2008-2009 Columbia College of P&S Secondary Application Thread

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Timberwolf said:
Waitlisted... At least the letter is somewhat upbeat? Does anyone else's letter say "ultra-high priority waitlist"?
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Oooh...does it really say "ultra"?

Is there a code we can decipher here?
 
Haha, mine says "you were ranked pretty low but we needed one more person on our waitlist just to be sure of filling the class."













Juuuuust kidding. 😉
 
Rejection letter arrived today in the Boston area.
 
finally...rejected, but there's more to life! 😛

congrats on all who got in!
 
chad5871 said:
Rejected?!?!?! 👎 🙁
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Oh no!! I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't know why schools never seem to accept those who want it the most - its totally baffling 😕😕😕

Even though P&S didn't work out, you still have some great options, so at least its something to be optimistic about!

I was rooting for you, though.
 
so it seems like rejection r goin out now...ill be ready for that thin envelop tomorrow 😎
 
Aw man, that's a bummer. I didn't apply to Columbia, but I was rooting for you Chad. I checked in, hoping to hear good news from you. Oh well, you got some good choices under belt. I also applied to VCU and interviewed there. If I get in, maybe I'll see you there. GL Chad.
 
You know, I have a bone to pick with Columbia.

I walked away from my interview feeling SO confident that I would get-in. The interviewer went as far to tell me that I was a "strong applicant," that he was "pleased with my answers," and that he would be rooting for my admission.

And then......BAM! Rejected. I honestly didn't see it coming. I don't know why the interviewer made the effort to be so enthusiastic. Did anyone else have this experience?
 
ya im not gona lie thats messed up. i have had that happen on many of my interviews. this process is so arbitrary dont let that get you down.
 
im sorry chad..🙁
you were actually the only reason I was still hanging around the columbia thread... we really were all rooting for you..
Goodbye Columbia thread..:hello:
 
shelovespianos said:
You know, I have a bone to pick with Columbia.

I walked away from my interview feeling SO confident that I would get-in. The interviewer went as far to tell me that I was a "strong applicant," that he was "pleased with my answers," and that he would be rooting for my admission.

And then......BAM! Rejected. I honestly didn't see it coming. I don't know why the interviewer made the effort to be so enthusiastic. Did anyone else have this experience?
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I can definitely understand how that would be frustrating but I think it happens to a lot of applicants. That's how I felt after my Pitt waitlist. I wouldn't take it personally though. Nobody has an in to Columbia even with a fantastic interview. An interview is only one part of your application and your interviewer is only one voice on the admissions committee. Maybe other parts of your application didn't fit right with Columbia.
 
shelovespianos said:
You know, I have a bone to pick with Columbia.

I walked away from my interview feeling SO confident that I would get-in. The interviewer went as far to tell me that I was a "strong applicant," that he was "pleased with my answers," and that he would be rooting for my admission.

And then......BAM! Rejected. I honestly didn't see it coming. I don't know why the interviewer made the effort to be so enthusiastic. Did anyone else have this experience?
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That's how I felt about Mayo.

It's really an arbitrary process in some ways, unfortunately.

I think in a lot of these situations, the interviews probably did go just as well as we thought they did. The only thing is that there's a whole group of people voting on your candidacy (usually) and only one of them has met you. So even if your interviewer advocated as well as s/he could, it might not be enough to get a positive decision from the rest of the team.
 
pianola said:
I think in a lot of these situations, the interviews probably did go just as well as we thought they did. The only thing is that there's a whole group of people voting on your candidacy (usually) and only one of them has met you. So even if your interviewer advocated as well as s/he could, it might not be enough to get a positive decision from the rest of the team.
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👍

I was talking with a physician who interviews for a Top 5 school, and she basically said "I love interviewing, because 90% of the applicants I talk to knock me off my feet. They have such incredible life experiences and really interesting stories to tell. And then I get to the committee meeting and not all of them can get in. It's unbelievably frustrating."

So bottom line, your interviewer most likely isn't deliberately trying to mislead you at all. They just have a limited amount of control in the process, and even though they may be your biggest fan, they're only one vote of many, just like pianola said.
 
chad5871 said:
Rejected?!?!?! 👎 🙁
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Oh no!!! I didn't even apply to Columbia but I have been checking this thread since Friday to see if you got in. I am sooo sorry! Is there anyway to appeal the decision?

Hopefully you can get just as excited about another one of the schools you were accepted to. We were all rooting for you!
 
when is an appropriate time to start begging dean frantz if you are on wl?
 
shelovespianos said:
You know, I have a bone to pick with Columbia.

I walked away from my interview feeling SO confident that I would get-in. The interviewer went as far to tell me that I was a "strong applicant," that he was "pleased with my answers," and that he would be rooting for my admission.

And then......BAM! Rejected. I honestly didn't see it coming. I don't know why the interviewer made the effort to be so enthusiastic. Did anyone else have this experience?
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i had similar experience in another school, the interviewer went along the lines like "we would be happy to have u" and we had a great conversation. i was so confident that i would get in when i came out of the interview... but i got waitlisted:S


still no mail today ( in Canada), i know it's gonna be rejection or waitlisted the best case scenario, but the waiting is too depressing...
 
onewish said:
i had similar experience in another school, the interviewer went along the lines like "we would be happy to have u" and we had a great conversation. i was so confident that i would get in when i came out of the interview... but i got waitlisted:S


still no mail today ( in Canada), i know it's gonna be rejection or waitlisted the best case scenario, but the waiting is too depressing...
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I dunno, I always take comments like that with a giant grain of salt. I feel like interviewers ALWAYS say "hey, I'll see you here next year!" and "I know you will get in no doubt" just to make you feel good about all the hard work you've gone through. I think they should just cut that B.S. out in the future so as not to get people's hopes up...
 
MILK07 said:
Oh no!!! I didn't even apply to Columbia but I have been checking this thread since Friday to see if you got in. I am sooo sorry! Is there anyway to appeal the decision?

Hopefully you can get just as excited about another one of the schools you were accepted to. We were all rooting for you!
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There should be an SDN petition to Frantz for chad! I was totally rooting for him too.
 
Hey everyone! Thanks for all the support and encouragement. Life goes on, and it's all good. I am a little bitter because I always knew that I wasn't competitive at Columbia, but I wish they hadn't teased me with the interview. :laugh: Whatever - they had their reasons for rejecting me and I'm okay with that. It just wasn't meant to be.

I guess that I could try to contact Dean Frantz to appeal the decision, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to accomplish anything. I might send him a letter just stating how disappointed I am as a way to say goodbye to my dreams but like I said it probably won't accomplish much. I wish there was some way to find out what killed my application, though. That's probably going to bug me for a long time...
 
chad5871 said:
Hey everyone! Thanks for all the support and encouragement. Life goes on, and it's all good. I am a little bitter because I always knew that I wasn't competitive at Columbia, but I wish they hadn't teased me with the interview. :laugh: Whatever - they had their reasons for rejecting me and I'm okay with that. It just wasn't meant to be.

I guess that I could try to contact Dean Frantz to appeal the decision, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to accomplish anything. I might send him a letter just stating how disappointed I am as a way to say goodbye to my dreams but like I said it probably won't accomplish much. I wish there was some way to find out what killed my application, though. That's probably going to bug me for a long time...
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Don't let it get to you. Be proud of getting this far. Only 14 white guys on MDapps with your stats or lower have gotten an interview at Columbia. You had killer ECs, writing skills, and personality. Ultimately, those things will be more valuable in the long run.
 
Just declined 🙁 One of the most difficult decisions I've made in my life, but good luck to all of you! Makes me feel better hoping one of you will get the spot!!!
 
I guess that I could try to contact Dean Frantz to appeal the decision, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to accomplish anything. I might send him a letter just stating how disappointed I am as a way to say goodbye to my dreams
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Both are probably pretty big wastes of your time. Be happy with the amazing acceptances you already have, and move on.
I wish there was some way to find out what killed my application, though. That's probably going to bug me for a long time...
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MCAT score. Any other questions?
 
chad5871 said:
Hey everyone! Thanks for all the support and encouragement. Life goes on, and it's all good. I am a little bitter because I always knew that I wasn't competitive at Columbia, but I wish they hadn't teased me with the interview. :laugh: Whatever - they had their reasons for rejecting me and I'm okay with that. It just wasn't meant to be.

I guess that I could try to contact Dean Frantz to appeal the decision, but I'm pretty sure that's not going to accomplish anything. I might send him a letter just stating how disappointed I am as a way to say goodbye to my dreams but like I said it probably won't accomplish much. I wish there was some way to find out what killed my application, though. That's probably going to bug me for a long time...
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they are losing out, Chad. I know you are going to do amazing things so it truly is their loss. Keep your head up and be proud of how far you have come. I'm still waiting on an interview invite from Columbia! 😱 hehe I know it will come any day now... 😉
 
MilkmanAl said:
MCAT score. Any other questions?
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Ehh, I have a hard time believing that his MCAT score is what "killed" his app post interview; pre or post secondary maybe, but not post interview.

There are simply way more qualified and desirable applicants at the top med schools than there are seats in the incoming class. Not much more to it than that once you get to the interview stage.
 
MilkmanAl said:
Well, yeah. That'd mean those qualified and desirable applicants probably had a higher MCAT score, right? 😉
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Or a higher GPA, huh, Milkman?

WTF are you doing on the Columbia accepted thread anyway - aren't you in med school? Regardless, clearly you have no inside information as to how Columbia are any other schools made post interview decisions...
 
flip26 said:
Or a higher GPA, huh, Milkman?

WTF are you doing on the Columbia accepted thread anyway - aren't you in med school? Regardless, clearly you have no inside information as to how Columbia are any other schools made post interview decisions...
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I think he's just here to be unnecessarily mean.
 
DRLyss said:
they are losing out, Chad. I know you are going to do amazing things so it truly is their loss.
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😀 This is an awesome attitude to have about any rejection. You should definitely follow Lyss' lead here.
 
flip26 said:
Or a higher GPA, huh, Milkman?

WTF are you doing on the Columbia accepted thread anyway - aren't you in med school? Regardless, clearly you have no inside information as to how Columbia are any other schools made post interview decisions...
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I actually think that Milkman would agree that's what held him back...you can't accuse him of being inconsistent 😀

I think it's pretty clear that a lot of people on this thread did not apply to Columbia this cycle :eyebrow: Let's not throw stones in glass houses.

Seriously Chad, you have awesome acceptances, and Columbia really does lose out by not taking you. I know it's hard to hear now, but just completely put it out of your mind.
 
word chad everyone on here was rooting for you. columbia is probably brain damaged for not taking you man. but this process is so ******ed, do not let that get to you.

as everyone says u have some amazing schools and u got into maryland OOS. thats a feat man. Use this as an ignition if anything to kick ass in medical school and beast it. You will be great.
 
stixx said:
Low hanging fruit here obviously, but why exactly are you in this thread?
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Supporting Chad.

And I am a premed, and I am applying this coming cycle, and Columbia is a school that I am interested in.

What's it to you?
 
flip26 said:
Supporting Chad.

And I am a premed, and I am applying this coming cycle, and Columbia is a school that I am interested in.

What's it to you?
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I don't mind. Just thought I'd point out that you don't really have any more reason to be in a 2008-2009 thread than MilkmanAl does. Possibly even less, because he's actually been through the process and can offer some perspective. Criticize the brashness of his comments for sure, but not the issue of posting itself.
 
stixx said:
I don't mind. Just thought I'd point out that you don't really have any more reason to be in a 2008-2009 thread than MilkmanAl does. Possibly even less, because he's actually been through the process and can offer some perspective. Criticize the brashness of his comments for sure, but not the issue of posting itself.
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Since you have such a brilliant idea, why don't you suggest to SDN that they make these threads "subscription only" if you think that only people who actually applied to a school should post in the thread?

And aren't you being a tad hypocritical when you question why I am here while simultaneously chastising me for asking someone else why they are posting unhelpful if not hurtful comments here? As for the presumption he has superior insight into admissions decisions, Milkman Al has zero insights into why anyone who made it to the interview stage at Columbia did not get accepted, or anywhere else for that matter.
 
wow...two rejections in the same week for me...UCSD (preinterview) and then columbia 😡...and no i dont have a positive attitude lol..those m*therf*ckers led me on (and apparently others) like ****....my interviewer basically told me i was in, not in those words, but geez...and then they jus flat out reject me! no WL?????? as weezy said "F*CK EM F*CK EM EVEN IF THEY CELIBATE!!!*

:laugh: felt good, love SDN.
 
flip26 said:
Since you have such a brilliant idea, why don't you suggest to SDN that they make these threads "subscription only" if you think that only people who actually applied to a school should post in the thread?

And aren't you being a tad hypocritical when you question why I am here while simultaneously chastising me for asking someone else why they are posting unhelpful if not hurtful comments here? As for the presumption he has superior insight into admissions decisions, Milkman Al has zero insights into why anyone who made it to the interview stage at Columbia did not get accepted, or anywhere else for that matter.
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Wait, this is being supportive of Chad?

...

Stixx asked a valid question. S/he didn't say "get your tushie out of this thread."
 
I think MilkmanAl actually said the kinder thing. Would you prefer a school to reject you based on personal merit (aka they just don't like you) or based on statistics (aka if you retook you could get in)? Personally, I would prefer statistics, and I think that was likely the case.

Regardless, this thread is getting a little off track. Who else is planning on going to the second look weekend? Hopefully we will get to look around bard hall... I heard that you can request a room assignment, so I definitely want to see where the best/most conveniently located rooms are.
 
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