We Can't Tell You Who WWe Are: Animorphs Game Thread

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Ceke2002 said:
Oh, okay, sorry different time zone I get confused when people are saying 'day' 'night', and it's night for me most of the time for a day cycle, and day for a night cycle. 'Tis a bit muddling sometimes, thanks for the confirmation. 🙂

Lynch RM

edited for reasons: I suspect RM may be a convert based on forced role reveal injuries in line with the Crayak theme.
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Let me get this straight. You are implying there is a wolf running around threatening people with a low power gun. They are telling their victims, "I'll only hurt you if you convert!"

Your theory is just genius.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Before we lynch kcough and trust STL, I need to learn more. Why do we believe STL @Zensing ? Were you told STL's name in your role or are you just linked somehow? Cause if I were STL I would lie my butt off.
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Quick post since it's another surgery lab day, but at least I have time to get on between classes today. Nope, role claim is just what STL said. He could be lying. I'll post what I asked him, with his "responses" in italics

Night 1: (1) Can you PM? If you cannot, you could like Trilt's intro write-up post. Like

(2) Are you Tobias trapped in hawk form? If you want to answer "yes" but can't PM, you could like Trilt's resources page on the 1st page. No like

Night 2:
  • Like Trilt's resource page if you are one of the Auxiliary Animorphs. Right now, I can't remember if one of them was mute because of their other disabilities/injuries. No like
  • Like LIS's post offering to do a write-up if you'd like me to stop asking about your role 😛 No like
  • Like LIS's popcorn-eating post in asterisks (between lynch close and write-up) if you need or want to be lynched to get powers Wasn't sure if that was what you wanted to communicate when you liked SOV's post No like
  • Like my post about there being chaos or other weird factions if you can cast a lynch vote at this point, even anonymously. I don't think you cast a vote yesterday or today (at least, you didn't show up in the lynch tally), so I'm wondering if you can't vote as well as can't talk. No like
  • like the post I'm about to make about your picture being Ellmist if you are the Ellmist. Like
  • like Deva's post around my avatar (surrounded by ~) if you want me to share the results of these conversations on the main thread. If you do NOT like that post, I'll assume that you want to keep your answers private. Like

I preface each night questions with a request for him to like a specific post of mine if he wants to answer questions. That way, I know that no like = no and that he's not liking posts in response to someone else's questions in my group. I always assumed other people in my group were playing a similar game with STL, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting a response meant for another group member. On both nights, STL signaled that he was answering these/my questions.

Back off until 6pm ET-ish (whenever dental lab gets done)
 
Kam325 said:
Happy Birthday, Trilt! Lynch Tally

May all your dreams come true.

(I'm mobile only today and this is the best that I could find, so just ignore Cumberbach and pretend that's your lovely mug instead. And one fewer toe. It's the thought that counts?)

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Genny (1)- SOV

Get your butts lynching, the birthday girl demands it.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
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StartingoverVet said:
Both STL and kcough liked my post about not being sure about STL's role claim.
That is a mind ****

I am just gonna ignore the 2 of them for now. Somehow I doubt it would be that easy to lynch either of them.

I have to get a lynch vote in, cause I will be out most of the day..

lynch genny.

still just trying to get a read on her.
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I'm actually trying to play a little differently, since speaking up so much tends to get me lynched or killed pretty early. I think that's what's setting off alarms for you. I think my contributions so far have been very villagery.
 
ResoluteMike said:
Let me get this straight. You are implying there is a wolf running around threatening people with a low power gun. They are telling their victims, "I'll only hurt you if you convert!"

Your theory is just genius.
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Actually that wasn't my theory, but I'm going to unlynch you because STL liking your post may be an indication that I'm either on the right or the wrong path and that makes me unsure of which exactly.

Unlynch RM

And yes I will probably end up doing an RNG lynch unless evidence presents itself to the contrary, I am awake again thanks to idiot neighbours, and currently nursing a post ictal kitty - I honestly don't have the concentration right now to try and theorise a lynch properly.
 
So, while my Ligeia kitty gets some much needed sleep on one of her special 'I refuse to sleep anywhere else' spots in the room, and before my brain turns to complete mush, a few thoughts/questions.

If we're assuming Crayak is part of this game, then does it follow that we are looking for howlers?

I am a little rusty on the source material, so Crayak created the howlers, how exactly?

What character or characters in the source material would create or carry a low powered gun weapon similar to what those thus targeted have described?

edited to add:

RNG dice roll Lynch WZ as well
 
Ceke2002 said:
So, while my Ligeia kitty gets some much needed sleep on one of her special 'I refuse to sleep anywhere else' spots in the room, and before my brain turns to complete mush, a few thoughts/questions.

If we're assuming Crayak is part of this game, then does it follow that we are looking for howlers?

I am a little rusty on the source material, so Crayak created the howlers, how exactly?

What character or characters in the source material would create or carry a low powered gun weapon similar to what those thus targeted have described?

edited to add:

RNG dice roll Lynch WZ as well
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For some reason I think you are missing the gun is an item. That means it is randomly being used by whomever receives it. It doesn't belong to one person in particular.
 
There are no original wolves, so either Crayak is not a wolf (chaos, maybe?) or the silenced players are red herrings, or they could be wolf leaning, or . . . ? Would any other characters be a more natural chaos choice?
 
Lupin21 said:
For some reason I think you are missing the gun is an item. That means it is randomly being used by whomever receives it. It doesn't belong to one person in particular.
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Ah, yes, okay, I did miss this. Thank you.

Still wondering how converts are being created, if indeed that is what is happening, with no original wolves. Crayak created the howlers in the Animorphs, if Crayak is a part of the game mechanics (assuming not a red herring) then is that who is responsible for the conversions/creation of howlers/whatever other theories people want to throw into the mix.

I am trying to explain my thought processes as best I can right now.
 
Okay, that's about as much game theorising as I can manage for the moment. My little Ligeia kitty is up and about again after her sleep so I'm going to spend some time with her (I like her to have a comforting presence around for a while after she's had one of her seizures).

One thing people should know about the way my style of game play is developing. Yes I am sometimes off target and off tap if I'm trying to play when my eyes are basically hanging outside my head for lack of sleep, but I theorise, and I ask questions, and I lynch sometimes based on what may seem like the flimsiest or most random of observations, but I do it to see what sort of response(s) I get. Some responses ring truer than others, it's not a perfect system, but I tend to look harder at those people whose responses seem a little off.

I suspect RM as a potential convert/creation/howler/wolf/anti-villager, call it what you will. Not because of the forced role reveal, with the part about it being an item that I was missing before, but because there's something about RMs responses that seem off to me. I also suspect Genny as a potential future convert et al for the same reasons.

I've already said I won't lynch RM just yet because of STL's like to my previous post indicating I may need more information before committing to a lynch, and I really don't have the energy to theorise on anyone else as a suitable candidate right now so my RNG lynch remains.
 
Whomever has the gun tonight should maybe look into STL or kcough since they are both claiming the same role and I don't think that is possible. Though would a gun have any affect on gods? I'm thinking probably not, so that item may not work.

I know nothing of the source material (obviously from previous comments) but I don't think they could both be Ellmist, and I don't think either is faking given the whole 2 post minimum thing. I also am not super comfortable with the whole "no wolves d1" thing. I feel we definitely had one n1 because we had a kill and last night seemed likely to be a conversion.
 
Jilary said:
Whomever has the gun tonight should maybe look into STL or kcough since they are both claiming the same role and I don't think that is possible. Though would a gun have any affect on gods? I'm thinking probably not, so that item may not work.
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Agreed, it's at least worth a shot (no pun intended). We should also be thinking about questions to ask the mods on specific game mechanics for whomever has that 'call to god' item next - try and nail down some information that might be of use.
 
Jilary said:
Whomever has the gun tonight should maybe look into STL or kcough since they are both claiming the same role and I don't think that is possible. Though would a gun have any affect on gods? I'm thinking probably not, so that item may not work.
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I can see it now. Someone points the gun at STL and demands his name. Then STL says, "Are you a god?" and sics the Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man after the poor fool.
 
From the sounds of it, doesn't seem to give affiliation though, just name. While I suppose it will be helpful to confirm he is who he claims, it won't tell us how trustworthy he is. Guess we shall see though.
 
Ceke2002 said:
Agreed, it's at least worth a shot (no pun intended). We should also be thinking about questions to ask the mods on specific game mechanics for whomever has that 'call to god' item next - try and nail down some information that might be of use.
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Agree. I personally am skeeved out by this "wolf-leaning villager" thing...as someone above said, there obviously HAD to be someone who killed on N1, but there were supposedly no wolves in the game at that point. It would be nice to know something about conversions...how many, how often, etc.
 
Lupin21 said:
From the sounds of it, doesn't seem to give affiliation though, just name. While I suppose it will be helpful to confirm he is who he claims, it won't tell us how trustworthy he is. Guess we shall see though.
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STL and kcough are claiming the same role though, and it would tell us who is telling the truth.
guisantes said:
Agree. I personally am skeeved out by this "wolf-leaning villager" thing...as someone above said, there obviously HAD to be someone who killed on N1, but there were supposedly no wolves in the game at that point. It would be nice to know something about conversions...how many, how often, etc.
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I think zen's question was how many wolves we had starting the game, so technically the beginning of d1. I believe by n1 we had at least one wolf.
 
ResoluteMike said:
My injury was described the same way as WTF. Makes me wonder if there is a high setting?
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There may be? It at least has a chance of failure. See below...
WhtsThFrequency said:
To be fair, specifially it said that someone threatened me, demanding my role name, and I was injured. It does NOT specifically say that I actually gave it up, although that might be just mod semantics.
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Ok just confirming what I was told, which was that your role name was not revealed.
 
WildZoo said:
There may be? It at least has a chance of failure. See below...

Ok just confirming what I was told, which was that your role name was not revealed.
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Interesting.

Maybe if you turned up the power you would have a better chance of getting a name, but more likely to injure someone more seriously or even kill them.
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
Interesting.

Maybe if you turned up the power you would have a better chance of getting a name, but more likely to injure someone more seriously or even kill them.
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It kind of sounds like it based on the item description? Not sure though.
 
Is there any reason why whoever has the gun, assuming it's an item that gets passed along on a cycle by cycle basis, cannot speak up and say what information they ascertained with it? (perhaps with an 'oops, sorry I injured you' caveat on the side?).

If I am given the gun item on say N-5, then what's to stop me from just admitting that on day 6 and saying 'this is what I was able to find out'?
 
Ceke2002 said:
Is there any reason why whoever has the gun, assuming it's an item that gets passed along on a cycle by cycle basis, cannot speak up and say what information they ascertained with it? (perhaps with an 'oops, sorry I injured you' caveat on the side?).

If I am given the gun item on say N-5, then what's to stop me from just admitting that on day 6 and saying 'this is what I was able to find out'?
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Not in particular, no. It was why I was curious why the person who presumably used it on RM didn't speak up.
 
WildZoo said:
Not in particular, no. It was why I was curious why the person who presumably used it on RM didn't speak up.
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Yes, I was wondering why that was as well. Did a silenced member use the gun on RM?
 
If a silenced member did use the gun on RM was it for purposes of information gathering only?

Like if yes.
 
If a silenced member did use the gun on RM was it for purposes other than information gathering.

Like if Yes.
 
If a silenced member did use the gun on RM for purposes other than just information gathering, was it an attack?

Like if Yes.
 
If a silenced member did use the gun on RM for purposes other than just information gathering, was it a conversion?

Like if Yes.

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Okay, I think that's easy enough to follow and covers everything.
 
unlynch sov

lynch ceke

You keep trying to make things fit in a way that doesn't make sense. And when you get new info, you just keep trying. Maybe it's just that you're a new player. But maybe it's because you're a convertible character
 
dyachei said:
unlynch sov

lynch ceke

You keep trying to make things fit in a way that doesn't make sense. And when you get new info, you just keep trying. Maybe it's just that you're a new player. But maybe it's because you're a convertible character
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Not convertible, not as far as I've been told at least. I started the game as a villager, and was not told anything about having wolf leanings or conversion tendencies. I've already stated if I am converted I will out myself and take another convert with me if I can. I stand by that. I took a risk for the village last game and it cost me my life, there's no reason not to believe I won't do the same again this game if I have to.

And how am I trying to make things fit in a way that doesn't make sense? Other players, Zensing, for example, are using a code system to ask questions of the silenced players. There is an item in the game that WZ questioned the use of regarding why nobody spoke up when it was first used on RM. To me that opens a potential line of questioning, that's not the same to me as trying to force a square peg into a round hole. :shrug:
 
you just keep trying to make RM work for you. He may or may not be a wolf. I find the logic questionable and you seem to immediately think it's damning.
 
And again I really don't understand how you're supposed to play this game without trying to gather information. One new piece of information does not always a whole picture make either, it might lean you more one way or another, but there may still be the need to follow up that information for further clarification.
 
dyachei said:
you just keep trying to make RM work for you. He may or may not be a wolf. I find the logic questionable and you seem to immediately think it's damning.
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I suspect him, I didn't say I'd absolutely made up my mind, which is why I unlynched him and stated that I wanted more information. I asked a question regarding whether or not there was anything to stop the person with the role revealing gun item from stating that they had used the weapon and what information they had gathered from it; WZ then posited a musing on why no one had stepped forward when the item was used on RM. To me this indicated a potential use of the item by a silenced player and opened a line of questioning to follow. The questions are designed to clear as much as condemn as well.
 
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