your time for no pay. The experience and knowledge you gain IS your pay in some cases. If you walked into a hospital asking for experience and demanding pay, most would laugh in your face.

If everyone started going about getting experience the way you have, you'd have a much harder time getting your grants, stipends, credits, or whatever. Competition is the name of the game and there's only so much money and so many positions and seats available. In general, there's an abundance of veterinarians and the path to vet school is really just a big funnel, where only those who make it all the way through get their DVM and lately it's getting smaller and smaller. Getting relevant experience, paid or not, is just a step of the culling process.

This is my last response to this topic. I have better things to do than argue with you just for the sake of arguing. Like study anatomy.
 
shallow rant.. classes just started, all 4. full time work (50 hour weeks) and full time classes... minor meltdown this week while i adjust to my new life. GAAHHHHHHHHHHHH. that is all 😀 step one of a thousand!!!!!
 
SV88 said:
shallow rant.. classes just started, all 4. full time work (50 hour weeks) and full time classes... minor meltdown this week while i adjust to my new life. GAAHHHHHHHHHHHH. that is all 😀 step one of a thousand!!!!!
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It'll be ok! You'll get used to having no life I promise 🙂
 
Next week I have two surgery cadaver labs, a derm lab, a lab for my exotics elective, AND two exams. And I will be gone Friday/Saturday basically for a Mumford concert that I got tix to in JANUARY. So.

And what am I doing instead of studying? Reddit. GDmned reddit.
 
Jess Monster said:
Since you ask, I am interested in ultimately being a vet but I'm not in some early phase of the process. I'm at the end of an MPH and plan to pursue a career in public health or regulatory medicine.

While I don't see myself being a clinical veterinarian in the future, if I were to choose that path, having faced problems early on in my pre-vet career being passed over for not having extensive clinical experience for introductory positions, I would be more vigilant to take on less experienced, but still very capable students to train on the job. No one makes it in the veterinary world without someone giving them a chance and it would be my way of "paying it forward." I do not believe in unpaid positions/volunteering (outside of non-profits). I believe students have a right to a wage for their work.

When I was actively applying to positions in undergrad, I was not "inexperienced" in the veterinary field. I had thousands of hours of animal experience and, at the time, hundreds of veterinary hours that were largely non-clinical.

At the end of the day, I have never volunteered my time to a for-profit business and I have never had to "work" in the veterinary field without some kind of compensation, whether that be wages, school credit, stipends, or grants. Even my animal hours that were completed outside of non-profits have been compensated.

I don't see the "No Wage to Low Wage" model of working your way up to be the only acceptable way of tackling the need for veterinary experience. It might be more difficult for the clinical-oriented students to go a different path, but it's doable.



In vet school, it should be assumed that you won't be working, at least not outside of a few summers. In undergrad or grad school though, having a steady or periodic income, even if a low income, will give you financial resources to pay for books, rent, utilities, gas, part of tuition, etc. That money will certainly come from somewhere else (loans) if not supplemented through wages.
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Look at it from the clinics perspective. Maybe they just had someone quit, get fired, take a different job, move away, need medical leave, etc. Now, maybe that person gave two weeks notice, maybe they didn't. The clinic could be short staffed until they hire a new assistant, putting stress on the other techs/assistants who have to pick up the slack. Stressed assistants are no fun to work with (I've been one, so I know 😉) and make stressed doctors. All around bad situation.

Now, if you were the clinic manager, would you want to hire the person who already has experience and would only need a week or so of "training" before assisting in things like surgical procedures, or would you hire the college student who has little or no experience, a school schedule to work around, and would take a good couple of months to train before being comfortable enough assisting in surgery? Oh, and the student is applying to vet school, so they will only be working there for a year, maybe two, and then you're going to have to start the hiring process all over again.

It's great to say that clinics should "pay it forward" and hire students interested in veterinary medicine, but the reality is that clinics are small businesses and ultimately have to do what is best for the business (and the sanity of the staff).
 
twelvetigers said:
Next week I have two surgery cadaver labs, a derm lab, a lab for my exotics elective, AND two exams. And I will be gone Friday/Saturday basically for a Mumford concert that I got tix to in JANUARY. So.

And what am I doing instead of studying? Reddit. GDmned reddit.
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My life. Sigh. I wish my bf had never introduced me.
 
Abney said:
It'll be ok! You'll get used to having no life I promise 🙂
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Thanks!

I'm kind of trying to look forward to no life... So I don't go insane 😀 I just need to work on staying on top of things... Gah!!! Plus, I hate textbooks. They're more than my monthly rent!! 😀
 
Working Four 12-16 hr days unexpectedly this weekend. Co-worker went into ER tonight(I had to MAKE her go!) and there is no one else to cover her shifts. Of course we are shorthanded at BOTH of my jobs. Makes for a very unhappy me. 🙁

Just got home from 13 hrs, back in 3 for another 16. Blah!
 
The nightmares have returned. I thought I was doing so well. Last night I was laying in bed for 2 hours before I even came close to falling asleep and once I did, all I dreamt about were terrible, scary things which woke me up. I knew that my anxiety was getting bad again. I could tell that it was building. Now I'm stuck because I can't see my doctor today and I won't be home again for months. Guess I'll have to find a new doctor?
 
Had a quiz online due at 8am this morning. Was working on it and only had half the questions done when the program automatically submitted my quiz. 😡 I emailed the professor last night when it happened and he still hasn't responded, which means I failed the quiz. Ugh!
 
Super stressed out since I'm applying for a volunteer thing I did last year a couple times before my car was totaled (so I had to stop going and now I finally have a car again). Last year it was just show up, go to the orientation, start when you're able, and do it whenever. Now I have to get a letter of recommendation and I'm really stressed because my coach/boss who's the only person I worked for really (for five years) is literally the worst at responding to emails and getting back to you on things so I don't think he'll respond with a written letter in time (I'd be lucky if he responded at all in time lol). I could ask someone from one of my other volunteer things I did this summer but they don't know me that well. They've also gotten strict about the time requirements here which they weren't before.

I also feel like they did all this because of how i stopped coming last year which is dumb since I told them I got in an accident so they probably knew that's why I wasn't coming and the volunteer calendar was basically always empty compared to the tons of people at orientation. So I know I'm just being dumb but I still feel really bad haha
 
My dog was just diagnosed with PLN. And I'm stuck in Ohio 🙁
 
I'm so disappointed with myself right now 🙁. I applied a while ago to all these places to volunteer and of course I was told "don't be upset if you don't get into all of them", so naturally I thought I would only get into 1, NOPE I got into all 3 -- they were all AMAZING and not something you just turn down. I juggled it for a year but lately I've crashed, and I crashed hard. I got asked to take a break from my volunteer position cause I didn't realize I was missing shifts which actually ended up affecting the employees. I feel terrible, I apologized and re worked my schedule, I showed up for my new shifts but still got asked to leave and call back after the holidays if I want to return. I feel relieved that someone forced me to slow down, but it was an amazing opportunity and I can't help but be extremely mad at myself.
 
OSUPreVet said:
I'm so disappointed with myself right now 🙁. I applied a while ago to all these places to volunteer and of course I was told "don't be upset if you don't get into all of them", so naturally I thought I would only get into 1, NOPE I got into all 3 -- they were all AMAZING and not something you just turn down. I juggled it for a year but lately I've crashed, and I crashed hard. I got asked to take a break from my volunteer position cause I didn't realize I was missing shifts which actually ended up affecting the employees. I feel terrible, I apologized and re worked my schedule, I showed up for my new shifts but still got asked to leave and call back after the holidays if I want to return. I feel relieved that someone forced me to slow down, but it was an amazing opportunity and I can't help but be extremely mad at myself.
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While it's understandable that you're mad at yourself for what happened, you even said it yourself...it's probably for the best that you had to stop one of your positions. The thing with volunteer/work/experience is that it's not necessarily quantity that's important, it's quality of the work. And yeah they were all amazing places, but the quality of work you were putting in wasn't good enough for someone. I always try to look at it from the perspective of the people writing recommendation letters. Do you want to stretch yourself thin, volunteer at three places, and have three potential LOR writers never fully get the chance to know you well enough to write a quality letter? Or volunteer at one place and really put in quality time and know for sure that a potential LOR writer is really getting to know you? Just my two cents 🙂
 
I've been feeling super sick all week and was running a fever for four days in a row. Didn't want to risk falling behind so early in the semester so I was taking ibuprofen every 5 hours or so to make myself functional enough to get out of bed and go to class. Fever finally went away yesterday afternoon but at 2 AM today I wound up in the emergency room with unbearably severe upper abdominal pain. No perforation fortunately, but the lining of my stomach is severely irritated and its going to take a while to heal. Lesson learned: ibuprofen is not a toy.

Thank God I procrastinated and hadn't gotten around to opting-out of the student insurance policy yet. I seriously think PEI has it out for me. 🙄
 
Feeling super dizzy today. I almost fell over when I got out of bed. I am usually not this dizzy..I do have low BP, but I took it this morning and it was actually pretty normal. My HR was insanely high though. It is a little better now...but I just feel so weird. I don't have time for this..I need to start reviewing for my path exam on Tuesday🙁 (that is, if I don't wind up on the path table in a ME's morgue by that time..hah)
 
DVMDream said:
Yes, everyone needs that chance, but if you are not willing to be the "poop scooper" (i.e. work for minimum wage; I was making $5.75/hour when I started and I continued to make minimum wage until I had been a VET assistant for 2 years) as I did and many others here did, why should you be given that opportunity above the person who has spent months/years working hard doing the bottom of the ladder job?

I have no qualms with taking aside a dedicated 18 year old kennel assistant and training them into a vet assistant... I have helped do this numerous times. It is very rewarding to watch them grow and learn and since I was there before I can relate to them. I DO have a problem with someone scouring around to find experience but not wanting to or being willing to either work that entry level job (minimum wage or slightly more) or do the volunteer/shadowing work. If I am going to take my time, my patience, my experienced staff and put that energy into a person to train them into a vet assistant... you best damn well know I am going to give that opportunity to someone that I know has worked hard or is willing to work hard.



What is wrong with taking a low wage job or volunteering/shadowing for something that you want? It is one thing to be willing to work hard to gain experience and try to get where you need to be; it is another to expect that to be handed to you or that clinics "owe that to students". I see people on here asking quite often about finding experience and the answer has always been: kennel assistant, shadow/volunteer, receptionist... this isn't true in only vet medicine. This is true in any type of professional career. You start at the bottom, work hard, and then continue on. But expecting a place to hire someone who has little to no vet experience on as a vet assistant AND pay them similarly to someone who does have experience is overkill. That is having YOUR cake and eating it too.
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Oh so nicely said DVMD! There are some very key points here. Bottom line, you have to prove yourself....if you truly have the desire and dedication then you are willing to make every effort, go the extra mile every time and pick up the poop when it needs to be. You work HARD for and EARN what you want!
 
Coquette22 said:
I can sympathize. I hate repro. The only reason I even semi enjoyed it last year was because the therio prof at AVC is amazing. First year repro physiology made me want to take a long walk off a short pier.
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I love repro but there's a point where it's just enough for a couple days at least..
 
Coquette22 said:
I can sympathize. I hate repro. The only reason I even semi enjoyed it last year was because the therio prof at AVC is amazing. First year repro physiology made me want to take a long walk off a short pier.
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We don't have therio this year, it's being replaced by companion animal behavior. I'm excited for the change unless Dr. C from behavior is teaching, then I will be über disappointed.
 
Ooh, is that how they're doing that? I remember them saying that you guys were getting a shiny new behaviour course but I didn't know it was replacing therio. Not sure if you mean Behaviour Man Dr C or Behaviour Woman Dr C (though I don't know if Behaviour Woman Dr C is involved with teaching or if she's strictly with the SJDAWC). Either way, I wouldn't be too thrilled with it myself. Glad we didn't have it, I've never had a huge interest in companion animal behaviour. 😴

Shame you won't have Dr L for therio though. He sang last year. "Summertiiiiiiime... And the mares are cycling...." :laugh: As I said, I hate therio, but I actually looked forward to that class.
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Coquette22 said:
Ooh, is that how they're doing that? I remember them saying that you guys were getting a shiny new behaviour course but I didn't know it was replacing therio. Not sure if you mean Behaviour Man Dr C or Behaviour Woman Dr C (though I don't know if Behaviour Woman Dr C is involved with teaching or if she's strictly with the SJDAWC). Either way, I wouldn't be too thrilled with it myself. Glad we didn't have it, I've never had a huge interest in companion animal behaviour. 😴

Shame you won't have Dr L for therio though. He sang last year. "Summertiiiiiiime... And the mares are cycling...." :laugh: As I said, I hate therio, but I actually looked forward to that class.
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Man Dr. C. His lecture on dog behavior last year was him showing pictures of his sheltie 🙄 He passed the cat behavior lecture to a grad student and she did a fantastic job. It has the potential to be a good class if they get someone who actually knows about companion animal behavior, not someone who admits he knows nothing about dog and cat behavior so he shows off his dog instead 🙄
 
PetPony said:
I don't wanna study no more repro..
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UGH i HATE repro with a firey burning passion! therio is awful. hate it hate i hate it!!


Coquette22 said:
I can sympathize. I hate repro. The only reason I even semi enjoyed it last year was because the therio prof at AVC is amazing. First year repro physiology made me want to take a long walk off a short pier.
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i dont suppose you have electronic notes you'd be willing to pass on do you? we have a "new" therio prof teaching this term who really really needs to retire and head to the nearest hospital to get some help. he can't even for a coherent sentence let alone string thoughts together. his notes are a total mess, his teaching is a disaster, and i am at a total loss as to what to do with this class. so incredibly frustrating and disheartening. i feel so depressed about how the heck i am going to make it through the term without failing this class. the school really really needs to intervene ASAP
 
I woke up with strep throat this morning. I know what it is without seeing a doctor because I've had it 3 times since I was 14 (and also how I learned I'm allergic to penicillin). I'm already fighting financially to stay afloat from my last doctor bills and now I have to go in again to get this dealt with, AND I missed work because who the heck is going to want me around? I was looking at health insurance the other day too but decided to wait until next month after I got my credit card down a little bit more to actually go forward with it. Touche body, touche. If I could swear on here this next line would just be completely curse words.
 
I am frustrated and annoyed....... it is just not my year really... things just keep going wrong

So I am supposed to be due for an ungrade with my phone, I was told this over the phone a few months back and at the time I said I would wait a bit as I was fine with the phone I had. The guy was pushy and was like well take some free minutes right now then. I said I don't really need free minutes, I don't use all the ones I have. He was like they are free, just take them. I said well it won't affect the upgrade right? I can get that whenever I want? He said yes no problem. So I took the minutes. Well low and behold, now I need a damn phone cause I lost mine and I go to talk to them about getting one and I am not eligible for a phone cause I took the minutes. I was like WTF! 😡 Apparently it was like a 6 mth contract for the minutes and once that is up I will be eligible again. BUT REALLY?! Utter BS. I have to wait 2 more months to get a phone which is crap, I don't have 2 months to wait and I sure as heck do not want to pay out of pocket for a new phone. So I am arguing with them and sending strongly worded letters and will post on all of their social media if I need it.

The guy who gave me the minutes was not clear about it taking away my upgrade or I would have never done it. I did not need the damn minutes. I am so FECKING MAD! ROAR! 😡😡😡

And nothing is going right right now..... my washer broke last night, so I had to take out all my clothes sopping wet, then take them to the cleaners today as they were never gonna dry. I just feel like I can't catch a break....

Oh well....
 
ky261682 said:
Man Dr. C. His lecture on dog behavior last year was him showing pictures of his sheltie 🙄 He passed the cat behavior lecture to a grad student and she did a fantastic job. It has the potential to be a good class if they get someone who actually knows about companion animal behavior, not someone who admits he knows nothing about dog and cat behavior so he shows off his dog instead 🙄
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You mean we have even more behavior after this? I can barely stay awake in first year behavior as it is. 😴



Devyn, did you happen to get the name of the person you talked to, or even just the exact date and time you called? Or your monthly statement might even have a specific order or service number from when they added the minutes. Most companies record all of their customer service calls, so with enough details you might get lucky and find someone willing to go back and find the recording to prove that you were cheated. :xf:
 
The cat never wants to make use of the nice perch and comfy bed I made her in my den....nope....she has to continually try to jump for the back of my task chair, miss and drag her claws down the side of my arm in an attempt to save herself from falling.

Why can't they ever be happy with their designated spot?? 🙄
 
Escalla said:
The cat never wants to make use of the nice perch and comfy bed I made her in my den....nope....she has to continually try to jump for the back of my task chair, miss and drag her claws down the side of my arm in an attempt to save herself from falling.

Why can't they ever be happy with their designated spot?? 🙄
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Because it's a cat and they're never happy with something that isn't their idea.
 
Can't get my dog's allergies under control. He's constantly itching and has chewed his tail open again. We recently switched to Zyrtec about 2 weeks ago now. I'm using a generic due to cost, since he and I both take it now, but I haven't seen any improvement even with jumping up to BID dosing for the past couple of days. I just feel so bad that he's itching so much. Anyone happen to have an oatmeal based shampoo they recommend? I'm thinking of trying one to see if it brings any relief.
 
LA Emergency night shift sucks big time. 6 pm - 7:30 am watching cows and horses munch on hay. Zzzzzzzzz........ it's gonna be a long two weeks. 🙁
 
orca2011 said:
Can't get my dog's allergies under control. He's constantly itching and has chewed his tail open again. We recently switched to Zyrtec about 2 weeks ago now. I'm using a generic due to cost, since he and I both take it now, but I haven't seen any improvement even with jumping up to BID dosing for the past couple of days. I just feel so bad that he's itching so much. Anyone happen to have an oatmeal based shampoo they recommend? I'm thinking of trying one to see if it brings any relief.
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I'm on Derm... come see us! 🙂
 
bunnity said:
I'm on Derm... come see us! 🙂
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He was brought over briefly, uhhh, last week I think to pick their brains a little. We will probably be back.


ETA: Looks like we're looking at a food trial before a visit to derm. This'll be fun since he likes to eat things off the street...
 
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orca2011 said:
He was brought over briefly, uhhh, last week I think to pick their brains a little. We will probably be back.


ETA: Looks like we're looking at a food trial before a visit to derm. This'll be fun since he likes to eat things off the street...
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Aww good luck! If you use the Purina HA food, it's available free through the Purina feeding program which helps make things a little less expensive.
 
I'm really sad since I have the opportunity to volunteer at the sbci and work with zookeepers and vets but its actually a little over two hours away (I thought it a little less than 1.5 when I applied) and I can't really justify it anymore since that would mean leaving campus Friday night , driving up, staying at mu uncles, and not getting back until late at night Saturday every other weekend. I'd miss out on too much at school and not have much time for hw on the weekends but this is a once in a lifetime thing that I got super excited about it. It would have been good last year when I was having a lot of issues here and was really lonely but stuff is better this year and I have so much more work and I really couldn't say for sure I'd be able to do the full year commitment.
 
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