The WWalking Dead-Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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Because SOV claiming Vanillager, and KC soft claiming Daryl just helps wolves narrow down who they'd like to take out on mere suspicion of abilities. I'm of the opinion that Vanillagers should help keep the smokescreen up and make it confusing for wolves, not make it easier by claiming.

KC soft claiming Daryl and then being targetted for infection/kill/whatever last night makes me want to think she's village. However write up doesn't say anything about KC dying or her affiliation, just infected, so I'm not ready to call her village until I know for sure.

Kind of agree here. Not sure it's suspicious in either case, just don't much like the move.

 

[PippyPony]

Risk taking can be good or bad. Sometimes it works out (if you are Rick), sometimes it makes you dead (like most of the characters that are now dead). Courage is definitely a good thing, and it's something people admire about Rick, except for that period of time where he turned into a wimp, and everyone wanted to punch him in his stupid face.

Ingenuity/resourcefulness are probably the most valued traits.

Perfect, thank you 🙂

 

[JustPaws]

Kind of a weird question for show-watchers:

In the show, what types of behaviors are valued as "good"?

i.e. what would be some examples of character traits that are held in particularly high esteem, and what are some traits that are common in characters who are successful? And would you say those 2 categories are often the same thing, or different?

Well Rick (leader of the good guys) is thought to have a lot of integrity, but he also has no problem killing to protect those he loves. Negan (a bad guy on the show), is also very successful because he is also a leader, but he doesn't really give a **** what happens to his people, and he keeps people in line by publicly torturing people who don't follow the rules or that try to betray him in any way. Does that help at all?

The show has a a general moral compass. The wife beater dies and his wife becomes stronger after. Are they ok with torturing fellow living humans or leaving people behind to save themselves? They will probably die. Do they put others first? Do they work towards a greater good? They will be the good guys.

Success, good or bad, is usually due to strength of convictions on the show, even if they are terrible people. Everyone dies eventually, good or bad anyways...

Kind of.

I guess a more focused series of questions might be:
- is risk-taking a valued and/or rewarded behavior trait (i.e. is it seen as courage or recklessness)
- what other behaviors tend to lead to rewards of some kind and what ones get people dedded

I would say both. Risks lead to famous saves but also famous deaths by heroes and villains alike.

 

[PippyPony]

I would say both. Risks lead to famous saves but also famous deaths by heroes and villains alike.

This is interesting. Thanks!

 

[JustPaws]

This is interesting. Thanks!

That being said, apparently I am several seasons behind and didn't realize it... what season is even out right now anyways??

 

[WildZoo]

That being said, apparently I am several seasons behind and didn't realize it... what season is even out right now anyways??

Current season is 8

 

[Skimble]

Right now SOV & Mel are the ones making me side eye the most. Mel not voting at all really bothered me. It's also really weird that most of the other people who didn't vote, suddenly checked in shortly after lynch close. They are people I would like to keep a close eye on.

I agree with pippy, that SOV's comment about power roles was a bit weird. I'm not ready to vote for him because of it, yet.

 

[WildZoo]

So who here actually knows the how really well? Just so I know where to direct my questions. I am somewhere in season 4 (or 5?) and I read the first comic compendium + played the TellTale games but still feel like I just have basic knowledge, especially if the game is entirely show based (which it seems to be).

So far maybe seems like Skimble, Cheezit, and Paws know it well?

 

[Skimble]

So who here actually knows the how really well? Just so I know where to direct my questions. I am somewhere in season 4 (or 5?) and I read the first comic compendium + played the TellTale games but still feel like I just have basic knowledge, especially if the game is entirely show based (which it seems to be).

So far maybe seems like Skimble, Cheezit, and Paws know it well?

I think I know it pretty well. I missed one season pretty early on, but I'm not sure which one. I also haven't seen any of season 8.

 

[JustPaws]

So who here actually knows the how really well? Just so I know where to direct my questions. I am somewhere in season 4 (or 5?) and I read the first comic compendium + played the TellTale games but still feel like I just have basic knowledge, especially if the game is entirely show based (which it seems to be).

So far maybe seems like Skimble, Cheezit, and Paws know it well?

So I have figured out that I am part way through season 6, but haven't watched for several years. Have not read comics or anything else.

 

[dpmd]

I have watched all the shows but it is 8 seasons and there is only so much room in my mind so I don't know if I can give you the help you are looking for.

 

[JustPaws]

Right now SOV & Mel are the ones making me side eye the most. Mel not voting at all really bothered me. It's also really weird that most of the other people who didn't vote, suddenly checked in shortly after lynch close. They are people I would like to keep a close eye on.

I agree with pippy, that SOV's comment about power roles was a bit weird. I'm not ready to vote for him because of it, yet.

Just a comment on Mel's not voting. I do not see a lean based on his not voting alone. Mel has stated on thread and in pm numerous times as both wolf and village that he hates voting D1 and avoids it.
I have him on a neutral lean based on his posts, as sometimes I am reading him as village and other times he sounds super sketchy.

 

[WildZoo]

Not voting used to be a more accepted practice, and I used to do it all the time when I just didn't feel like dealing with it, or didn't feel strongly enough about anyone to justify a vote. Pretty sure on other sites no votes are a thing (someone who plays on other sites can correct me here). I'm not thinking it means much either way on its own.

Then again, cheezit is the definition of sketch, so a vote for him is probably never wrong.

 

[Skimble]

Just a comment on Mel's not voting. I do not see a lean based on his not voting alone. Mel has stated on thread and in pm numerous times as both wolf and village that he hates voting D1 and avoids it.
I have him on a neutral lean based on his posts, as sometimes I am reading him as village and other times he sounds super sketchy.

I hate D1 voting too, and I used to wait until later in the day to place a vote, but I found that doesn't help anything. Even putting up an RNG vote, or a vote for silly reason's is something. Now I generally like to put in a vote mid-day to early evening (depending on when I get online) on D1 and vote for someone that already has votes to put some pressure on and get them talking. When there is a spattering of single votes, it's hard to pick one of those people to put pressure on unless one of them already said something sketchy. That's when I may pick a silly reason to pick one person over the others.

 

[Melchizedek]

So who here actually knows the how really well? Just so I know where to direct my questions. I am somewhere in season 4 (or 5?) and I read the first comic compendium + played the TellTale games but still feel like I just have basic knowledge, especially if the game is entirely show based (which it seems to be).

So far maybe seems like Skimble, Cheezit, and Paws know it well?

Based on this, you know it better than I do. I've only watched the TV show, and even that just passively.

Paging @allieh8607 so she doesn’t try to fly under the radar, I’d like an answer please.

 

[genny]

Risk taking can be good or bad. Sometimes it works out (if you are Rick), sometimes it makes you dead (like most of the characters that are now dead). Courage is definitely a good thing, and it's something people admire about Rick, except for that period of time where he turned into a wimp, and everyone wanted to punch him in his stupid face.

Ingenuity/resourcefulness are probably the most valued traits.

So hard. Still want to.

 

[WildZoo]

I hate D1 voting too, and I used to wait until later in the day to place a vote, but I found that doesn't help anything. Even putting up an RNG vote, or a vote for silly reason's is something. Now I generally like to put in a vote mid-day to early evening (depending on when I get online) on D1 and vote for someone that already has votes to put some pressure on and get them talking. When there is a spattering of single votes, it's hard to pick one of those people to put pressure on unless one of them already said something sketchy. That's when I may pick a silly reason to pick one person over the others.

This is generally what I do too. SDN going down messed with things too, which makes yesterday even harder to analyze.

 

[JustPaws]

Ughh nooo this was the first time I was able to get on today...

My vote yesterday was a joke, but this is all you posted... Anything to say today before Lynch close?

 

[allieh8607]

Based on this, you know it better than I do. I've only watched the TV show, and even that just passively.

Paging @allieh8607 so she doesn’t try to fly under the radar, I’d like an answer please.

Excuse me? An answer to what? Who knows the show?
I watched the first couple of seasons as a procrastination tactic in vet school...haven't seen any episodes since 2015.

 

[genny]

I think y’all have been over-reacting to SOV’s statement about not revealing role info. I interpreted it completely differently: SOV thinks we’re a bunch of dumb noobs who will just tell the wolves everything unless someone older (him) and wiser (questionably him) tells us not to.

 

[JustPaws]

I think y’all have been over-reacting to SOV’s statement about not revealing role info. I interpreted it completely differently: SOV thinks we’re a bunch of dumb noobs who will just tell the wolves everything unless someone older (him) and wiser (questionably him) tells us not to.

This was my interpretation as well, but I've never played with him or really even interacted with him until this game

 

[genny]

Btw anyone got any spare bullets?

Asking for a friend.

Isn’t this how kcough got bitten? Are you trying to put a target on yourself?

 

[genny]

Lynch mel

Though I could still come back to Skimble.

 

[JustPaws]

Isn’t this how kcough got bitten? Are you trying to put a target on yourself?

Or seem village

 

[Melchizedek]

Excuse me? An answer to what? Who knows the show?
I watched the first couple of seasons as a procrastination tactic in vet school...haven't seen any episodes since 2015.

An answer to why you sat on a joke/pressure vote (Weim) when someone you could have/had somewhat analyzed (Skimble) was up for lynch?

Same question for @dpmd

I think y’all have been over-reacting to SOV’s statement about not revealing role info. I interpreted it completely differently: SOV thinks we’re a bunch of dumb noobs who will just tell the wolves everything unless someone older (him) and wiser (questionably him) tells us not to.

This was my interpretation as well, but I've never played with him or really even interacted with him until this game

This is where my mind went, and I'm glad I'm not the only one haha

 

[genny]

Or seem village

Mmmmmaybe. The phrasing is vague enough, and I would expect a villager could be more specific about what they want.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Not voting used to be a more accepted practice, and I used to do it all the time when I just didn't feel like dealing with it, or didn't feel strongly enough about anyone to justify a vote. Pretty sure on other sites no votes are a thing (someone who plays on other sites can correct me here). I'm not thinking it means much either way on its own.

Then again, cheezit is the definition of sketch, so a vote for him is probably never wrong.

Maybe it's MU that makes me weird about not voting. They really hammer at people for missing a vote.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Lynch greeney

for now

 

[kaydubs]

Day 2 Lynch Tally: Everyone’s Rabies Titers Adequate!?
SOV (1) - Pippy
allie (1) - Melby
Melby (1) - genny
greeney (1) - AM

4/16

Deadline at 10:30p Eastern (7.75 hours away)

 

[JustPaws]

Mmmmmaybe. The phrasing is vague enough, and I would expect a villager could be more specific about what they want.

I don't know. KC asked for arrows, I assumed that meant she was Darryl and village. Then she was attacked by zombies. I could see pippy asking for bullets cuz she is looking for them or to seem like she's village. I was so completely fooled by pippy last game that I'm going to assume she's wolfy every game until proven otherwise. Sorry pips.

 

[dpmd]

An answer to why you sat on a joke/pressure vote (Weim) when someone you could have/had somewhat analyzed (Skimble) was up for lynch?

Same question for @dpmd

You want me to justify not changing my vote when you others couldn't even be bothered to vote? Specifically you want me to justify not changing it to Skimble when you currently don't have enough suspicion of her to actually vote for lynching her? Are you serious?

 

[Melchizedek]

You want me to justify not changing my vote when you others couldn't even be bothered to vote? Specifically you want me to justify not changing it to Skimble when you currently don't have enough suspicion of her to actually vote for lynching her? Are you serious?

Its mostly a question for Allieh, because she had shown prior effort in analyzing Skimble, but I wanted to see how you reacted to being asked the same question.

 

[allieh8607]

An answer to why you sat on a joke/pressure vote (Weim) when someone you could have/had somewhat analyzed (Skimble) was up for lynch?

Same question for @dpmd

If you want me to answer something, maybe try asking it in the form of a question instead of just making statements and later potentially accusing me of flying under the radar. I'm not going to respond to every vote against me.
And sorry but you don't get to question me about not voting for someone over another person when you didn't place a vote at all. My vote was not a joke vote, I'm not sure where you got that idea. It was a pressure vote on someone who already had a vote and I chose it because I have a hard time reading Weim like I said. Skimble's original vote for me was misguided due to her incorrectly remembering something from the past so my original reasoning for side eyeing her was mostly negated, imo. I didn't see the need to vote for her.

 

[Crayola227]

So who here actually knows the how really well? Just so I know where to direct my questions. I am somewhere in season 4 (or 5?) and I read the first comic compendium + played the TellTale games but still feel like I just have basic knowledge, especially if the game is entirely show based (which it seems to be).

So far maybe seems like Skimble, Cheezit, and Paws know it well?

Lol, I would say I might know it best. Many seasons I've watched 4 or 5 times. I played the most popular mobile game for over a year (and ran the #2 faction for that long....). I haven't read as many of the comics as I would like. I've also read/written character analyses.

Plus if I don't know I'll head to the wiki for you. Assuming I have time since I'm visiting my friend. I get up around 11 am PST, and she gets home 4 pm PST, so in between is when I have most game time but still busy. When she gets home not so much.

 

[Animal Midwife]

why u unliking all my posts pippy

 

[JustPaws]

Lol, I would say I might know it best. Many seasons I've watched 4 or 5 times. I played the most popular mobile game for over a year (and ran the #2 faction for that long....). I haven't read as many of the comics as I would like. I've also read/written character analyses.

Damn girl!

 

[Crayola227]

OK, so I've gotten up, had tea, and read the thread. I have stuffs to do, but I think you'll be able to expect much more quote word vomit over the next few hours, just not as immediate as usual. I have a lot of thoughts on what's happened so far.

 

[JustPaws]

Lynch greeney

for now

Care to elaborate?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Care to elaborate?

I don't want a repeat of yesterday.

 

[Crayola227]

Damn girl!

I take all my interests in life too seriously.... medicine, SDN, fandoms.... sorta compulsive addictive obsessive personality I guess 😛

 

[JustPaws]

Then again, cheezit is the definition of sketch, so a vote for him is probably never wrong.

This could go on @Melchizedek 's quote list lol

 

[Melchizedek]

And sorry but you don't get to question me about not voting for someone over another person when you didn't place a vote at all.

Getting snippy with me doesn't win you village points.

My vote was not a joke vote, I'm not sure where you got that idea. It was a pressure vote on someone who already had a vote and I chose it because I have a hard time reading Weim like I said.

Don't use semantics as an argument. I used the phrase "joke/pressure" because people complain when I use "RVS."I acknowledge that your vote was pressure. What did that pressure gain you? Any insights you have now that you want to share?

Skimble's original vote for me was misguided due to her incorrectly remembering something from the past so my original reasoning for side eyeing her was mostly negated, imo. I didn't see the need to vote for her.

I'm just not buying this, I can easily see you being a wolf and being okay with a tie potentially killing two people

or a little more tin-foil-hat, You and Skimble are both wolves and Skimble's original vote for you was a way to distance herself from you, but she caught heat for voting you and the phrasing of her vote, so you stayed on Weim to potentially keep her from getting lynched.

This could go on @Melchizedek 's quote list lol

It will when I'm not mobile haha.

 

[WildZoo]

No one is standing out to me yet today. Could the real wolves please stand up?

 

[PippyPony]

why u unliking all my posts pippy

I generally do not rescind favor once it has been bestowed, but maybe I clicked or unclicked something by mistake?

 

[Crayola227]

You're both making me reaaaally nervous about how loosely you're playing with your role/abilities.



Elaborate?



With the exception of Pippy's vote on Skimble, all the other votes were either random, for shiggles, or pressure to get people talking. I don't like voting for any of those three reasons. I had reasoning that Skimble's initial vote was weird (a thought already expressed by Pippy), but it was flimsy so I didn't vote there right away. Since we were potentially looking at a tie/wafflefest; I would have voted on the only (albiet weak) reasoning I had. Skimble broke the tie, so I found it unnecessary to vote especially since I'd already registered my complaints about her on thread.

As one of our resident recovered late voters, and still a total waffler, I've been told that registering "concerns" on thread is not like putting your money where your mouth is by actually voting. It's not for nothing, but still...

If everyone decided they weren't going to engage in the unpleasant business of RVS then no one would get lynched D1, or it would be more of a ****show than it already is. I get that it's a data point on yourself that can get wrongly used against you later, but I don't see why others are expected to put themselves out there while you hold back that info on yourself.

I get this is all a personal play style type situation, but I'm still going to express my extreme displeasure. Obviously we can WIFOM ourselves all day long about your choice to do this, which is also why I find it unhelpful to village even if it's not clear how wolfy this move by you is.

I've made similar comments where I felt my vote didn't "matter" in that it didn't affect outcome, that's pretty common in WW. I still think you should be expected to commit yourself by voting.

 

[PippyPony]

Isn’t this how kcough got bitten? Are you trying to put a target on yourself?

Maybe I am, maybe I'm not

Maybe I'm just a risk taker sometimes 😛

 

[PippyPony]

I don't know. KC asked for arrows, I assumed that meant she was Darryl and village. Then she was attacked by zombies. I could see pippy asking for bullets cuz she is looking for them or to seem like she's village.

Or I could be asking for unrelated reasons

I was so completely fooled by pippy last game that I'm going to assume she's wolfy every game until proven otherwise. Sorry pips.

I am completely fine with these pocket attempts you're throwing at me 😛

 

[Crayola227]

Normally am not big on rezzes as wolf concerns, but given that this is The Walking Dead, which I would venture to guess* means dead people coming back = bad, I'm assuming we should lynch Weim before end game.

Edit: forgot to specify I was talking about Weim

*Again, actually have a shocking lack of knowledge about this show other than the fact that it's hella popular and apparently this season kinda sucks

Don't get me started on this season.

Spoiler: I'm a hard core fan of all that is TWD

It's been criticized for a lot of the same things the Farm got criticized for, and even then, I don't think it's been as bad as that on many fronts, and I don't think either season even for all that have been terrible. A story with such a sweeping scope is going to have chapters that are up and down. As Bad Santa says, "They can't all be winners, can they?" There's been low point and high points just for this season and for the whole show.

I expect that WM came back a zombie although it's not explicitly stated.

Thing is, on the show, we're surrounded by tons and tons of zombies at all times, so many that we can't expect to kill them all, and the intro write up, and the show, says that the real danger are human beings.

I'm not really sure what we should do with zombies at this point, re-lynching seems like it might be a waste of time?

Actually, it seems like lynching a human kills them, which lets them come back a zombie, because it seems we didn't finish them off so it couldn't happen?

It seems like the list of infected (KC right now) we don't really know what will happen. In the lore, she'll come back a zombie unless we finish her off. In the show, when you know someone is infected, the good guys will also see to it that when you die you don't come back a zombie. She didn't really make it clear if she was going to permanently die or come back as a zombie, and I suspect there's more to the game as far as how that happens. Possibly since she's under the care of the village her death will be permanent.

I agree that we need to figure out what to do with players that get zombied.

 

[PippyPony]

Don't get me started on this season.

Spoiler: I'm a hard core fan of all that is TWD

It's been criticized for a lot of the same things the Farm got criticized for, and even then, I don't think it's been as bad as that on many fronts, and I don't think either season even for all that have been terrible. A story with such a sweeping scope is going to have chapters that are up and down. As Bad Santa says, "They can't all be winners, can they?" There's been low point and high points just for this season and for the whole show.

I expect that WM came back a zombie although it's not explicitly stated.

Thing is, on the show, we're surrounded by tons and tons of zombies at all times, so many that we can't expect to kill them all, and the intro write up, and the show, says that the real danger are human beings.

I'm not really sure what we should do with zombies at this point, re-lynching seems like it might be a waste of time?

Actually, it seems like lynching a human kills them, which lets them come back a zombie, because it seems we didn't finish them off so it couldn't happen?

It seems like the list of infected (KC right now) we don't really know what will happen. In the lore, she'll come back a zombie unless we finish her off. In the show, when you know someone is infected, the good guys will also see to it that when you die you don't come back a zombie. She didn't really make it clear if she was going to permanently die or come back as a zombie, and I suspect there's more to the game as far as how that happens. Possibly since she's under the care of the village her death will be permanent.

I agree that we need to figure out what to do with players that get zombied.

Is coming back as a zombie different from being infected? (In the show, I mean.)

 

[PippyPony]

And to be clear, here -- I'm not advocating for re-lynching Weim any time soon. Or lynching KC. I'm saying it would probably be a good idea to do that before end game, though.