2008-2009 Boston Secondary Application Thread

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just got my interview invite email this morning!!!!!!! 😍😍😍

Me too - it was a long wait, I was complete 08/07, so for those of you also in limbo, hang in there!

Also, it's very arrogant to say that if you have high stats and were rejected then it must be that BU thinks you'll go elsewhere. There are many people with high stats who have gotten interviews, so let's refrain from implying that it couldn't possibly be something else about the rejected applications that didn't trip BU's trigger.
 
congrats! when were you complete?
 
I wasn't in anyway being arrogant. I was trying to emphasize the fact that BU is a match school. I wasn't saying that high stats were the sole reason. I was just trying to offer a suggestion in what I thought was a positive way.
 
I wasn't in anyway being arrogant. I was trying to emphasize the fact that BU is a match school. I wasn't saying that high stats were the sole reason. I was just trying to offer a suggestion in what I thought was a positive way.

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They are notorious for rejecting super applicants early in the process, knowing very well that you'll probably pick Yale, Hopkins, Harvard and the like over them.

That's what I was talking about. It's one thing to say that BU is looking for a particular kind of student (which I think is true), it's another to suggest that that sort of student is not the kind top schools would also want.

In any case, you're certainly not the only person saying similar sorts of things, especially over in the rejection thread, so it wasn't directed solely at you. I know we all want to know WHY in this process, but many times it just isn't possible.
 
has anyone NOT completed the secondary essays but got interviews anyway?
i.e. if your stats are close to the normal matriculant? or are the 'optional' essays really 'mandatory'? thanks!
 
has anyone NOT completed the secondary essays but got interviews anyway?
i.e. if your stats are close to the normal matriculant? or are the 'optional' essays really 'mandatory'? thanks!

The "optional" essays are actually optional. That space is really extra space that should only be used if you have something special that will put more light to your file. It shouldn't be an essay of why you like BU and you think it's so great.
 
Me too - it was a long wait, I was complete 08/07, so for those of you also in limbo, hang in there!

Also, it's very arrogant to say that if you have high stats and were rejected then it must be that BU thinks you'll go elsewhere. There are many people with high stats who have gotten interviews, so let's refrain from implying that it couldn't possibly be something else about the rejected applications that didn't trip BU's trigger.

If BU interviewed everybody with high stats, then they would have to interview more applicants as people with high stats will have multiple acceptances.

Personally, I had a high stats and went to BU and felt out of place at the school as a frat house or sorority house atmosphere persists, such that students are made to feel like they are pledges working to be accepted at the school as attendings take a very harsh approach to education. I did not feel like a student doctor in training, but more like a nurse's aide for residents and attendings as you don't get treated like a student, but you will get a lot of verbal abuse there.

You have to question the motives of a BU attending who takes a medical student aside for 15 minutes a day in their office each day and verbally berrates them (me) for being an "idiot".

Happily, after going to a better institution I got at least the civil treatment I needed to be able to learn a lot on the wards. If you have high grades and/or MCATs it is a waste of time to go to BU as you can go to a school that treats its students with the respect they deserve as student doctors. While you may feel "toughened up" by the clinicals at BU, like after having been in military, you won't learn as much if you go to a school that cares more about medical students education and respecting individuals.
 
thanks eagle, does that mean that other than paying a fee and filling in the usual about LORs there's nothing else to do for BU? except for the 'optional' essays...

again - is there anyone that got an interview but left the essays blank?
 
If BU interviewed everybody with high stats, then they would have to interview more applicants as people with high stats will have multiple acceptances.

Personally, I had a high stats and went to BU and felt out of place at the school as a frat house or sorority house atmosphere persists, such that students are made to feel like they are pledges working to be accepted at the school as attendings take a very harsh approach to education. I did not feel like a student doctor in training, but more like a nurse's aide for residents and attendings as you don't get treated like a student, but you will get a lot of verbal abuse there.

You have to question the motives of a BU attending who takes a medical student aside for 15 minutes a day in their office each day and verbally berrates them (me) for being an "idiot".

Happily, after going to a better institution I got at least the civil treatment I needed to be able to learn a lot on the wards. If you have high grades and/or MCATs it is a waste of time to go to BU as you can go to a school that treats its students with the respect they deserve as student doctors. While you may feel "toughened up" by the clinicals at BU, like after having been in military, you won't learn as much if you go to a school that cares more about medical students education and respecting individuals.
wow.. thanks for the info
 
wow that sounds harsh Amelia...are any other schools in the US like that? sorry i'm from Canada so i'm pretty green about everything.

why is it that BU is like that? is this an isolated incident?
 
If BU interviewed everybody with high stats, then they would have to interview more applicants as people with high stats will have multiple acceptances.

Personally, I had a high stats and went to BU and felt out of place at the school as a frat house or sorority house atmosphere persists, such that students are made to feel like they are pledges working to be accepted at the school as attendings take a very harsh approach to education. I did not feel like a student doctor in training, but more like a nurse's aide for residents and attendings as you don't get treated like a student, but you will get a lot of verbal abuse there.

You have to question the motives of a BU attending who takes a medical student aside for 15 minutes a day in their office each day and verbally berrates them (me) for being an "idiot".

Happily, after going to a better institution I got at least the civil treatment I needed to be able to learn a lot on the wards. If you have high grades and/or MCATs it is a waste of time to go to BU as you can go to a school that treats its students with the respect they deserve as student doctors. While you may feel "toughened up" by the clinicals at BU, like after having been in military, you won't learn as much if you go to a school that cares more about medical students education and respecting individuals.

That's really interesting to hear. I don't doubt your experience at all, but to be honest I know 5 people who either are at BU now or went in the past and they all have very positive things to say about it. I was very skeptical of applying, because the BU undergrad experience is notoriously horrible, but the med school seems to have a different vibe. Also, the administration is very responsive to students from what I've heard/seen. I work in ERs around the city, and the nurses at BMC are definitely some of the more cynical/worn-out ones, but I've never found the doctors to be that way.

Anyway, I'm glad you found a better place for yourself, and thanks for sharing, added perspectives never hurt.
 
wow that sounds harsh Amelia...are any other schools in the US like that? sorry i'm from Canada so i'm pretty green about everything.

why is it that BU is like that? is this an isolated incident?

BU I think in general does a poor job of recruiting faculty to work there as many fine attendings have left for elsewhere. Recently, I believe, it was voted that faculty don't need to notify students of how they are doing midway through the clinical clerkships (not that this ever happened anyhow) because they felt that this would somehow keep the faculty, however poor in teaching they were, there at the school, which was deemed as more important than, "fairness to the student."

Basically other places recognize hardworkng students, this school does not as the more "popular" students seem to coast by with doing little work. A lot students and faculty drink heavily too, and look down on people who don't consume as much alcohol.

I doubt anything will change as BU is simply not a good place to work as there are plenty of burnt out doctors. A bad culture to learn in.
 
BU I think in general does a poor job of recruiting faculty to work there as many fine attendings have left for elsewhere. Recently, I believe, it was voted that faculty don't need to notify students of how they are doing midway through the clinical clerkships (not that this ever happened anyhow) because they felt that this would somehow keep the faculty, however poor in teaching they were, there at the school, which was deemed as more important than, "fairness to the student."

Basically other places recognize hardworkng students, this school does not as the more "popular" students seem to coast by with doing little work. A lot students and faculty drink heavily too, and look down on people who don't consume as much alcohol.

I doubt anything will change as BU is simply not a good place to work as there are plenty of burnt out doctors. A bad culture to learn in.

Your opinions are valuable to us pre-meds for deciding what school we want to go to, but this is the wrong thread to give your opinions in. This is a thread for those of us who are in the secondary application stage of applying to BU. What's the point of trying to dissuade/discourage us before we even get in, or, for most of us, before we've even seen the campus and developed our own impression of the school? It would be better if you just made a new thread to discuss your opinions of BU instead of here. It just brings a negative taint to what should be a thread with information on applications/acceptances.

As I said before, I do appreciate your information and will take it into account if I get accepted.
 
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I disagree - I am glad he posted here. It is directly relevant to the school just like the thread. We also talk about interviews, and other school related stuff because it's convenient to have here. I'm glad I saw that info, and wouldn't have if it were some place else. Just my two cents though.
 
I disagree - I am glad he posted here. It is directly relevant to the school just like the thread. We also talk about interviews, and other school related stuff because it's convenient to have here. I'm glad I saw that info, and wouldn't have if it were some place else. Just my two cents though.
i agree with you
 
Your opinions are valuable to us pre-meds for deciding what school we want to go to, but this is the wrong thread to give your opinions in. This is a thread for those of us who are in the secondary application stage of applying to BU. What's the point of trying to dissuade/discourage us before we even get in, or, for most of us, before we've even seen the campus and developed our own impression of the school? It would be better if you just made a new thread to discuss your opinions of BU instead of here. It just brings a negative taint to what should be a thread with information on applications/acceptances.

As I said before, I do appreciate your information and will take it into account if I get accepted.

I'm personally very skeptical of this Amelia reviewer...Trashing a school like this... I'm glad she is not at BU anymore and won't ruin my interview day by such negative attitude. You never know what really happened there...but I wouldn't blindly rely on some angry anonymous post...
 
I'm personally very skeptical of this Amelia reviewer...Trashing a school like this... I'm glad she is not at BU anymore and won't ruin my interview day by such negative attitude. You never know what really happened there...but I wouldn't blindly rely on some angry anonymous post...

I go to BU med and from what I have heard, I know exactly who this reviewer is. If you see his posts, they have been about how bad BU is, and being at BU, I have heard about these reviews and why they are posted. Please take them with a grain of salt. BU is a great school and I am extremely happy there, even if I'm only a first year. However, having met a lot of 3rd and 4th years, just randomly or those 4th years who are TAs and prosectors for anatomy, I asked them about his reviews, and they actually know this person is, as well. All of them completely disagree with his views. I don't know the clinical faculty but I can say that the pre-clinical professors that I have met are great, and all of them are willing to help students out. Please, if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask me. Also, if you get to interview at Tufts, feel free to ask any student or professor about anything, and specifically, ask Dr. Witzburg about his opinion on this reviewer, and you will get to hear the actual story. Again, there are 2 sides of the story and this reviewer is only letting you know one side of it.
 
BU I think in general does a poor job of recruiting faculty to work there as many fine attendings have left for elsewhere. Recently, I believe, it was voted that faculty don't need to notify students of how they are doing midway through the clinical clerkships (not that this ever happened anyhow) because they felt that this would somehow keep the faculty, however poor in teaching they were, there at the school, which was deemed as more important than, "fairness to the student."

Basically other places recognize hardworkng students, this school does not as the more "popular" students seem to coast by with doing little work. A lot students and faculty drink heavily too, and look down on people who don't consume as much alcohol.

I doubt anything will change as BU is simply not a good place to work as there are plenty of burnt out doctors. A bad culture to learn in.

I have no idea where you're getting this stuff. We just had our exam week this week and EVERYONE worked their butts off. I don't understand about this "popular" students stuff, because everyone gets the same MC tests and it's the answers that count, not your "popularity." I don't think the scantron machine adjusts your score based on how "popular" you are. Just to let you know, as well, my incoming class has 178 students with the highest GPA and MCAT in the history of the school. Also, my class has more students than were expected to choose BU, so that's why the class size is a little bigger than they would like. But still, no waitlist movement for second year in a row. I haven't met one person, be they MSI, or MSIV, who has not liked his BU experience and wishes he/she were somewhere else. We're the largest level I trauma center in New England, our patient population is 51% foreign born, and we're all about providing for the diverse and underserved population of Boston and Massachusetts. Yes, there are some negatives, like every other school, the main one which is actually the cost of the school. But I think almost every medical school is expensive, especially in the Boston area, this is an expensive cityto live in. But it's arguably also the best city for medicine in the US, if not the world.

As for the alcohol thing...I can't imagine how that can be true at all! When do you have time to drink so much booze? The med students are busy so much of the time, and if you go out a couple of times a weekend, I don't see anything bad about it, how is that different from college? And for the faculty...I won't even dignify that with a response. From week 1, you learn how much trouble you will be in as a doctor if someone on the job finds that you have been consuming alcohol or using drugs...you're actually required by law to report the doctor who you suspect is under influence, because if someone else finds out about it and then finds out that a doctor knew about the drinking problem but didn't report it, he will also be in trouble. If you come to BU, you will learn all about this in Human Behavior in Medicine, taught by one of the best professors and psychiatrists, Dr. Hughes.

Overall, there are always 2 sides to the story, and only one side is being told here. I hope you will be skeptical of posts that are purely negative and say how terrible BU is. Importantly, these posts ruin BU's reputition and may drive a few students away from either applying in the future or choosing BU if they are accepted, or seeing it in the wrong light when interviewing. Please give BU a fair chance, and when interviewing, let the students tell you about their experience at BU. During the students admissions meeting, Dr. Witzburg tells us to just tell the truth, and don't exagerrate anything, and provide you with our honest opinions. If you don't believe that, stop any random student that you see in the hallway, and ask him or her what they think about BU.

Medical school is hard, and BU is hard. There's no way to get by easily, but professors really do try their best to help you out in any way. This is the reason we have student advisory committees for every class, we have challenge periods for exam questions that aren't fair after every exam, and any professor or administrator will meet with you at any time to discuss a problem.

Now, that's MY 2 cents about BU. Take it as you want.

Btw, I did not go to BU undergrad so I can't say anything about the contrast between the two. But I had a choice between medical schools and I'm happy that I chose BU.
 
I have no idea where you're getting this stuff. We just had our exam week this week and EVERYONE worked their butts off. I don't understand about this "popular" students stuff, because everyone gets the same MC tests and it's the answers that count, not your "popularity." I don't think the scantron machine adjusts your score based on how "popular" you are. Just to let you know, as well, my incoming class has 178 students with the highest GPA and MCAT in the history of the school. Also, my class has more students than were expected to choose BU, so that's why the class size is a little bigger than they would like. But still, no waitlist movement for second year in a row. I haven't met one person, be they MSI, or MSIV, who has not liked his BU experience and wishes he/she were somewhere else. We're the largest level I trauma center in New England, our patient population is 51% foreign born, and we're all about providing for the diverse and underserved population of Boston and Massachusetts. Yes, there are some negatives, like every other school, the main one which is actually the cost of the school. But I think almost every medical school is expensive, especially in the Boston area, this is an expensive cityto live in. But it's arguably also the best city for medicine in the US, if not the world.

As for the alcohol thing...I can't imagine how that can be true at all! When do you have time to drink so much booze? The med students are busy so much of the time, and if you go out a couple of times a weekend, I don't see anything bad about it, how is that different from college? And for the faculty...I won't even dignify that with a response. From week 1, you learn how much trouble you will be in as a doctor if someone on the job finds that you have been consuming alcohol or using drugs...you're actually required by law to report the doctor who you suspect is under influence, because if someone else finds out about it and then finds out that a doctor knew about the drinking problem but didn't report it, he will also be in trouble. If you come to BU, you will learn all about this in Human Behavior in Medicine, taught by one of the best professors and psychiatrists, Dr. Hughes.

Overall, there are always 2 sides to the story, and only one side is being told here. I hope you will be skeptical of posts that are purely negative and say how terrible BU is. Importantly, these posts ruin BU's reputition and may drive a few students away from either applying in the future or choosing BU if they are accepted, or seeing it in the wrong light when interviewing. Please give BU a fair chance, and when interviewing, let the students tell you about their experience at BU. During the students admissions meeting, Dr. Witzburg tells us to just tell the truth, and don't exagerrate anything, and provide you with our honest opinions. If you don't believe that, stop any random student that you see in the hallway, and ask him or her what they think about BU.

Medical school is hard, and BU is hard. There's no way to get by easily, but professors really do try their best to help you out in any way. This is the reason we have student advisory committees for every class, we have challenge periods for exam questions that aren't fair after every exam, and any professor or administrator will meet with you at any time to discuss a problem.

Now, that's MY 2 cents about BU. Take it as you want.

Btw, I did not go to BU undergrad so I can't say anything about the contrast between the two. But I had a choice between medical schools and I'm happy that I chose BU.

Hi all - I'm a second year at BU and I have to completely agree with eagle. To be quite honest, nothing that Amelia said is accurate to BU in my opinion. People who submit unsolicited trash posts about a university...well...there's probably a lot more to that story. Generally people don't transfer medical schools except under very specific circumstances. If people want truthful answers about BU, feel free to PM me.
 
See why this needs to go in another thread, not this one? It's not that these opinions are unwelcome, but they tend to dominate and take over the entire thread...
 
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See why this needs to go in another thread, not this one? It's not that these opinions are unwelcome, but they tend to dominate and take over the entire thread...
Actually, this makes me prefer that it's all in this thread even more - now I've seen both sides.

What do you want to be posted in this thread? Discussion about the mechanics of filling in the BU secondary? It's not that complicated. We are also essentially past that point in the application cycle. This IS called the secondary thread, but I use it more as a general info thread for applicants to BU. It's all relevant to anyone who fills out and submits a secondary.

No one is making you read it.
 
thanks eagle, does that mean that other than paying a fee and filling in the usual about LORs there's nothing else to do for BU? except for the 'optional' essays...

again - is there anyone that got an interview but left the essays blank?

I did not fill out the optional section and got an interview invite yesterday. I was complete on 9/5.

As for BU undergrad being terrible, I have a few friends who went there. Some really liked it, others did not. The school is way too big to make the generalization that all undergrads have poor experiences there.

As for the reviews of BU med being thrown around, all of the information is useful and I'm glad it has been posted on this thread. However, I don't believe the negative or the positive reviews tell the full story. I'm eager to create my own impression when I visit there in a few weeks.
 
I did not fill out the optional section and got an interview invite yesterday. I was complete on 9/5.

As for BU undergrad being terrible, I have a few friends who went there. Some really liked it, others did not. The school is way too big to make the generalization that all undergrads have poor experiences there.

As for the reviews of BU med being thrown around, all of the information is useful and I'm glad it has been posted on this thread. However, I don't believe the negative or the positive reviews tell the full story. I'm eager to create my own impression when I visit there in a few weeks.

congrats! you give me hope 😀
 
For those lucky ones with interviews: where do you plan on staying in Boston? My interview invitation e-mail mentiones a student host list, but it's not attached. Does BU offer staying with a student host? Or is it outdated information?
 
For those lucky ones with interviews: where do you plan on staying in Boston? My interview invitation e-mail mentiones a student host list, but it's not attached. Does BU offer staying with a student host? Or is it outdated information?

Yes, we do offer student hosts. You should call the admissions office and they should e-mail you a list of students who are willing to host. We have a number of them from what I know.
 
Yes, we do offer student hosts. You should call the admissions office and they should e-mail you a list of students who are willing to host. We have a number of them from what I know.

I really appreciate your feedback on BU and thanks for answering my question! I don't think that Amelia's comments will hurt BU's reputation. He is just making a fool of himself, that's all. Those interested in the school will go and judge for themselves. I highly doubt that someone will decide not to apply to BU based on anonymous posts on this forum 🙂
 
I really appreciate your feedback on BU and thanks for answering my question! I don't think that Amelia's comments will hurt BU's reputation. He is just making a fool of himself, that's all. Those interested in the school will go and judge for themselves. I highly doubt that someone will decide not to apply to BU based on anonymous posts on this forum 🙂

I'm glad that I could be of some help to you! I have no problem answering any questions about BU, and I'll be very honest, giving MY opinion on what I like and what I don't like. As for Amelia, I remember his posting a longggg post last year after I interviewed and me thinking "wow, I'd never want to go to a school like that, it must suck if someone hates it this much." But, having done exactly what you say should be done, judging by yourself, I realized how much I liked BU. So anyways, everyone should try to make their own judgment call about BU but if anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. I may see you during the lunch time of interviews...I think a lot of students like doing these lunches, mostly because we want to share own opinion about BU and give some honest feedback and somewhat because of the free food. You'll find out that you schedule your meetings during the day depending on what kind of food is available there haha. Good luck!
 
Dear BU,

Please send me an interview invite tomorrow. Thanks.

Forever yours,

Secret25


PS- congrats to all those who recently got theirs... complete on 8/26 and still waiting... oh bu 🙁
 
Do you think if we haven't gotten an invite and we've been complete for a long time...

could it be because we are on hold?
 
Do you think if we haven't gotten an invite and we've been complete for a long time...

could it be because we are on hold?

It seems like people who have been getting invites (and rejections) have had completion dates all over the place, so maybe they're just doing 2nd (and 3rd and 4th) reviews of our files? I don't really understand what the hold system is, so I don't know.

Either way, come on BU! I'm dying here...
 
70 days since complete and still no decision.

Hi all,
I was complete 7/24 and just got my invite yesterday!! There is hope! I thought for sure I was going to get axed by this school soon, but was so pleasantly surprised. 😀
Good luck to you all who are still in the game!
 
Hi guys,

Is anyone having trouble logging in again? I had the same problems as everyone else last week; then, problems were fixed, and I was logging in fine as recent as yesterday . . . but suddenly it's not working again! ARGH!!!
 
Hi guys,

Is anyone having trouble logging in again? I had the same problems as everyone else last week; then, problems were fixed, and I was logging in fine as recent as yesterday . . . but suddenly it's not working again! ARGH!!!

just tried.. no prob at all
 
just tried.. no prob at all

Thanks. I'm on a different computer now and it's still not working (when I log in it takes me right back to the login page . . . grr!) I know it's not my password because I tried putting a different one in, and then got the "invalid password" message . . . hopefully another e-mail to that AIMSTECH address will do the trick.
 
I just tried to log in in a different browser. I think firefox was giving me problems but when I tried safari or explorer it was ok. Good luck!
 
I sent BU an email and they said I am 'under review'. The only thing is that I've been 'under review' for the past 2 weeks. Anybody else in this same position where they still haven't heard from BU and have been completed for a while?
 
I sent BU an email and they said I am 'under review'. The only thing is that I've been 'under review' for the past 2 weeks. Anybody else in this same position where they still haven't heard from BU and have been completed for a while?

:laugh: 2 weeks is NOTHING my friend. Get settled in for a wait, my complete -> interview invite was 2 months.
 
Haha no actually I was complete about a month and a half ago, its just I called for a status check for the first time about 2 weeks ago and they said I was under review then. Yeah, so I've been complete for a while.
 
I think no news is better than a quick rejection. If you're still under review, that probably means you're going through a few separate reviews to see if they want to call you for an interview or just waiting to offer you a later interview. Remember, LOOOOOTS of applicants.
 
I think no news is better than a quick rejection. If you're still under review, that probably means you're going through a few separate reviews to see if they want to call you for an interview or just waiting to offer you a later interview. Remember, LOOOOOTS of applicants.

Yup, what he said. ^^
 
Has anyone tried calling/emailing BU if complete for over a month?...
 
yupp almost same here. 2 months complete and not a peep apart from those technical diffiuclties and be patient emails.
 
Don't give up guys! I was complete in early Aug and I just got my interview invite yesterday! 🙂
 
I've been complete for over a month now. And I have not received one of those "be patient" emails..
 
ahaha a month is nothing... i onyl got the be patient email 1.5 months after being complete.. but now, more than 2 months of being complete, not a word
 
I was under review for a month, then I got the be patient email, then another month until interview invite.
 
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