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This thing is moving way too fast, don't any of you go to class?
Nope. Especially for the metabolism lectures... they are all recorded and online.
This thing is moving way too fast, don't any of you go to class?
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Yes, if I were 100% sure that you and Doc were villagers I would agree that random is better than losing a guaranteed villager, but the only thing I have saying you are a villager is your word and I'm not sure I can trust it.
Eh. I had no real need to admit to being Lila OR to having killed Orca. I could have just as easily said "DocE is lying". Either an investigation or my death would have born that out because all you would have known is that I appear to be Sgt. Doakes. I've been told by the mod that that's how I would have been (will be?) id'd upon death. So think about that - why would I open up, admit who I am and bring all that information about the pinkies (and Orca's death) to the table, unless I was a villager and trying to help the villagers get after the actual wolves.
All I had to do was say "DocE is lying, I'm Sgt. Doakes." He would have gone down - he was already up in the lynch count, and I certainly could have thrown another defensible vote that way.
I'm sticking with my vote from yesterday.
*****lynch kpowell*****
She was also instrumental in the lupin bandwagon.
True. But we would have figured out that Doc was not lying when he died and then you would have gone down anyway.
I honestly don't know what to believe, because I could see SOV making a character like you are claiming but I can also see you coming up with this story. I am still thinking on it, which is why I have not voted yet. But, I don't think kpowell is the right way to go when if you look back you can see that swings ever so slightly backed her up, which means we are back to a random lynch.
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Hey, Lupin! We're gonna lynch ya cause your name means wolf!!
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He he he.
Even MrsSOV said to me you had to be a wolf when she saw you had signed up for my game. Time for you and WS to change your names.
I sorta agree with you on kpowell. But I also know that DocE and I are villagers.
As far as DocE not lying and me going down ... sure ... but I could have taken a villager with me if I were a wolf, which I would have done. By coming out, I get him out of the lynch (probably), and I put myself in the crosshairs (definitely). That really seem like a wolf move to you? And if we were both wolves, it'd be even more insane; I'd want as much distance as possible.
Bottom line is that we're villagers. You can start looking for real wolves (if, in fact, you aren't one - something I'm really, really wondering about since you don't seem all that concerned about actually finding any), or you can keep trying to decide which villager to lynch.
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Hey, Lupin! We're gonna lynch ya cause your name means wolf!! And last minute cause you can't defend yourself against such incriminating evidence!
Good luck anyways villagers. I hope your next few lynches go a little better!
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And Nohika, a lot of people aren't playing like they 'normally' do. DVMD, Devyn, DocE, etc. I'm not even sure what my 'normal' play style is. I have been popping in and out of work the last few days. Maybe that's what you are seeing?
I would like an explanation of how I am not playing like I "normally" do, whatever that is. I am being just as active and trying to figure things out just as much as others here, if not more so... so please explain what you mean when you claim I am not playing like "normal".
I would like an explanation of how I am not playing like I "normally" do, whatever that is. I am being just as active and trying to figure things out just as much as others here, if not more so... so please explain what you mean when you claim I am not playing like "normal".
Normally by now you're talking about your suspicions and stating that you have a few people on your list, etcetcetc.
And WS, you just aren't as...I don't know. Not as strategic as you normally have been.
WW weather .
I think the fact that you havent actively attempted to lynch me yet makes it abnormal for you. And the fact that I havent tried to kill you or LIS makes it abnormal for me.
The fact that WS is still alive at round... what... 4? makes it unusual for them.
Most importantly: This is a game with jack **** PMing
The seer is dead
Everyone has a role they can claim
I'm basically the only player who brings absolutely nothing to the table, everyone is going to do some tiny useful thing, and I cant lynch myself (well I could. But i wont)
I am all for reasoned logical kills and never taking the random kill. I also realize that I refuse to sit on my hands and go "oh no. oh woe is me. I have no solid facts to hang my hat on." The solid facts will never come. This will be an old school WW weather SOV (or any of us) intended it to be or not. The biggest thrill in this game is making gigantic logical leaps to try to pin someone down on a lynch you're only 20% confident of.....and then it being right.
So if people dont like the kpowell one, I have two other people I would love to lynch just based on be being a grumpy old school player who has no problems killing someone and being wrong as long as the game keeps moving. So that's fine by me.
Normally by now you're talking about your suspicions and stating that you have a few people on your list, etcetcetc.
And WS, you just aren't as...I don't know. Not as strategic as you normally have been.
**************************Trying to decide if WW weather is cold and rainy or just a clear, cold moonlit night.
I kind of think of the former myself (due to the killing).
Well then lets do it this way. People seem to be iffy on the kpowell lynch. (Im still willing to kill them. I have dedication to my kills haha) On the other hand I know I'm not the other one who is feeling very shifty on a different person.
unlych kpowell, lynch DVMDream
Because I know straight up I am innocent and DVM is either an extremely important role or a wolf. They're playing like that (trying to keep legit conversation going without drawing too much attention themself) and its how Ive seen her (I got the gender right) pull both of those roles that way. And I welcome any backlash I might get. I have nothing to lose, role-wise.
And you can say you are a villager until you are blue in the face, so can I, do you trust me now? If I repeat over and over again that I am a villager, does that make me more trustworthy?
I can see the arguments being made for tropic.. those actually make sense and are some decent thoughts.
I am just trying to determine how much of the benefit of the doubt I want to give you.... because that is all that is keeping me from lynching you... is this slight bit of doubt that I have in my gut that perhaps you really are not a wolf or part of another group that can still kill.
Yes, a "seer" role died... who said that was the only one? Did I miss that part somewhere?
Doc, the only reason I have not actively lynched you is because nohika has backed you up... otherwise, I have no qualms lynching you.
Did anyone see my comment about LIS happening to find the one person who was Doakes? What are peoples' thoughts on that?
DVMD has definitely been voicing suspicions. LIS and DocE are some of them. Where have you been Nohika?
I do have a good role (not even ambiguous) that I can reveal, if needed. I would rather not though.
I don't know everyone else's playing styles very well but I do know that DVMD is usually in one or two people's faces like the whole time =P. Which has been absent but now it's coming out.
Trying to decide if WW weather is cold and rainy or just a clear, cold moonlit night.
I kind of think of the former myself (due to the killing).
DVMD has definitely been voicing suspicions. LIS and DocE are some of them. Where have you been Nohika?
I'm not saying that I think DVMD is not a wolf. She is still on my list, but you can't say she hasn't been contributing. (both you and LIS have said that)
Nohika has work, school, work, meetings, etc. A life. Okay not really that. Been super busy lately and while I can normally get on during work, wasn't able to today. Will be on and off a bit later, though.
I'm not really a big suspicions person. I note things down and see if people are using different word patterns than normal.
LIS, I can see twice during the game whether or not a player is a wolf. That is it. I don't know role names or anything. I can just see their affiliation. That's all I can do while alive. If the wolves would like to see what I can do dead, please try me.
In a no-PM'ing game, I almost think we're better off with *everyone* posting their role and then going after the folks whose roles seem bs or where we have people saying "hey that's my role!".
Yeah, we'd lose a bunch of villagers. But I bet we'd win.
Ok. That said, consider that to be me thinking outloud in the big picture sense. I am not asking you to reveal your role.
Lynch tropictuco
Still have a strange gut feeling that LIS *may* be telling the truth. And the reasoning I have seen with tropic is better than kpowell. I am going to get food, I will be back later. I also ask that someone investigate me... I figure it would be only a matter of time before I become suspicious, because heaven forbid that I actually try to discuss things and figure out what is going on. I can reveal my role as well, if needed. Time for food.
Full disclosure in the endgame, sure. But right away? Seriously?
I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Give me a scenario where I could possibly have known that orcagirl was Doakes. I killed her Night 1, for crying out loud. This is a no PM'ing game. Where'd I get the information for your scenario to be accurate?
The fact is that it was random (ok, not *entirely* random - I picked a player that lived well into the end game of the last WW game just to avoid having someone die early two games in a row).
I'm actually curious how Nohika can vouch for DocE. I'm ok vouching for DocE based on my own info, but ..... only thing is, I don't really want Nohika to answer if it would reveal something we'd rather not have the wolves know. So consider this me not asking, Nohika. Even though it's nagging at me.
I'm actually curious how Nohika can vouch for DocE. I'm ok vouching for DocE based on my own info, but ..... only thing is, I don't really want Nohika to answer if it would reveal something we'd rather not have the wolves know. So consider this me not asking, Nohika. Even though it's nagging at me.
Not specifically I said for the no-PM games.
I meant either "Note that I specifically said for the no-PM games" or "I specifically meant the no-PM games" or some other similar dealio. Not sure.
I swear LIS, if you are playing me, I am mailing you a horse head
I'll give you my thoughts on it.
Give me a scenario where I could possibly have known that orcagirl was Doakes. I killed her Night 1, for crying out loud. This is a no PM'ing game. Where'd I get the information for your scenario to be accurate?
The fact is that it was random (ok, not *entirely* random - I picked a player that lived well into the end game of the last WW game just to avoid having someone die early two games in a row).
I'm actually curious how Nohika can vouch for DocE. I'm ok vouching for DocE based on my own info, but ..... only thing is, I don't really want Nohika to answer if it would reveal something we'd rather not have the wolves know. So consider this me not asking, Nohika. Even though it's nagging at me.
It's obviously not an absolutely no PMing game. Some people can communicate (DocE proved that).
We also have no confirmation that Orcagirl was Sgt. Doakes, just your word.
Senile much??
*Ducks and runs*
Man. People will nitpick anything. *In general* this is a no-PM'ing game, as opposed to the majority of games we play in SDN Pre-Vet WW where we're divided into groups that can talk to each other.
Did I cover all the legalese for you?
Nope. But I think if someone else had it (and it was a pretty major character to be left out), I think I would have been called out. Unless, as you said, I'm in contact with someone who had it. In which case, you have to explain why Lila would have any reason to be in contact with Doakes - which makes no sense.
You keep trying to spin some crazy hypothetical where my story doesn't add up, but all your theoreticals are really, really out there.