2009-2010 Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences Application Thread

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We're having a bit of a snow storm out here right now (predicted more than 2 feet by the end of today). We had a early release yesterday so people could get out before it started - that may be why no one answered.
Try again Monday, it'll be over by then.

Wow! you weren't kidding about the snow storm.
 
I am on the waitlist, but have just been medically DQ'd. I am withdrawing my app. and hope one of you guys/gals that are waiting for Navy gets the spot!
 
I am on the waitlist, but have just been medically DQ'd. I am withdrawing my app. and hope one of you guys/gals that are waiting for Navy gets the spot!
Have you tried getting a waiver for the medical portion? If you are dead set on USUHS, the medical portion can always be solved as long as you do the needed leg work. Or have you already tried but had no luck with it?

Either way, best of luck in your decisions for USUHS or other schools!
 
Wow! you weren't kidding about the snow storm.

USUHS is closed today, so if you try calling again, you'll likely not get an answer. It's supposed to snow again tomorrow and Wednesday, so we'll see what happens. The snow storm wasn't that bad, the problem is that Bethesda has no way of dealing with it - the streets haven't all been cleared yet.
 
Just got my interview invite Monday for Feb25.... really excited even though they're telling interviewees that they are up for waitlist spots!

I've heard there's a lot of movement on the waitlist though come April and May...anyone know about that?
 
USUHS is closed today, so if you try calling again, you'll likely not get an answer. It's supposed to snow again tomorrow and Wednesday, so we'll see what happens. The snow storm wasn't that bad, the problem is that Bethesda has no way of dealing with it - the streets haven't all been cleared yet.

Thanks for the update!
 
Isn't snow pretty common there, you'd think they would have figured that out by now.
 
Closed tomorrow as well, FYI. The DC area has no ability to deal with snow.

Wow, The one day I decide to be aggressive and call the school, I have to wait 5 days to do it. 🙄
 
Closed tomorrow as well, FYI. The DC area has no ability to deal with snow.

It probably has something to do with the crazy traffic. It would be a nightmare to be a plow driver on those streets!
 
A couple inches at a time is common. Not close to two feet. It's a whole different beast.


Exactly. There's still a lot of snow on the streets now left over from this past weekend, and they're expecting another foot over this evening. So, we're wondering if we'll have school at all this week! It's fun for a day or two, but I'm a little worried about how they plan on having us make up the classes we missed (plus the test we were supposed to have today).
 
Exactly. There's still a lot of snow on the streets now left over from this past weekend, and they're expecting another foot over this evening. So, we're wondering if we'll have school at all this week! It's fun for a day or two, but I'm a little worried about how they plan on having us make up the classes we missed (plus the test we were supposed to have today).


there's plenty of dean's time built into the schedule......i'm sure they'll push everything back until there's enough dean's time to get up to speed....might make for some long days but we'll be fine
 
so maybe there isn't that much dean's time between now and spring break......i'm betting they take away the full days off the day before exams to study
 
Wow, The one day I decide to be aggressive and call the school, I have to wait 5 days to do it. 🙄

Yeah, this week I was FINALLY actually supposed to hear if my medical waiver got approved... after dealing with the process since September... and winter just HAD to make me wait even longer!!
 
In case anybody else might want to know, I just checked USUHS's website and the school will be closed for Wednesday Feb 10th.
 
In case anybody else might want to know, I just checked USUHS's website and the school will be closed for Wednesday Feb 10th.

thanksss..

also scooter02, my medical waiver just got fully approved a couple weeks ago, mid Jan, after starting in October, so hopefully yours does too, DoDMERB takes forever...
 
I just found out that the school will also be closed Thursday, 02/11/2010. My best guess is that, due to the weather and the upcoming holiday, USUHS will not be open until Tuesday 🙁. As for the current med students having to miss spring break, all I can say is that would suck!!!!
 
Hey, I am new to Student Doctor Network, and I'm happy I came across this thread. I could use some advice if you don't mind!

I've recently been accepted to USUHS for the Army, and I was wondering if anybody knows the Army's stance on ADD medicine. Here's why: as a student, I have always had trouble concentrating on difficult subjects like Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, but I've managed to struggle through it with various coping methods (studying in really quiet places, drinking lots of coffee, moving my study place frequently, etc). Even so, I feel like the only reason I've done so well in school has to do more with me absorbing information really well from lectures than from reading (if I have to be reading more than one textbook in a semester, I'm slammed). I'm worried that with the huge amount of material in medical school, I won't be able to just struggle though it. Recently, my roommate let me try one of her Vynanse pills, and it made all the difference in the world. I was able to just sit down and read/study for hours, paying no attention to the noise and people around me.

My problem is this: I'm sure I could get a doctor to prescribe me Vyvanse easily enough, and I know having the prescription would really help me in school, but I don't want to do anything to jeopardize my soon-to-be military career. Any suggestions? Will this DQ me from attending USUHS?
 
Hey BJHunnicut (I like your alias) based off a quick google search it looks like ADD medication is disqualifying for military service, which means it is a no go for USUHS.

Also, don't take this the wrong way, it sounds like you want to use Vyvanse the same way many non ADD students use Adderol. If I were you, I would avoid the whole medication path.
 
Hey BJHunnicut (I like your alias) based off a quick google search it looks like ADD medication is disqualifying for military service, which means it is a no go for USUHS.

Also, don't take this the wrong way, it sounds like you want to use Vyvanse the same way many non ADD students use Adderol. If I were you, I would avoid the whole medication path.

agree w/ above. As someone who has a very very very hard time concentrating on anything for more than 15 minutes or so I promise you if you've made it this far you'll be fine. You actually take fewer classes at a time than you did in your undergraduate career.

As stated above ADD meds are a no go for being medically qualified to commission. Once you get in you can be prescribed ADD meds. However, having been prescribed ADD meds does and will come up as a flag on your military record and may prevent you from working in some sensitive positions later.....or something like that is how it was explained to me by the brigade surgeon here. The army sort of looks at it like, "hey WTF is this doctor doing taking ADD meds?" So its up to you really....i chose to suck it up and deal with it.....and i'm doing just fine trying to cram like always.
 
Hey, I am new to Student Doctor Network, and I'm happy I came across this thread. I could use some advice if you don't mind!

I've recently been accepted to USUHS for the Army, and I was wondering if anybody knows the Army's stance on ADD medicine. Here's why: as a student, I have always had trouble concentrating on difficult subjects like Chemistry and Organic Chemistry, but I've managed to struggle through it with various coping methods (studying in really quiet places, drinking lots of coffee, moving my study place frequently, etc). Even so, I feel like the only reason I've done so well in school has to do more with me absorbing information really well from lectures than from reading (if I have to be reading more than one textbook in a semester, I'm slammed). I'm worried that with the huge amount of material in medical school, I won't be able to just struggle though it. Recently, my roommate let me try one of her Vynanse pills, and it made all the difference in the world. I was able to just sit down and read/study for hours, paying no attention to the noise and people around me.

My problem is this: I'm sure I could get a doctor to prescribe me Vyvanse easily enough, and I know having the prescription would really help me in school, but I don't want to do anything to jeopardize my soon-to-be military career. Any suggestions? Will this DQ me from attending USUHS?

I am by no means a psychologist or psychiatrist but I find it unlikely that you could perform at a high enough level in undergrad to get into medical school and be suffering from untreated ADD or ADHD. I could be wrong and this could be a common. The only way to truly know is to see a mental health professional and find out. The key here is to be completely forthcoming because knowing the signs and symptoms of ADD you could easily game the system to get the drugs.

As far as the military goes if you are taking ADD drugs when you try to commission you will need a waiver to join. A waiver that is unlikely to be approved given the number of qualified applicants for each seat at USUHS. I have seen the waiver granted for enlisted Marines but at the time recruitment was down and there was a war to fight. Like others have said once you are on active duty you can be diagnosed with ADD and treated but it comes with risks to your career. Let us know what you decide. Good luck.

PS love the screenname. MASH is the best.
 
Yeah, this week I was FINALLY actually supposed to hear if my medical waiver got approved... after dealing with the process since September... and winter just HAD to make me wait even longer!!

Ugh... medical waiver. What a pain in the ass. I am just starting the process, and not super stoked to find that it could take like 6 months... Oh well. Congrats on getting it- that must be a huge weight off your shoulders. I got in to AF a couple months ago, and since then I've been dragging on the waiver process - its just kind of a bummer. I think I will get approved, but I really dont know, so it's a lot of uncertainty... ugh...🙁
 
Sorry for this off topic post but I know there are several runners on here and I have a question I was hoping you could answer.

This past monday I ran an indoor charity event, the longest I have ever run, (part of my marathon training). It was 11 miles and afterwards my ankles are killing me.

I have been icing them for several hours/day and taking Aleve but I was just wondering from those who do distance running, how long does it take to recover from something like this?

Also, is biking ok in the meantime? Or should one completely rest an injury like this with no exercise at all?

Sorry again for taking this off topic and congrats to everyone who's been accepted since I last checked this forum and best of luck to all the remaining hopefuls😀
 
Rebecca just left me a message that my waiver was approved!! So I guess the school is open today...
 
Oh, that reminds me.
I got my unconditional acceptance letter last week, which was about 2 months after my conditional acceptance.
 
0919mmk: The waiver process might take a while, but hang in there!

xmsr3: It really depends on the extent of the injury, but rest of more than a week is not unheard of. And no, cycling sounds like a bad idea. Double check your running stance btw; it's usually the shins and the knees that are the chief complaints.

scooter02: Congrats, hot dog girl! Maybe she called from her home?

BluSkye712: It looks like I am the only one from the 10/15 group who has not yet received the unconditional letter. Grrr... Damn you, ice and snow!
 
Rebecca just left me a message that my waiver was approved!! So I guess the school is open today...


Congrats! That wishful Facebook group joining thing has fully worked out for you. See ya in a few months.
 
Rebecca just left me a message that my waiver was approved!! So I guess the school is open today...


Congrats!! 😀

Yeah, the school was open today. They're working hard trying to figure out how we're going to catch up. They won't mess with federal holidays or spring break (thank god - I've already spent money on spring break), so the next week or so will be interesting. 😳
 
Hey BJHunnicut (I like your alias) based off a quick google search it looks like ADD medication is disqualifying for military service, which means it is a no go for USUHS.

Also, don't take this the wrong way, it sounds like you want to use Vyvanse the same way many non ADD students use Adderol. If I were you, I would avoid the whole medication path.

Thanks for the input. I just think that if the pills are harmless and they help you study, it should be okay to use them...I feel like a lot of psychology/psychiatry is nonsense anyway.

agree w/ above. As someone who has a very very very hard time concentrating on anything for more than 15 minutes or so I promise you if you've made it this far you'll be fine. You actually take fewer classes at a time than you did in your undergraduate career.

As stated above ADD meds are a no go for being medically qualified to commission. Once you get in you can be prescribed ADD meds. However, having been prescribed ADD meds does and will come up as a flag on your military record and may prevent you from working in some sensitive positions later.....or something like that is how it was explained to me by the brigade surgeon here. The army sort of looks at it like, "hey WTF is this doctor doing taking ADD meds?" So its up to you really....i chose to suck it up and deal with it.....and i'm doing just fine trying to cram like always.

Thanks for the input, I guess it will all be okay afterall. I just wish it wasn't so hard to study!

I am by no means a psychologist or psychiatrist but I find it unlikely that you could perform at a high enough level in undergrad to get into medical school and be suffering from untreated ADD or ADHD. I could be wrong and this could be a common. The only way to truly know is to see a mental health professional and find out. The key here is to be completely forthcoming because knowing the signs and symptoms of ADD you could easily game the system to get the drugs.

As far as the military goes if you are taking ADD drugs when you try to commission you will need a waiver to join. A waiver that is unlikely to be approved given the number of qualified applicants for each seat at USUHS. I have seen the waiver granted for enlisted Marines but at the time recruitment was down and there was a war to fight. Like others have said once you are on active duty you can be diagnosed with ADD and treated but it comes with risks to your career. Let us know what you decide. Good luck.

PS love the screenname. MASH is the best.

Thanks, MASH IS the best!

I guess I will just avoid the issue altogether then. I also have an acceptance to a non-military medical school, but there's nothing I want more than to be in the military...why risk it.
 
Anyone know/think that they'll make any phone calls anytime soon (now that the Northeast is is slowly getting up and running again)? Like maybe the 15th?:xf:
 
Anyone know/think that they'll make any phone calls anytime soon (now that the Northeast is is slowly getting up and running again)? Like maybe the 15th?:xf:

I would assume that they are finished calling applicants with acceptances based on all of the waitlist letters that are going out.
 
Recieved a letter in the mail today. Rejection. For any who would like to know, the letter was dated February 5th.

For everyone who is still waiting: Good luck.

For those who have been accepted/waitlisted: Congratulations and thank you for serving!!!!
 
Recieved a letter in the mail today. Rejection. For any who would like to know, the letter was dated February 5th.

For everyone who is still waiting: Good luck.

For those who have been accepted/waitlisted: Congratulations and thank you for serving!!!!

I'm sorry to hear that. It was good talking to you here, and I wish you luck with your other applications!
 
Recieved a letter in the mail today. Rejection. For any who would like to know, the letter was dated February 5th.

For everyone who is still waiting: Good luck.

For those who have been accepted/waitlisted: Congratulations and thank you for serving!!!!

Sorry to hear about the rejection, best of luck with other schools though! There's still a few more months in the app. cycle.
 
Got the unconditional acceptance yesterday, just had a few questions if somebody would be kind of enough to answer:

1. Besides sending the transcripts is there anything else I need to do in terms of paperwork etc?

2. I am waitlisted @ a couple of schools, how does USUHS work in terms of accepting those schools after I sign onto USUHS?

3. What is OBC's like? Are there any timed/physical requirements that I should prepare for?

4. Anybody know the exact pay in terms of first year as an O-1 with no dependents?

Thanks again to whoever responds!
 
To your questions...

1 and 2 I do not know the answers but I think USUHS can provide you what the direction you need or at least they should.

3. Depending on what you branch (Navy/Air Force/Army), each has a different physical fitness test. For instance the Army has 2 minutes of push-ups, 2 minutes of sit-ups and a 2 mile run. The minimum requirements for this test based on your age group and sex and can easily be found online through a google search.

4. This is also easy to research. Just google "Military Pay Scale", it is the same for all branches and is based on years in service. Your base pay is scaled based on only this and your status with dependents, rank and location are considered for Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH). Keep in mind that BAH is non-taxable income so your actual net income is higher than it seems because of this. There are charts on the internet with this information, just google "Military Pay Scale" and then separately google "BAH Calculator", which you would then enter in the zip for Bethesda to calculate your BAH and the sum is your net income.
 
Also as to your question about OBC, I believe for physicians it is more of a summarized course on introduction to the military (customs and courtesies, administration procedures, UCMJ, etc.). There will probably be a physical training program consisting of daily aerobic and anerobic exercises. Each OBC is different so I cannot speak to the medical services OBC.
 
Got the unconditional acceptance yesterday, just had a few questions if somebody would be kind of enough to answer:

1. Besides sending the transcripts is there anything else I need to do in terms of paperwork etc?

2. I am waitlisted @ a couple of schools, how does USUHS work in terms of accepting those schools after I sign onto USUHS?

3. What is OBC's like? Are there any timed/physical requirements that I should prepare for?

4. Anybody know the exact pay in terms of first year as an O-1 with no dependents?

Thanks again to whoever responds!

Were you accepted off of the waitlist?
 
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Thank you all for responses, they were very helpful.

And no I was not accepted off the waitlist. I was accepted(conditional) in Nov and had to deal with medical waivers and what not and finally got the unconditional acceptance in early Feb
 
Recieved a letter in the mail today. Rejection. For any who would like to know, the letter was dated February 5th.

For everyone who is still waiting: Good luck.

For those who have been accepted/waitlisted: Congratulations and thank you for serving!!!!

Sorry to hear about the rejection. I know admissions is so subjective, but do you have any idea why? Were your stats in line with the school average? Did you feel that your interview went well? Not a good fit for the school? Just curious.
 
Alright, waitlisted army (dec 3 interview). Any of you accepted army folks who are going to choose a civilian school instead please withdrawal. Oh and if you happen to be waitlisted at any school in ga ill trade admission for admission
 
Alright, waitlisted army (dec 3 interview). Any of you accepted army folks who are going to choose a civilian school instead please withdrawal. Oh and if you happen to be waitlisted at any school in ga ill trade admission for admission

Congrats! How were you notified of the decision? I interviewed on 12/10, and am anxiously waiting to hear back.:xf:
 
Congrats! How were you notified of the decision? I interviewed on 12/10, and am anxiously waiting to hear back.:xf:

I bugged the admissions office about it till they told me I was selected for the waitlist and the letter would be dated today, so maybe you'll be getting one in a couple days as well.
 
Also as to your question about OBC, I believe for physicians it is more of a summarized course on introduction to the military (customs and courtesies, administration procedures, UCMJ, etc.). There will probably be a physical training program consisting of daily aerobic and anerobic exercises. Each OBC is different so I cannot speak to the medical services OBC.

lol (not at you, but at the PT at OBC). You'll do PT once or twice the first week you're there then have your PT Test (I think last year ours was on a weekend oddly enough). If you pass that PT test you might PT two more times for the entire course. If you fail PT you'll have to do remedial every morning when you're doing the field training exercises instead of doing combatives.
 
Sorry to hear about the rejection. I know admissions is so subjective, but do you have any idea why? Were your stats in line with the school average? Did you feel that your interview went well? Not a good fit for the school? Just curious.

Thanks for all the support. I still have a few schools where I have interviewed and am still waiting for responses.

As for why I didnt get in, I don't have a definitive answer nor do I think they would give me one if I asked. My scores are right on par with the averages posted by USUHS and I know for a fact that it wasn't my extracurricular activities.

If I had to pick a particular aspect it would probably have to be my first interview. It was very formal and quite nerve racking. I am non-prior with my military experience steming from my father who was a chief petty officer in the navy and he retired before I was even born. The interviewer proposed a few theoretical situations that pertain specifically to military medicine (Geneva Code of ethics for prisoners of war and theoretical who-to-treat war specific medical scenarios).

Applying to a military medical school I probably should have been more prepared to answer these types of questions, but to be honest, I had never thought of those kinds of situations before. After the first question he openly told me that I had chosen the wrong pt to treat and so for the following scenarios I never gave a definitive answer and just discussed the pros/cons of either situation. Needless to say it was not my best interview. The second interview however was fantastic and I left feeling really good about my chances (go figure :laugh:).

I was probably just an average canidate with little military experience and didn't stand out of the crowd enough. But thats just my own opinion. Who really knows. I'm just looking at it like this: It took USU 12 weeks to reject me. Either someone wasn't on the ball or it was a hard decision. I believe the latter 😀.
 
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