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...Or a bomb player, who could kill anyone who attacked them.
Being that Coopah was untrackable, I would gander she tried to do the attacking.

so this bothers me a little more after reading this:
Whoa seems like yesterday you were pretty new, where did you get this clever idea? I only learned this sorta thing from wiki, open thread, PM, or.... wolf pack. I side eye noobs that seem too smart for a noob. Sorta backwards compliment, I guess.
cuz i had thought coffee was talking about this:
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i would agree with cray, where did you get this idea?
 
so this bothers me a little more after reading this:

cuz i had thought coffee was talking about this:
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i would agree with cray, where did you get this idea?
Coffee? already explained this
...Or a bomb player, who could kill anyone who attacked them.
Being that Coopah was untrackable, I would gander she tried to do the attacking.

Whoa seems like yesterday you were pretty new, where did you get this clever idea? I only learned this sorta thing from wiki, open thread, PM, or.... wolf pack. I side eye noobs that seem too smart for a noob. Sorta backwards compliment, I guess.

Thanks, I learned from modding with Kara, though 😉
 
This is irritating, now wolves have an excuse for role claim overlap. The tasting could be seering of any variety, why did you go with role copy?

Plus if she had played it off as a one time ability they may have attacked again and she might have killed them again. Too bad.

If you aren't protecting any one, why can't you just show use your proof so we can decide? i can't blindly follow you without more after the Colorado WW debacle
That doesn't mean i don't love you but I need moar...

so this bothers me a little more after reading this:

cuz i had thought coffee was talking about this:
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i would agree with cray, where did you get this idea?

Pawsy for someone who was a little sensitive to discussing ideas of mechanics, you sure seem to like to discuss ideas of mechanics
 
Pawsy for someone who was a little sensitive to discussing ideas of mechanics, you sure seem to like to discuss ideas of mechanics
I have no problem talking mechanics, just was revisiting that after rereading the thread. Satisfied with the response. Fyi, the first quote was irritation due to the discussion of copying powers because I thought it gave wolves an ability to say "I did such and such" and if called out by the real power role they could be like oh well I can copy stuff. Is that what's happening with the duplicative things? I don't know and now village has one less means of catching someone in a lie.
 
Day 4 Lynch tally:
Bryndy (3)
- AM, Coffee, Cray
Paws (1) - Glamm
AM (1) - Stagg
RL-KB (1) - MA
Stagg (1) - Paws
Nyan (1) - Pippy

8/24

Lynch deadline in 7.5 hours (9pm Central/10p Eastern)
 
So what was with the tree?

And if it was an item, that means it isn't related to an ability directly then, right? So not likely to be a boosted silencer?
 
So I'm looking at Bryn first today, as she's our current leader. She's been pretty focused on Jboo, which doesn't bother me because my reads were pretty similar to hers. I'll quote them in a spoiler tag so my post is easier to sift through. I put notable lines in bold:

@genny your vote yesterday had no explanation to it (unless you count "because I wanted to", so I wonder who you will be voting for today.

JBoo mentioned the "hiding wolf" several times, and while some wolves may be keeping more quiet, it's not really something that needs to be reiterated multiple times. So this comes off as just trying to post without much content.

Elfa voted with the majority yesterday, which doesn't contribute to independent thought on thread at all. @Elfabeth do you have any thoughts today on who you think seems wolfy?


My vote will likely be going to one of the above, unless someone else throws up some red flags as the day progresses.


Right now I'm leaning village on dolphin, for sticking with their gut on voting, and not just voting for one of the leading candidates. Just because a couple of people are leading, does not mean you should vote for them if you do not feel there are good enough reasons behind those votes.

Jboo, why are you on Moose for posting so many reads? Would you rather have her keep them to herself? Do you have any other reason for voting WZ?

I don't see how that means she can't have a handful of reads. I have a hard time on D1 as well, but that doesn't mean everyone else does.

So. Many. Posts.


I didn't like how she went after Moose for throwing up multiple reads on D1, that just seems counter-productive to me. I think Moose is a newer player and it looks like she is trying to make connections between her past games with players, and this game. Jboo says that she has trouble getting reads on people D1 (as do I), but that doesn't mean that other people can't pick up/see what we do not. Moose has had reasoning behind why she feels one way or another about players, and that's what I like to see.


WZ was on my list yesterday, but looking back over her posts is making me move her more into the neutral category, although there is something I can't pinpoint that just doesn't seem right. I would be fine voting here if more flags come up from her (like the word slip-up) because something feels off.

Jboo I think is tunneling on Moose, who honestly seems to me to be just trying to get her reads out there. Jboo mentioned something about "BS reads", and I assumed she was talking about Moose, but when I went back to look at Moose's reads, they didn't seem very far-fetched. @johnnaboo who would you be voting for if not Moose?

@genny you thought coffee was wolfy, do you still feel that way or is there someone else you are looking at more closely?

DVMD I was leaning strongly as village, both with what she has been posting and the general feel I am getting from her. I also have Dolphin as village.


And then there is this interaction. . .


And then Stagg either incorrectly infers what she was trying to say, or s/he was twisting her words with the bolded, to which DMVD gets pretty defensive (understandably so, I get mad when I think people are trying to twist my words). So I'm not sure if this was just a big misunderstanding, or there is something more here.


So for today I'm thinking of voting for Stagg, WZ, or Jboo depending on how they are posting today.

I voted for Jboo because there were specific posts I could go back to with her that seemed like they were reaching a bit, were overly focused on something, or that seemed to be picking on someone for something that didn't make sense (Moose situation). In addition to those posts I am getting a bit of a wolfy vibe from her. For WZ, when I initially read through the thread, there was something that just didn't "feel" right about her, but looking back at her posts I can't pinpoint exactly what it was that bothered me on my first read through. I think the smarter decision was to go with someone I had both specific examples for, and feels, as opposed to just the latter.

When I was ISO'ing her, I realized that Bryn was one of the players who didn't check in at all on D1. That gives her frustrations with Jboo's 'behind the thread' comments a different feel.

What is really odd is how quickly she shifts from this:

She can PM anyone, cannot verify that she is village, but the first part of her claim is true.

To this:

I strongly feel Moose is village, Jboo being able to PM anyone seems more village to me, and she was one of my top choices so I am moving to PBC. Moose's play really makes me feel she is just a nooby villager

They were posted less than 20 minutes apart. After posting multiple times about how weird Jboo's posting is, how she's getting a wolfy vibe from her . . . she goes from "I cannot verify that she is village" to "this seems more village to me", even though multiple people mentioned that pm roles can easily go either way. That's a quick turn around and I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish.
 
Yeah, forget the tree, it made sense in my head but doesn't now.

I never stated it was a boosted silencer.
That was my guess of the reason you kept asking if I was the "muffler" and others said someone else was silenced too (And the other doubled abilities) was a booster.

I am just reading d2 now, so I am seeing a lot of the stuff I inferred was wrong. This can be added to the list.
 
I'm beginning to understand why DVMD hates hydras. Looking at Red's posts, I'm struggling to decide if these are things Kara would have allowed if they were a wolf (depending on how much control she's taking - I think she's trying not to dominate their play).

- There's clear tunneling on Moose. Red gets after her for being quiet D1, for being absent near lynch close, for being hesitant to put out a vote, for have 'blah' reads, for using a spreadsheet but not posting enough info from it . . .

- I dislike this type of post on principle.

Thanks everyone for at least giving me the chance to play for one day. I get it that I’m inexperienced but that doesn’t mean I’m guilty. I’m just doing my best
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- I would read Red's preoccupation with Moose as mostly noobness, but apparently Kara is on board as well

Per Kara earlier today: "I don't like how our position on moose was twisted. It wasn't just her being quiet but how she was posting and that she gave reads when being pushed."

-Retaliatory vote:

You’re lynching me solely based on me not being glued to my computer all day? Okay, but that seems a bit hasty.


I’ve been dealing with my sick cat all day, who I was worried could be potentially be blocked. I checked in when I had a moment to read things over then I just made the 2 hour drive back home to try and beat some bad weather. Sorry, life happened.


I am home now and will be in checking periodically


And addressing @DVMDream ’s concerns: I was talking about your posts outside of WW, which are usually lengthy and shows your insight. Example: see the Banfield debt forgiveness thread. This was clarified when someone (AM I think it was?) asked me shortly after if I had ever played with you.


Kara has been giving me her insight in the playing styles of other people. She’s explained that some are chattier, some are quieter, some are more passive and some dominate the discussion. As a noob I’m figuring out it can be a learning curve to read some people I haven’t had much interaction with before. And I’m also figuring out that game personalities can be different from how someone is outside of the game.


Lynch Coffee

Your hastiness to lynch me feels like an excuse to make me an easy target. And I’m confused by your weird comment about tasting something.


And this is weird, but I'm not sure how to read it.


- Dubz mentioned AM's feels on Moose

- Red replied that she feels she deserves credit, not AM

- Jboo is called out for tunneling

- Red replied that she's been tunneling on Moose more than Jboo


Why does Red want credit for her Moose feels so badly? These feels like a clumsy bus attempt, and she gets frustrated when credit starts to go to other people. I don't see Kara being this brazen about it though, but I don't know if she's proofing posts or how much she influences what Red says.

A compilation of random thoughts:

On reread, coop/Peebs interactions don't read wolf/wolf. I didn't get too much else from ISOing coop's posts...maybe a village point or two for AM and cheezit.

If Elf needed a mentor post-game start...probably doesn't have a wolf pack at her disposal

Paws feels like herself as I mentioned.

I'm ok with coffee for now, nothing too solid, just some things she's said that put her in my village lean category.

And I'll give pip village credit for the rez for now.

I don't bother to evaluate MJ. Leave that to others. Our PMs have not really been game-related so far, that is not unusual.

I'm wary of DVMD because the last time I remember she did a catch up like the one she did today, I'm pretty sure she was a wolf and I put her on my village list for that move. Don't remember which game off the top of my head. I fully acknowledge that may be a selective memory of something that is actually a null tell. So really I'm just keeping an eye there/reminding myself not to clear her for behavior I've seen her emulate as a wolf.

Would love to hear more from ny and allie (I know that might not happen, in ny's case because she is herself, and allie because she's far behind on the thread). Skim and bryn will hopeful contribute more now soon.

Something seemed...off about Glam. Just an impression that I don't have specific backup for yet.

There's smoke in the moose area that i think may indicate a fire. I have to admit I'm curious to see if AM is onto something there.

Everyone else I'm kind of in "meh" territory.

27 players, probably a chaos in there, maybe a neutral...I figure we're looking at 5 wolves total. 4+convert (but I'm not talking about converts yet
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So if I had to pick a top three I'd go Glam, moose...and probably someone that's been more under the radar.

AM? I don’t think you’re giving me enough credit as I have openly said I think she’s wolfy from Day 1.

don't like moose's hesitance to put in a vote. Makes it seem like she is waiting to see which way the wind blows which is pretty wolfy. When you vote you get to see how that person responds and other people respond to it. Moose has 'reads', they're not great and seem pretty blah. Not only that but she didn't tell us her thoughts on the people she called out. Just gave a lot of excuses. I want to know her thoughts on the people she called out as well as where she's at now.

Lol. You might have been on for hours but you did little to actually contribute. All I see is you arguing with am and halfheartedly trying to get ny to participate. Good luck with the latter by the way?

Wanna vote yet?

Lol. If anyone should be called out for tunneling moose, it should be us
So why call out jboo but not us?


it almost feels like the wolves are holding back. Did someone get lucky and catch a wolf? Do the wolves know it and are trying see if momentum will go to that wolf or if they will escape?

I want to hear more from Red, especially any thoughts on players besides Moose.

Lynch Red-Kara
 
So I'm looking at Bryn first today, as she's our current leader. She's been pretty focused on Jboo, which doesn't bother me because my reads were pretty similar to hers. I'll quote them in a spoiler tag so my post is easier to sift through. I put notable lines in bold:


When I was ISO'ing her, I realized that Bryn was one of the players who didn't check in at all on D1. That gives her frustrations with Jboo's 'behind the thread' comments a different feel.

What is really odd is how quickly she shifts from this:



To this:



They were posted less than 20 minutes apart. After posting multiple times about how weird Jboo's posting is, how she's getting a wolfy vibe from her . . . she goes from "I cannot verify that she is village" to "this seems more village to me", even though multiple people mentioned that pm roles can easily go either way. That's a quick turn around and I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish.
Is there an echo in here? I feel like there's an echo in here....
 
So I'm looking at Bryn first today, as she's our current leader. She's been pretty focused on Jboo, which doesn't bother me because my reads were pretty similar to hers. I'll quote them in a spoiler tag so my post is easier to sift through. I put notable lines in bold:


When I was ISO'ing her, I realized that Bryn was one of the players who didn't check in at all on D1. That gives her frustrations with Jboo's 'behind the thread' comments a different feel.

What is really odd is how quickly she shifts from this:



To this:



They were posted less than 20 minutes apart. After posting multiple times about how weird Jboo's posting is, how she's getting a wolfy vibe from her . . . she goes from "I cannot verify that she is village" to "this seems more village to me", even though multiple people mentioned that pm roles can easily go either way. That's a quick turn around and I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Yeah, that's not a shift. That's me saying that just because her ability seems more village, doesn't mean that I am going to in any way vouch for her not being a wolf. Just means I was going to give it more time. I don't like how you are trying to throw shade my way, by making it seem like I'm saying stuff that I'm not.

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Ok.

Someone want to go ahead and claim that if possible, or claim the assassin shot or assassin item use?
Like seriously, if it was an item, there is no reason not to share it this far after it happened, and it would be useful for semi-clearing people and moving the game solving process along.

Actually, not much point to keeping it hidden if it was a kickback ability, either, because wolves would obviously already know who Coop attacked. It's basically just keeping info from the village at this point.

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So you are responsible for Coop's death?

Can you elaborate at all? Because I was leaning towards putting a vote on you today but this does make me second guess that
No, I know nothing about the Coop death, but I can knock out a player at any point in the game, day or night.
 
I have a "KO" I can use 😉
No, I know nothing about the Coop death, but I can knock out a player at any point in the game, day or night.
Why...why would you volunteer that if it hasn't been used yet

That is not what I was asking for at all

Edit: oh ffs I keep forgetting. This isn't an image but it's a mesmerizing video, I hope that counts
 
Can you elaborate on what you mean by knockout? Are they not allowed to post on the thread? Are they dead?
I'm not sure, my guess was the latter. I can ask the mods

Why...why would you volunteer that if it hasn't been used yet

That is not what I was asking for at all

Edit: oh ffs I keep forgetting. This isn't an image but it's a mesmerizing video, I hope that counts

Eh, I'm up for lynch right now and y'all get mad when I wait till the end of the day, so there it is.
 
I could vote there, or WZ. My hope is to go back and reread later this afternoon, and see if anyone else sticks out on another reread. I feel more strongly about sketch content on PBC's part, with some gut feeling, and I have just a little (content-wise) about WZ, and her sketch comes mostly from feeling like she is off. Looking back to last night, I can totally see how my vote could have looked like a bus vote, but I still think some of your lies were eyebrow-raisers for sure, so you are also on my list as well. Again, all depends on who accumulates the most sketch points, and if anyone else earns themselves more in the meantime.

Can you organize a list of the current players in terms of feels?
 
So I'm looking at Bryn first today, as she's our current leader. She's been pretty focused on Jboo, which doesn't bother me because my reads were pretty similar to hers. I'll quote them in a spoiler tag so my post is easier to sift through. I put notable lines in bold:


When I was ISO'ing her, I realized that Bryn was one of the players who didn't check in at all on D1. That gives her frustrations with Jboo's 'behind the thread' comments a different feel.

What is really odd is how quickly she shifts from this:



To this:



They were posted less than 20 minutes apart. After posting multiple times about how weird Jboo's posting is, how she's getting a wolfy vibe from her . . . she goes from "I cannot verify that she is village" to "this seems more village to me", even though multiple people mentioned that pm roles can easily go either way. That's a quick turn around and I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish.

Where are you netting bryndy?
 
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