WW: Southern Vampires GAME THREAD

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I know krist answered DocE's question but I'll confirm that we were given each other's roles in a pm from the mods. Obviously there could have been conversions so it doesn't matter to much. Sorry for the absence yesterday but as sheeps mentioned I was silenced.
 
Are there usually so many seers in a game? I would think since there's three investigative roles and a night tracker that there's probably an unseerable wolf running around.
 
unlynch SOV. Apparently I still need to think on this...
 
Sigh. DocE can you at least let me PM with Abney tonight? I feel like I deserve a chance to talk to her. My role could be helpful to you as well. If you lynch me, you are going to be lynching 100% villager, and no closer to getting a wolf.

Our role names and roles were given in the coven mod PM. When SOV cleared me, I gave him and dyachei my role right away, and once I got to do stuff, I told them about it. I have been passing info back and forth between the groups.
 
Come on guys. Mod is bored. Lynch! Lynch! Lynch!
 
Well let's look at it this way. If there is an unseerable wolf, its either foxhunter (who I fully admit my seer failed on, but thats for being a vampire) or it is sov or sns solely bevause I haven't tried them yet. I read minds, its the same way renee was caught in the show. No one could see who he really was no matter when they looked except sookie, as she read his and saw thoughts that didn't fit with their supposed identity. I doubt someone, barring a vamp, is immune to that.

So if we assume sov and fh and sns are all useful enough to not lynch solely on the "i haven't looked yet" corrolary, then people should vote their instincts. Idk what my instincts are. But I think they're definitely not sns... though my gf is swearing holly has no business being in the coven.

unlynch sns

Need to think.
 
lynch sov I feel like I've trained him in the art of WW with our early games together and he has shown amazing acuity from the start. He plays a lot like me: systematic, talkative, and not afraid to push people into errors. But I don't think he's playing smart now, although I considered he is trying to push me into revealing my (non existent) wolfiness. Him playing poorly is too big of a red flag for me.

I know he says his role is useful, and ****, it should be useful. Feel free to.not agree with me if his deputy power (which is a seer of sorts, right) is to valuable to gamble with. But I say anyone is fair game now regardless of how useful they could be as a villager, and he is the most suspicious to me.
 
I know that Bellefleur was said to have no wolves but that info came from ksmi, the tracker. Doesn't that mean that there's not necessarily no wolves in that area just that the night ksmi followed them they didn't do anything? I doubt that SOV would be an unseerable wolf. Why would he give us lissa in that case? I will say that SnS has been very open with us. She's known that SOV is the seer and what dyachei could do for a while. A wolf wouldn't leave those players alive.

lynch foxhunter
 
So if we assume sov and fh and sns are all useful enough to not lynch solely on the "i haven't looked yet" corrolary, then people should vote their instincts. Idk what my instincts are. But I think they're definitely not sns... though my gf is swearing holly has no business being in the coven.

unlynch sns

Need to think.

Thanks. I will try to walk Abney through everything tonight to help make you feel more at ease, but you should be able to seer me just fine if you want....Don't think SOV has ever been seer'ed/investigated by anyone though...so it is totally up to you. Like I have said before, I stopped paying attention to the series, but according to wiki Holly is good and just trying to get by--help out Sam, Lafayette, Arlene, etc etc.. When we first started the game I literally had nothing to do and was basically a lame witch with just a name. Then the other two found me on the full moon and I joined the coven, and I guess the "strength of the coven" gave me my powers? I am not the leader of the coven, someone else is.

I trusted dyachei, and she turned out to be good so I guess I will go with her last gut instinct for this lynch unless someone has a better idea.

Lynch sheepie.
 
Ok yeah apparently when ksmi said that bellefleur mansion was clear it meant she tracked all of his and no one had any night actions the night she tracked them, but that definitely does not mean no wolves! It's a total toss up between foxhunter and zanydogz for me, so coin flip says lynch zany
 
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Ok yeah apparently when ksmi said that bellefleur mansion was clear it meant she tracked all of his and no one had any night actions the night she tracked them, but that definitely does not mean no wolves! It's a total toss up between foxhunter and zanydogz for me, so coin flip says lynch zany

Zany is the single least suspicious person here. Was just identified last night round. Totally innocent.
 
Zany is the single least suspicious person here. Was just identified last night round. Totally innocent.

oops my bad i missed that. Although sometimes wolves come up with alternate identities when seered, just saying. even if a person has been seered it could be their fake identity if they can evade investigation.

unlynch zany, lynch foxhunter.
 
Ugh I don't know what to think anymore!!! I'm gonna go with lynch foxhunter for now. An unseerable role, even a vampire, sets off some flags for me. If anyone has anything better, let me know.
 
oops my bad i missed that. Although sometimes wolves come up with alternate identities when seered, just saying. even if a person has been seered it could be their fake identity if they can evade investigation.

unlynch zany, lynch foxhunter.

No way you could have known. I hadnt said who i seered recently.

as for evading the seer, I obviously dont know all the game mechanics but i doubt they can avoid mine for the reason i brought up before. No one knew Drew Marshall was really Renee Lenier except sookie, who saw the discord between their actions benign actions and their malicious thoughts.
 
I guess I will go with my past lynch vote,
lynch foxhunter
 
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Sunday in Bon Temps. The pulpit stands empty, and it is a sad fact, as some among the citizens are wondering if they need absolution. Others are out for fun, swimming in the creek or sunning in the back yard, as DocE prefers.

After the gallivanting is done, everyone gets cleaned up to attend a meeting of the Descendants of the Glorious Dead. But before ambrosia and sweet potato mash can be enjoyed by all... They had to hang another player.
The votes come in, they are withdrawn, recast and cast again. At the end, it is foxhunter who has the most. Foxhunter, dressed in her best twinset and pumps looks deeply into the eyes of Hedgiehog, Krist, zanydogz and bbeventer. "Everything will be fine" she says.
"withdraw your votes" and one by one they do.
Now facing a three way tie, foxhunter doesn't feel it's right to force another lynch. She stares at Abney.
Abney is heard to say: "Come on y'all, we'll be late for our assembly."

The town files out. Today there will be no lynch.

It is now Night 11. Deadline is in the AM.

The Stackhouse Farm
1.wldlfstdnt - Bill Compton
2.nordicat - Tara Thornton
3.Packen - Lochlan
4.Lupin21 - Debbie Pelt
5. cuitlamiztli - ???
6. DocEspana

The Bellefleur Mansion
1. Foxhunter
2. krist
3. ksmi117 - Maria-Star Cooper
4. nohika - Hadley Hale
5. zanydogz
6. Trematode - Claudine Crane

Merlotte's Bar and Grill
1. devyn - Neave
2. shortnsweet
3. Lissarae06 - Lorena Ball
4. dyachei - Sam Merlotte
5. StartingoverVet
6. LetItSnow - Rev. Steve Newlin

Hot Shot
1. Bbeventer
2. jdh71 - Andy Bellefleur
3. Flim Flam Man - Adele Stackhouse
4. wildcatj - Claude Crane
5. DVMDream - Eric Northman
6. PJ meowerton - Russell Edgington

The Old Compton Place
1. Wolfspeaker - Charles "Cooter" Clausen
2. hedgiehog
3. sheepdogpsu
4.swingnsave - Hoyt Fortenberry
5. WhtsThFrequency - Franklin Mott
6. Abney
 
Woah that is weird, definitely a vamp glamour but seems wolf ish to me, to be able to glamour to not be lynched! Esp if it is a powerful evil vamp who can't be seered


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Woah that is weird, definitely a vamp glamour but seems wolf ish to me, to be able to glamour to not be lynched! Esp if it is a powerful evil vamp who can't be seered


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see i dont see it as being wolfish. I just see it as being a power, lets say, pam would have. Who i assume this to be.

then again cant say anything about if I'm *sure* its a wolf power or not.
 
Still missing LOTS of PMs this morning.

Keeping the normal 12pm EDT Deadline, but would love to close early. So send them in! 🙂
 
Wow... I missed a lot guys. Thanks for trying to lynch me, sorry I was gone. I'll go ahead and share what I can about my role. I am in fact Pam, a vampire. But I'm a villager. I was linked to Eric and thus able to talk to DVMD while she was alive. My only ability outside of talking to Eric was that I could escape 1 lynch, hence why there were no lynches yesterday.
 
Wow... I missed a lot guys. Thanks for trying to lynch me, sorry I was gone. I'll go ahead and share what I can about my role. I am in fact Pam, a vampire. But I'm a villager. I was linked to Eric and thus able to talk to DVMD while she was alive. My only ability outside of talking to Eric was that I could escape 1 lynch, hence why there were no lynches yesterday.

have we ever seen a villager role who can escape a lynch?!?

I'm not being totally sarcastic, I'm actually wondering if we think this is possible.
 
have we ever seen a villager role who can escape a lynch?!?

I'm not being totally sarcastic, I'm actually wondering if we think this is possible.

Yea. My last game had a character who could pick people early in the game who would escape lynch x1. And in almost every game being lynch proof x1 is a mayor power, but recent games have moved away from giving the mayor that power and have given it to a lucky.villager.

The only example of lynch proofing a wolf I can think of is the joker in my last game. And he wasn't lynch proof as much as there was a method to killing him that it took 12 rounds for people to fgure out.
 
The only example of lynch proofing a wolf I can think of is the joker in my last game. And he wasn't lynch proof as much as there was a method to killing him that it took 12 rounds for people to fgure out.
No need to remind us all that this is clearly untrue for our games. I'll give Doc a pass because he just doesn't play here that frequently to know this is a common wolf role.

What I don't give him a pass on his continued insistence on foxie's innocence.

I am not sure if foxie is a wolf or not, but I remain highly skeptical of anyone who can be so sure of anything in these games unless they are a wolf. He admits he can't "see" her, but has been willing to accept her word all along. Just doesn't add up to me.

And his contention that only he can see perfectly doesn't add up as well. This game is filled with protectors and seers, and I don't think any of the roles are so flawless. It would be a poorly designed game if that were true.

And doc's continued resistance to see the obvious that there are conversions and/or un-seeable characters again doesn't add up. Because he has not "seen" a few people does not make us guilty. It is because we are not suspicious, and been helping win this game.

Doc is the one playing strangely and instead accuses me? What did I do the last few games he accuses me of? Voting twice to lynch LIS, WHICH HE DID and disagreeing that wolves knew his role. I mean being attacked twice is hardly strong evidence of anything, but he uses that to accuse me.

Pigheaded or wolf? I think he is starting to believe his own bullcrap. Yes, doc, yours stinks like everyone else.

And if you are just playing badly then I hope the wolves did kill you overnight, because you have become a liability to a villager victory.
 
1) Pam is a huge role that hasnt been identified to any player yet
2) FH was idetified as an unknown vamp nights ago by me
3) Look at how FH is described in the write up. Described wearing Pam's signature look from the TV show
4) Pam glamours. Thats literally the power i would have assigned her as she does it repeatedly in the show (and i imagine a ton in the books)
5) there are no *major* evil vampires left in the books mythos. We killed them all already. Could always be a smaller role, and smaller roles have shown up here. But a small role evil vampire is not likely when a major role good one is not in the game.

No one is above conversion. Period. BUT! your logic is not conversion. Youre arguing this is an evil wolf from the start, which suggests you've put zero thought into your statement because mountains of evidence point one way and youre going the other because you hate anyone i vouch for in the least.
 
Yea. My last game had a character who could pick people early in the game who would escape lynch x1. And in almost every game being lynch proof x1 is a mayor power, but recent games have moved away from giving the mayor that power and have given it to a lucky.villager.

The only example of lynch proofing a wolf I can think of is the joker in my last game. And he wasn't lynch proof as much as there was a method to killing him that it took 12 rounds for people to fgure out.

DocE... I have to play your next game
 
1) Pam is a huge role that hasnt been identified to any player yet
2) FH was idetified as an unknown vamp nights ago by me
3) Look at how FH is described in the write up. Described wearing Pam's signature look from the TV show
4) Pam glamours. Thats literally the power i would have assigned her as she does it repeatedly in the show (and i imagine a ton in the books)
5) there are no *major* evil vampires left in the books mythos. We killed them all already. Could always be a smaller role, and smaller roles have shown up here. But a small role evil vampire is not likely when a major role good one is not in the game.

No one is above conversion. Period. BUT! your logic is not conversion. Youre arguing this is an evil wolf from the start, which suggests you've put zero thought into your statement because mountains of evidence point one way and youre going the other because you hate anyone i vouch for in the least.

Sadly, I did not have this ability...
 
No need to remind us all that this is clearly untrue for our games. I'll give Doc a pass because he just doesn't play here that frequently to know this is a common wolf role.

What I don't give him a pass on his continued insistence on foxie's innocence.

I am not sure if foxie is a wolf or not, but I remain highly skeptical of anyone who can be so sure of anything in these games unless they are a wolf. He admits he can't "see" her, but has been willing to accept her word all along. Just doesn't add up to me.

And his contention that only he can see perfectly doesn't add up as well. This game is filled with protectors and seers, and I don't think any of the roles are so flawless. It would be a poorly designed game if that were true.

And doc's continued resistance to see the obvious that there are conversions and/or un-seeable characters again doesn't add up. Because he has not "seen" a few people does not make us guilty. It is because we are not suspicious, and been helping win this game.

Doc is the one playing strangely and instead accuses me? What did I do the last few games he accuses me of? Voting twice to lynch LIS, WHICH HE DID and disagreeing that wolves knew his role. I mean being attacked twice is hardly strong evidence of anything, but he uses that to accuse me.

Pigheaded or wolf? I think he is starting to believe his own bullcrap. Yes, doc, yours stinks like everyone else.

And if you are just playing badly then I hope the wolves did kill you overnight, because you have become a liability to a villager victory.

If I had been a wolf, I don't think I would've been so forthcoming with the fact that I was a vampire.
 
DocE... I have to play your next game

Im told they are headtrips. I've got one cooking for a november release. Need to mock out some of the play mechanics to see if they are too wolf or too villager friendly. (then again, that never works out the way i expect. I thought the batman game would end in villager victory super fast, but JDH and BT played their roles beautifully and got it to a good close ending)
 
Still waiting on 2 PMs.... and a mod meeting will be required before results can be posted. (I love saying that! :meanie:)
 
No one is above conversion. Period. BUT! your logic is not conversion. Youre arguing this is an evil wolf from the start, which suggests you've put zero thought into your statement because mountains of evidence point one way and youre going the other because you hate anyone i vouch for in the least.
I have said REPEATEDLY there are either converted people left OR an unseeable wolf. That is consistent.

ANd you cannot vouch for FH, that is my problem.
When you have "see-ed" someone I have no problem saying they are either clear or converted, but when you can't, you just cannot be that sure.

And unfortunately you GAVE FH her alibi which she never provided herself.

I am done discussing this. Getting me bored. You refuse to see the flaw in what you have done. Your problem

I'd rather pay attention to parasitology.
 
I have said REPEATEDLY there are either converted people left OR an unseeable wolf. That is consistent.

ANd you cannot vouch for FH, that is my problem.
When you have "see-ed" someone I have no problem saying they are either clear or converted, but when you can't, you just cannot be that sure.

And unfortunately you GAVE FH her alibi which she never provided herself.

I am done discussing this. Getting me bored. You refuse to see the flaw in what you have done. Your problem

I'd rather pay attention to parasitology.

As best as i can tell, that was.never your logic.for fh lynch. I reread the last few pages and you repeatedly just went fir "kill them they are a vampire" and "kill them if doc e vouches for them" while I did nothing to prevent the lynch. Nothing. I'm pointing out your iconsistancy that you just corrected now. Not defending fh beyond saying there is nothing to make her more likely than any other player, odds wise, given the guge odds she was Pam. Gut feeling wise is different.
 
Night deadline is here. Night is closed. Have to talk to FTB before any PMs are sent or results posted. Please be patient with us.
 
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