What are Mayo students like, in general?

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I know, weird question..

But I want to apply there and not risk spending 4 years with the same 40 people if I am not confident I will be able to become really close to them
 
I'm confused -- why would Mayo students in particular be different from anyone else?
 
I know, weird question..

But I want to apply there and not risk spending 4 years with the same 40 people if I am not confident I will be able to become really close to them

I'm biased as I'll be one soon enough, but let me just say that there were two schools at which applicants and students on the interview trail were obviously different than the others to which I applied: Mayo and JHU.

Applicants at Mayo were 80% VERY cool.

Applicants at JHU were 50% VERY cool.

Students at both were awesome in their own way, but Mayo was VERY well rounded and representative of a diverse selection process. JHU was just not as tight knit. In the classroom, the dynamic was very different at both, but I felt that the learning atmosphere at Mayo was MUCH more open. People actually asked good questions and had interaction with the physician teaching the class. People seemed to work very well together, and I know for a fact that they play well together too. Hopkins was bigger and felt like some college classes I've attended. Very quiet.

That all being said, you won't be hurting anyone but yourself by not applying. You can always check it out and decide its not for you, but you'll never know if you don't go.

:luck:
 
I'm biased as I'll be one soon enough, but let me just say that there were two schools at which applicants and students on the interview trail were obviously different than the others to which I applied: Mayo and JHU.

Applicants at Mayo were 80% VERY cool.

Applicants at JHU were 50% VERY cool.

Students at both were awesome in their own way, but Mayo was VERY well rounded and representative of a diverse selection process. JHU was just not as tight knit. In the classroom, the dynamic was very different at both, but I felt that the learning atmosphere at Mayo was MUCH more open. People actually asked good questions and had interaction with the physician teaching the class. People seemed to work very well together, and I know for a fact that they play well together too. Hopkins was bigger and felt like some college classes I've attended. Very quiet.

That all being said, you won't be hurting anyone but yourself by not applying. You can always check it out and decide its not for you, but you'll never know if you don't go.

:luck:

Yes, you are biased. No, they aren't any different.
 
They're better than the Miracle Whip students, that's for sure.
 
Yes, you are biased. No, they aren't any different.

I'm not biased about JHU students carrying themselves in a manner not very similar to students at some of the SUNY schools at which I interviewed.

There were HUGE differences in the class composition on average, at least at the interview days I attended.

This would go for Mayo as well.
 
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They're better than the Miracle Whip students, that's for sure.

To clarify, I'm not pretending one group of students at school X are better than those at school Y.

When I say 50% applicants at JHU were very cool vs. 80% at Mayo, for example, I can see where this can come across, but I only mean to point out that on my interview day I met many more applicants that seemed less "laid back" (whatever that may mean) at one than the other.

Also, the schools have VERY different interview systems and they create varying levels of stress. This could very well be a factor in my personal experience.

I am saying though that schools have different objectives during the process of admitting students, and that those differences in process create a class that fulfills each school's agenda.

A state school's class in Mississippi (my original home state) is sure going to be a whole lot different than a state school's class in the West.

There are differences in culture, mission, and class-size that certainly create dynamics that can not be denied.

Not better, just different.
 
I'm confused -- why would Mayo students in particular be different from anyone else?

first post i looked at.

i only singled out mayo because other schools often have a much larger class size, simply increasing the probability of finding someone you can get along with very well
 
I'm not biased about JHU students carrying themselves in a manner not very similar to students at some of the SUNY schools at which I interviewed.

There were HUGE differences in the class composition on average, at least at the interview days I attended.

This would go for Mayo as well.

Seriously? This statement is undeniably biased. You even mention a sampling bias in the the second sentence.

I'm happy you like your school-I wish everyone could be so fortunate. But don't go believing that these groups were somehow more "cool" than students at other schools. Come on now.
 
Seriously? This statement is undeniably biased. You even mention a sampling bias in the the second sentence.

I'm happy you like your school-I wish everyone could be so fortunate. But don't go believing that these groups were somehow more "cool" than students at other schools. Come on now.

If he thinks they were cooler than other classes, it is his subjective opinion and it's not a slight against you or anyone else. Everyone has different things they're looking for, different things they like and different people they mesh with on a personal level. It's not like he was saying everyone at Mayo was awesomesauce and everyone everywhere else was a square.
 
Seriously? This statement is undeniably biased. You even mention a sampling bias in the the second sentence.

I'm happy you like your school-I wish everyone could be so fortunate. But don't go believing that these groups were somehow more "cool" than students at other schools. Come on now.

You are reading way too much into what I wrote. I never said one group of MATRICULATED students was more "cool" than the other.

I was only trying to point out to the OP that Mayo goes out of its way to account for the small class size by getting a diverse group together.

This is not a statistical analysis of med school class make-up.

I'm curious though, have you ever been to Mayo?

The culture of the place is different, and it is that culture, I would argue, that makes the class the way it is, but that's really not my point anyhow.

There is a difference that will be obvious to the OP once he/she visits.

If you couldn't tell a difference in the schools that you were visiting, I wonder what you WOULD base your school selection on.
 
If he thinks they were cooler than other classes, it is his subjective opinion and it's not a slight against you or anyone else. Everyone has different things they're looking for, different things they like and different people they mesh with on a personal level. It's not like he was saying everyone at Mayo was awesomesauce and everyone everywhere else was a square.

I really doubt anyone is taking offense to those comments. The point is that it's pretty juvenile to categorize students based on the school they come from. And it's borderline disturbing that people are actually buying into this hype. You're going to meet all types at all schools-that's life.
 
I really doubt anyone is taking offense to those comments. The point is that it's pretty juvenile to categorize students based on the school they come from. And it's borderline disturbing that people are actually buying into this hype. You're going to meet all types at all schools-that's life.

I actually agree with you. I was not trying to say that the "students from" one place are different as much as some schools attract a certain type of student and select based on what they want.

I am NOT playing the SDN-typical game of "the students at school X are better because they go to school X' type game. I'm just passing along my personal observations of two schools that seemed different to me. I can only speak to the schools I visited, and these two stuck out as different.

I agree there are "all types" at all schools. Different places just affect people in different ways, and perhaps that is what I was seeing. :shrug:
 
I really doubt anyone is taking offense to those comments. The point is that it's pretty juvenile to categorize students based on the school they come from. And it's borderline disturbing that people are actually buying into this hype. You're going to meet all types at all schools-that's life.

IMO you're being uselessly argumentative ITT. Different schools will have different students, both in terms of the average student and in terms of overall class diversity. Everyone talks about "fit." Go where you fit in.
 
I actually agree with you. I was not trying to say that the "students from" one place are different as much as some schools attract a certain type of student and select based on what they want.

I am NOT playing the SDN-typical game of "the students at school X are better because they go to school X' type game. I'm just passing along my personal observations of two schools that seemed different to me. I can only speak to the schools I visited, and these two stuck out as different.

I agree there are "all types" at all schools. Different places just affect people in different ways, and perhaps that is what I was seeing. :shrug:

I'll give you that.

My guess is that if you went on a different day to the SUNY interviews, you'd have met people similar to those at Mayo. Either that, or you were so stoked about your Mayo interview, that they could have told you anything about their school and you would've loved it. The latter is completely understandable-it is Mayo after all!

Best of luck to you and I'm glad you're happy with your school!
 
IMO you're being uselessly argumentative ITT. Different schools will have different students, both in terms of the average student and in terms of overall class diversity. Everyone talks about "fit." Go where you fit in.

Ouch...now I'm taking offense 😀

I might have agreed with you before I had some experiences where I interacted with med students from schools all over the country (namely, my research year and match interviews). We're remarkably similar, outside of the inter-class variation you'd expect. I think "fit" is more about location and personal bias than the student population of the school in question.
 
Ouch...now I'm taking offense 😀

I might have agreed with you before I had some experiences where I interacted with med students from schools all over the country (namely, my research year and match interviews). We're remarkably similar, outside of the inter-class variation you'd expect. I think "fit" is more about location and personal bias than the student population of the school in question.

I also think culture at an institution defines the student body just as much as the individual students do. And cultures at different places vary a lot.
 
I actually agree with you. I was not trying to say that the "students from" one place are different as much as some schools attract a certain type of student and select based on what they want.

I am NOT playing the SDN-typical game of "the students at school X are better because they go to school X' type game. I'm just passing along my personal observations of two schools that seemed different to me. I can only speak to the schools I visited, and these two stuck out as different.

I agree there are "all types" at all schools. Different places just affect people in different ways, and perhaps that is what I was seeing. :shrug:


you are fighting a battle here you cannot win. i understand what you wrote, but students will defend their school to the death. might as well quit trying, even though i think you made some valid points and you should be free to express your opinion
 
you are fighting a battle here you cannot win. i understand what you wrote, but students will defend their school to the death. might as well quit trying, even though i think you made some valid points and you should be free to express your opinion

There hasn't been a single person/post on here that has defended their school against the supposed attack you've alluded to. You may be inserting your own strawman into this debate.
 
There hasn't been a single person/post on here that has defended their school against the supposed attack you've alluded to. You may be inserting your own strawman into this debate.

no one said anyone was being attacked. bamtuba seemed to be taking defense mode however. regardless, im out of this. peace
 
Seriously? This statement is undeniably biased. You even mention a sampling bias in the the second sentence.

I'm happy you like your school-I wish everyone could be so fortunate. But don't go believing that these groups were somehow more "cool" than students at other schools. Come on now.

IMO you're being uselessly argumentative ITT. Different schools will have different students, both in terms of the average student and in terms of overall class diversity. Everyone talks about "fit." Go where you fit in.

I agree. Are you actually trying to argue that student distributions are the same at all schools? Because admissions committees (especially at really selective schools like Mayo) get to select their class, it's typical to find a certain type of "culture" at the schools, whether it was the one the admissions committee intended or not.

It's not biased to express a preference. It would seem reasonable that, given that he found Mayo the best, that's where he attended. You're being way unnecessarily argumentative.
 
I agree. Are you actually trying to argue that student distributions are the same at all schools? Because admissions committees (especially at really selective schools like Mayo) get to select their class, it's typical to find a certain type of "culture" at the schools, whether it was the one the admissions committee intended or not.

It's not biased to express a preference. It would seem reasonable that, given that he found Mayo the best, that's where he attended. You're being way unnecessarily argumentative.

I sort of agree with the concept that med students are pretty similar no matter what school they go to (except maybe cclcm) simply bc they're all going thru more or less the same experiences.
 
There hasn't been a single person/post on here that has defended their school against the supposed attack you've alluded to. You may be inserting your own strawman into this debate.

There's no reason to have a "debate" about this at all. If you notice, you're the only person who seems to care about what bamtuba said...it doesn't matter that you don't think you're being argumentative or on the offense. That is the way you have come off.
 
I agree. Are you actually trying to argue that student distributions are the same at all schools? Because admissions committees (especially at really selective schools like Mayo) get to select their class, it's typical to find a certain type of "culture" at the schools, whether it was the one the admissions committee intended or not.

In terms of personalities? Yes. Obviously not with regard to other objective factors.

I think you're giving the admissions committee, especially the interviewing process, waaay too much credit. People very often mask their personalities to get into schools. Haven't you noticed this? ADCOMs simply can't screen for this type of thing no matter how good they are or how selective they can afford to be.

Now I'll buy that to some extent certain personalities may be attracted to certain schools, but considering what a music chairs mess this process is, you're unlikely to fill a whole class with just these types. This process is fueled by hope and desperation. It's rare that someone can be choosy.

It's not biased to express a preference.

I googled "definition: bias" and the first hit was " A preference or an inclination." You have to find this at least a little bit funny.

You're being way unnecessarily argumentative.

I'm sorry you feel that way.
 
There's no reason to have a "debate" about this at all. If you notice, you're the only person who seems to care about what bamtuba said...

We're clearly on different wavelengths here. This is exactly the venue for such a debate. BTW, I have absolutely no problem with being the "only person" who cares about something. Conversely, having more people on your side doesn't make you right. If you're interested in this discussion, I recommend you put information on the table rather than bring up superfluous information about the poster.

it doesn't matter that you don't think you're being argumentative or on the offense. That is the way you have come off.

Where did you get this idea? Of course I'm arguing-that's what a debate is.
 
In terms of personalities? Yes. Obviously not with regard to other objective factors.

I think you're giving the admissions committee, especially the interviewing process, waaay too much credit. People very often mask their personalities to get into schools. Haven't you noticed this? ADCOMs simply can't screen for this type of thing no matter how good they are or how selective they can afford to be.

Now I'll buy that to some extent certain personalities may be attracted to certain schools, but considering what a music chairs mess this process is, you're unlikely to fill a whole class with just these types. This process is fueled by hope and desperation. It's rare that someone can be choosy.



I googled "definition: bias" and the first hit was " A preference or an inclination." You have to find this at least a little bit funny.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Interesting. www.meriam-webster.com Definition: Bias

3 a : bent, tendency b : an inclination of temperament or outlook; especially : a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgment : prejudice c : an instance of such prejudice d (1) : deviation of the expected value of a statistical estimate from the quantity it estimates (2) : systematic error introduced into sampling or testing by selecting or encouraging one outcome or answer over others

This clearly shows that the use of bias suggests unreasoned judgment and prejudice/error. I'm sorry, but simply preferring one option to another does not mean that your decision was implicitly biased, at least not in the way you were using the word. If that were so, humans would be incapable of making any decisions without bias, and such a situation would make such a word superfluous as there would therefore be no situation without bias.

Don't be sorry, I'm not offended and I wasn't attacking you. I just find your behavior unnecessarily combative and not very constructive for what the OP was asking.


I sort of agree with the concept that med students are pretty similar no matter what school they go to (except maybe cclcm) simply bc they're all going thru more or less the same experiences.

Sure we're all human so you'll always find similar people throughout. However, there are obvious differences in the cultures at different schools. Especially when you have small class sizes, there simply isn't enough space to allow an even spread so you get "clumps" of personalities and tendencies. Consider how much people talk about "fit" and all that stuff.


We're clearly on different wavelengths here. This is exactly the venue for such a debate. BTW, I have absolutely no problem with being the "only person" who cares about something. Conversely, having more people on your side doesn't make you right. If you're interested in this discussion, I recommend you put information on the table rather than bring up superfluous information about the poster.



Where did you get this idea? Of course I'm arguing-that's what a debate is.

True, but perhaps it should compel one to examine one's position and question why you have so few advocates and whether you are in fact in the wrong. Of course you may in fact be right and everyone else wrong, but justifying these occurrences in that way often lead to bigotry and denial. Not to say you have shown either, just some thoughts of mine.
 
I know, weird question..

But I want to apply there and not risk spending 4 years with the same 40 people if I am not confident I will be able to become really close to them

I think they are people, you know the generic kind with 2 feet, 2 hands, a head and depending on sex either a penis or vagina. I would assume some hair and maybe a tatoo. I'd also say 50-60% of your class will be white, 20% asians/indians and the rest minorities. From that 40 I'd venture 50% are cool, some are huge dicks and cutthroat bitches while the rest probably just trying to get by. You're probably gonna make 1 or 2 close friends and acquaintances with the rest that you see occasionally but are cordial with during group projects.

Moral: no one knows what they're gonna be in but you'll never know till you try so buck up and find out.
 
Mayo heavily values community service, I think more than anything else, while weighing some other traditional factors less. In fact, I believe it's an unofficial requirement in their admissions process. They also like applicants who can teach well. Both of these characteristics fall in line with the institution's strongly patient-oriented philosophy.
 
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jerks, every last one of them. no, not really.....they are quite nice. actually, come to think of it, I've never met one.
 
To clarify, I'm not pretending one group of students at school X are better than those at school Y.

When I say 50% applicants at JHU were very cool vs. 80% at Mayo, for example, I can see where this can come across, but I only mean to point out that on my interview day I met many more applicants that seemed less "laid back" (whatever that may mean) at one than the other.

Also, the schools have VERY different interview systems and they create varying levels of stress. This could very well be a factor in my personal experience.

I am saying though that schools have different objectives during the process of admitting students, and that those differences in process create a class that fulfills each school's agenda.

A state school's class in Mississippi (my original home state) is sure going to be a whole lot different than a state school's class in the West.

There are differences in culture, mission, and class-size that certainly create dynamics that can not be denied.

Not better, just different.

No worries, I just wanted to make the joke.
 
Wow, this place exploded once I left.

Yeah, if I seem defensive, that's just the exhaustion taking over with too much time spent at work.

Nothing a four day weekend, maybe a beer or two, along with some Office Space viewings won't fix. 👍

OP, give it a shot and good luck with your cycle!

:luck:
 
lol....this is so dumb. you realize how hard it is to get into mayo>? you'd be foolish not to apply and even more foolish to decline an interview. that's just my opinion tho 👍 :luck:

If you don't mind me interjecting, I think Mayo's selectivity is a product of their extremely small class size. That wouldn't hold up if its class size were two, three, four times what it is, like most other schools.

Some people really like Mayo, and others don't, but I don't think selectivity (especially in this case) is any reason to view it any differently.
 
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Applicants at Mayo were 80% VERY cool.

Since I interviewed the same day as you, I think this may be why applicants at Mayo seemed so cool...I really raise the level of "cool" everywhere I go. 😎

lol....this is so dumb. you realize how hard it is to get into mayo>? you'd be foolish not to apply and even more foolish to decline an interview. that's just my opinion tho 👍 :luck:

While I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly, this was essentially my first thought. OP is thinking about how he/she would be interacting with his/her classmates at Mayo WAY to early. If you get an interview at Mayo, you're very lucky, but even then it would be too early to really think about how you'd be interacting with your future classmates. Just apply there, its absolutely worth the money to give it a shot, and IF you are fortunate enough to get an interview, I think the interview day will answer any questions you may have about how the students get along.
 
While I wouldn't put it quite so bluntly, this was essentially my first thought. OP is thinking about how he/she would be interacting with his/her classmates at Mayo WAY to early. If you get an interview at Mayo, you're very lucky, but even then it would be too early to really think about how you'd be interacting with your future classmates. Just apply there, its absolutely worth the money to give it a shot, and IF you are fortunate enough to get an interview, I think the interview day will answer any questions you may have about how the students get along.

I agree with lrkoehle. I say base whether you apply to the school or not off of your criteria for school's alone. Then if you're lucky enough to get an interview, go and see what the students are like BUT still don't make any hard core conclusions. I don't think you can tell what your class will be like just based off of interviews. At least, I couldn't. Finally, if you're accepted, go to the Second Look Weekend, where you'll be more likely to get a sense of what your class will look like. Then, you can start to judge the character of your class. FYI, from my Second Look Weekend at Mayo, I got the sense that my class would be pretty chill or laid back people. That's not to say some people weren't more serious than others but the overall appearance was chill. After two days, I felt pretty comfortable around my perspective classmates and became pretty close to one in particular (In fact, someone thought we were good friends beforehand, but we had just met that weekend). Anyways, just give it a shot and see what you think when the time comes.
 
Agreed with what other people have said. I think that if you are thinking that this might be a good place (it certainly is for me), it is definitely worth applying and interviewing. You'll get a chance to talk to us in person, see our campus, and interact with our faculty. One of the more important parts of this process is to make sure you do not have any regrets about the place you end up. Apply to a broad range of schools and include any reaches/dreams/possibilities that you might interested in.
 
The real question is could you spend 4 years in Rochester, MN.

But IF you got into Mayo, you will go there essentially for free.
 
The real question is could you spend 4 years in Rochester, MN.

But IF you got into Mayo, you will go there essentially for free.

😕 I found Rochester to be a great small, Midwest city, and it is not free or even essentially free. They give great financial assistance, but it isn't free. If I recall correctly, it is a 50% tuition scholarship for everyone.
 
😕 I found Rochester to be a great small, Midwest city, and it is not free or even essentially free. They give great financial assistance, but it isn't free. If I recall correctly, it is a 50% tuition scholarship for everyone.

At least 50% tuition in merit-based aid plus quite a large amount of need-based. For most of the people I talked to, it ranged from 4k-9k a year and is not based off the student's provided information. It's a good deal, especially because Rochester is such a cheap city to live in and we also get things like travel stipends.
 
At least 50% tuition in merit-based aid plus quite a large amount of need-based. For most of the people I talked to, it ranged from 4k-9k a year and is not based off the student's provided information. It's a good deal, especially because Rochester is such a cheap city to live in and we also get things like travel stipends.

I remember hearing that there was more than just the 50% scholarship for everyone. I wasn't trying to make it seem like Mayo wasn't a smoking deal, because it is. I just was pointing out that its not free; that kind of information could be misleading.
 
I remember hearing that there was more than just the 50% scholarship for everyone. I wasn't trying to make it seem like Mayo wasn't a smoking deal, because it is. I just was pointing out that its not free; that kind of information could be misleading.

Thanks for pointing this out.

I remember having a conversation with Marcy in which she discussed receiving calls from people regarding their free flights to Mayo. 😱

Just to be clear: Mayo Medical School does NOT fly you out for free!

But it is a good deal, and as far as their aid packages this year, many of us will be going for just about free.
 
Even though I'm not matriculating at Mayo and going somewhere as equally prestigious, I'd have to say that Mayo is hands down the best place to study medicine. Don't call me an idealist. This is true. Of course, I define best medical school in a different light. To me the best school is one where the student is more than just an observer. It is a place that is student-centric and has unparalleled resources at the beck and call of all and sundry. You can be at Harvard/Duke/Yale/Stanford, etc but can you navigate the system as easily as Mayo? No! Mayo is the place to be.
You can read last year's thread to get a sense of a Mayo education. I'm too tired to look for it. Go ahead and search.
I went for interviews and revisit weekends at a gazillion schools. I'm not saying this to brag or anything. I'm putting things into perspective. I had heard about physicians being approachable at this school and that school. Mayo was the only place where I saw this in action. During my second look weekend at Mayo, I had the opportunity to shadow an interventional radiologist who was cryoablating renal cell carcinoma cells. He took the pain to go through the procedure with me. Later, he told me a colleague's wife was recently diagnosed with liver cancer and he wanted to do the biopsy himself. He taught me everything I needed to know about the procedure on a white board and constantly asked me to ask him any questions. Only God knows how many dumb ones I asked him but he really answered each and every one of them thoroughly. Baller!
The students were chill as hell. They were all laid back and honest and were frank when they said that Rochester sucked during the winter. :laugh: When we went to Gilligan's ( which is the only "club", I think I saw a pregnant woman. Or I kid?:laugh:). I'm personally not a big fan of cold weather because it changes my mood drastically.
The prospective students were cool as beans. 😍Beignet😍 ( She's the coolest and we're getting married someday :meanie:). Hehe. Guys, don't pass up the opportunity to interview here. Take it and run away with it if given the chance. Mayo was always my number choice but some decisions are hard and had to be made. I wish you all the best.
 
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Even though I'm not matriculating at Mayo and going somewhere as equally prestigious, I'd have to say that Mayo is hands down the best place to study medicine. Don't call me an idealist. This is true. Of course, I define best medical school in a different light. To me the best school is one where the student is more than just an observer. It is a place that is student-centric and has unparalleled resources at the beck and call of all and sundry. You can be at Harvard/Duke/Yale/Stanford, etc but can you navigate the system as easily as Mayo? No! Mayo is the place to be.
You can read last year's thread to get a sense of a Mayo education. I'm too tired to look for it. Go ahead and search.
I went for interviews and revisit weekends at a gazillion schools. I'm not saying this to brag or anything. I'm putting things into perspective. I had heard about physicians being approachable at this school and that school. Mayo was the only place where I saw this in action. During my second look weekend at Mayo, I had the opportunity to shadow an interventional radiologist who was cryoablating renal cell carcinoma cells. He took the place to go through the procedure with me. Later, he told me a colleague's wife was recently diagnosed with liver cancer and he wanted to do the biopsy himself. He taught me everything I needed to know about the procedure on a white board and constantly asked me to ask him any questions. Only God knows how many dumb ones I asked him but he really answered each and every one of them thoroughly. Baller!
The students were chill as hell. They were all laid back and honest and were frank when they said that Rochester sucked during the winter. :laugh: When we went to Gilligan's ( which is the only "club", I think I saw a pregnant woman. Or I kid?:laugh:). I'm personally not a big fan of cold weather because it changes my mood drastically.
The prospective students were cool as beans. 😍Beignet😍 ( She's the coolest and we're getting married someday :meanie:). Hehe. Guys, don't pass up the opportunity to interview here. Take it and run away with it if given the chance. Mayo was always my number choice but some decisions are hard but had to be made. I wish you all the best.

And though it goes without saying, I'm sure you have one hell of a career ahead of you, even though you did pick one of those "warmer climate" schools 😉

:luck: and hope to see you around!
 
And though it goes without saying, I'm sure you have one hell of a career ahead of you, even though you did pick one of those "warmer climate" schools 😉

:luck: and hope to see you around!
Thanks bamtuba. I'm sad I won't be joining you and Nerday et al in Honduras and Rochester. What I do know is that you guys will have a great education and will be leaders in medicine. I will see if I can spend my third year doing clinical research at the Clinic. See you soon.
 
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