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Trust me. Dolphin and paws need to go. This I know with 100% certainty. Yes it's mod confirmed. The thing is they're safe together. I'm not sure how this last lynch affected them but it apparently weakened them via the write up.
No. This is stupid.

Go back and think about a scenario in which an immortal wolf could be converted into a villager when there is still a pack of wolves to rat out. Sound like a bad idea in terms of game design? Like it might lead to the game ending a little too quickly, perhaps?

They are chaos. Move on.
There are NEW WOLVES.

From here on out, anyone who I see spouting illogical bull**** about players converted to chaos/other non-village affiliations as being "mod-confirmed wolves" is going at the top of my wolf list for deliberate obstruction of justice.
 
She also seemed to say the dark wizard seer was a wolf, but no one else thinks that, and that seems sketch.
Lol no. YOU said you thought she was sketchy.

I was trying to convey that I found it sketchy that you thought she was a wolf, but were waiting to see if anyone took the bait before actually lynching her yourself. And instead, you jumped on a pointless wagon. Just felt like drumming up sketchiness to me.

You were also equating ability seer with affiliation seer in terms of finding wolves, which is just...not an apples to apples kind of thing in my mind. I was objecting to that as justification for why you thought she was sketchy.

Lynching dolphin seems a no brainer to me. A lot should be learned there.
Yes clearly, we learn so much...
 
I've requested this before and got nothing but I'm gonna try again.

Can someone who has time to read and think about the write-ups please do me a favor and give a summary of where we're at with the story. Please and thank you.
 
As sure as God's got sandles
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lynch pippy

I feel like she’s just pissed that Stagg outted her and wants us to disregard him so she doesn’t get lynched.
 
lynch pippy

I feel like she’s just pissed that Stagg outted her and wants us to disregard him so she doesn’t get lynched.
Nope, real talk I am pissed that he and you were not mod killed for cheating (and borderline one or two others), as I don't enjoy playing in games with that and think it ruins the game.

On that note,

Lynch Stagg

Don't even care what his affiliation is now, and my vote will be staying here until he is dead.

But sure, you can go ahead and lynch one of the only two people who has actually killed wolves. That seems like a good end game policy right there and right in line with everyone's game play so far lol.

Once you are interested in thinking, consider that Stagg actually also said he has had no idea of my affiliation all game, and also recapped exactly how I stabbed the original wolves in the back, although he left out the part where I killed Capri. Good luck with lynching me, one does not become a double agent by being particularly squishy
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No. This is stupid.

Go back and think about a scenario in which an immortal wolf could be converted into a villager when there is still a pack of wolves to rat out. Sound like a bad idea in terms of game design? Like it might lead to the game ending a little too quickly, perhaps?

They are chaos. Move on.
There are NEW WOLVES.

From here on out, anyone who I see spouting illogical bull**** about players converted to chaos/other non-village affiliations as being "mod-confirmed wolves" is going at the top of my wolf list for deliberate obstruction of justice.
Oh yes, this is ending much too quickly. I know what I know. I'm comfortable with that and afterwards I am happy to keep searching.

I don't care if they're chaos or wolf. The way they're acting, it's not village friendly. They're attacking us, silencing us, burning us, poisoning us. How is that good to keep around?
 
~ Table of Contents ~

D1 Reverie/Block Tally
D1 - Act 1, Scene 2
N1 - Act 1, Scene 3: The trek through the Ice Dungeon
D2 Tally
D2 - Act 1 Scene 4: The "Peaceful" Village of Vela
N2 - Act 1 Scene 5: The trip to Bilundeam
D3 Tally
D3 - Act 1 Scene 6: The plot of Bilundeam
N3 - Act 1 Scene 7: The Glitch in the Game
D4 Blue Text - History of the Vale
D4 Pre End of Day Mini Writeup
D4 Tally
D4 - Act 1 Scene 8: The Resilience of Dark Shuffle
N4 - Act 1 Scene 9: Poison, Pacts, and Perils
D5 Tally
D5 - Act 1 Scene 10: Stealing to Save a Life?
N5 - Act 1 Scene 11: The plan begins….
D6 Tally
D6 - Act 1 Scene 12: God Save the Queen
N6 - Act 2 Scene 1: Unparalleled Destruction
D7 Tally
D7 - Act 2 Scene 1 Part 2
N7 - Act 2 Scene 2: The fall of Dark Shuffle
D8 Tally
D8 - Act 2 Scene ?
N8 - Act 2 Scene ?
D9 Tally
D9 - Act 2 Scene 4: Thore, the God of Thunder
N9 - Act 2 Scene 5: The outer continent
D10 Tally
D10 - Act 2 Scene 6: The Village
N10 - Act 2 Scene 7: The Proposal
D11 Tally
D11 - Act 2 Final Scene: A village, A tale, An Encloser
N11 - Act 3 Scene 1: A Queen’s Desire
D12 Tally
D12 Short Writeup
N12 - Act 3 Scene 1: Deja vu? (Yes, SCENE 1)
D13 Tally
D13 - Short Write: Queen Ehrnab dead
N13 - Act 3 Scenes 2 and 3: A return to normalcy?
D14 Tally
D14 - Act 3 Scene 4: The Four Altars
N14 - Act 3 Scene 5: All is one, One is All
D15 Tally
D15 - Act 3 Scene 6: The Entry to Firma
N15 - Act 3 Scene 6: Clarity, A Clear Mind, and an Open Vessel
D16 Tally
D16 - Act 3 Scene 7: A journey through bedlam
N16 - Act 3 Scene 7: An Escape from Bedlam
D17 Tally
D17 - Short Write-Up: Komobia dead
N17 - Act 4 Scene 1: The Crystal World
 
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Holy crap that's a lot of writing. Props to the author.
 
But sure, you can go ahead and lynch one of the only two people who has actually killed wolves. That seems like a good end game policy right there and right in line with everyone's game play so far lol.
Thought we were looking for new wolves? So not sure why that matters at this point
 
Ok read the write up, sounds like kalivan has a choice to make.

For the record I believe staggs claim because of the info I can verify. He described the actions against me before knowing what they were. Everyone assumed with the weird time thing I was back to not talking but in reality I was STOPPED. And I couldn't do **** for three days. (Can you tell I'm bitter?)

@WildZoo if you're still village, which I believe you are, listen to me. Trust me. Dolphin and paws need to go. This I know with 100% certainty. Yes it's mod confirmed. The thing is they're safe together. I'm not sure how this last lynch affected them but it apparently weakened them via the write up. But they're still not in charge. I know their strings are being pulled by sweet promises but psychotic intentions.

Thing is they need to be separated to die.
"Without his friend, he no longer felt as protected.
He ran through the streets, ending finally in a dead end, the people had him surrounded. One in particular lunged forward and stabbed him in the gut. He activated a bomb that he had on him. “I hope this works.”

The villagers all ran away, knewing he could not survive his wound.

Dead is….

Wait…. What’s this. The bomb exploded ON HIMSELF AND HIMSELF ONLY, and somehow his mortal wound was healed."

So he had a bomb, but it healed the lynch because opposite day. So he should be bombless.

However @Ms Procrastinator also said paws also had a bomb. Was there one bomb or did each have one?

Also @Ms Procrastinator do you belong to someone?
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It lets me type things, and I can like posts but as soon as I hit post reply, it just shows a moving loading bar and then doesn't actually post anything.
It's probably for the best anyways. Lynch me if you want but you still won't get a bad guy, so don't blame me when you all remain frustrated. My ability is extremely useful and my overarching win condition is a complicated one that ultimately is focused on redemption and becoming good, and most of my actions (except ones that are necessary for the given point in the story or the circumstances) have been focused on gaining a soul through helping good guys. I've seered multiple players who will notice nothing bad has happened to them since I did that, and given the information I know about them, trust me when I say a bad guy would do something about it. But it doesn't matter, you're all going to listen to people who aren't playing by the rules anyways so I'm over it.

Clicking post, let's see if this works
 
Stagg isn't lying about everything but he's an idiot, and anyone who follows him isn't actually thinking about what he is saying.

The twins and I are actually the LEAST LIKELY people to be wolves at this point in time, because otherwise the game -- which has been incredibly deliberately timed so far -- would have been entirely over the day after I killed Capri, which was one of the trigger events that moved us into Act 3. Not Act 4 or end game... Act 3.

The twins can die today but I upgraded their bomb to meet the Chaos portion of my win condition. Consider yourselves warned. If you lynch them, I can modulate to Neutral though, so have at it.

And to reiterate -- I'm not annoyed with Stagg because he exposed things. I don't care about that and was actually expecting it, although to be honest, I wasn't expecting him to be so stupidly stubborn with the wrong interpretation lol. I'm sitting on this lynch vote for other reasons and will stay here because I'm sick of it and want it gone from the game.
 
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@PippyPony Thoughts on the remaining wolves?
I think it might actually still be possible for Stagg to flip wolf, rather than what he is trying to sell, which is that all of us are still wolves except him. It makes more sense in my head from a balancing perspective.

I have concerns about Mel given the recent write up, but I seered him village not toooo long ago, and even if he converts, I don't think I'm actually able to lynch him given my role description, and in any case I think it would be detrimental for village to lose his ability if he indeed remains village.

I am side eyeing Dubz, Coop and Miz for continuing to push lynches that don't make sense and don't yield anything for the village. Was squinting at jboo pretty hard for the comments she made yesterday about knowing that the twins weren't wolves but then she flipped village so there's that lol.

I feel like there is likely to be something non-village between Trilt and SOV, but not sure which one and would like more opportunities to gather information there to be perfectly honest, because one of my theories is that one of them might be the mystical girl at the beginning of this morning's write up.

Still feeling pretty good about PBC and Ms P for write up related reasons & game play, and I think Cubs is sounding more like a frustrated villager than something wolfy, although I wouldn't be shocked if he was back to Minor Antagonist at this point.
 
@PippyPony Thoughts on the remaining wolves?
Oh, and if you actually did what I think you might have done two nights ago, then I will be looking at you a lot harder than I was.

I'm not 100% on how things would have changed for you given upside down day, but if it was in a certain way, then I am not thrilled with you and your decisions.
 
Oh, and if you actually did what I think you might have done two nights ago, then I will be looking at you a lot harder than I was.

I'm not 100% on how things would have changed for you given upside down day, but if it was in a certain way, then I am not thrilled with you and your decisions.
Pippy plz. I've been letting you live. plz chill.
 
As an aside, I'm still not in the twins' individual role pm (they have always had their own), but they are currently in a pack with me, and my role pm strongly suggests that they would have become chaos the moment when I did, which was the moment Capri died for the first time.

According to them, they'll both die when they are next lynched.

Do with that what you will. I'm going to study for my neuro final.
 
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As an aside, I'm still not in the twins' individual role pm (they have always had their own), but they are currently in a pack with me, and my role pm strongly suggests that they would have become chaos the moment when I did, which was the moment Capri died for the first time.

According to them, they'll both die when they are next lynched.

Do with that what you will. I'm going to study for my neuro final.
FYI we are still a bomb so........might want to do some actual wolf hunting on thread if you all want us to take out a wolf, just saying.
 
As an aside, I'm still not in the twins' individual role pm (they have always had their own), but they are currently in a pack with me, and my role pm strongly suggests that they would have become chaos the moment when I did, which was the moment Capri died for the first time.

According to them, they'll both die when they are next lynched.

Do with that what you will. I'm going to study for my neuro final.
Good enough for me.

#lynch dolphin######
 
Thought we were looking for new wolves? So not sure why that matters at this point
Couple comments on this:

1. Clearly you are not actually looking for new wolves based on this, so don't act like you are doing that all of a sudden
2. It matters a great deal indeed in the context of understanding my role trajectory and what side I am truly playing for. Keep in mind that I started this game with the wolves, yet did NO night kills and in fact did multiple things to undermine them at considerable risk to myself, while keeping up enough "Antagonist" flavor to meet the milestones I have to meet in order to gradually free myself.

Maybe you try being a double agent sometime and see if you appreciate being told that nothing you have done over the past two weeks matters. On top of that, imagine how frustrated you'd feel playing for ~3 teams at the same time (current, next affiliation, final affiliation) and putting a ton of effort in, but then dealing with people being lazy & playing like jerks and deciding to policy lynch you without listening to a damn thing you've said all game because they can't be bothered to come up with anything better. It sucks and it's exhausting.

@Melchizedek take your lazy lynch vote and put it on someone else.
 
I was trying to convey that I found it sketchy that you thought she was a wolf, but were waiting to see if anyone took the bait before actually lynching her yourself. And instead, you jumped on a pointless wagon. Just felt like drumming up sketchiness to me.
I don't believe the wagon was pointless, but I agree that the way he presented this information to us absolutely read as sketchy and it pinged me a little, too.

Yes clearly, we learn so much...
"I upgraded their bomb" and throwing it in our faces that we haven't been able to lynch the twins yet are not things that are compatible. Sarcasm is not appreciated when we've been trying to flip a set of characters for literally half the game.

Oh yes, this is ending much too quickly. I know what I know. I'm comfortable with that and afterwards I am happy to keep searching.

I don't care if they're chaos or wolf. The way they're acting, it's not village friendly. They're attacking us, silencing us, burning us, poisoning us. How is that good to keep around?
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@Stagg737 did you attempt any kills or actions last night?
I would really like to know the answer to this, because while I've been pretty gungho "Stagg is on a redemption arc!" this game, I think the way he played yesterday is not particularly fun and kinda came out of nowhere only when he was getting pressure put on them. That feels much less village than if it had been proffered freely.

The twins and I are actually the LEAST LIKELY people to be wolves at this point in time, because otherwise the game -- which has been incredibly deliberately timed so far -- would have been entirely over the day after I killed Capri, which was one of the trigger events that moved us into Act 3. Not Act 4 or end game... Act 3.
What in the world are you even claiming here.

Maybe try killing actual bad guys, then they die.

Example: KC.
Ah yes. Like Stagg, easy to kill with a simple lynch!
 
I think it might actually still be possible for Stagg to flip wolf, rather than what he is trying to sell, which is that all of us are still wolves except him. It makes more sense in my head from a balancing perspective.

I have concerns about Mel given the recent write up, but I seered him village not toooo long ago, and even if he converts, I don't think I'm actually able to lynch him given my role description, and in any case I think it would be detrimental for village to lose his ability if he indeed remains village.

I am side eyeing Dubz, Coop and Miz for continuing to push lynches that don't make sense and don't yield anything for the village. Was squinting at jboo pretty hard for the comments she made yesterday about knowing that the twins weren't wolves but then she flipped village so there's that lol.

I feel like there is likely to be something non-village between Trilt and SOV, but not sure which one and would like more opportunities to gather information there to be perfectly honest, because one of my theories is that one of them might be the mystical girl at the beginning of this morning's write up.

Still feeling pretty good about PBC and Ms P for write up related reasons & game play, and I think Cubs is sounding more like a frustrated villager than something wolfy, although I wouldn't be shocked if he was back to Minor Antagonist at this point.

Per the write up it almost sounds like Mel gets to pick his side going forward.
 
"I upgraded their bomb" and throwing it in our faces that we haven't been able to lynch the twins yet are not things that are compatible. Sarcasm is not appreciated when we've been trying to flip a set of characters for literally half the game.
I don't much care about other people's feelings anymore and am actually holding back the level of snark I want to put on this thread right now. You've been told they are bad lynches, there is every bit of evidence that they are bad lynches, and yet you all keep doing it anyways. I've been pushing other candidates for days.

Also, as chaos I am supposed to be playing as chaos, so I made an upgrade that would punish either wolves who are chaos hunting or villagers who aren't helping to wolf hunt; not sure why that is inconsistent or surprising in any way. At this point, I'd upgrade them again if I could.

while I've been pretty gungho "Stagg is on a redemption arc!" this game

What in the world are you even claiming here.

Ah yes. Like Stagg, easy to kill with a simple lynch!
These comments are all related to the same thing and actually is what makes the most sense if people just break out of being stuck and think about it for a hot second.

Stagg, as you pointed out, seems to be a bad guy on a redemption arc. As are paws and dolphin. As am I.

And accordingly, we are all not particularly easy to kill, because:

If Stagg was easy to kill in the beginning of the game, he wouldn't have been on a redemption arc at all.

If the rest of us were all easy to kill now and were still bad guys, then Stagg turning into something resembling village at mid-game -- which was a mod-planned action afaik -- would have resulted in the game being over immediately, because he would just say who the wolves are and be right and that would be game over.

Sorry, but winning this game for village is not as easy as "blindly follow the redeemed wolf," and anyone who decides to keep playing that way is going to find themselves progressively more frustrated.

Maybe when they both die and flip chaos, people will finally start to listen, but don't come back crying to me for all the time wasted chasing shadows.
 
I don't much care about other people's feelings anymore and am actually holding back the level of snark I want to put on this thread right now. You've been told they are bad lynches, there is every bit of evidence that they are bad lynches, and yet you all keep doing it anyways. I've been pushing other candidates for days.

Also, as chaos I am supposed to be playing as chaos, so I made an upgrade that would punish either wolves who are chaos hunting or villagers who aren't helping to wolf hunt; not sure why that is inconsistent or surprising in any way. At this point, I'd upgrade them again if I could.


These comments are all related to the same thing and actually is what makes the most sense if people just break out of being stuck and think about it for a hot second.

Stagg, as you pointed out, seems to be a bad guy on a redemption arc. As are paws and dolphin. As am I.

And accordingly, we are all not particularly easy to kill, because:

If Stagg was easy to kill in the beginning of the game, he wouldn't have been on a redemption arc at all.

If the rest of us were all easy to kill now and were still bad guys, then Stagg turning into something resembling village at mid-game -- which was a mod-planned action afaik -- would have resulted in the game being over immediately, because he would just say who the wolves are and be right and that would be game over.

Sorry, but winning this game for village is not as easy as "blindly follow the redeemed wolf," and anyone who decides to keep playing that way is going to find themselves progressively more frustrated.

Maybe when they both die and flip chaos, people will finally start to listen, but don't come back crying to me for all the time wasted chasing shadows.
But you said you dont really know their affiliation anymore but are guessing. So we really HAVE to lynch one of them to find out

And TBH we have no reason to believe you either. All 3 (4) of you are admitted wolves...its not like you came forward...but were forced to make these admissions.

Every wolf in the game from a few nights ago is suddenly not one? That is hard to swallow.

I am generally game to let chaos live...but 3 chaos players? Nah. That is a faction that needs to be eliminated most likely a different type of wolf than chaos.
 
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