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Interesting. Still think either could have copied the words so not sure which one you think is lying?
WWho Let the Dogs Out? - Game Thread
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In b4 AM stays on Sporty every day until sporty gets lynched
What about PMing made you suspicious?
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Unofficial D2 Lynch Tally
Cray () -
Sporty (2) - AMSAR, Stagg
Paws (1) - grebes
shelter (5) - mpm, Lawpy, Pippy, MJ, Cait
grebes (1) - Beagle
AMSAR (2) - shelter, zigzag
11/23
lynch close in ~2.5 hours
Cray () -
Sporty (2) - AMSAR, Stagg
Paws (1) - grebes
shelter (5) - mpm, Lawpy, Pippy, MJ, Cait
grebes (1) - Beagle
AMSAR (2) - shelter, zigzag
11/23
lynch close in ~2.5 hours
I'm not even sure one of them is lying.
If, for example, we could nail things down to them being blocked by a wolf blocker who's still out there, it would mean a ~mild~ village checkmark to each/either of them.
And if we were able to eventually lynch that wolf blocker and saw that they got a double block EON or something...I think it would mean a slightly bigger village checkmark on the people who have been blocked.
On the other hand, if we have no more double blocks, and we later lynch a wolf blocker, then I think I would be more inclined to lynch one of the two of them, because either they were blocked by a suspicious Mel & it went through even though he died, or one of them is lying.
In the process of catching up so bear with me please
This is why I'm reticent to read too much into the kill targets. On the one hand it seems noobish to kill veteran players, on the other hand I could easily justify why veteran wolves would have picked the players who have been night killed so far so I'm not sure if reading into it at this point will net us anything
I'm hoping this got answered later in the thread. Keeping an eye out for it while I catch up
Unrelated to the game, I hope your dog is feeling better and you have some good diet topics to discuss next time you bring him in to get this worked up
Backing down and re-clarifying so quickly reads a little off to me, so this post bothered me a bit mom
I'm sure you've gotten comments about this from other players by now, but I would appreciate slightly fewer didactic posts and more strategy posts. It's not that your didactic posts are bad or wrong, just that they could be easy cover for a woof and I'd like to hear more of your thoughts because you are an insightful player from what I've seenLol, you're good. For now I've got you as village, just initially confused by your initial confusion.
As Capri already said, it wasn't the concern that was the issue. It was that she came on thread and seemed to be freaking out. That's a pretty extreme reaction imo.
Dirks is still alive in the noob game, so I'm cutting him and Ziggy slack for now in terms of participation this game until WWNoobs ends.
A side note that has been mentioned in dead chat and by a few manators since you mentioned in the Noob game that you won't/don't want to lynch people unless you're 100% sure: You're going to lynch villagers. It's going to happen. A LOT. You're even going to lynch power roles, probably more often than you will lynch wolves. Also, it will be pretty rare when you will have the kind of confirmation about a wolf that you had with Grebes, Pickles, and myself in the noob game and will sometimes just have to go with your feelz. It's an unfortunate position for village, but that's WW. So when the other game ends I would like to hear your reads on who you think is most sketch, even if they are just based on feelz.
Doesn't that just come with being a #sketchmason?
I get where people are coming from, but in the Noob game everything I said in terms of "teaching" came from a 100% neutral place. If people disagree with my opinions then please speak up, as I don't want to be teaching anything that is incorrect. If I'm that terrible I'll just stop teaching altogether.
That being said, I still am not convinced the Skim role reveal was in the best interest of village and I explained why here:
Yea, I get why she did it and I don't think it was the worst move ever. I just don't think she needed to given it would be revealed if she died and if she had somehow survived then she just handed the wolves essential information.
I don't have anything to add except that this post contains good insight
I probably shouldn't have added that as nothing about my PM really pointed at AM or anything. I just know I can't commit a lot of time to this game currently with the noob game still goin on and so I wanted to get a Lynch vote out there. The first thing that jumped out to me while skimming the thread was the claim that 2 people were blocked. It could totally be legit but then I wonder why 2 weren't blocked d1 like others have mentioned.
Idk really how PMing is supposed to work as this is the first game I have done it in. Is it a faux pas to reveal who you Pm'd with?
Just rewatched this video and it is gold. It also establishes that I say "who let the dogs out" way too frequently and people probably don't think I am funny
Edit: to condense two OT posts
I am also jealous of whoever got greyhound or another sighthound 😉
I will say that I thought it was a bit strange from a timing perspective that we had a delay kill on N1 that led to two people dying during the first lynch, and then now two people blocked on N2, with the village blocker presumably dead. Kinda seemed like it could be a mod compensatory mechanism for the delay kill to give the woofs a boost the following night. Although I guess it also makes sense to have a delay kill on N1 if you're starting on a night cycle, because otherwise the night kill target wouldn't have a chance to play.
idk, I could be totally making **** up though, too. It's really too early for mechanics patterns. I just can't help it -- it's how my mind works: want to see patterns everywhere, all the time
idk, I could be totally making **** up though, too. It's really too early for mechanics patterns. I just can't help it -- it's how my mind works: want to see patterns everywhere, all the time
Pls tell me ppl followed LIS rule and lynched them
Not really, I think I remember AM voting first and firguring things out later. I can't remember the game, but I remember LIS giving village points for it and I think it stuck. Must've been a long time ago now but I don't think it's weird.
I think skim also thought AM should've gotten night results that cleared skim, but AM voted there anyways and is therefore sketch. But I don't understand how AM was supposed to know it was skim? Has anyone got the answer to this yet and I missed it?
I love itThis sounds unreasonably logical, are you being coached?
balls, mel always sketches me tf out. Wrong again, I cannot read that dude.
God, so much sketch. This is called sheeping for the record.
Just saying, as a woof I typically want to kill the people who I know are going to see that I'm a woof immediately. Just saying.
This is stupid at this point it's a bandwagon and of course there are flips it was like d1! I know let the other people respond first but honestly this is a stupid lynch.
Dude seriously? Her role was already outted! Tell me I just missed something and you're saying in general and not this specific case
yeah it happens, but usually retaliatory votes are bad logic. She voted for me so she MUST be a wolf. I don't see her explaining anything beyond caller her out for a couple of posts so this is a bad lynch.
Wait but she didn't role reveal???
Ok but then I just wouldn't respond to anything ever. It's already been discussed right? but especially on fantasy land time (PST) it's sometimes impossible to have original thoughts because everyone is already posting and you've been dead to the world.
Didn't actually mean to respond to this post there was a different on but I don't feel like finding it. Is this format better for you?
And enough about the two blockers bit, we've had that plenty of times before and it's just distracting at this point. If the trend of two people being blocked continues we'll know there are two blockers, they both might even not be wolfy. It's happened. Ok all caught up (legit might have missed a page or two but whatevs)
Lynch grebs
totally willing to go AM though, despite my defense about that one point. just a few things she said
Edit: whoops for some reason I thought shelter was paws and I don't object as much... carry on 😎
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Eh doesn't matter much
They didn't Lynch me. Why does everyone have this rule? I don't understand. Why is it suspicious to Lynch oneself? Just trying not to make an uninformed choice while also actually voting. I am sketched out about not lynching after the situation going on in the noob gamePls tell me ppl followed LIS rule and lynched them
Not really, I think I remember AM voting first and firguring things out later. I can't remember the game, but I remember LIS giving village points for it and I think it stuck. Must've been a long time ago now but I don't think it's weird.
I think skim also thought AM should've gotten night results that cleared skim, but AM voted there anyways and is therefore sketch. But I don't understand how AM was supposed to know it was skim? Has anyone got the answer to this yet and I missed it?
This sounds unreasonably logical, are you being coached?
balls, mel always sketches me tf out. Wrong again, I cannot read that dude.
God, so much sketch. This is called sheeping for the record.
Just saying, as a woof I typically want to kill the people who I know are going to see that I'm a woof immediately. Just saying.
Just saying, as a woof I typically want to kill the people who I know are going to see that I'm a woof immediately. Just saying.
This is stupid at this point it's a bandwagon and of course there are flips it was like d1! I know let the other people respond first but honestly this is a stupid lynch.
Dude seriously? Her role was already outted! Tell me I just missed something and you're saying in general and not this specific case
yeah it happens, but usually retaliatory votes are bad logic. She voted for me so she MUST be a wolf. I don't see her explaining anything beyond caller her out for a couple of posts so this is a bad lynch.
Wait but she didn't role reveal???
Ok but then I just wouldn't respond to anything ever. It's already been discussed right? but especially on fantasy land time (PST) it's sometimes impossible to have original thoughts because everyone is already posting and you've been dead to the world.
Didn't actually mean to respond to this post there was a different on but I don't feel like finding it. Is this format better for you?
And enough about the two blockers bit, we've had that plenty of times before and it's just distracting at this point. If the trend of two people being blocked continues we'll know there are two blockers, they both might even not be wolfy. It's happened. Ok all caught up (legit might have missed a page or two but whatevs)
Lynch grebs
totally willing to go AM though, despite my defense about that one point. just a few things she said
@Coopah
As I said earlier, that was more referring to cray than you. I think I came back to two posts of new pages mostly from her last night.
But also, you asked a bunch of questions of Skim that we have no way to get any info for. And we know her roll and affiliation now. Those posts seem pointless a day later.
As I said earlier, that was more referring to cray than you. I think I came back to two posts of new pages mostly from her last night.
But also, you asked a bunch of questions of Skim that we have no way to get any info for. And we know her roll and affiliation now. Those posts seem pointless a day later.
Pls tell me ppl followed LIS rule and lynched them
Not really, I think I remember AM voting first and firguring things out later. I can't remember the game, but I remember LIS giving village points for it and I think it stuck. Must've been a long time ago now but I don't think it's weird.
I think skim also thought AM should've gotten night results that cleared skim, but AM voted there anyways and is therefore sketch. But I don't understand how AM was supposed to know it was skim? Has anyone got the answer to this yet and I missed it?
This sounds unreasonably logical, are you being coached?
balls, mel always sketches me tf out. Wrong again, I cannot read that dude.
God, so much sketch. This is called sheeping for the record.
Just saying, as a woof I typically want to kill the people who I know are going to see that I'm a woof immediately. Just saying.
Just saying, as a woof I typically want to kill the people who I know are going to see that I'm a woof immediately. Just saying.
This is stupid at this point it's a bandwagon and of course there are flips it was like d1! I know let the other people respond first but honestly this is a stupid lynch.
Dude seriously? Her role was already outted! Tell me I just missed something and you're saying in general and not this specific case
yeah it happens, but usually retaliatory votes are bad logic. She voted for me so she MUST be a wolf. I don't see her explaining anything beyond caller her out for a couple of posts so this is a bad lynch.
Wait but she didn't role reveal???
Ok but then I just wouldn't respond to anything ever. It's already been discussed right? but especially on fantasy land time (PST) it's sometimes impossible to have original thoughts because everyone is already posting and you've been dead to the world.
Didn't actually mean to respond to this post there was a different on but I don't feel like finding it. Is this format better for you?
And enough about the two blockers bit, we've had that plenty of times before and it's just distracting at this point. If the trend of two people being blocked continues we'll know there are two blockers, they both might even not be wolfy. It's happened. Ok all caught up (legit might have missed a page or two but whatevs)
Lynch grebs
totally willing to go AM though, despite my defense about that one point. just a few things she said
The pattern of 2 blocks will most likely not continue, as one of the blockers (or perhaps the only one) was killed.
You don't understand why lynching yourself -- presumably who (whom? brain no werk) you know to be a villager -- is a worse choice than lynching someone else who is an unknown?
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Please, do expand on these thoughts
Retaliatiory lynches usually only net hurt feelings ime
This is also reading slightly off to me
And this is a very opportunistic lynch vote, lawpy
- Please tell me more about your curling tournament and how you do
- Please tell me more about your village feels specifically for Matty ice and paws
- Please tell me more about your wolf feels on moose and pipperoo
This felt weird to me. Putting that on the back burner for now
How do you know kills are assigned to an individual player?
There had better be some good explanations on the next page of game thread.
I have some separate theories of my own but will post them once I finish catching up
I see your point, but at that time I didn't know if her delayed death went through, and still if AM had answers to their supposed interactions that'd be helpful. So, no it's not pointless.
Personally I’d like more info about her.
She was super aggressive about my wanting to know more about the two blocks, when clearly it’s not an insane question when others have brought it up since.
Then people said she never gives info, but answered my questions after I expressed suspicions about how she was acting.
So I don’t know what to think of her play now.
I know it's overwhelming to play in 2 games at once, especially as a new player hut try your best! So why did you add the part about PMing being part of your reasons for AM being sketch?
I think it almost helps to know who people are PMing with. If we know, we can be suspicious of those players if said person gets killed.
I guess I don’t understand why people wouldn’t read the current on goings before going back.
I always start at the present and then read back, to avoid responding to things that have been answered later.
But apparently VMH also does this, so I guess I’ll shut up about thinking it’s post padding lol
I always start at the present and then read back, to avoid responding to things that have been answered later.
But apparently VMH also does this, so I guess I’ll shut up about thinking it’s post padding lol
I don't see how either of you could know this for certain unless you knew something about the remaining blocker(s), or had some reason to believe that Mel's block went through the night he died, which would be unusual.
Edit: or you know for a fact that one of them is lying. But if that's the case, then pony up with that info, please
Good point. I was PMing with Sporty n1.
She just said she had feels, nothing deep really. I don't wanna throw anyone under the bus...
We also know everyone can pm with their group cuz it's in the rules. I agree with Alliehs, why use it as a reason? AM even asked for clarification on it and you haven't responded. You also said the pm "led you" to be suspicious so were you saying it was an interaction with AM or did someone else make you suspicious?
Which is why I would argue that people should read the thread in its entirety when getting caught up so they can see what happens.... Then go back and comment on things they want 🙂
I'm confused, I'm saying how would we have two blocks in the future if Mel is dead?
Well... That's why I said most likely. I don't know anything for sure, just speculating.
Are my comments invisible or something? Do you want me to fill this page about how mechanics discussion bothers me?
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So much this lol
Do you ever read any of my posts these days, or have you just written me off as a crotchety, old, out-of-touch manator?
You have the power to move the discussion in other directions.
How do you feel about how the lynch is currently shaping up?
It's dumb. For the fifth time in two days, I will say I'm suspecting Sporty, am lynching Sporty, and can quote the reasoning again if it was somehow ignored.
Am I supposed to be Pming with my group? I am in no PM
Do you have any questions for Sporty, or any questions for anyone who is moving the lynch away from Sporty?
How do you feel about the 2 people who you were interested in hearing more from?
Yes. I would like to know her reads at some point. jboo, I'm fine with; SAR is not. SAR thinks Caiter is okay but I'm just not understanding her.
ETA: The sad thing is I think most of the people on my lynch are village and are just not reading/jumping to conclusion as always.
So sporty said she thought AM was sketchy and you agree? It's interesting that sporty is pming out of her group, she has not opted to pm with me, not sure about any of the other people in our group
I feel like you’re being purposefully obtuse in not understanding my questions lol
I’m not the only person questioning you.
Can't please everyone, also I just can't do it. A) too lazy, I wouldn't go back to quote B) I had another point but forgot it.
I do however think the second format fixes those problems eh? ok enough about posting styles as they are not helpful to woof hunting (from me anyways, not trying to throw shade)
Huh.. Yeah I thought you could only PM within your group
you don't have to be, it's just weird that the only pm you are in is someone not in your group
Thanks. It hasn't improved and I'm still concerned, but it hasn't changed any in the last few hours so I'm gonna try to stop panicking for a little bit.
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We may have similar theories.
*shakes fist* these dang mods
Are you really even playing with AM if you don't want to light her on fire at least once?
Tell me more about your AM thoughtsI don't mind a little heat. Enjoy it, in fact
I'm a vanilla sheltie. I do nothing but sit here and be useless, same as irl!
I was gonna reiterate that I just have trouble coming up with reads at the start of games, but I think you guys are the same way if you think lynching me is a good idea.
Thats all I got! Have fun 😉
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Tell me more about your AM thoughts
That's how I felt when Mel was taken out. I was originally taken aback by Mel's upfront questioning, but the way HE (I know now) explained himself really settled him for me. But I think because he seemed like he knew what he was doing is why he was targeted. Which sucks cause I liked how he was going about things. The fact that he had a decent ability made me slightly off put though, but I seriously doubt that he would have indicated anything this early.
Because they have been for every single game I've ever played on here?
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Lynch sporty
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I'm more inclined to trust AM early game and I think it's interesting if sporty picked a noob to pm with ( that being said I don't currently know how or who set up the pm)
Lynch sporty
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I'm more inclined to trust AM early game and I think it's interesting if sporty picked a noob to pm with ( that being said I don't currently know how or who set up the pm)
So do you think Sporty's role could be opening PMs? If so, do you feel like that's wolfy?
