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SummerTheLynx said:
I don't know why trilt would not like canine brucellosis.
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I had the saddest case involving brucellosis actually. I mean the whole circumstances were sad. <1year old FS Labrador, ate pieces of a frisbee so had rads at rDVM. They saw disko, which the dog was asymptomatic for. Referred to neuro. We talked to owner, said ah this will be fine, started cepha, sent out titers for bad infectious things "just to be sure." Brucella positive. Background on dog: lives with immunocompromised elderly owner, young grandchildren, was bought for young grandchildren after their parents died a tragic death in a car accident. Elderly owner's husband (kids' grandfather) also recently died. Dog is basically kids' best friend. Now has to be reported to county and owner is totally freaked out about the Brucella thing. As far as I know the dog is still alive and asymptomatic for disko but I don't think that we can be sure that the Brucella ever 100% clears so this person has to be super vigilant for the rest of the dog's life now.
 
WildZoo said:
lynch serher


Kind of odd that you question the posting restriction being the reason for the lynch, and then state that was your reason for it. The reminders that wolves could have posting restrictions were specifically because people were using it as a reason to clear her, not because it made her more wolfy or anything like that.
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LOL exactly. I was pretty conflicted. I basically just went with the lynch because I didn't have strong enough feeling about who else to vote for.
 
loooool well this is quite the pickle for me, isn't it! I should have a fun time trying to get out of this. Here are some possibilities I have thought of so far:
  • the target of the kill was protected
  • the killer (who in this option, isn't me) was blocked, by either a person or another item
  • the killer (who in this case, is me) was blocked by the muzzle
  • conversion
  • the wolves didn't kill last night, knowing there was an item to prevent kills, hoping it would frame whoever the item was used on (lucky me!)
1/5 options I have thought of so far implicate me. I know you guys are already suspicious of me, so lynch me for that if you would like, but just jumping on me without exploring the options for what happened overnight doesn't seem like a good idea.

As an add on, I think that it would have been awfully bold of me to attempt the kill last night if I am a wolf (which I'm not). You guys were talking about me last evening as a potential lynch target for today. Why draw more attention toward myself?
 
If this was actually orchestrated, 10/10 good work to whoever thought of this. I think this option is less likely though
 
hazelmoo said:
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my own meme, I'm honored :laugh:
 
Oh and before someone picks apart all of the options I just said, I know they are not all likely. I think it would behoove us all to come up with all possible options regardless if you decide to lynch me or not.
 
Okay, I'll be back to post more, but I had a posting restriction yesterday and a stethoscope given to me.

The restriction was the cause of a kitten and I noticed Pippy was also talking to a kitten when she was restricted, so naturally I wanted to take a look at PBC.

She did nothing last night and she's pretty sick, so?? Not sure if this information helps.
 
Great Butts said:
Okay, I'll be back to post more, but I had a posting restriction yesterday and a stethoscope given to me.

The restriction was the cause of a kitten and I noticed Pippy was also talking to a kitten when she was restricted, so naturally I wanted to take a look at PBC.

She did nothing last night and she's pretty sick, so?? Not sure if this information helps.
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Care to share your actual role now?
 
Great Butts said:
The restriction was the cause of a kitten and I noticed Pippy was also talking to a kitten when she was restricted, so naturally I wanted to take a look at PBC.
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Strange, the posting restriction changes theme? And you had it for the night cycle vs day cycle?

I was restricted because an adorable kitten walked up to my cage and I was so enamored by it that I could only talk in sad cat diary/dear kitten advice (like the friskies ads). For some reason I didn't actually think it was coming from a player (in retrospect that was dumb, I think the PM even said something about the kitten escaping from its cage during the night) but I guess it could make sense it was PBC.

sent from ma fone
 
Great Butts said:
Okay, I'll be back to post more, but I had a posting restriction yesterday and a stethoscope given to me.

The restriction was the cause of a kitten and I noticed Pippy was also talking to a kitten when she was restricted, so naturally I wanted to take a look at PBC.

She did nothing last night and she's pretty sick, so?? Not sure if this information helps.
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Double post, whoops
 
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Great Butts said:
Okay, I'll be back to post more, but I had a posting restriction yesterday and a stethoscope given to me.

The restriction was the cause of a kitten and I noticed Pippy was also talking to a kitten when she was restricted, so naturally I wanted to take a look at PBC.

She did nothing last night and she's pretty sick, so?? Not sure if this information helps.
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What would be helpful is informing us of your patient information (not ability).
 
I'm not sure what to think about this new information on serher. It certainly is incriminating though.
 
PippyPony said:
Strange, the posting restriction changes theme? And you had it for the night cycle vs day cycle?

I was restricted because an adorable kitten walked up to my cage and I was so enamored by it that I could only talk in sad cat diary/dear kitten advice (like the friskies ads). For some reason I didn't actually think it was coming from a player (in retrospect that was dumb, I think the PM even said something about the kitten escaping from its cage during the night) but I guess it could make sense it was PBC.

sent from ma fone
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No, the restriction was for the day cycle but I came in super late and missed my PMs, so I ended up keeping the restriction until the AM.

I was also given the restriction from a super adorable kitten that made me confused as heck, so I figured that must have been what happened to you. The only kitten that I know of (unless I missed someone else) was PBC, but she was quiet during the night.

So maybe @DVMDream's muzzle worked on serher and she is a wolf, and PBC is a villager. Or something else happened that cancelled last night's attack.
 
I have to say that I can see where @cdoconn is coming from with regard to not thinking serher is a wolf based on talking to her in PM.
 
mmmdreamerz said:
I have to say that I can see where @cdoconn is coming from with regard to not thinking serher is a wolf based on talking to her in PM.
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I am going to disagree, she was fairly rapidly posting in pms to me, from a quick check in post. I felt like she wasn't Wolfy before, but with a little pressure on, I am buying into the wolfiness a bit more
 
SummerTheLynx said:
I am going to disagree, she was fairly rapidly posting in pms to me, from a quick check in post. I felt like she wasn't Wolfy before, but with a little pressure on, I am buying into the wolfiness a bit more
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Fair enough. Especially with what we talked about in the beginning...
 
SummerTheLynx said:
I am going to disagree, she was fairly rapidly posting in pms to me, from a quick check in post. I felt like she wasn't Wolfy before, but with a little pressure on, I am buying into the wolfiness a bit more
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Meh. I posted most of what I sent to you on the thread.
 
cdoconn said:
I don't know about the serher lynch. I talked to her when she was in my group yesterday, and I really don't think she's wolfy!
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Cdo, I want you to think very hard about all iterations of what there could be in the game. I want you to think of what roles wolves have had in the past. I want you to think of everything. Serher is leaning heavily on your vouch in pm. After thinking very hard about what can be seen within a game, do you have reasonable evidence to assume she is not a wolf?
 
I am almost offended by how stupid a wolf you guys think I am :laugh: I thought I did a pretty good job last game...
 
serher said:
I am almost offended by how stupid a wolf you guys think I am I thought I did a pretty good job last game...
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You DID do a good job last game. But you also weren't under any pressure for literally the whole game, so there is no basis to determine how you would react. And I would argue that if you're a wolf this time, you're also doing a good job, because you managed to convince quite a few people (myself included) of your villageryness early on.


sent from ma fone
 
I guess I am more saying that some decisions the wolves have been making this game, I absolutely would not have consented to if I was a wolf with them. Yeah take this with a grain of salt or whatever since people think I am full of bs, but that's more of what I'm getting at.

eta: and with my flailing around lynch time with the Coopah vote. No way would I have chose to do that as a wolf. I was vacillating with the role reveal because I couldn't figure out if it was real or not. I have been told that these arguments mean nothing but I am saying it anyway.
 
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serher said:
I guess I am more saying that some decisions the wolves have been making this game, I absolutely would not have consented to if I was a wolf with them. Yeah take this with a grain of salt or whatever since people think I am full of bs, but that's more of what I'm getting at.

eta: and with my flailing around lynch time with the Coopah vote. No way would I have chose to do that as a wolf. I was vacillating with the role reveal because I couldn't figure out if it was real or not. I have been told that these arguments mean nothing but I am saying it anyway.
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What things have the wolfs done this game that you would not agree with?
 
Great Butts said:
No, the restriction was for the day cycle but I came in super late and missed my PMs, so I ended up keeping the restriction until the AM.

I was also given the restriction from a super adorable kitten that made me confused as heck, so I figured that must have been what happened to you. The only kitten that I know of (unless I missed someone else) was PBC, but she was quiet during the night.

So maybe @DVMDream's muzzle worked on serher and she is a wolf, and PBC is a villager. Or something else happened that cancelled last night's attack.
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And last possibility.. they could still both be wolves.

Yes, we had 3 deaths the prior night but we think 1 was village assassin and there could be something like a wolf having an extra kill on certain nights. Just all things to think about.
 
serher said:
loooool well this is quite the pickle for me, isn't it! I should have a fun time trying to get out of this. Here are some possibilities I have thought of so far:
  • the target of the kill was protected
  • the killer (who in this option, isn't me) was blocked, by either a person or another item
  • the killer (who in this case, is me) was blocked by the muzzle
  • conversion
  • the wolves didn't kill last night, knowing there was an item to prevent kills, hoping it would frame whoever the item was used on (lucky me!)
1/5 options I have thought of so far implicate me. I know you guys are already suspicious of me, so lynch me for that if you would like, but just jumping on me without exploring the options for what happened overnight doesn't seem like a good idea.

As an add on, I think that it would have been awfully bold of me to attempt the kill last night if I am a wolf (which I'm not). You guys were talking about me last evening as a potential lynch target for today. Why draw more attention toward myself?
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The last option is basically wolf suicide. Yes, there are other possibilities for what happened, stated as such in my initial post.

The question now is..what other way do we have to clear you and is it worth it to wait to do that or is it best to lynch you today to get the answer on if you are wolf or villager. I'd hold off lynching you if you had a good villager ability that we couldn't afford to lose, then use whatever means possible to clear you but seeing as that isn't the case, the best way to know for sure is to lynch you.

I'm still going to hold off on that because I want more discussing to occur about other players. In particular, PBC.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
Also @PippyPony i definitely want to hear from you still...
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Hear what, specifically?

I don't feel particularly better about you after doing a partial re-read last night, if that's what you're looking for. The PM stuff you tried to pull with me at the beginning of the game was ridiculous, and since then you've been subtlety pushing lynches on villagers. You're now oscillating between seeming legitimately helpful and seeming overly helpful, and combined with how quickly villagers are dying, I just don't like it.

I unlynched you this morning because I'm more curious to see where this theory on serher goes and I agree she could use a little pressure to see how she reacts, but you are still high on my suspicion list.

sent from ma fone
 
PippyPony said:
Hear what, specifically?

I don't feel particularly better about you after doing a partial re-read last night, if that's what you're looking for. The PM stuff you tried to pull with me at the beginning of the game was ridiculous, and since then you've been subtlety pushing lynches on villagers. You're now oscillating between seeming legitimately helpful and seeming overly helpful, and combined with how quickly villagers are dying, I just don't like it.

I unlynched you this morning because I'm more curious to see where this theory on serher goes and I agree she could use a little pressure to see how she reacts, but you are still high on my suspicion list.

sent from ma fone
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Thoughts, have things changed on your end, etc.

Lol I wasn't looking for a read on me, but that's fair. And subtly pushing lynches on villagers? My philosophy is that eggs need to be cracked, and sometimes it's a villager, but it leads us to more information. And please tell me, how is one "overly helpful". this is the second time it's been thrown around this game, and I am very curious what is meant by this. And we have had what, two villagers lynched thus far? That is normal. 1 out of 3 early on is good. It's kind of sketch implying that 2 villagers lynched is "villagers quickly dying"
 
SummerTheLynx said:
Thoughts, have things changed on your end, etc.

Lol I wasn't looking for a read on me, but that's fair. And subtly pushing lynches on villagers? My philosophy is that eggs need to be cracked, and sometimes it's a villager, but it leads us to more information. And please tell me, how is one "overly helpful". this is the second time it's been thrown around this game, and I am very curious what is meant by this. And we have had what, two villagers lynched thus far? That is normal. 1 out of 3 early on is good. It's kind of sketch implying that 2 villagers lynched is "villagers quickly dying"
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As I said to DVMD yesterday, I am not concerned about the villager lynches in and of themselves. I am concerned about them in combination with losing 3 villagers at once the other night. It was a fast reduction in numbers, and I think it speaks to the need to be increasingly cautious as we get towards end-game instead of just lynching villagers willy-nilly to "break eggs."

Re: overly helpful:

SummerTheLynx said:
C'mon MJ, this is just where you are relying on pms and roles, which is only half the game (or even less I would argue). Look a little bit on the thread, take a look at current theories, give us your thoughts. Based on post analysis, who looks wolfy in your eyes, who looks villager, etc.
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SummerTheLynx said:
I am curious where your logic is. It helps the village to get a possible wolves ideas on the thread. I have pushed people to post that seem to be fading into the background with their thoughts. MJ is another one that is doing that, even though I have him safely in my villager column right now.

Another thing I will add since you haven't played with me. I know I will be lynched every game by day 8. It is rare for wolves to kill me as I will always be sketch to people by about day 4/5. If I am a wolf, I play a long game that will benefit other wolves, not benefit myself, as quite honestly, the only way I stay alive past my experiation date as a wolf is by busing other wolves (or tricking my fiance into vouching for me, but that's a different story). And that is only a short extension. I can only think of one game where I effectively had villagers fooled (outside of fiance bit), it was in the lounge, and they had a villager role that could look at the remaining wolves, and kill 1 of them (while sarcificing themselves). They chose me. I had also bused like 5 wolves that game.
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SummerTheLynx said:
Cdo, I want you to think very hard about all iterations of what there could be in the game. I want you to think of what roles wolves have had in the past. I want you to think of everything. Serher is leaning heavily on your vouch in pm. After thinking very hard about what can be seen within a game, do you have reasonable evidence to assume she is not a wolf?
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All of these posts seem helpful in terms of content, but there is an almost patronizing tone to them. During the last game you busted out a couple posts like this when you were the neutral serial killer. That's what I mean by overly helpful.

Will post updated reads on others in a little while after I do some real-life things like grocery shopping.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
Cdo, I want you to think very hard about all iterations of what there could be in the game. I want you to think of what roles wolves have had in the past. I want you to think of everything. Serher is leaning heavily on your vouch in pm. After thinking very hard about what can be seen within a game, do you have reasonable evidence to assume she is not a wolf?
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I... don't know. She role revealed to me (before everyone else did) and she told me enough that it definitely lowered my suspicions. I really think she could be a villager- but I don't have absolute certainty because she could easily be making everything up.

It could either be a great wolf play, or an very desperate villager.

I'll get back to you in a bit. I need to double check the PMs to see what's going on
 
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Can I be added to the spectator chat pretty please? 🙂 Or dead chat if there's a separate one.
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Just letting you know that I see all of your questions. I just got back from a vet appointment, so give me a while to eat and get all caught up so I can address everything.
 
serher said:
Just letting you know that I see all of your questions. I just got back from a vet appointment, so give me a while to eat and get all caught up so I can address everything.
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Are you going with radiation treatment or methimazole?
 
Jilary said:
What things have the wolfs done this game that you would not agree with?
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WildZoo said:
@serher I was going to ask this same question...gets WIFOM as hell but still would like to know
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Unfortunately I have already posted both of my main points, so I am going to try and explain them a little better. I know you guys probably won't be able to see my arguments since I'm so sketch, but I'm really putting in a lot of effort to express my ideas clearly so please don't just completely shut them down. It's fine if you don't agree though and I will gladly respond to counter points.

My first point was about killing karabou. I could tell D1 just by pm'ing her that she was going to be a good source of information. She was very straightforward about who she wanted to look into further, sharing info if I asked a question, etc. And she said that she wasn't getting wolfy vibes for me on the thread (one of few people who did this). She didn't post anything on the thread that would have implied she had a power role. So if I am a wolf in this position, could my fellow wolves really have had that compelling of an argument that I would agree to get rid of her D1? Even if they had an inkling that she had a role (which I personally didn't see at all) or had another reason they wanted her dead, could it have really been that important that I would "okay" it D1? Maybe D2 or D3 if they were really concerned about her, but D1 is really pushing it in my opinion. I would have wanted to give myself a fighting chance because suspicion had already been thrown my way D1, and that would involve keeping karabou (a source of info and someone who would potentially vouch for me).

Secondly, I would not have let my fellow wolves convince me to kill someone last night. Let's say there are 3 original wolves right now (my original guess was 4+1 convert). Last game as wolves, we had several wolves thrown out as suspects almost immediately within the first few days. We always had the least suspect wolves perform the kills. I am pretty sure there were no exceptions to that last game. I wouldn't be surprised if 1-2 of the current wolves are completely under the radar right now. Unless those 1-2 wolves had extremely important abilities we absolutely needed to use last night, I really cannot see myself or my fellow wolves agreeing that me killing last night was a good idea. My name was being thrown around before night close as a top lynch candidate for today. I simply would not have agreed to draw that much attention toward myself.

I will be doing a more detailed run through of the game to see if I missed any other things, but those are the two I thought of off the top of my head.
 
nyanko said:
How would the wolves know there was an item to prevent kills?
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Okay yeah after I posted I realized that was an extremely unlikely thought lol. A better one would be "the wolves for some reason chose not to kill last night," which I realize is still very unlikely. But I'm trying to start a conversation about possibilities, not necessarily claiming they are the most likely
 
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