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potentialsheltervet said:
I just think it seems weird when at that point there were only two votes on kdswg at that point.
However, of note is that genny voted for kdswg very shortly after barks to definitively get rid of kdswg. I don't know genny's bussing status but is it possible genny and barks are wolfing together and decided to get rid of the noob for self-prez?
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This just feels unlikely unless she like, begged them in wolfchat to let her die.
 
WildZoo said:
This just feels unlikely unless she like, begged them in wolfchat to let her die.
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Yeah, at that point I feel like it would have been relatively easy to shift the momentum from her onto someone like Bob, if he wasn't a wolf, or... Cubs? Stoat? Me?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
You don't think that's way too obvious?
I'm surprised the wolves didn't take out AM given she's essentially known as village right now and is a very unlikely misyeet anyway. My only thought is they may be hoping/planning to convert her later on, and I really don't like that idea.
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WIFOM. But regardless you have to tear apart the village bloc
 
Truenamer said:
Best argument I can see against yeeting Bob at the moment is that a wolf would not have been so totally checked out from the threat around a vote closed time. Does that hold any water for you?
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It's confusing me that one of your big marks against Bob was his wildly different activity level day 2 compared to day 1 (real life time) and now you're using his inactivity day 3 as a village point. Giving me some whiplash.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
It's confusing me that one of your big marks against Bob was his wildly different activity level day 2 compared to day 1 (real life time) and now you're using his inactivity day 3 as a village point. Giving me some whiplash.
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You're misreading me, I'm not talking about his day three activity at all.

I'm sorry that you're confused but I don't think I'm the reason.
 
So there's never a real point where there wasn't some pressure on kds.

Bob vote seems sensible but I will want to read the thread a bit and make sure it's my own view and not sheeping because I'm tired and it looks good enough to go with
 
bluestoat said:
The one time I was like "oh, two people died right as they were onto this person," it was an opportune red herring made out of villager. Agreed that that seems very on the nose.
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When your wolfing, you have these discussions. But at the end of the day you still have to take out village bloc. And if someone is attacking you, you take them out. And then you claim I was set up
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why do you feel Barks is w/w with genny?
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Because I haven't seen genny justify her kdswg vote at all. The only mention of kdswg I found when I did a very brief ISO was her yeet, which was naked. She then later agreed with others that kdswg had sounded very village before the yeet without saying why she ultimately chose to yeet her in spite of her village-sounding posts.
I'm not necessarily considering them as a package deal. I just find the vote timing from both of them to be very suspect.
 
Truenamer said:
Yeah, at that point I feel like it would have been relatively easy to shift the momentum from her onto someone like Bob, if he wasn't a wolf, or... Cubs? Stoat? Me?
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Stoatwagon always gains traction! Except for in this game lol. If I survive another wagon I'm putting it in my subtitle text
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Because I haven't seen genny justify her kdswg vote at all. The only mention of kdswg I found when I did a very brief ISO was her yeet, which was naked. She then later agreed with others that kdswg had sounded very village before the yeet without saying why she ultimately chose to yeet her in spite of her village-sounding posts.
I'm not necessarily considering them as a package deal. I just find the vote timing from both of them to be very suspect.
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In a world where Barks/genny are w/w, why would they essentially prevent village from saving kdsw since they have the numbers to force anyone else in the lead over her?
 
Truenamer said:
I'm sorry, that was a rude and snappy thing for me to say. I just feel like you keep misreading the things I say and then getting upset over them and then having to walk it back when it's explained.
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It's fine that you're frustrated by that because maybe I'm not explaining my process very well, so here's my thinking.
You wanted to yeet Bob because he was inactive day one and that would've made you feel better than yeeting Dana, who you felt sorry for. Day two he came in to the thread, presumably because he wasn't as busy in real life, and you questioned him being more active day two than he was day one. You now say one thing you find not-wolfy about him is his day three activity, or lack thereof, because he wasn't posting around yeet time despite being very much in danger. He then came into the thread and posted before looking at D2 (in-game) results since he didn't know he was in trouble or that kdswg had been yoten/was a wolf.
My confusion is coming from you reading him wolfy because of inactivity and then wolfy because of activity patterns and then not wolfy because of inactivity at a specific time when the whole game a constant mention has been that inactivity (or activity) is NAI.
 
Animal Midwife said:
In a world where Barks/genny are w/w, why would they essentially prevent village from saving kdsw since they have the numbers to force anyone else in the lead over her?
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Maybe because they figured she would wind up being flipped soon anyway and that would make it suspicious of them to have saved her?
I get that it's a reach which is why I want to focus on Bob first.
 
genny said:
i don't think she sounds village. i find her cubs read weird.
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Actually I did wind up finding genny's justification for her kdswg vote. This is fine except that she says this after kdswg flipped wolf.
genny said:
yeah, there were several really good village-sounding posts by @kdswg today, very impressed.
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Animal Midwife said:
It's your first time, so I'll just explain, but this isn't how you convert hunt. It's as blind as assuming there are wolves on the leading wagons without knowing where a wolf counterwagon is (if one even exist). You convert hunt by removing those who have unusual progressions/interactions with OGs. I've seen wolves specifically convert those already in the POE because no one thought they'd do that.
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But you can’t pick someone that is likely to be misyeeted soon
 
genny said:
Village:
Barks
AM
Cubs
Dubz

Eel pool:
True
Bob
psv
Zenge
Stoat
kdswig
sporty

Did i forget anyone?
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genny said:
order. roughly.
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From a few hours before she voted. If I'm correctly understanding the order is most to least wolfy, why vote kdswg instead of the four people she apparently found more wolfy? kdswg was insistent on her cubs vote already at this point so the later justification somewhat falls flat.
 
BobLoblaw78 said:
So what about me feels different to my village self. And similar to my wolf self.

I’m always an easy misyeet. It mainly feels like people are focusing on my normal behavior
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I can't speak to the others, Bob, but for me it's feeling like you're an analytical person whose approach to posts includes more casting of doubt (in ways that I find easier to dispute) than seeking to build bridges and common ground. I don't see your typical play but I expect there'd be less subtle destabilization around it.

Or, as Sporty would say: tone
 
potentialsheltervet said:
From a few hours before she voted. If I'm correctly understanding the order is most to least wolfy, why vote kdswg instead of the four people she apparently found more wolfy? kdswg was insistent on her cubs vote already at this point so the later justification somewhat falls flat.
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Oh, I interpret that as kds and sporty are her thiccest eels. Basically a walk down from less wolfy to more wolfy.
 
bluestoat said:
I can't speak to the others, Bob, but for me it's feeling like you're an analytical person whose approach to posts includes more casting of doubt (in ways that I find easier to dispute) than seeking to build bridges and common ground. I don't see your typical play but I expect there'd be less subtle destabilization around it.

Or, as Sporty would say: tone
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This is more or less my reasoning as well. Also, I'm annoyed by bob's constant implication that I'm wolfing when I'm actually a villager this time.
 
bluestoat said:
To me that sounds like it'd be excessive from a fellow wolf, but genny did also vote on kds and I was going to before genny did. It seems like Barks vote was a watershed vote. So... It did clear some of my vibes around Barkley

Edit: bear in mind that my final vote was on Barks and Barks never addressed me about that, probs because one vote seemed like small potatoes
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Yeah. This should rule out Barks. There was no way wolfbarks picks kdswg over me when we are tied.
 
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BobLoblaw78 said:
So what about me feels different to my village self. And similar to my wolf self.

I’m always an easy misyeet. It mainly feels like people are focusing on my normal behavior
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It's simply your interactions with the flipped wolf and pushing psv that I'm not a fan of. Have you reviewed the VCA yet?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
It's fine that you're frustrated by that because maybe I'm not explaining my process very well, so here's my thinking.
You wanted to yeet Bob because he was inactive day one and that would've made you feel better than yeeting Dana, who you felt sorry for. Day two he came in to the thread, presumably because he wasn't as busy in real life, and you questioned him being more active day two than he was day one. You now say one thing you find not-wolfy about him is his day three activity, or lack thereof, because he wasn't posting around yeet time despite being very much in danger. He then came into the thread and posted before looking at D2 (in-game) results since he didn't know he was in trouble or that kdswg had been yoten/was a wolf.
My confusion is coming from you reading him wolfy because of inactivity and then wolfy because of activity patterns and then not wolfy because of inactivity at a specific time when the whole game a constant mention has been that inactivity (or activity) is NAI.
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D1 I mostly ignored him because he wasn't around, and after misyeeting Dana I regretted not choosing someone who, at that point, didn't seem to be particularly engaged with the game.

Then D2 he started the day off with a big burst of posting, which on its face was good, but if you look at the content of his posts they seemed to be undermining the formation of a village bloc and throwing up dust... and then he went away again, and stayed away until after the end of D2. I felt he was wolfy for this behavior, and locked in my vote about half an hour before vote close because I've developed a habit of waffling near the end of day.

The part that I think is "not wolfy" is the fact that it seems like extremely poor gameplay for a wolf to just walk away and ignore the game at the most important part of the cycle (the end of D2). He could have been around and just pretending to be away, sure, but that's too WIFOMy for my taste. AM says we can't use that as evidence, but I'm acting under the assumption that he's here because he wants to play this game.

Here's the part where I think the confusion is happening: I haven't said anything about his D3 activity. D3 started this morning, and he's been relatively "normal" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it.
 
@Truenamer let me clear it up in different terms. Day one I mean the first full day the game was open (February 3). Day two I mean February 4th. Day three is yesterday, February 5th. Therefore when I say his day three activity what I'm referring to is him being MIA yesterday and then slipping in at the end of the day.
 
Truenamer said:
Here's the part where I think the confusion is happening: I haven't said anything about his D3 activity. D3 started this morning, and he's been relatively "normal" or "neutral" or whatever you want to call it.
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Really? Because I'm down for people questioning your affiliation, but questioning reasonable questions seems more peculiar to me-- reminds me of when wolves felt me out as a place to start a wagon. I'd ask you more about why you didn't vote kds or something, or focus on how certain you are around my affiliation or AM's (earlier) and why I shouldn't think you have a village list in front of you. Something like the approach genny was taking (and then she never came back to amuse me, sad). But this might be a noobish opinion
 
bluestoat said:
Really? Because I'm down for people questioning your affiliation, but questioning reasonable questions seems more peculiar to me-- reminds me of when wolves felt me out as a place to start a wagon. I'd ask you more about why you didn't vote kds or something, or focus on how certain you are around my affiliation or AM's (earlier) and why I shouldn't think you have a village list in front of you. Something like the approach genny was taking (and then she never came back to amuse me, sad). But this might be a noobish opinion
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I think you quoted the wrong thing
 
potentialsheltervet said:
@Truenamer let me clear it up in different terms. Day one I mean the first full day the game was open (February 3). Day two I mean February 4th. Day three is yesterday, February 5th. Therefore when I say his day three activity what I'm referring to is him being MIA yesterday and then slipping in at the end of the day.
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I don't think you can fault me for misinterpreting you when literally every other reference to "days" and "nights" in this game is referring to the 36/12 cycle.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
@Truenamer let me clear it up in different terms. Day one I mean the first full day the game was open (February 3). Day two I mean February 4th. Day three is yesterday, February 5th. Therefore when I say his day three activity what I'm referring to is him being MIA yesterday and then slipping in at the end of the day.
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Oh no. Not the day mixup.
 
Truenamer said:
I don't think you can fault me for misinterpreting you when literally every other reference to "days" and "nights" in this game is referring to the 36/12 cycle.
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I'm not faulting you. I'm trying to clarify where I'm coming from.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Actually I did wind up finding genny's justification for her kdswg vote. This is fine except that she says this after kdswg flipped wolf.
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i like wolfing, and i know it sucks to get yeeted and feel like you let your team down. so why not say something nice to kdswg about it? i'd like to see her continue to play future games.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I'm not faulting you. I'm trying to clarify where I'm coming from.
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Did my point by point response help you see why I've moved around a little on Bob?

Honestly, it feels like you're bothered by the fact that my thoughts on people are changed by changes in evidence, which is... kind of the point of the game?
 
bluestoat said:
So there's never a real point where there wasn't some pressure on kds.

Bob vote seems sensible but I will want to read the thread a bit and make sure it's my own view and not sheeping because I'm tired and it looks good enough to go with
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I’m def village. So I would take a look at the vote from yesterday. Wrap your head around where the wolf vote(s) were considering there was no movement to save kdswg.
 
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