2009-2010 Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences Application Thread

[Soba]

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Congrats to those who got the acceptance call!

To scooter02: As others stated, don't be discouraged, and keep yourself busy. Perhaps by carving massive number of pumpkins?

I came back from the interview yesterday. As anticipated, the interviewers were relaxed, and the atmosphere was upbeat. And yeah, DC beltway traffic sucks, indeed.

 

[xmsr3]

Grotto, NavyCy, and Dru, thanks for your votes of confidence.

I know it's not over until an actual rejection letter arrives, and it's nice to hear that several people in the same situation ended up accepted last year. I still feel sick though!! It's always the anticipation/not knowing that's the worst for me.

Tell you what, even though it goes against my normal way of thinking/doing things, I'll try to borrow some optimism and positivity from xmsr... if it's OK with all of you who are REALLY accepted, I'll join the facebook group on the assumption that good news is on its way in the future. I promise if I get rejected I'll leave!! 😉

Welcome aboard sister!😀 I'm sure your app got shuffled into the second group pile, an administrative error. These are known to happen in the military😀 When you don't get a rejection letter on monday or tuesday you'll know I'm right. Though it sucks that you will have to wait for two more weeks to get the call, USUHS is worth the wait.

Though I know it will be difficult try to enjoy your weekend and to paraphrase John Stewart, "Keep Carving those pumpkins".😀

 

[Tenbusu]

Official "complete" email on Oct. 2nd, interview invite on Oct. 13th.

Thank you all for the feedback on my schedule conflict question; I'll be interviewing Nov. 5th! I'm Air National Guard and will not be on orders or active status: Should I wear my service dress blues? I'm thinking yes... -_^

Congrats to all you 's getting acceptance letters already! That's awesome, and really makes me feel like I'm running to catch a moving train!

BTW, is anyone else considering/applying to the MD/PhD program at USUHS?

It sounded like something I would be very interested in, but I couldn't find the amount of the stipend. You don't stay active duty while in the PhD portion, right? That could be a rough 3 years.

And I'm with you Coil. Happy for all those who made it, but submitted about a month late. Our time will come!

 

[xmsr3]

Tenbusu, just a guess on my part but I would think the stipend might be the same as HPSP, which is $1600/month after taxes. If so then you're right, living on that would be very tough in a place as expensive as DC, considering that the BAH we make as O-1s is $1600.

If you are passionate about research however, I would call USUHS and ask before I ruled it out completely. Perhaps you would be pleasantly surprised.

But it sounds like you already applied for the MD program. If so then best of luck to you and here's hoping that a month from now you are as ecstatic as Dru, grotto and myself are today.😀

 

[mcclesm]

Does anybody know if I am limited to Air Force only? I am a prior-service (separated a year ago) Air Force captain, no longer active duty. The preference statement says:

"Applicants on active duty will be tendered a position in the branch in which they are currently serving unless they have requested a branch transfer."​

But I'm not on active duty, so.....???

Thanks!

 

[grotto]

xmsr what service did you end up selecting? Army, right?

 

[Brocimus]

Congrats to those with calls! Looks like another couple weeks for the rest of us. Good luck!

 

[scooter02]

Welcome aboard sister!😀 I'm sure your app got shuffled into the second group pile, an administrative error. These are known to happen in the military😀 When you don't get a rejection letter on monday or tuesday you'll know I'm right. Though it sucks that you will have to wait for two more weeks to get the call, USUHS is worth the wait.

Though I know it will be difficult try to enjoy your weekend and to paraphrase John Stewart, "Keep Carving those pumpkins".😀

Turns out that pumpkin ale is even better than carving a pumpkin!! You all have made me feel a lot better also! It's not over till a letter arrives.

 

[xmsr3]

Grotto, yes I am in the army program.

Scooter2, thats the spirit!😀 Go out there and enjoy the wonderful, warm Alaska weather!😀

 

[Soba]

Does anybody know if I am limited to Air Force only? I am a prior-service (separated a year ago) Air Force captain, no longer active duty. The preference statement says:

"Applicants on active duty will be tendered a position in the branch in which they are currently serving unless they have requested a branch transfer."​

But I'm not on active duty, so.....???

Thanks!

So, no. It is stated as plain as it gets, and I don't think even Uncle Sam can find a loophole in that. But if it would make you feel better, contact USUHS through e-mail/phone.

 

[NavyCy]

Mcclesm, do you have any IRR obligation remaining? Let me know if you get a solid answer. I have a friend who might be interested in the answer.

 

[kcmedic]

Wow, haven't checked SDN in awhile and a lot has happened in this thread! Congrats to those of you accepted. My interview is coming up Thursday and I am soooo excited@! 😀😀😀

One question, I haven't been contacted by USUHS Security yet.... Whats going on? I will give them a call tomorrow. Is it a long process?

 

[NavyCy]

Send me a private message with your email and I'll forward you the security information. The SF-86 form can take a fair amount of time if you have moved around a lot or held many different jobs. It is extremely detailed so you may have to do some research in order to find all the information required.

 

[silverhorse84]

Does anybody know if I am limited to Air Force only? I am a prior-service (separated a year ago) Air Force captain, no longer active duty. The preference statement says:

"Applicants on active duty will be tendered a position in the branch in which they are currently serving unless they have requested a branch transfer."​

But I'm not on active duty, so.....???

Thanks!

We have a few people in our class who were prior-service in one branch and ended up in another here at school (either because theirs was full or because they just chose to go into a different branch).

 

[mslall]

Does anybody know if I am limited to Air Force only? I am a prior-service (separated a year ago) Air Force captain, no longer active duty. The preference statement says:

"Applicants on active duty will be tendered a position in the branch in which they are currently serving unless they have requested a branch transfer."​

But I'm not on active duty, so.....???

Thanks!

we have a prior-service air force captain in our class who is in the army.

 

[RLTW]

Now I know what they mean about "the watched pot..." I skip a day and everything happens at once.
Well, congratulations to those who got accepted!

X, I know you are ignoring certain individuals but if you could take a break from your embargo for a moment and tell me what specialty you are leaning towards.

Some had mentioned Jiu Jitsu in a prior post, does anybody know if USUHS has a BJJ or combatives program?

 

[RLTW]

For mslall and silverhorse, approximately how many prior service Army pax have you notice in the class? I am beginning to notice that Army is being noted as a place of common assignment not a place of common origin.

 

[xmsr3]

Now I know what they mean about "the watched pot..." I skip a day and everything happens at once.
Well, congratulations to those who got accepted!

X, I know you are ignoring certain individuals but if you could take a break from your embargo for a moment and tell me what specialty you are leaning towards.

Some had mentioned Jiu Jitsu in a prior post, does anybody know if USUHS has a BJJ or combatives program?

I apologize if it seems that I have been ignoring certain people, it was never my intention. I know that a few months ago, when I was a neurotic mess I made a lot of enemies because I was acting like a total a-hole. I have mellowed a lot since then and have made it my mission on these boards to support my fellow applicants and become a source of uplifting bemusement. Sorry if you thought I was ignoring you.

As to your question, right now I am leaning towards preventative medicine, with an emphasis on epidemiology. I am going into mil med because I want to serve my country but I also want to make as big a difference in the world as possible.

Being able to plan and coordinate preperation and response to bio/chem warfare and or terrorism and or epidemics as well as dealing with improving community health around the world seems very appealing to me. I am also intrigued by the medical toxicology fellowship you can do at GWU after your residency is complete but that is so far down the road its not really worth thinking about.

Of course I will probably change my mind as most med students do and may go with one of my other top choices, radiology, pathology, neurology or psychiatry or some other specialty I have not even considered.

Its funny where life takes you sometimes. I always thought I would end up in the navy but fell in love with the army instead. I am learning that, though planning is important, sometimes you just have to relax and enjoy the ride😀

 

[Soba]

As to your question, right now I am leaning towards preventative medicine

I saw your post about PM in the milmed thread, so I feel compelled to correct this, especially since you are interested in the field.

The correct term is preventive medicine, at least in the Army. NEVER say "preventative." Most Army PM personnel cringe when they hear that blasphemous word, and they really don't need to hear it from a future physician. 😛

 

[NavyCy]

RLTW, I was the one talking about BJJ. I don't know if USUHS has any sort of a club for this type of thing, but the level of instruction available in the area is pretty high. Pedro Sauer teaches in Rockville and the Yamasaki Academy is in the same general area. Both have good reputations within the BJJ community and there are other good schools in DC especially south DC toward VA. I'm hoping to continue training at least a couple of times a week because I enjoy the workout and its a good stress relief for me, but we'll see what happens. Right now I just want to get an acceptance letter. 🙂

 

[scooter02]

RLTW, I was the one talking about BJJ. I don't know if USUHS has any sort of a club for this type of thing, but the level of instruction available in the area is pretty high. Pedro Sauer teaches in Rockville and the Yamasaki Academy is in the same general area. Both have good reputations within the BJJ community and there are other good schools in DC especially south DC toward VA. I'm hoping to continue training at least a couple of times a week because I enjoy the workout and its a good stress relief for me, but we'll see what happens. Right now I just want to get an acceptance letter. 🙂

Dr. 90210 does the jujitsu too, right? He does pushups and air punches before he goes in to surgery.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend! Except for the part where I'll feel sick getting the mail all next week, I'm keeping my hopes up for now.

 

[NavyCy]

Dr. 90210 does the jujitsu too, right? He does pushups and air punches before he goes in to surgery.

I may be revealing my cultural ignorance, but I have no idea who Dr 90210 is. However, if he's punching then he's not as you say "doing the jiu jitsu." No punching allowed.

 

[mslall]

For mslall and silverhorse, approximately how many prior service Army pax have you notice in the class? I am beginning to notice that Army is being noted as a place of common assignment not a place of common origin.

there are 2 prior marines (1 officer 1 enlisted) and 1 prior air force officer that branched army.

Is that what you were asking?

off the top of my head there are 7 prior army officers and 4 prior army enlisted......there might be a couple more but thats all i can think of right now.

 

[scooter02]

I may be revealing my cultural ignorance, but I have no idea who Dr 90210 is. However, if he's punching then he's not as you say "doing the jiu jitsu." No punching allowed.

he is this flashy plastic surgeon guy that used to have a TV show, he's from Brazil and wears shiny shirts and tight scrub tops and stuff... you weren't missing much!!

So you can't punch, but you can choke people?? My mom made me take karate when I was little but I never got past yellow belt, so I'm certainly no martial arts expert 🙂

 

[RLTW]

MsLall, that is what I was looking for. Provided I am accepted, I will be very curious to see what the make up is of the prior service students. Does the school populace tend to congregate along branch lines or does everyone get out there and mingle?

NavyCy, I am hoping that there is a BJJ or MMA club on campus since the schedules are going to be so tight. I teach my guys combatives twice a week and I think I would have a hard time not rolling every so often.

 

[xmsr3]

So the last week of my training I injured my knee while weight training. I immediately stopped weight training and running and resorted to swimming and using an elliptical to get to the point where I knew I could get to 212 using diet alone, at which point I stopped working out completely to let my knee heal. Now that I am within army standards I can take my time and lose the last 35 lbs over a course of several months, but I have a problem.

My knee is still bothering me, nothing that prohibits me from walking, but it does feel sore when I bend it all the way, say as in squatting down.

I have been icing it, elevating it and taking Ibuprofen, but it seems about the same as it was 5 days ago when I stopped working out entirely to give it time to heal.

I want to see an orthopedist and have him X ray my knee to let me know what I am dealing with(patellofemoral chondromalacia? ACL damage? Ligament damage? stress fracture?)and how to fix it (heal on its own or needs surgery?)and what kind of training I can still do, (is it safe to swim? elliptical?)

My only concern is with USUHS finding out and withdrawing my acceptance. So now I need some advice from you guys, hopefully someone knows some specifics about unconditional acceptances.

If I were to see an orthopedist next week would USUHS find out about it? Or does the unconditional acceptance depend only on my passing the DODMERB physical and the DOD processing the paperwork? Does USUHS look into your medical history or is the DODMERB physical forms all they consider?

Should I wait to see an orthopedist until after I get my unconditional acceptance? And should the worst case scenario be true, that my knee requires surgery,(unlikely since that kind of damage would probably be much much more painful and I probably wouldn't be able to walk) do I have to notify USUHS or can I keep it to myself as long as I am fully healed in time for OBC and my PFT?

I will call an orthopedist on monday but whether or not I can schedule an appointment now or in a couple of weeks depends on whether or not USUHS will be digging into my medical history.

Maybe I am worrying too much over nothing, but the thought that I could have spent 4 years studying premed and 1 year losing 160 lbs and get into my dream school only to lose it all is haunting my dreams.

Anyone know any info that can help me?

P.S

Doing online research yields that the likeliest diagnosis is chondromalacia resulting from overtraining I was doing the last month. Of course I will consult an orthopedist to make sure but the good news is that the prognosis for chondromalacia is very good, no surgery just rest, elevate, ice, NSAIDs and swimming, basically what I have been doing.

 

[silverhorse84]

So you can't punch, but you can choke people?? My mom made me take karate when I was little but I never got past yellow belt, so I'm certainly no martial arts expert 🙂

My mom made me take karate when I was little too 🙂 I don't remember that much though, haha

RLTW, we've been told that eventually people really mingle, but at this point us MS1s are still a little service specific. There are exceptions to that (the social kids tend to be social with everyone), but if you go out with a group there tends to be a major service and then maybe one or two from the other services.

I think the 2nd years are more mixed. My guess is it happens after going out into the field together because we're not service specific in our Mil Studies platoons.

Coming into school we all only know those from our own service's summer school (ODS, OBLC, COT) and then the priors tend to stick together. Eventually we'll get to know everyone and it won't be so segregated.

 

[teacherman84]

So the last week of my training I injured my knee while weight training. I immediately stopped weight training and running and resorted to swimming and using an elliptical to get to the point where I knew I could get to 212 using diet alone, at which point I stopped working out completely to let my knee heal. Now that I am within army standards I can take my time and lose the last 35 lbs over a course of several months, but I have a problem.

My knee is still bothering me, nothing that prohibits me from walking, but it does feel sore when I bend it all the way, say as in squatting down.

I have been icing it, elevating it and taking Ibuprofen, but it seems about the same as it was 5 days ago when I stopped working out entirely to give it time to heal.

I want to see an orthopedist and have him X ray my knee to let me know what I am dealing with(patellofemoral chondromalacia? ACL damage? Ligament damage? stress fracture?)and how to fix it (heal on its own or needs surgery?)and what kind of training I can still do, (is it safe to swim? elliptical?)

My only concern is with USUHS finding out and withdrawing my acceptance. So now I need some advice from you guys, hopefully someone knows some specifics about unconditional acceptances.

If I were to see an orthopedist next week would USUHS find out about it? Or does the unconditional acceptance depend only on my passing the DODMERB physical and the DOD processing the paperwork? Does USUHS look into your medical history or is the DODMERB physical forms all they consider?

Should I wait to see an orthopedist until after I get my unconditional acceptance? And should the worst case scenario be true, that my knee requires surgery,(unlikely since that kind of damage would probably be much much more painful and I probably wouldn't be able to walk) do I have to notify USUHS or can I keep it to myself as long as I am fully healed in time for OBC and my PFT?

I will call an orthopedist on monday but whether or not I can schedule an appointment now or in a couple of weeks depends on whether or not USUHS will be digging into my medical history.

Maybe I am worrying too much over nothing, but the thought that I could have spent 4 years studying premed and 1 year losing 160 lbs and get into my dream school only to lose it all is haunting my dreams.

Anyone know any info that can help me?

P.S

Doing online research yields that the likeliest diagnosis is chondromalacia resulting from overtraining I was doing the last month. Of course I will consult an orthopedist to make sure but the good news is that the prognosis for chondromalacia is very good, no surgery just rest, elevate, ice, NSAIDs and swimming, basically what I have been doing.

have you never been injured playing a sport before?

just see the doctor...chill out

 

[Soba]

Coming into school we all only know those from our own service's summer school (ODS, OBLC, COT) and then the priors tend to stick together. Eventually we'll get to know everyone and it won't be so segregated.

Haha, those of you going to OBLC will have so much fun. For prior service it will be like a country club when compared to BCT/OCS, mixed with mind numbing boredom induced by endless powerpoint slides. All things considered, you will have fun. However, it's too bad you have to do the whole APFT and MOPP stuff during the ridiculously humid season...

 

[scooter02]

So throughout the process, Rebecca (the commissioning coordinator) contacts everyone whether they are accepted or not right?

Here's the deal: I did my physical before my interview on 9/17. Then on Wednesday (10/14) Rebecca emailed me to let me know I need to send some records in for a remedial. I emailed her back to ask if it was something I would likely need a waiver for or not, and ended my email with a friendly "first I'll worry about an acceptance" type of thing. She wrote back on 10/15 and just re-emphasized to send everything in ASAP.

I was all excited that this was a good sign then I didn't get a call the next day. My question is, would they have her working on my remedials/waivers etc if I was being sent a rejection the next day?

Meh, sorry I'm stressing out, I was just really sold on USUHS after my interview. I interviewed at another school the next day and didn't like it nearly as much. Of course I'll go anywhere I got accepted, I was just really excited about USUHS...

 

[xmsr3]

have you never been injured playing a sport before?

just see the doctor...chill out

Yes, I have been injured before and I went to the doctor for treatment, but those times I didn't have a conditional acceptance to the med school of my dreams to worry about.

My concern is that, even though it is most likely not a severe injury, I might be denied unconditional acceptance because USUHS finds out I went to an orthopedist to have my knee looked at.

It all comes down to whether or not they do some kind of background check into your medical history, if they do then I should wait, if they don't then I should get my knee looked at as soon as possible.

Any thoughts?

 

[grotto]

I'm 99% sure you are not "rejected." This is a long post but I think that I know exactly what is going on with your situation...

I did my physical early in september(basically the same week as I got my letter from concorde) and they had my dodmerb results back about a week after the interview. I was medically qualified, but I had to get some stuff done that if not remedied would have precluded me getting an acceptance on the first day - i.e. I had to get taped (sort of embarrassed to admit it but whatever). I have been taped every single cycle for the last 10 years that I have been in the military and I will always be taped, because I am just a giant individual who has played football and Division I basketball and there is nothing I can really do about. I worked with Rebecca and got this stuff done by the first week of October and I am obviously well within standards as I have always gotten excellent scores on the PRT.

More pertinent to you: is that in talking with CDR Calloway and Joan during my interview day, if you and USUHS got a response back from DoDMerb that was "disqualified" for any reason BEFORE acceptances go out, then you are not going to get any type of acceptance (conditional or unconditional). The reason they give conditional acceptances on the first day is because DoDMerb usually doesn't get a response back in time for the first round. It just so happened that you and I were on top of dodmerb and got it done early - if you would have procrastinated on it then you would probably have gotten a phone call and then had to deal with things afterwards. People here who have gotten conditional acceptances have either not gotten their dodmerb results yet or are fully qualified (like me, I am qualified both medically and through security and was told that my snail mail letter will probably be unconditional).

People will probably argue with me on this point, but since I knew that I would have problems with height-weight I talked with CDR Calloway for about 20 minutes during the interview day to make sure I was clear on the process - so what I said is directly from the proverbial horses mouth. I remember being pissed at myself for being in such a rush to get my physical done, but it worked out in the end as I was able to work with Rebecca and get her everything she needed before the 16th.

I have a further ancedote - a friend of mine was held up until JUNE without any word for a PHS spot because of a childhood asthma remedial from dodmerb. USUHS admissions didn't give her any word, but as soon as that remedial was resolved, she got an offer.

Just make sure that you get those remedials done ASAP, they do not wait for people who they like but are not physically qualified. I know it seems unfair to punish people who are ahead of the game on their physicals, but that is just the way it works.

 

[dwb8p]

Yes, I have been injured before and I went to the doctor for treatment, but those times I didn't have a conditional acceptance to the med school of my dreams to worry about.

My concern is that, even though it is most likely not a severe injury, I might be denied unconditional acceptance because USUHS finds out I went to an orthopedist to have my knee looked at.

It all comes down to whether or not they do some kind of background check into your medical history, if they do then I should wait, if they don't then I should get my knee looked at as soon as possible.

Any thoughts?

Go see a doctor and stop worrying. They will not find out through a background check. They take your DODMERB at face value.

Also, what is this about you losing 160lbs in one year? For you to have lost that much weight you'd have had to lose ~.4 lbs ever single day for an entire year. That's a daily 1400 calorie deficit.

 

[grotto]

Yes, I have been injured before and I went to the doctor for treatment, but those times I didn't have a conditional acceptance to the med school of my dreams to worry about.

My concern is that, even though it is most likely not a severe injury, I might be denied unconditional acceptance because USUHS finds out I went to an orthopedist to have my knee looked at.

It all comes down to whether or not they do some kind of background check into your medical history, if they do then I should wait, if they don't then I should get my knee looked at as soon as possible.

Any thoughts?

xmsr, this is not going to happen. You are really giving the military too much credit. There is no possible way that dodmerb or usuhs will know about your knee injury and if they did, they probably don't care. You already did your physical right?

Dodmerb, like most military endeavours, is a paperwork drill. They only know what you give them. If you don't give them the info, they don't know. They do not want your medical records, and if you have already done your physical then you are done. Period. Get your treatment, and move on. After you complete your physical and are qualified you are under zero obligation to report any further updates to your medical status until you are an active duty member of the armed forces.

 

[Soba]

I just want to thank the above 2 posters for preventing xmsr3's premed neurosis from going into full gear.

 

[NavyCy]

XM, I'm not a doctor, but are my thoughts.

-First, I've hurt my knees more times than I can remember. Tendons, ligaments, a fracture, I've pretty much done it all. Every time I hurt myself I was told to rest or swim. If you want to keep working out you can swim or if that hurts your knee use a pull buoy to take your legs completely out of the equation. Alternatively many pools have flotation devices that go around your waist and allow you to go through the motion of running in the deep end of the pool. Boring, but can be an effective workout.

- Second, 5 days really isn't very long especially if you have a tendon overuse injury. I'd give yourself at least a couple more weeks before you hit the panic button.

I really wouldn't worry about DODMERB too much. Go see your doctor if it will make you feel better. If your still concerned about DODMERB take a couple of weeks off, relax and see how your knee reacts. Either way, I'd be willing to bet that you'll still get to go to USUHS.

 

[xmsr3]

Go see a doctor and stop worrying. They will not find out through a background check. They take your DODMERB at face value.

Also, what is this about you losing 160lbs in one year? For you to have lost that much weight you'd have had to lose ~.4 lbs ever single day for an entire year. That's a daily 1400 calorie deficit.

Actually it was about 10 months and yes its very possible.

16 lbs/month
4 lbs/week
1 lb of fat=3500 cal so I needed to have a net calorie deficit of 14,000/week or 2000/day.

I was eating 1600 calories/day of lean protein and carbs, working out 1 hour/day, averaging 700 calories, (400 calories on weight training days, 1000 calories on cardio days)

So as long as my Basal Metabolic Rate was 2900, I would hit the daily deficit I needed. I just calculated my BMR and its 2800 today, so it must have been a lot higher back then when I was much heavier.



And thanks Grotto and NavyCY for alleviating my fears and verifying what I was hoping for. Lucky for me I have a great Orthopedic Clinic .5 miles from my house and its part of my insurance network. Better yet, all 7 of the Orthos there specialize in sports medicine and they have a digital x-ray machine on site. I will be calling first thing monday morning and scheduling the earliest possible appointment.




And Scooter2, I told you that the reason you didn't get the call was administrative and not because they rejected you!😀 Would Rebecca be calling you telling you to take care of remedials if they weren't going to accept you? Hopefully this will help you sleep easier and enjoy the rest of your weekend and that legendary Alaska weather.😀

 

[ruiner]

Rebecca's job is to get people qualified medically. I think you guys are reading too much into this.

 

[NavyCy]

I am hoping that there is a BJJ or MMA club on campus since the schedules are going to be so tight. I teach my guys combatives twice a week and I think I would have a hard time not rolling every so often.

I'd be interested also if a club exists. Either way, if there is a mat available, I'm always up to roll. I could use the extra work.

Scooter, to answer your question striking in all its forms (fists, elbows, knees, shins) is not allowed. Chokes are legal as are joint locks on the wrist, elbow, shoulder, knee, ankle etc. The only exceptions are that cervical locks and small joint locks (fingers and toes) are almost always illegal for obvious reasons. I'm by no means an expert, but I enjoy the workout.

 

[RLTW]

X, I am not going to stop doing the physically risky things that I do just because I have an acceptance to a med school. I do not think that USUHS expects you to put on a bubble-wrap jumpsuit and helmet until class starts; I would be disappointed with the school if that were the case. Grotto makes a good point, as much as I hate to admit it, the military isn't always that clever. So...have fun at your Ortho appointment, enjoy your inevitable RICE, and try and stay out of your head. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.

 

[mslall]

Actually it was about 10 months and yes its very possible.


I was eating 1600 calories/day of lean protein and carbs, working out 1 hour/day, averaging 700 calories, (400 calories on weight training days, 1000 calories on cardio days)

there is no way you were burning 1000 calories in one hour doing cardio. The intensity level with which you would have to work to burn that much in an hour is somewhere near the realm of high-speed college/professional athletes. I would burn about 1200 in a 2hr swim practice in college. You are exaggerating.

That being said, you need to rest. You've injured your knee from over-training. You're not ready to embark on intense exercise.......i've seen you. That being said, it won't really matter if you can't make height/weight. There are several that don't already.

 

[mslall]

I'd be interested also if a club exists. Either way, if there is a mat available, I'm always up to roll. I could use the extra work.

Scooter, to answer your question striking in all its forms (fists, elbows, knees, shins) is not allowed. Chokes are legal as are joint locks on the wrist, elbow, shoulder, knee, ankle etc. The only exceptions are that cervical locks and small joint locks (fingers and toes) are almost always illegal for obvious reasons. I'm by no means an expert, but I enjoy the workout.

there isn't a club or a combatives program on campus.

 

[theheat]

i just got the acceptance phone call, very thoughtful of them to do it on a Sunday. Also I'm DODMERB qualified so I am ready to rock.

Best of luck to everyone!

 

[mslall]

silverhorse's description of how the class divides itself is pretty much right on. There's a Navy side of the classroom, an army side, and the air force is sort all over the place (mostly in the first 4-5 rows).

The only thing I would say is, at least in the army, i don't find that the prior service guys cluster together. The prior enlisted guys went to OBC with the rest of us so they integrated there. The prior officers are all over the place too (at least in the army). I have friends that are navy and air force, but i definitely don't know the majority of the class in the other services.

 

[NavyCy]

XMSR, how you got to your current weight really isn't important and whether anyone believes you is irrelevant. You accomplished one major goal (congratulations) and now you have another goal in mind. From what I've learned about your personality I would guess you tend to push yourself harder than you should at times. That's fine, I do the same thing. Have you considered working with a physical trainer? I've always found it very helpful to have an outside observer help me set long term goals and then stick to the plan.

A trainer might also be able to sanity check your goals. I think you've said you want to get down to 180 lbs by the start of school right? I don't know you very well so I won't say you can't do it, but 180 lbs sounds very aggressive to me. I would say you and I had similar physical builds, but you are at least two inches taller than I am. As a point of comparison, I have to cut 5-10 lbs every time I need to make weight at 180 lbs. To be comfortable at 180 lbs, you would likely have to sacrifice a large amount of muscle mass, which really isn't necessary or desired if you aren't doing a specialized sport like cycling or long distance running.

Good luck to you.

 

[dru2002]

xmsr, how you got to your current weight really isn't important and whether anyone believes you is irrelevant. You accomplished one major goal (congratulations) and now you have another goal in mind.

+1

 

[dru2002]

i just got the acceptance phone call, very thoughtful of them to do it on a Sunday. Also I'm DODMERB qualified so I am ready to rock.

Best of luck to everyone!

Congrats dude or dudette! When did you interview?

 

[dru2002]

there is no way you were burning 1000 calories in one hour doing cardio. The intensity level with which you would have to work to burn that much in an hour is somewhere near the realm of high-speed college/professional athletes. I would burn about 1200 in a 2hr swim practice in college. You are exaggerating.

That being said, you need to rest. You've injured your knee from over-training. You're not ready to embark on intense exercise.......i've seen you. That being said, it won't really matter if you can't make height/weight. There are several that don't already.

I just used three different online calorie calcululators and running at 6mph for 60 mins for my weight of 215 pounds were all over 1000 calories. And 10 minute miles is hardly breakneck pace. So I feel it is entirely possible for him to be breaking the 1000 calorie per hour mark. That's all I'm saying.

 

[whooy89]

I got a call from Dr. Calloway offering me an AF spot! Yay!!

 

[mslall]

I just used three different online calorie calcululators and running at 6mph for 60 mins for my weight of 215 pounds were all over 1000 calories. And 10 minute miles is hardly breakneck pace. So I feel it is entirely possible for him to be breaking the 1000 calorie per hour mark. That's all I'm saying.

ok, i'll concede. I was going off of my weight (175). Fair enough. Regardless, it was too much for him; 6mph for 60 minutes x215ish lbs is a lot of impact on shins/knees/ankles.....