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The 7th gWWuest - Game thread!
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All it took was an outed doctor
I feel like I deserve an sdn ally award for making that happen. Because that's what allyship is about, right? Getting recognition for how good an ally you are?
I don't think the restriction is real, or at least if there is a restriction it is not what has been presented.
i think this based largely on the restriction changing at the switch from day to night, which would not be completely unheard of or impossible but would be...unconventional
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Ooo, very interesting...
The post restriction eased up slightly, so I don't know it it will continue as each phase happens or as each night happens. If it regresses randomly though, seems a little too convoluted to be a role to me at least.
| jay | 3 | beans, cg, apop |
| beans | 3 | genny, sar, moon |
| Katie | 1 | jay |
| Genny | 1 | dy |
| dy | 1 | clem |
| apop | 1 | bk |
| katie | 1 | AM |
I powered through. This was the vc when alex made her vote, so I'm inclined to say she's probably town making a naked vote--or at least she's not mafia saving anyone, and I tend to think that brand new mafia coming in and voting for a one person wagon is less likely. It's possible her pack mate(s) told her she needed to get a vote down, but in that case it's still a weird vote I think.
So anyway I'm at a moderate townread on Alex now
You have Katie in two seperate tiers.
Nobody's perfect
Fixed or close enough
It's so nice to read my Spanish textbook and only have to look up a couple of words in the more dense paragraphs.
Also now know about the term Indo-America which is neat!
Also now know about the term Indo-America which is neat!
@kaydubs @GoSpursGo @supershorty
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Day 2 Vote Tally
katie (1) - AM
SAR (1) - moonster
CeeGee (1) - Clem
3/14
Missing: RDR, chilly, Black Kat, Alex, SAR, genny, beans, katie, CeeGee, apop, basille
Vote closes TODAY, Wed. 8/26 at 9pm EDT (~14.5 hours)
katie (1) - AM
SAR (1) - moonster
CeeGee (1) - Clem
3/14
Missing: RDR, chilly, Black Kat, Alex, SAR, genny, beans, katie, CeeGee, apop, basille
Vote closes TODAY, Wed. 8/26 at 9pm EDT (~14.5 hours)
basille
Full Member
Now I always preface this with I don't have a frame of reference for playstyles like a lot of you guys do, but this is how I am currently feeling:
What made me maintain some suspicion is that their play feels distinctly non-committal and as if they are trying to soften their reads. They set up an early vote on JJJ while admitting they were only skimming 30% of the thread, and they've largely leaned on cheeky quips early on instead of building a solid case around anyone. I think what stands out most is how wide and safe their reads are. They’ve made a read list that keeps most active players comfortable, while placing suspicion on quieter players (-Beans in their recent list). Throw in the constant deferrals and fence-sitting on wagons after they already happen, and it more so reads like someone floating by.
With that my suspicions are certainly there. I am also trying to keep myself often to 3p (or is it called scum roles?) because that does throw me off.
Typically when people are talking about scum they aren't including 3p roles
reddeadrobin
Ex-Scream Queen Second Son, First Failure
Black Kat
Im smol
Oh wait wait
We know JJJ was town so if beans is wolf that would imply all remaining wolf voting JJJ? That could explain why they couldn't do anything more bring the difference between wagons up at eod
If beans wolf, and not all wolfs where voting JJJ doesn't make sense she would've been so close to a tie?
And if beans town and JJJ town is harder cuz wolfs coulve been in other wagons
Hmmmm food for thought will consider ir
Black Kat
Im smol
I was thinking about this but Im biased to believe effort kinda translates to how town u are
And she has been sporadic but put effort when she did me thinks
Idk trying to communicate with gifs takes time, but Im interested
Noted and this makes sense, i like it
I'm not really familiar with v!apop ithink since the first time we wolfed together so, can I get more insight on when has she done something like this as village? No need for full threads and quotes just examples from the top of ur mind is enough
Whats your take on beans and SAR?
Black Kat
Im smol
Felicidadeees
Who is ur designated katie reader? What makes you read Katie and RDR town?
Ill like to know ur sus people two but at your time is alright
I'm pretty sure it's apop
Who has been sus of Katie for a bit now
Depends heavily, a lot of older SDNers (like @WildZoo , I think) use scum to mean anything not town
Apop is. I think Katie's claim is fairly >rand town, and robin is a pure vibe read (which has historically been accurate, we'll see if it is this game or not).
I don't have sus people just TRs and not TRs
Yeah but maybe this is the time I get it right
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
fwiw my POE is by process of elimination right now; I haven't established a scum read on katie yet but I'm also not getting town katie
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
this is where I'm at lol
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apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
Interesting take. Do you think the town consensus is wrong?
Day 2 Vote Tally
katie (1) - AM
SAR (1) - moonster
CeeGee (1) - Clem
3/14
Missing: RDR, chilly, Black Kat, Alex, SAR, genny, beans, katie, CeeGee, apop, basille
Vote closes TODAY, Wed. 8/26 at 9pm EDT (~8.5 hours)
katie (1) - AM
SAR (1) - moonster
CeeGee (1) - Clem
3/14
Missing: RDR, chilly, Black Kat, Alex, SAR, genny, beans, katie, CeeGee, apop, basille
Vote closes TODAY, Wed. 8/26 at 9pm EDT (~8.5 hours)
Black Kat
Im smol
This is the same thing Ive been feeling about apop now and it pings me very much. Apop is playing really low effort which could explain it but at the same time I dont take her JJJ spicy take as fully town clearing. If anything genny's push was better argumented than hers. I'm still trying to solve apop but idk man is hard
That made me go back to this post, I don't think katie and apop are unpaired, although it feels like they are distancing themselves?
Black Kat
Im smol
Black Kat
Im smol
What would be the town consensus?
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
People seem universally agreeing that beans and/or katie are sus, and that am and sar are town. I'm seeing you floated as town a lot but idk how much of that was independent reading vs following jjj
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
fwiw I don't think katie "wolf theater" mcat is going to go two days into a game without interacting with a packmate, but I agree there's nothing hard unpairing here until she flips wolf
Here's my case @Clem J
No, I don't think you're on drugs. I agree that there could be something there, but I think we need one of those two to flip before we can definitively say much of anything.
It doesn't affect anything.
lean katie but need to review genny. Though I don't recall actually much sticking out
If necessary, I can pull the posts from this game that are also bothering me but I thought a direct comparison would be more useful.
Is SAR consensus village? I don't remember a lot of people saying that.
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
it seemed most people were learning town or neutral, I don't recall any clear scum reads on her
I remember the opposite.
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Black Kat
Im smol
The sus part is alright but ive seen people theorizing SAR is faking it or even 3p so idk but the rest makes sense
Still don't understand how CG read of you goes against town consensus
Black Kat
Im smol
Miss AM who are u flipping today
apoptosis09
She/her • tOSU CVM c/o 2029
Kathy plz
I read back through the last hour of D1 and compiled the things that stood out to me. The Tl;dr is that there were five major wagons: JJJ, beans, dya, katie, and Alex. We know that at least two of those players (JJJ and dya) are village (three if you count me). My guess is Alex is also village. If we are operating under the assumption that a wolf wagon was on the board, it most likely was Katie. I'm going to try to use spoiler tags to make this shorter but I'm not sure if I will be successful lol
Vote tally after Katie made her appearance and people began moving over to vote for her. This is after the JJJ, beans, and dya wagons but before the Alex wagon. Note the Katie wagon - we have two confirmed villagers on it.
JJJ's take on the wagons at this point. I tend to agree with this statement.
Updated vote tally after I jumped on the katie wagon for self-prez. Alex wagon still has not started.
Katie's treestump claim. This is what caused pretty much everyone to abandon her wagon. Which I do understand. However, I don't think this is clearing. Wolves can be treestumps too. I also noticed that there could be some of the "whiteknighting" towards me that AM mentioned along with overall comments on business.
JJJ and apop's thoughts on the treestump claim. Basically a discussion of whether or not it is possible for a wolf to be a treestump. The consensus seems to be they are usually village but not necessarily.
The vote tally once the Alex wagon began - note that the JJJ and beans wagons have stayed mostly constant except for Katie and Clem. All of the movement at EOD up to this point has been between dya, Katie, and Alex. I am tinfoiling that the wolves are kinda hiding in plain sight as the players who are mostly hopping between wagons at this point are either confirmed village or being universally townread at this point.
Katie's take on the Alex wagon. Katie's argument that we should not yeet Alex is kind of extreme to the point that I feel like she has TMI on Alex. If Katie is a wolf and knows Alex is village, she could be trying to get some cred to point back at later ("see how I tried to stop you all from yeeting this villager!")
Also worth noting that after the Alex wagon starts Katie votes for JJJ and gives multiple reasons as to why she is all of a sudden not townreading him. I'm not sure if that was frustration from being voted for or if that was coming up with reasons to vote for that wagon instead of for me or Alex, who she was defending at that point. I will say, wolf!Katie would have had to know that wouldn't look great, but if the alternative was voting for someone she had earlier townread, I do understand it.
Vote tally after Katie made her appearance and people began moving over to vote for her. This is after the JJJ, beans, and dya wagons but before the Alex wagon. Note the Katie wagon - we have two confirmed villagers on it.
JJJ's take on the wagons at this point. I tend to agree with this statement.
Updated vote tally after I jumped on the katie wagon for self-prez. Alex wagon still has not started.
Katie's treestump claim. This is what caused pretty much everyone to abandon her wagon. Which I do understand. However, I don't think this is clearing. Wolves can be treestumps too. I also noticed that there could be some of the "whiteknighting" towards me that AM mentioned along with overall comments on business.
JJJ and apop's thoughts on the treestump claim. Basically a discussion of whether or not it is possible for a wolf to be a treestump. The consensus seems to be they are usually village but not necessarily.
The vote tally once the Alex wagon began - note that the JJJ and beans wagons have stayed mostly constant except for Katie and Clem. All of the movement at EOD up to this point has been between dya, Katie, and Alex. I am tinfoiling that the wolves are kinda hiding in plain sight as the players who are mostly hopping between wagons at this point are either confirmed village or being universally townread at this point.
Katie's take on the Alex wagon. Katie's argument that we should not yeet Alex is kind of extreme to the point that I feel like she has TMI on Alex. If Katie is a wolf and knows Alex is village, she could be trying to get some cred to point back at later ("see how I tried to stop you all from yeeting this villager!")
Also worth noting that after the Alex wagon starts Katie votes for JJJ and gives multiple reasons as to why she is all of a sudden not townreading him. I'm not sure if that was frustration from being voted for or if that was coming up with reasons to vote for that wagon instead of for me or Alex, who she was defending at that point. I will say, wolf!Katie would have had to know that wouldn't look great, but if the alternative was voting for someone she had earlier townread, I do understand it.
